what gives it grace and what is essential, its moral values. good morning and welcome to "a.m. joy." today in paris, emanuel macron dl delivered an epic rebuke against the president of the united states. the war was followed by the rise of facism in europe. his comments came just weeks after donald trump called himself a nationalist. trump is among dozens of world leaders in paris. though, he was notably late to the main proceedings this morning. he did get a thumbs up from his favorite dictator and a friendly handshake from vladimir putin. that dinner came hours after trump canceled the visit to a cemetery for americans killed in the war. the white house citing rainy

weather. press secretary sara sanders said the rain grounded the presidential helicopter and that a motorcade would be logically impossible. the cancellation prompted a rash of criticism. the grandson of winston which you shall tweeted, they died with their face to the foe and that pathetic inadequate donald trump couldn't pay his respects to honor the fallen. as a pay of comparison, here is how justin trudeau handled the rain last year during the 75th anniversary of the raid in ottawa. >> as we sit here in the rain, thinking how uncomfortable we must be these minutes as our suits get wet and our hair gets wet and our shoes get wet, i think it's all the more fitting that we remember on that day the

rain wasn't rain. it was bullets. >> trump is scheduled to speak at american cemetery in a moment. you can see it there. we will continue to monitor it and keep you posted on what he said. >> joining me now, my panel. thank you all for being here this morning. i'm going to go to john first on this because i just want you to just explain for anyone, you know, in the audience who may not know, but i'm sure most people do, what it means to veterans for an american president to visit a cemetery like the one that donald trump did not attend because of the rain. what does that mean to american veterans? >> yes. it's not a political event. i mean, i think this was a moment for him to highlight what veteran's day was about, which is the end of world war i. most americans don't know veterans day was an evolution

out of world war i. just where i am here in florida last night at dinner asking people, do you know who tomorrow is and most americans don't know. i really think that every veteran fears being forgotten. this was a chance yesterday for the president to high like not only the sacrifice of american veterans but our role in the war itself, in world war i and our role as leaders in the world. he missed that opportunity that americans made to end the great war, which was ironically incredibly brutal in trenches with chemical weapons. millions and millions of people died, many of does. for him to duck out, i think because of his hair, is a real missed opportunity for him as the president and leader of the world to highlight a little bit of history that would have educated our country and the rest of our globe. >> right. you know, we can see the make good is happening right now. you can see that on the screen as john was talking that donald trump is at another cemetery.

he has an umbrella to cover his hair. he's doing that at this point right now. i want to go to you and get from you. there were other world leaders who visited a different cemetery. there were a lot of split screens i saw on social media showing other world leaders paying their respects to their country's war dead. this was something that was not just for the american president but really all western world leaders kind of coming together to commemorate this great and tragic war. >> look, joy, i think one of the -- this is a moment where you can kind of reflect, if you like, amid all the bluster and the political fire that we see day after day these days when you look back at the millions of people who died in world war i and the millions who died in world war ii, it helps to kind of ground you, i think, a little bit. joy, my great grandfather died

on the first naval -- royal navy ship in world war i. my grandfather died serving in the navy in world war ii. the generations before us have suffered in ways that we can only imagine. and i think there is an interesting point there, which is in a way we are all so privileged. we have the privilege of having these arguments and having these fierce debates of this polarization because right now we don't face the kinds of threats that they faced in the build-up to world war ii with the rise of fascism. and there is a lesson of the kind of politics we have to oppose. that kind of politics can't return. it is not just a question for the u.s. you see it in europe, particularly, for example, in eastern europe and the rise of the sort of celebration, if you like, of dictators and the

questions about democracy. a day like today is very useful, i think, for all of us to really think about, you know, where we are now and where we want to be. >> yeah. sara, the tragedy of world war i was indeed compounded by the subsequent rise of fascism, obviously, notably in germany. the initial alliance between the soviets and the united states that resulted in a cold war after world war ii. there is so much to the history of that first period that is significant. and the united states was so central to that narrative that these are the moments when the president renews the american story on the world stage. it is jarring to see that not only has donald trump in general not wanted to carry that american narrative forward but also this embrace of regimes. the thumbs up he got from vladimir putin and the bizarre

embrace that he cannot extricate himself from. even like the north korea dictator who has devastated that continent, separated families and presiding over gu logs. moments like this it seems more strange. >> yeah. it is strangely also predicta e predictable. i think we have two things going on. one is trump's fear of sacrifice. his lack of ability to understand sacrifice for a cause greater than yourself. he has contempt for veterans. this is something that is consistent. he was cruel to mccain, to war widows. he's put, you know, our troops out as perhaps. he has them stations in texas to put off an alleged horde of migrants coming toward tijuana. it makes no sense. then you have his consistent love of dictatorships, his

worship of raw power. that is something he understands. that is something he sought to emulate. you saw this especially with putin, but with kim jong-un and with anybody who is able to abuse power in an open and flagrant way with no regard for an actual representative body. that's an alarming thing because in this visit to france you see him once again moving away from a western democratic alliance and towards an access of autocrats. that is his goal and objective. i think you will see more of that today. >> he will be very excited about that meeting. the white house is doing this make good now. they're making sure they get those images out there that he is now doing this cemetery visit. but donald trump has not visited the troops, u.s. troops in the theaters where we are still at war. he did make a surprise visit to the korean demilitarized zone in 2017.

or he attempted to, but it was forced to turn around because of bad weather. how does the white house respond to this? donald trump tauts his support from the military and from veterans. in a lot of ways he does have it. but he hasn't even visited u.s. troops. >> right. this is something that they really cannot reconcile. this is something that many veterans are furious about, the fact he still has not gone over in nearly two years he's been in office to visit the veterans who support him in this country, many of them. and so i think that, you know, going back to what we're seeing in europe, i mean, the president just he does not see europe as important. i mean, he does not see -- he sees it as a foe. he called the european union a foe in the past. and the moderates that we see kind of ruling over europe right now stand in direct opposition to everything that the president stands for. when we see him going to france and kind of snubbing the ceremony that happened at the

world war i memorial, that, i think, is more of a snub of the people hosting it than it is necessarily a snub of the veterans. i think he was trying to make a point. of course we have seen in the past he gets in unnecessary fights with your fien leaders. as soon as he left the g7 he got in a fight with justin trudeau. so i think this is very much consistent, as sara said, withering we have seen from trump in the past. he did not reaffirm the united states commitment to the mutual defense clause of nato, article five. it is not something we should be surprised about, but it is something the white house will have to answer for in terms of this discrepancy between his own personal slights and his own desire to prove something to the world and also his neglect of the celebrations and the respect that he should be affording to the veterans. >> absolutely. just to make that point, he tweeted on saturday a picture of himself as we can show here of

himself and angela merkel with a single word unis, french for united. what do you think of the fact that trump hasn't vote e visite troops? >> he's out of touch with the military. he often talks about his time in military school. i think the important piece here, the afghanistan issue is a real one. he needs to go to afghanistan. mcmaster convinced him to put more troops here. we're seeing heightened violence where afghan soldiers are killing u.s. troops, wounded an american general a couple of weeks ago. he would see nato, french troops, american troops on the ground fighting together for a common goal. he fails to understand the sacrifice young men and women make in this country. he fails to understand out of

the history of world war i and world war ii that it is these economic coalitions that led to the eu. these things that led into nato that really kept us safe from russian aggression. there is u.s. troops right now in eastern europe and lit whuan similar to what we saw in the ukraine. he fails to understand the sacrifice at the tackty dal level and how the affects of our alliances kept these troops safe for a long time. that's a place where he failed as chief. until he gets out in the field, he's not going to understand it. >> it's gotten to be so toxic with our allies. even though they threw him a military parade. but that's fallen apart quickly. donald trump tweeted on friday very upset that president macron at france suggested europe might need to build its own military

to protect itself not just from china and russia but from united states. >> yeah. >> he said it was very insulting. the same thing where he thinks that a confidence game or something. they are supposed to pay up. this was an exchange on saturday in paris. take a listen. >> we're getting along from the standpoint of fairness and i want it to be fair. we want to help europe, but it has to be fair. right now the burden sharing has been largely on the united states as the president will say. >> i do believe that my proposals for europe in defense are consistent with that because it means more europe was in that nato, more capacity in order to take on part of the burden. >> the irony is that lots of american presidents, other american presidents have said that it would be helpful if europe shared more of the burden in terms of its own defense. that's not a new thing. but the idea that the president of france, our first ally, if

you want to talk about the war of independence is saying they might need to protect themselves from us, that is actually shocking. >> yeah. i mean, he was talking -- it's been clarified about cyber. and of course the truth about cyber is that all countries are spying on each other almost all the time. allies or foes. i think the interesting thing with the macron-trump relationship, that fight, is it is less of a boxing match. macron gains by having a battle with trump because trump is so unpopular in france. trump believes he gains with his base. underneath it all, how real is it? look, the idea of a european army is something that the french have been enthusiastic about for a long time. trust me, other countries in europe are not as evnthusiastic about that. but one of the questions looking

forward and it is poignant to talk about right now when we look back to previous wars is the relationship between america and europe has been absolutely vital for europe, particularly at very difficult times. there have been economic crisis, when there have been wars. for example, america came in and effect i havely rescued europe in the second world war. you have to ask yourself a question. if europe pafaced another crisi what role would washington play? those are the kind of things -- that's the kind of thing where the rhetoric suddenly gets very, very serious and that's why people are concerned with this seeming increasingly divide across the pond. >> what does the white house say about that because the idea that you would be having this fractured relationship with our traditional allies, you do have traditional republicans like

general mattis, are they ignoring the white house and pursuing a more traditional foreign policy, or has donald trump trumpfied the entire washington establishment? >> we have seen this kind of two-track policy, you know, establishment in the white house. i mean, you have the people that surround trump who are kind of ignoring everything he says, especially as it relates to russia. and then you have trump who seems to be just cat ering to hs base constantly. that being said, there are, you know, policy things that the white house is pursuing that are divorced from what we have seen in the past from past administrations. we didn't have an ambassador in the eu until 2018. the ambassador to germany that trump appointed has essentially threatened germany in the past and said he wants to empower and

embolden conservative politics. and trump has praised him for this. so i think that what we're seeing is, you know, we're seeing a collective shift on the europeans part away from the united states because they are concerned that the policies that trump wants to see enacted could actually completely threaten this transatlantic relationship. that's why this picture is so striking, because they realized they cannot rely on the white house for anything. >> that's not something that can be put back together with a new president even. these are, you know, really dire shifts in these relationships. thank you all for talking about it this morning. good to see you here in d.c. thank you very much as always. we'll see you back at 2:00 p.m. we'll all look forward to watching you then.

sara, stick around. we are monitoring donald trump's remarks in france and we will bring you any relevant developments, if they happen. next up, michelle obama talks about how donald trump put her family at risk. that's next.

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i want them to know that michelle and barack obama who have a phenomenal marriage, we work on our marriage and we get help with our marriage when we need it. >> her new book opens up for the first time about some of the most intimate details of her life, including struggles in her marriage, a miscarriage and difficulties getting pregnant. she also had some choice words for donald trump saying that the birther conspiracy rumors that trump spread about president obama were not only based on bigotry but also put her entire family's safety at risk. and for that, michelle obama states, quote, i would never forgive him. joining me now president of the bernard center for women. jennifer rubin of the washington post and sara kinzie. i'll start here at the stable, michelle. this is the first time we're hearing what must have been eight years of real fear.

the barricades that were set up, the number of threats that president obama and his family were facing, the attacks that michelle obama herself endured, she is now talking about it. >> i was in denver for the democratic convex in 2008. it was the same thing at the hotels, at the convention, everywhere you went. i'm so happy to hear her say this so the american public can understand how devastating it was to her family. now, i don't want to equate the two, but i think it is important to also remind the american public that hillary clinton did something very similar. in 2008 in june when it was long past the time where she could have been the democratic nominee, she did an interview with an editorial board and referenced bobby kennedy's assassination as the reason why she was staying in the race. at that time i was equally appalled because i felt like she, just like trump at that point in time, were giving license to crazies who hate

african-americans, particularly african-american men to go out and mow down the obama family. >> i would be interested to see if she paid for that, if that was one of the reasons people remember that kind of thing. i want to pay -- birtherism was the thing that made donald trump a national political figure. he had been trying to run for president since the 1980s. here is michelle obama talking about the birther conspiracy. i will read it. it was crazy and mean spirited. of course it is underlining bigotry hardly concealed. but it was also dangerous. she continues. what if someone with an unstable mind loaded a gun and went to washington? donald trump was putting my family's safety at risk. for this, i would never forgive him. we know there was someone that fired at the white house. there were people that drove

across the country looking to hunt the obamas. we now know from what we just saw that people get in their heads a conspiracy theory donald trump is pushing. they think they are his army fighting against people who have children locked in the basement of a pizza parlor that has no basement. this is dangerous. >> it is. i am glad she spoke out. donald trump lacks any spec, any little particle of empathy. he thinks it is all about him. he does not think about the consequences. he doesn't care about the consequences to the people he picks on, the people he ridicules, the people he incites. and he does it to this day. he hasn't stopped. he continues. it is what binds him to this base that is so angry and that is so fueled with contempt and resentment towards anyone that doesn't look like them. and i am very glad that she is speaking out. i think it's nice to see a first

lady who really connects with the american people. i don't have any bone to pick with melania, but she's a distant figure. you are kind of reminded whatever your politics of some really great first ladies that we've had. >> she's very jackie onassis. she's very accessible. >> i have to add. i do have a bone to pick with ma melania trump. i didn't before. but as time goes by and we don't see her saying anything against the policy of her was, i keep seeing her wearing that jacket that said, i don't really care or something of the sort. i think we've got a president and a first lady in the white house that do not care about anyone in this country other than themselves. >> let's never forget melania was also a birther. despite the fact, she is an immigrant, she has not spoken out for immigrants.

despite the fact her parents came through chain migration. people give her a pass and make her a victim. she is his wife. she is part of it. >> she chooses to remain his wife. that's a problem. >> let me get sara in. i don't play a lot of trump sound on the show. but i'm going to play this little bit because donald trump has really gone after michelle obama. she and omarosa for a while were untouchable. here he is talking about michelle obama and her discussions of birtherism in her book. >> michelle obama said that? i guess she wrote a book. she got paid a lot of money to write a book. they always insistcontroversy. i'll never forgive him for what he did to our united states military. >> that's ironic, considering this is a president that dodged

the draft. what do you make of it, sara? >> it is completely incon sere. he has no respect for the military. he treated veterans terribly. he uses them as perharopprops. i think birtherism for trump was never about where obama came from, but where he was allowed to go as a blackman in america in a position of power. that is what threatened trump. that is always what threatened trump through his entire life, through his persecution of the central park five, through the attacks on black female journalists over the last week. this is a very consistent thing and the same pattern that leads to him attacking michelle obama for being a black woman who is respected, a woman people actually look up to, which is i think a quality he lacks comparatively, and he's very

much aware of that. >> i recall lots of monkey images. >> and the big afro. >> he didn't need that. i want to quickly before we go, we have heard sara's thoughts on what's happening in europe right now. donald trump is doing his make good. he just finished speaking. i want to give both of your thoughts. >> i listened to the statements that macron has made and typically those statements would have been made by the president of the united states. we have always said we are the greatest nation on earth, and we were. and we will continue to be, but while this man is in office, we are the laughing stock of the world. every day he degrades our democracy. it is an international embarrassment. >> before we got on the air, i was talking to jennifer. it is amazing how people have come to sound exactly like conservatives used to sound when we talk about the uniqueness and the unique role of america in the world. i was saying to you, jennifer,

it didn't hit me what that role meant until donald trump broke it. >> and it is a moral role. that's the point that macron, to your point, made, that we are great because we are good because we lead with our values. two things struck me. first of all, how small, how petty, how isolated he is. and secondly that sight of macron and angela merkel together with such warmth, with such unity. that is an immense achievement from the international structure that donald trump wants to destroy. after two world wars, who would have believed that these countries are so warm in their embrace, so collaborative. that's the legacy of the 70 plus years now of an internags ntion world based on our values in terms of trade, military relations. he would shred that because he has not one inkling of the

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because you didn't win. your side didn't win, so you got to come here and you got to try to get people to go change their ballots. you can't do that! >> that's the law. that's the law. have you read the law? >> yeah. >> before i school you, have you read the law? wow. what you just heard from matt gates seen arguing with an african-american andrew gillum supporter yesterday outside the elections office reminiscent of ron desantis. they are happening for a reason. florida's hotly contested race

is for governor and u.s. senate as well as agricultural commissioner are headed for a recount. i'm going to start with the gentlemen on this. i normally would go ladies fist, b but i have to ask you. i'm not trying to make you my southern expert, but this monkey with the results, monkey with the race, it is just a thing now at least in florida. is that a thing that people say? >> it's not a thing. it always has been a thing and it always will be a thing when you refer to black people as monkeys or elude to it. this is not a dog whistle. this is a dog bark. this is ridiculous. in arizona where republicans want to have more votes counted, the population is something like 3.4% nonwhite. that's interesting. but in florida where they don't want the votes to be counted the

black and brown population is 42%. is that a coincidence to anybody? because it is not to me. math is math. when you find elected politicians who use terms like monkey or low down dog or lie iq and then they go into a state and say, hey, don't count those black and brown votes, that is not a coincidence, folks. that is pure tribalism politics and it is disgusting. >> as a former florida republican yourself, i wonder, do people extrapolate how do i then govern this state? florida is anbly diverse state. there are venezuelans, columbians, cuban americans. there are all kind of groups of people. there are purt toe r.

a lot depend on trying to attract more business. there were states with the confederate flag in their emblem that made it hard for them to attract new business. that's why nikki haley made the decision to take it down. i wonder if republicans think about that. how do i govern if i led with monkeys? how do i govern? >> you are exactly right, joy. they doubled down and hardened their position. to your point, it is five different states. if you look at the country as a whole, we all come from different communities. some communities of colors. others like me, i grew up in a community that was rural and very white. let's just be honest about it. at some point in life you realize you either need to try to understand the sensitivities of some of the vocabulary frankly right up front and why it matters to communities that you may not have grown up with and you either recognize that the greater calling or the

greater part of character is to actually understand those sensitivities and to address them through changes in our own behavior and your own understanding and your own empathy. instead, what we see among particularly today republican leaders is this doubling down and this defense of what has been a largely white cultural evolution for them. and in today's environment, frankly with voices of leadership coming out of this white house, it's becoming very dangerous because it empowers and gives permission for those who use those cultural moments to cause harm. >> even if you only care about business and the bottom line and making your state attractive both to tourists and attractive to business. >> yes. >> i just wonder if anyone ever thinks about the utility of using these kind of dog whistles. maybe you can suppress lots of votes to keep yourself in power. maybe you can incarcerate your way to keeping down

constituents. but at the end of the day, i wonder if the party thought about whether or not this makes sense, whether or not this could grow a state like florida long term. >> there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to show that the party itself or the individuals who are running as republicans in states like florida and in states like georgia have given any further thought to where they go. i will tell you there are stories about cities and towns that were so against desegregat allowed their states to die. you have to say to yourself do they think people who are nonwhite, for example, are going to send their kids to any colleges in the state of florida knowing that your child's life does not matter.

my children will never apply to a school in florida. are you going to continue to knock people off of the voter roles. eventually they have to understand they either move with the times or understand that the country is evolving and changing or they make an effort to say we are going to allow the economic growth of our state to die. that will be his legacy. if he actually wins, that will be his legacy. >> jimmy williams, you worked in politics. you have worked in politics. you have been a consultant. i guess that is the question. florida now is in the headlines for not being able to get elections right, right? the republicans now are saying the democrats are trying to suppress the vote. but florida has a history, per a ari berman, illegal purging 12,000 voters, shutting down registration drives, trying to cut down votes to the polls,d

disen franchising felons. but what people now think of in my former state, they think of massacres in orlando and parkland. actually the son of the woman just elected in georgia six was also killed in florida. they think of killings. this isn't good for the business of the state. >> well, i want to refer everyone back to 2013 when chief justice roberts wrote the 5-4 decision which struck down a part of the voting rights act. and in that decision he said that we're 40 years passed all the bad stuff. the racism basically doesn't exist in the southern states anymore. it's gone. if that were the case, i would like for you to say, go back and read your own opinion because i'm pretty sure after all the stuff you just reeled off, racism is not only alive and

well in the south -- and by the way, in lots of other parts of the country. don't think it's not. but it is thriving. it is thriving in a big, huge way because here is the deal. in charlottesville there were not good people on the other side of that. that's in virginia. how many years ago was a blackman dragged behind a pick-up truck. in texas not that long ago. the list is endless. chief justice roberts, none of this stuff would have happened with regard to polls closing, et cetera, had the court not struck down the voting rights act. >> can i just add? >> these things have consequences. >> i wish we had more time. we will have all three back to talk about this more. i wish we had more time. thank you all very much. really appreciate it. thank you. in our next hour, we will discuss how the white house press office is using info wars to lie to the american people. and your moment with maxine. ine.

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i'd like to ask the military aide to join us on stage. for the final time as president, i am pleased to award our nation's highest civilian honor. the presidential medal of freedom. [ applause ] >> i think by now it's abundantly clear that president obama and his successor have literally nothing in common. obama loved awarding the presidential medal of freedom, the highest civilian honor, and bestowed it upon some of the most well-known and beloved americans from every walk of civic life. in 2016 alone he gave the medal to michael jordan, to diana ross, and to robert deniro among more than a dozen others. and who could forget the president surprised his vice president and bestest pal, joe biden, with the other. donald trump announced his first recipients yesterday.

jimmy williams is back for me. i want to play one more sound bite of president obama before i get to donald trump's list. this was from his 2016 post-election award to ellen degeneres who, of course, really transformed the world in a lot of ways when she announced that she was, in fact, lgbt on national television, and michael jordan and other people. here's president obama. >> part of the reason that these events are so special to me is because everybody on this stage has touched me in a very powerful personal way, and what also makes them special is this is america and it's useful when you think about this incredible collection of people to realize that this is what makes us the greatest nation on earth. not because of our differences but because in our difference we

find something common to share and what a glorious thing that is. what a great gift that is to america. >> jimmy, that award was after the november election, after everybody knew the results of it and he gave that award. he said that each of the people on that stage has touched him in a very powerful, personal way. well, donald trump's selections you could say that in a sort of a way. here are his recipients. mir yal needle son, gop donor who with her husband sheldon adelson has donated more than $113 million to republican causes in the 2018 cycle making them the biggest individual donors to either party by tens of millions of dollars including 82 million to republicans. this is donald trump's biggest donor. orrin hatch has called trump one of the best presidents ever. alan page. we featured him on this show for his artifact from the jim crow area.

elvis presley, babe ruth, antonin scalia, roger staubach whampt do you make of this list, some of whom are still actually with us? >> well, i mean, look, let's be honest. when president kennedy established the presidential medal of freedom in 1963, i mean, it was sort of this neat thing that he did to basically hang out, if you will, with the movie stars and famous people and famous musicians and that's fine. i get it. every president since then has awarded this medal to famous people, some not so famous people, some hidden figures as we know, and in the end it's used as a political tool, if you will, to say thank you for your service to your country. now the question then is is this miriam adelson other than giving hundreds of millions of dollars and being a good emergency room doctor, i'm not sure what else she's done? but you know what, it's his

right just like it was barack obama's right to give it to billy jean king and others. are we at a point where we're crossing over into rewarding our financial donors strerss rewarding people from doing something that they're good at. >> it's also probably harder for donald trump to get really big celebrities to come to the white house. i think we've shown that. >> who, lee greenwood for god's sakes? let's be honest. he has to reach back into the depths of america and pull out someone like babe ruth. a brilliant, wonderful baseball player. elvis presley, a wonderful musician who i love elvis presley's music, but in the end i guess the question is is he doing this just to reward, you know, sports stars? here's my bigger problem with all of this stuff, which is take the washington times. i went back and did a little research. the washington times back in november of 2016 after the elections wrote an op ed or editorial criticizing barack obama.

this is what they said, obama awarded to entertainers that are out of place to recognize excellence, blah, blah, blah. well, okay, so if that's the case, right wing washington times, where the hell is your editorial about donald trump doing exactly the same thing? this is the hypocrisy idea spice. i don't give a damn who a president awards a presidential medal of freedom to. it has no bearing on my life. it has no bearing on 328 million americans' lives. are we going to sit around and use the nation's highest civilian award and reward political donors and not actually give it to people that should get it? i can think of a lot of people, living and dead, that haven't been awarded this. lots of journalists who by the way have been killed on the line of duty, things like that. >> right. >> that's the sort of thing i think it's worthy of. i'm not the president. >> you tell me if we can play going out the door the alan page sound bite. maybe when donald trump finds out what alan page said on our

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if i may -- >> mr. president, if i may ask one other question, are you -- >> that's enough. that's enough. >> i want to ask one -- >> that's enough. >> pardon me, ma'am. >> excuse me. that's enough. >> mr. president, i have another -- >> peat 49er, let's go. >> i may ask on the russia investigation. are you concerned that you may have -- >> i'm not concerned about anything. >> you may have indictments -- >> it's a hoax. that's enough. >> put down the mike. >> mr. president, are you worried about indictments coming down -- >> mr. president. >> cnn should be ashamed of themselves. you are a rude, terrible person. you shouldn't be working for n

cnn. >> this had the eyes of everyone on my flight from atlanta glued to the screen. acosta returned to the white house after that exchange only to be denied access and stripped of his press credentials. the white house put out a statement claiming that he put his hands on the young intern who jumped up to grab the mike. because the white house couldn't support that claim with any actual evidence, sarah huckabee tweeted out a gesture to make his hand movement look violent. when confronted about the doctored video donald trump not surprisingly did what he normally does, he lied and blamed the media. >> nobody manipulated it. give me a break. that's dishonest reporting. all that is is a closeup. >> joining me now, jennifer rubin of the washington post, daniel dale of the toronto star, gabe sherman of vanity fair and eric bullard of share blue media. couldn't think about a better panel to talk about this.

i was saying -- i will say to you on air what i said to you off air. i think you have represented the gold standard of the way to cover donald trump as a journalist. straight ahead, straightforward, not taking in the propaganda and repeating it so i want to congratulate you on that. i want you to give me what your reaction was to that same press conference. as i played it for the audience, just a little bit of video that struck me and my producers. this is donald trump, the pacing. this is during the acosta exchange. this is the view of trump. can we show that? this is what trump looked like during this exchange. he's pacing and huffing. i have never seen a president behave that way. have you? >> i have not and for trump, this is a show. you know, this seemed to be an orchestrated attempt to -- >> do you think he orchestrated it? >> i think he orchestrated it. i think he finds confrontations with cnn and the master manipulator trying to do that. in this case he was.

he didn't want us to be thinking about their mid term losses? he didn't want our eyes on matt whitaker. why it's so important and why we need to pay attention is because this is bigger than jim acosta. whatever you think of jim acosta, trump gave up the game the next day or the day after. he said acosta might not be the first. have to show respect so they moved quickly from this matter of jim acosta's supposed misconduct to the press being differential to him. >> that he really expected that the presidency comes with a certain kind of deference that we are not accustomed to in the united states or a democracy that he must be treated with deference or else. >> i think that's what we need to push back against. whenever my colleagues or whatever the public thinks of mr. acosta in particular, this is not a country in which reporters should be expected to show deference to the president. that's not our job. >> let's play a little bit of jim acosta's response on cnn to what happened. here it is. >> all i can say at that point

is i was trying to hang onto the microphone so i could continue to ask the president questions. obviously i didn't put my hands on her or touch her as they're alleging and it's just unfortunate that the white house is saying this. you know, we all try to be professionals over there. i think i handled myself professionally. >> jennifer, you wrote you think that jim acosta should sue donald trump. >> absolutely. >> you think americans should shun his press soekt. >> what he did is a violation of the first amendment. you do not throw reporters out based upon the content of their reporting. that is a classic case of content discrimination and a first amendment violation. there's an existing lawsuit brought by a group of writers not because they personally have experienced it but because of what he says, it acts as a chilling factor for them. it intimidates them. that is his game. this is unconstitutional. it's inappropriate. as far as sarah huckabee sanders

goes, what she did was reprehensib reprehensible. she defamed this journalist. she used clearly doctored material. she is putting out falsehoods. they should cease to show up at her briefings. you can cover the white house. she is not the news. the white house is the news. if president trump comes unfortunately or fortunately depending on your perspective they have to cover him but she has, i think, lost the respect, lost the deference that we owe to white house spokespeople. she does not enjoy the presumption of good faith and she has misused her position. she works for us, the taxpayers and she is abusing her position so why the press keeps going to these floor shows where there is not information dispensed, let's get away from that, it's lies, and they can still get the white house's comment on whatever story they're following. they can still get her to weigh in on background or not on background depending upon her preference but to give her that platform, to give her the presumption that what she is doing is legitimate and is

normal in the course of white house press secretaries i think is a mistake. >> eric, this sounds a lot like what you tweet a lot, that why are people still going. what's your take on whether journalists should be attending not so much the president's but sarah huckabee sanders? >> i suggested they should pull the plug at all of this. we are at a break the glass moment here and trump's kind of farrell activity after the mid terms. the pace of the danger he's posing to this country has accelerated dramatically, and so, you know, there's kind of this hammering i think among the press, what should we do? we don't really have options. kind of my snide suggestion is pretend trump is a democrat, right? pretend barack obama had called a reporter a jerk. pretend if hillary clinton was elected and she had waged war on the press and do what you would have done to him or her. this idea that there would have been these solemn debates about what can we do?

no, it would have been kady bar the door. it would have been all out war against the president. you can boycott, you cannot show up, you can sue. i saw a great suggestion on twitter, every agency should send a black woman. if they don't have a black reporter that's a woman, hire one and send her. this weekend it was cnn that was the target. cnn could basically not invite administration officials for a week or a month until behavior changes. sunday morning talk show invitations are not constitutionally protected. they're an honor and a privilege and this white house doesn't deserve it. >> to your point about sending all black women to the white house, here's a little mashup of how that might go. >> on the campaign trail you called yourself a nationalist. some people saw that as emboldenly white nationalist. >> i don't know -- since you're racist. >> do you expect matt whitaker

to be involved in the russia probe. >> that's up to him. >> do you want him to rein in robert mueller? >> what a stupid question that is. what a stupid question, but i watch you a lot. you ask a lot of stupid questions the same thing with april ryan. i watch her get up. i mean, you talk about somebody that's a loser. she doesn't know what the hell she's doing. >> that was michelle sendor of pbs. i think i said she was from politico and attacking april ryan who's from cnn. gabe sherman, these white house shows, they are not a show, they're a fox news show. they are actually produced by one bill schein who used to be a producer at fox news. he's been transmitted into the white house. in your view having studied this white house and that operation, is this orchestrated to hit the buttons and the sort of zones of the people who donald trump is -- believes that he is governing on behalf of?

>> well, the benefit that bill schein has is he doesn't need much orchestration because president trump embodies the angry white base that this white house governs almost exclusively for. we saw in those three exchanges there sort of outright racial animus that he expressed towards female reporters of color and so this is clearly whether by design or natural instinct, trump is playing to racial grievances and exacerbating divisions in this country stoking his own base in the process. and so, you know, this is clearly part of a larger pattern as i did report for vanity fair. bill schein was one of the advisors advocating for the president to make the closing argument of the mid terms this sort of hysteria about the caravan coming towards the southern border. >> what happened to that? where's the caravan? they haven't even mentioned it since the election day. this was a national emergency for which they were going to send 15,000 troops to the border. what happened? >> yeah, i mean, this is clearly

what happens when you start governing as a right wing media operation, that you stoke these story lines for political gain and then the minute they're no longer politically expedient, you flip the script and start the next segment. that is not -- that might be a cable tv programming strategy. that is not a governing strategy and that is why, again, i think as eric just mentioned, post mid terms we're entering i think a more dangerous period for this white house. >> yeah, absolutely. i want to come back to you, daniel. the other thing that struck me and my producers besides the pacing which makes me think it was more visceral than it was sort of strategic because he seemed like he was going to explode, but the other thing that i noted during that press conference was his treatment of the foreign press. let's take a look at that. >> but is the election of two muslim women, one of them is to the house which is making history, is this a -- >> i tonight understand what you're saying.

what? >> would you ask japan to -- >> i don't -- i really don't understand you. >> who said that? >> president erdogan. turkey. >> i know, i know. >> you're going to meet him soon. >> i just can't understand his -- >> i understood what all of them were saying. anyone who can hear can understand what they're saying, but donald trump seemed to be going out of his way to not be understanding anything they're saying. what did you make of that? >> i think he was, when he was in a bad mood he gets nastier in general. he gets especially nasty to people of color. you could perhaps excuse one of these, perhaps one of his comments to one black female reporter or perhaps very occasional moment where he claims to not understand someone, maybe he doesn't. >> right. >> but, you know, when he says that abby phillip asks stupid questions, that maxine waters is a low i.q. individual. that don lemon is the dumbest man on television. lebron james is dumber than don

lemon and i think he could understand them in at least two of those three cases. he's just trying to excite the racists in his base. i think that excuse -- that suggests that he doesn't feel it. >> when you're at these trump rallies, what is the visceral reaction? what is the gutteral reaction in the room, stadium, in the arena when he's saying those things particularly about people of color? >> i have to demeuer because i can't remember a particular moment being in room where he went after people of color. >> that's fair. >> it's a macho -- it's a man sound. it's almost like a wrestling crowd, an nfl crowd. you know, they are out for the thrill of him attacking people, whoever it is. >> gabe, is this -- again, you know, there's a lot of argument you can make about strategy whether this is him. i think this is very clear it's donald trump. doesn't take much orchestration. what does the white house behind the scenes think they're getting out of this?

they already have their third of the country locked down. what do they think they're gaining? >> clearly they thought this was really the hail mary plan to save the mid terms. the president told people on friday without this hard core racist anti-immigration push that republicans would have suffered worse losses. so, you know, this is sort of reinforcing trump's own belief that the style of wedge politics that he waged and now in this last cycle works for him. i think as lots of people have reported in the aftermath of last week, i think the mid terms results are kind of a mixed bag. i think democrats can point to certain areas to say that the trump message, especially in the midwest, isn't working, but florida and georgia and places where democrats thought to really change the whole dynamic fell short. so i think trump clearly is coming away from this feeling emboldened and i think obviously the biggest answer, the biggest question will be answered in the 2020 cycle. >> quickly, eric, what is the

media getting out of continuing to participate in this? >> access and ratings. mid term ratings were good. trump is good for business. let's not forget that. that is a part of this conversation, but the status quo is not working and i really think the responsibility is on the institution, the news organizations, not up to individual reporters to put their neck on the line. there has to be collective action. what's happening now is not working and it's going to get more dangerous. >> to your point, you made the point i was hoping to make towards the end it's hoping to put people's lives at danger. jennifer is going to join us on the show. daniel dale, thank you. gabriel sherman, thank you. enjoy your sunday. next up, your moment of maxine. n so many interesting details. ancestrydna was able to tell me where my father's family came from in colombia. they pinpointed the colombia and ecuador region and then there's a whole new andean region. that was incredibly exciting because i really didn't know that. it just brings it home how deep my roots are

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congresswoman maxine waters. i want to ask you, first of all, how your district is doing. whether or not any part of your district is at risk from these fires and how are folks doing there? >> thank you very much for your concern about california. obviously the president of the united states does not empathize or sympathize with what is going on in california based on some comments he has made, but my district is fine, but the fires are absolutely devastating. the fire has jumped the freeway and in addition to areas like ka kalabasas and malibu. thousands have been evacuated. we certainly hope the firemen can get it under control sometime soon. >> we know that 23 people so far have lost their lives. we feel -- send out incredible condolences to those folks. what do you make of the

president blaming california and the management of the forests in the fires. >> the president of the united states attempts to talk about things that he has no knowledge of. he doesn't even understand what goes into fighting a fire, and for him to come out talking about poor management is just another indication that the president is not willing to learn anything. he does not really care about others, and he's on the attack all of the time. if you listen to the president, he starts out attacking and so we wish he would keep his mouth shut. california does not need him to be talking about things that he does not know. we need him to bring people together, to be concerned about the safety of our families and so, again, it's just another trump who is again reaching in, talking about things that he doesn't understand, and we need him to just stay away from us. >> we assume he does understand his past financial dealings, and he attacks you a lot. one could surmise that that's

perhaps because he's afraid of you and the fact that you aren't afraid of him and the fact that you will now wield the gavel on the house financial services committee in all likelihood. you've talked about things like impeachment but you've also more recently talked about things like deutsch bank and looking into money laundering. that could get you very close to the donald trump finances. do you intend -- i've asked you this before, but what are your intentions as the chair woman of that committee regarding donald trump's finances and his tax returns? >> well, first of all -- so let me just say that it is a very important committee of the house of representatives where a lot of big issues. we're working on dodd-frank reform issues trying to make sure that we don't go into another recession. we lmts wealmost went into a den in 2008. first of all, we have to be concerned about the big financial institutions of america. we also have hud in that committee. i'm concerned about fair housing and ben carson who has no

experience or no background that's trying to undermine basically the most vulnerable people in our society. so i've got to deal with fair housing. we are about to, you know, reach the point in time where we need to just make sure that the flood control apparatus that we have, the national flood insurance legislation is reauthorized. so we've got to do that. i'm working on all of these issues. the deutsch bank is but one of them. we are not starting out with deutsch bank and trying to find out its relationship to the president and his family. i started working on deutsch bank some time ago when i understood that it is one of the biggest money laundering banks in the world and also that they're the only bank that will lend money to the president and his family. and so we sent letters to deutsch bank that have not been answered. we sent letters to the treasurer that have not been answers so it's just a continuation of the

work we were doing and trying to understand the relationship between the president and deutsche bank. it's one of the issues we will be working on. we're not simply focused on the president. a lot of people think i will have the opportunity to subpoena his tax returns. that comes out of ways and means. we are responsible for looking at sanctions, the treasurer and his responsibility and implementing those sanctions and also again looking at money laundering and we'll do some of that along with the other big issues that we're dealing with in the financial services committee. >> okay. so you're clarifying that it's ways and means that would be taking a lead on the tax returns. >> that's right. >> okay. let's talk about some of your colleagues' characterizations because it isn't just donald trump. this is jeff hensarling on cnbc talking about you.

>> there's a tale of two maxines, and you've kind of described both. on the one hand, she is capable of being a serious legislator but we also know that speaking of being a leader, she has led the charge for impeaching president trump. now she was the one who makes insend y air ri comments about harassing his staff in public places. the house financial services committee will continue to be a behive of activity or will it be basically turned into a spanish inquestio inquestions sigs or the starr chamber to harass and intimidate the administration. >> what do you make of those comments? >> i don't make anything. that's the opposition talking about what would happen if this strong, black woman maxine waters is the chair of the financial services committee. they've never seen anybody like me before.

there's never been a woman in the history of this country that's been the chairperson of the financial services committee, and certainly never a black woman. and so they send out these dog whistles to their constituents to get them fired up about the possibility of what maxine waters might do. i have been on that committee for quite some time. i worked on the conference committee that put together the reforms after the recession that we had. obviously i have the experience. i know what i'm doing. i've led my caucus on all financial services issues so i will continue to do my work in a very responsible way. >> all right. congresswoman maxine waters, always appreciate your willingness to come on the show. great to see you. thank you very much. please give our best to all the firefighters in your state that are doing such heroic work today. >> thank you so very much. i will do that. >> thank you very much. next up, the latest on one

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spouses disagree every day. i'm sure you appreciate -- >> you don't agree with your husband's argument? >> no, i don't. it's not relevant. the journalist asking the president of the united states the president referred to him as kellyanne's husband. he is referred to as kellyanne's husband far more often than he is by his first name. >> the president makes that mr. kellyanne conway. >> i'm sure the feminists are proud of me, george. i'm an independent thinker that has a strong position. i offer my advice and opinion to the president in private. i don't need to put on the op ed. >> okay. kellyanne conway gave herself an

endorsement days after her boss criticized her husband, george, his name is george, for penning an op ed slamming trump's appointment of matt whitaker. jennifer rubin is still with me. you're in the box. you're at a disadvantage, maria. george conway wrote this op ed in "the new york times." he wrote it with neil cataya of the obama administration. he says anything mr. whitaker tries to do is invalid. kellyanne conway says her husband's ability to disagree makes her a fabulous feminist. >> wow. i'm still trying to pick up the images of these two living together and the kinds of conversations they're having, mostly because -- well, because this is not just normal politics that we're talking about. i wish that we could just kind of be like, oh, you know, oh, opposites, isn't that sweet? what are their brunches like?

we're talking about the most important institutions of the united states of america, and so i happen to agree with george in the sense that we have a real problem here. i'm not sure how you can have someone running the justice department, even temporarily, who has not been vetted in any way, shape or form. this is just a very simple kind of basic issue for all-americans. it's pretty easy to understand. we have someone running the justice department who has not been vetted and who he himself has already opined. i'm just harkening back, i was taking notes and thinking back about cakavanaugh and the fact that he made his thoughts clear. it's clear he's an activist judge. we know what these people stand for. the president naming them to positions. i'm not going to guess that we know what that is about. >> not only that, he has issues with the former firm that he was on the executive board of that

is now being alleged of fraud including "the wall street journal." he's got other issues besides the fact that he's already on the record for donald trump's exoneration. that's probably why he was given the job. i'll refer both of you. is it legal to skip over the deputy attorney general and just appoint someone else in either of your view? >> i think george said it best. it's not. >> it's not legal. >> it is not legal. it's not constitutional. >> not constitutional. >> he was not -- he did not resign so we're going to talk about the vacancies act. if we were talking about the vacancies act, you go in the line of succession unless you've been approved for a position by the united states senate. he's none of these. there's no argument whatsoever. he essentially picked someone out of the crowd, his crowd, his political crowd. you, attorney general. you can't do that. if anyone could do that, why would you have a confirmation process for the united states senate? >> right. right. >> this was just lawlessness. i wish the question had been asked of her.

you think it's lawful, where's the legal opinion? what vetting? did you even discuss this? by the way, i find it interesting, it's funny to watch the two of them and watch him throw spit balls at her boss but it's a serious issue that this white house operates lawlessly. they don't consult with the ethics people. i can only imagine if he gave sodium pentothal to the ethics people and what they would say about the legality of putting him there. >> right. white house counsel? >> white house counsel is going to give them the answer that they want. that's what they should do. what is even to me more troublesome is that we live in a nation where we are supposed to have three co-equal branches of government. >> right. >> things will change in january, but before january what would it take for a republican to just even think about what will the history books say about me, for example? and say, we've got to do something. >> yeah. >> this is the country that is

supposed to be -- we believe in the rule of law. we believe in the united states constitution. >> yeah. >> not we believe in the rule of law unless it doesn't do well for our party. >> speaking of that, we're going to call our attorney. florida never ceases to provide entertainment, not entertainment that's fun, sometimes enterta entertainment that is frightening. rick scott who the only thing most people know about rick scott is medicare fraud. his company -- he says he knew nothing about it even though he was ceo. i didn't know about medicare fraud. he's been alleged to have maybe enriched himself being governor of florida. and here he is it on fox news, of course, earlier today saying that fraught is afoot. here it is. >> senator nelson is clearly trying to find -- to -- trying to commit fraud to win this election. that's all this is. >> i want to say, i want to pick

up on that. you're accusing bill nelson of trying to commit fraud? >> his lawyer said that a non-citizen should vote, that's one. number two, he's gone to trial and said that fraudulent ballots should be counted. ballots have already been thrown out because they were not done properly. he said those should be counted. >> you think that is the senator himself, he's committing fraud? >> well, it's his team. >> okay. maria, i'm going to you first. i wish the next question had been which ballots, do you have any proof of that? i didn't watch the whole thing. do they have any proof of that? what do you make of this current sitting governor accusing a sitting senator of committing voter fraud? >> i think of the fact that part of what the authoritarian tactics are in our country that we have to be aware of is a constant kind of accusing the other of what they have done

themselves and just a constant deflecting. it becomes a tactic that if it's done over and over again it appears as if you're going to become immune to it, but this is what it looks like. it is the constant deflecting, and we just have to put it into context that this has become a kind of political tactic that is used now consistently by the republicans. the question is what is the response that we as journalists are going to have or that democrats are going to have because this is something that they do. it is not new and, again, it is not a new political tactic, it is something that governments have used and studied. we're just seeing it every single day in the united states staring us in our faces but we're having a hard time naming exactly what it is. >> absolutely. you know, you even have the president of the united states claim that whenever you do recounts they never go republican's way. 2000 election bush vgore. he doesn't remember that. it's not that hard to remember.

>> and that he would do it, shameful that marco rubio should pile on who has apparently become, you know, the next cheerleader in the category of mike pence never does anything that he has any problems with. it is shameful. the national republican senate committee is also doing the same thing in arizona where it is clear that the democrat is pulling away. >> yes. >> they are still trying to defame the local official who's an ex-marine of some kind of nefarious activity. this is shameful. all this does is defeat the integrity -- damage the integrity of elections. this is what they used to call useful idiots in the soviet era. they are doing what mr. putin no longer has to try to do. he doesn't have to discredit our elections, our own republicans are doing it. >> the vote is sacrosanct. to watch this over and over i never, ever thought i would come

close to hearing about a hanging chad again. we're this close to doing it. if you can't win legally, then don't run. >> right. >> don't cheat. >> by the way, demonizing the african-american woman, brenda snipes, whatever you think of her conduct of election, which a lot of people in florida have questions about it, making her sound like a democratic operative, she was appointed by jeb bush. >> if there are problems with the electoral system, he was the governor for eight years. >> he's been there eight years. >> he has had eight years to fix the elections in florida if it isn't working. what is his responsibility for it? how much time do we have? i don't know if we have time to do this. less than a minute. the other thing i'll say is on the other side you have democrats who are going out of their way. you heard maxine waters in the last segment going out of their way to say that they're not going to be super active about trying to take down the president. the two parties are so different it's hard to believe they're in the same country. >> the democrats are going to do

their job and it would not be so scary to republicans if they had been doing their job all along. there is a reason why we have a house financial services committee, a government over sight committee. >> and intelligence committee which devin none nez has been using to protect donald trump. >> elija cummings said he was going to use it. >> yes. >> absolutely right. this is what we've been missing, which is an -- >> adults. >> -- active adults house of representative. >> we're keeping all these panelists because up next, you asked for it, twitter, you got it. who won the week is next!

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people turned out. we saw it, we witnessed it and i was like voters in general and then i was like more specifically latino and latina voters. yes on the turnout. more specifically young latino and latina voters. amazing but then you know what? the break i just said the other person, other people who won the week? women of color, journalists coming to the support for our colleagues, april, abby -- yamiche, of course, we love you. we the entire country has come to see them and now we're going do studying and realize they are part of the tradition that ida b. wells was part of our country. african-american strong, women, journalists. both of them won the week. >> i agree with that. let me go to the strong black woman on my panel. who won the week? >> i'm going to say not even won the week but won the last two

years, african-american women, period. gone are the days of the stereotype, the angry black woman, the mammy, the this, the idiot, the non-thinking woman. so i say for the 90% of the african-american women who voted for hillary clinton -- myself included -- and tried to save the nation from the mess that we are in now, to stacey abrams in georgia who is standing up for democracy, to the 17 african-american women judges elected in harris county in houston, to april ryan, abby phillip, yamiche alcindor, to all of the african-american women, to maxine waters who will become the next chairman of the house financial services committee, black women are the alpha and the omega. >> here we go. okay. top that jennifer rubin. >> that is hard. >> can i get a yay, two, for two that were named. i'm going to give it to nancy pelosi who was demonized by the republicans, who ungrateful democrats tried to kick out.

she raised more money than god. she told them to talk about health care and stick with that. that was the winning formula. she will be the first speaker to win twice, sam rayburn from the 1950s was the last one. >> who has an office building named after him. >> and maybe they can get around to renaming the office building for segregation. remember that one? so, listen, she has done a remarkable job and when you hear the committee people who will be now in charge of financial services, who will be in charge of intelligence, they say listen, we need a battle-tested general. we need this woman. and that's what is going to happen for the next few years. it will be a war. if nancy pelosi can do what she did under obama, which was keep strict discipline among her troops -- >> and that's what she does. >> she absolutely does. think about what she did in terms of pushing through okay, about getting enough votes to pass tarp which arguably saved our economy, she gets an i told

you so like nobody's business. >> and much as nobody told mitt romney to go wiand knit but the did tell hillary clinton to go and knit, the idea that nancy pelosi should not return to leadership, and no offense to chuck schumer, no one ever says that about the men. it's only the woman. and donald trumpings have his chief adversary be a woman, that's a good thing for the country. possibly because all three of my panelists are women and women get it done. you're all correct. normally everyone but me is wrong but this time who won the week? women. women won the week. more than 100 women have been elected to congress, the most ever and they are a diverse group of people. african-americans, lats in a, white, black, every color of the rainbow, native americans, ayanna pressley, first black woman elected to the house from massachusetts. lucy mcbath, a grieving mom who lost her son in a shooting in

florida is elected to newton leroy gingrich's seat. hasn't been held by democrats since 1979. rashi rashida tlaib and imran omar are the first women elected to congress from multiple scleroin. alexandria ocasio -cortez. chr kirsten sinema, stacey abrams that helped others win and charisse davids who is both native american and lgbt and an mma fighter so if anyone messes with her -- >> and shout out to abigail span burger, ex-cia agent and mikie

sherrill. >> and delorolores huerta who t about people power, she was talking about the farm workers, back in the '60s, the most invisible powerless group of people in the united states. they organized, they created a union and organized. all of the pim weople who turne out, i'm on the positive on this sunday saying this is where we're grateful living where democracy is still present. and i'm thankful to be here with you. >> special shoutout to millennials. i'll give y'all a shoutout because you increased your turnout from 17% to 31%.

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