he's not able to do that. >> he eventually got there. he did eventually say something nice about the firefighters, but his first instinct is always to go to something callus or threatening. >> he only does it when the staff correct him. >> wave got to go. my thanks to david jolly and mike barbical, well not really thank you, but you were here. that does it for this hour. i'm john heilemann in for nicole wallace who will be back tomorrow. mtp daily is going to start now. katie, i'm going to ask you the question i asked chuck on friday. which do you prefer? i think you're wrong in this instance, but it was a very

confident answer. >> midnight marauders was one of my jams when i was young. i liked a lot of those songs. i feel good i actually can answer that with some confidence and authority. i was nervous. >> >> q-tip was the kind of rapper you would have loved, just smart and awesome. >> and i've got to say you're such an accommodating host, so polite with your guests. wow. >> all right. peace out, sister. >> john, thanks so much. and it's monday. with great power comes great responsibility. good evening, in new york for chuck todd and welcome to mtp daily, and what looks like a

case study in how to undermine the integrity of an election. there is no evidence of voter fraud in florida, there's no investigation into possible fraud either. but the president is calling to shutdown the state's recounts and declare his side the victors. he says florida ballots have been forged and corrupted to such an extent that an honest vote count is no longer possible. so just make republican rick scott senator and ron desantis governor already. at least that's his argument. but to repeat what i said there is no evidence of voter fraud down in florida and there is no investigation into possible fraud either. both republicans have seen their small leads get smaller heading into the recount, which officially got under way yesterday. it is a razor thin 0.2% lead for rick scott in the senate contest. and a 0.4% lead for ron desantis in the governor's race. a swarm of lawyers from both

sides for descended on florida. and today he said democrats are trying to steal the election, and meanwhile scott who is the state's governor has hit the air waves accusing his opponents of conspiracy. >> senator nelson is clearly trying to commit fraud to win this election. bill nelson is clearly a sore loser. he can't stand the fact he's not going to be elected for what the first time in decades and he won't -- he's just here to steal this election. that's what he's done. >> to repeat, there is no evidence of voter fraud down in florida. there is no investigation into possible fraud either. the florida department of state, which is run by a scott appointee, said saturday that our staff has seen no evidence of criminal activity at this time. and they reiterated that finding yesterday. the florida department of law enforcement said on friday that we do not an active investigation and they reiterated that statement yesterday as well.

let's be fair here, though, the state's second biggest county broward, which is democratic strong hold, is a testament to electoral dysfunction. and on friday a judge found they violated transparency laws. scott filed a lawsuit attempting to have the state impound all of broward's voting machines, tallying devices and ballots, but a judge denied that request today saying i don't think i have any evidence to enter a mandatory injunction right now. let's go to msnbc chief legal correspondent and host of "the beat" ari melber, the broward county supervisor of elections office. and susan is a republican strategist and jonathan alter is a columnist with the daily beast. ari, the president is claiming fraud. rick scott says the democrats are trying to steal the election. jeb bush has gotten involved,

mar marco rubio is involved. and the president said this today. that large numbers of few ballots showed up out of nowhere and many ballots are missing or forged. an honest vote count is no longer possible. ballots possibly infected. must go with election night. pick this apart for us, ari, explain it. >> well, you laid it out well and our reporting on the ground is not indicating there's any kind of fraud. we're seeing the kind of recount process mandated by law. and as you note the authorities haven't found those kind of problems. i was just in the building behind me which is ground zero for this recount, and we saw 12 different voting machines processing the recount of this somewhat controversial ballot which of course has the senate race down in the bottom here. that could be a key issue if it is a tight margin. but the bottom line is they're doing the normal process and separating out the ballots so page one which has the key races

can be kouchbted. and if it's too close they go to the manual count. you can see behind me some of the folks that have gathered here, and i was able to interview them. and we saw democrats self-identify out here behind and in front of the headquarters. but this process looked on the inside it was going to play out in a way. >> ari, a lot of folks behind you are carrying signs saying shut it down, fraud. there is a question how the public reacts to this. the governor is saying the democrats are trying to steal the election. but with no evidence, does anybody care that governor scott even though he's saying they're trying to steal the election, that his lawyers haven't come up with any evidence, that nobody's come up with any evidence and that there's no investigation going on? this is not a straight democratic state. it's a mixed state with mixed officials, although at the top

there is a republican. there is no investigation. when you talk to people, do they care about that, are they willing to hear that, or are they just going with what the governor is tweeting or saying on fox? >> when i spoke to folks out here i interviewed several. as i mentioned they certainly heard what the president has said. some republicans i spoke to welcomed his involvement. as you said, though, it is not a red or blue issue to note this president has already weighed in and made baseless allegations in a way that totally violates precedent or what any other president has done. and on the facts legally or otherwise the president is incorrect to suggest that the tuesday night count is dispositive. the law has a time line because it takes time to figure out what the voters said. >> so, nick, why is the president saying there's fraud sph. >> for the obvious reason he

wants tawin the election and he wants these races to go his way. the law dictates how these things are counted and recounted and what standards are used. it's not up to the president and it's not up to the gufblnoverno florida. it's what to the law. i do think that incompetence can impress the vote as much as malice can. and it's astounding to me after all these years we still have all these issues -- >> there are issues, though -- there have been issues in broward county, issues in florida with counting votes. we all remember 2000. >> i covered it. i was there for weeks in tallahassee covering this. it is extraordinary they haven't straightened it out but what the governor and the president are doing now is the same as yelling fire in a crowded theater. >> in a crowded theater that has

been on fire before, so people might think oh, my god, it's on fire. >> people can be hurt and trampled on the way out. what's getting trampled now, our faith in dem rakocracy. this is very, very serious business because our whole system is based on faith in elections. when you start to mess with that and make these sorts of charges -- we expect the president to do this. rick scott should be ashamed of himself. before he was governor he settled the largest fraud case in the history of american medical claims related to his hospital. so he's never been an honest guy, never been a guy of great character, but he's really showing it right now because this is deeply irresponsible. >> what do folks do in order to correct the record, in order to balance things. if you you have the president claiming things without

evidence, and we know he was going to do that because he set it up in 2016, how should we all react to it? it is a fact check, fact check, fact check or how do you talk to somebody who refuses to believe the evidence in front of them or the lack of evidence in front of them? >> the only thing you can do is highlight the facts as nick said earlier, which is this is an issue of probably incompetence. there's been no investigation into this even though it's a republican governor. i agree with jonathan rick scott, he should be embarrassed of his behavior. he's about to most likely become a u.s. senator. he's going to take an oath to the constitution and he is right now undermining that very oath in supporting it. and that is really what's the most depressing. because if things worked out the way people think, he'll be able to keep his lead. but it's disgraceful what he's doing. and is it going to make people feel differently?

no, unfortunately. there will be those who think he won legitimately and those who say, yes, justice prevailed. >> is this 2020? >> it's a close election. if it's not a close election, it's very hard to do this, but imagine 2020, a close election, and you could have a situation where the president won't even leave the white house because -- >> chris kobach created this whole voter fraud commission. there's still no evidence of voter fraud but still thousands of trump supporters who say there is, despite the fact there has been no evidence. how do you convince somebody who refuses to believe facts? who refuses to believe evidence? >> the president doesn't -- >> i understand that, but it's not just like the president does it every day when we all know that at this point. that is an established fact, it's an accepted fact. the question is how do we work around it? >> it's a preview of 2020, it's

going to be an intense election with a lot of voter enthusiasm. we' the race is going to play out over states that aren't used to counting votes quickly, and it will be an important race in some of those states. it's going to get worse not better. >> and ari, let's bring you into the conversation. governor scott is trying to say senator nelson is trying to commit fraud in the election. he's claiming that nelson's lawyer said is a non-citizen should vote. he also said he's gone to trial and said that fraudulent ballots should be counted. what's scott talking about? >> well, i spoke actually to nelson's lawyer who is on site here. their response has been that the individual who discussed the idea of an a non-citizen voting isn't correct, wasn't authorized to speak for the campaign. that was a single incident. and more broadly they're really

outraged that scott in their view appears to be abusing his authority as governor, going beyond all possible doubt the normal fighting you have between candidates in a recount and doing things as you suggested there should be voter fraud or there should be a police investigation. i think you should -- you hear the chants behind me lock her up, not quite relevant to this particular race. but the larger question is how do the florida authorities handle this, and they have been doing a lot to try to rebut the political issues you and your panel were just talking about. there's multiple different authorities you saw presented in there, and they say in the secretary of state's office with the lack of voter fraud there isn't a need for that kind of investigation. so there are some guardrails there that are somewhat not partisan apart from what the candidates have been saying. >> and i'd like to answer your question in part. let's look at arizona, that's

actually going properly. there's still votes to be counted. mcsally, the republican who's now down -- >> she's refusing to get involved in the fraud parade. >> and she's handling herself way and she'll be rewarded for that hopefully down the line. >> that's positive looking forward. but you still see the folks -- obviously if you widen out and show ari's entire shot it might not be 300 people standing behind him or 3,000 but three dozen. but there are people holding trump signs and wearing trump shirts and claiming voter fraud even though there is no voter fraud and no evidence of voter fraud. >> in 2000 as i mentioned i was down in florida for a long time covering the recount, and they had what they had the brooks brother's riot, which were -- these were conservative republican operatives who went and they kind of pounded the

glass on the windows where people were counting votes, and they tried to use sort of political muscle to make it seem as if, you know, the public was demanding that george w. bush win the election. they stood outside al gore's house, the vice presidential mansion and said sore loserman, because the ticket was gore leiberman. and they treated to put any kind of street pressure on. this is the way it works in banana republics. we're not supposed to have street action affecting elections in our country. so we need to ignore those people. don't put them on television. they're not relevant to this process. >> okay, that's one way to do it i guess, but if you're doing a live shot down there, they're going to stand behind you -- >> it's not hard to understand what they're doing is not relevant to the counting of votes and it shouldn't be considered relevant. >> where we saying we're

likening those folks who would -- >> they have a right to say what they want. >> as far as we can tell procedures are being follow except in the case of the florida access laws. a judge has weighed in and said there's no fraud here. the republican secretary of state has said -- >> but the republican governor is claiming fraud -- >> and in georgia and georgia's even more interesting in some ways. it seems to be working there, too. kemp, even though until recently he had control of the secretary stay's office is not charging fraud right now. >> no, he's just calling abrams a disgrace to democracy. >> there's no winner, that's for sure. >> no race has been called in arizona, no race has been called

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passed since george w. bush gave that victory speech. since hanging chads and butterfly ballots have become a part of the american lexicon during that 2000 presidential recount. and as we said florida is no recounting all of the votes in last week's too close to call elections for senator and governor. and one of the lawyers who helped put george w. bush in the white house is trying to put one of this year's candidates in the governor's mansion. but this time around he is on the side of the democrat, andrew gillum. that lawyer is barry richard. he joins us now live from tallahassee. barry, thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> and what is in your opinion the key difference between 2018 and 2000? >> the key difference really is just in the statutes, that after 2000 the legislator overwhelmingly with bipartisan support made amendments to florida statutes to make it more efficient, and we are living with that now. and it is more efficient.

we're beginning to discover some problems with it where some of the efficiency has been at the expense of the ability to count every vote. but it's far less cumbersome than it was last time. >> i know you were considering a lawsuit. where does that stand, and what might you do next for the gillum campaign? >> well, mayor gillum is waiting until all of the evidence is in to decide whether or not he has a viable lawsuit and whether he feels that it makes sense, and we're keeping him apprised of the evidence as it comes in, and we're advising him of his rights and at some point he'll make a decision. >> and what would you be looking at? counties missing the deadline, ballots not counted? what is most concerning you right now? >> well, you just named two of them. well, you named the two. there are some counties indicating they may not meet the deadline.

that's an equal protection problem and it's a serious problem for the system. there are also instances in which ballots are not being counted for multiple reasons. some of them are kicked out by the machines because of undervotes, meaning that there were no votes in one of the races or overvotes where two votes were cast, and it's sometimes discovered that it was a machine fault. there are some instances where people just marked it wrong. they circled the little bubble instead of fill it in or they wrote the candidate's name in the write-in box but it was clear what the voter intended. there are other instances in which the envelope in which a mail-in ballot came in that had a signature on it that didn't appear to be consistent with the signature of the record. when i was 21 years old and i first voted, and my signature doesn't look anything like that today. these are not fraud problems. they're problems with the system, and they have to be corrected.

but in the meantime we have to ensure everybody's vote is counted. >> what do you think of the rhetoric that is coming out of florida? governor scott saying that bill nelson's trying to steal the election? the president saying there's fraud, that votes are appearing out of nowhere? yeb bush h jeb bush has tweeted about this. so has marco rubio. >> you know, in close elections of this time, this type of rhetoric in my experience is not unusual. i've represented republicans and democrats, winners and losers and unfortunately it's part of the program. but the reality is that every candidate in a close election turns to his lawyer and says do i have a chance at winning this in court. maybe there's somexes but i haven't seen them. and the other side is always saying he's trying to steal the election. but fortunately we have a very stable electoral system in this state and this country we can be proud of, and the way we resolve

these things is in the courtroom not in the streets. so this is normal democratic process that we're following. >> well, let's play a sound bite from the courtroom. here's the florida chief circuit judge jack tudor telling lawyers in the case, the gillum-desantis case to tamp down their rhetoric. >> i'm urging because of the hard public nature of this case to ramp down the rhetoric. everything they're saying out there in front of the elections office is being beamed all over the country. we need to be careful what we say. these words mean things these days. >> words do mean things -- and i should correct myself, it's the nelson-squa nelson-scott case not the gillum-desantis case. the judge concerned. but yousy this happens all the time. we didn't have a president

claiming fraud back in 2000 when he didn't think he'd win something. >> i didn't mean the suggest the lirs are like this all the time. i mean the candidates are frequently like this. for one thing i didn't see it first-hand. i can only tell you what my practice is, and my practice is that i talk about the law. i don't get involved in the political rhetoric. >> barry, do you think gillum has a chance? >> of course he's got a chance. the legislator made that judgment when they passed the statute that said that if you come within a half of a percent you have a chance. ifiocome within a quarter of a percent you have such a good chance that we're going to do a hand recount. so, yes, he has a chance. >> barry, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. and coming up, could the next mueller indictment be coming any minute now? he says the special counsel told

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welcome back. top democrats are making it clear to the trump administration, get ready for an onslaught of subpoenas come january. one senior democratic source told axios that the new majority is preparing, quote, a subpoena canon with potentially more than 85 targets. democrats want to investigate

pretty much everything republicans would not over the last two years. think president trump's family business dealings, tax returns, handling of the russia probe and so much more. the president is already labeling democrat's oversight plans as presidential harassment. claiming today it is causing the stock market big headaches. one of the key committees will be the house oversight committee. democrats on the committee have tried to push republicans to issue more than 60 subpoenas to the trump administration and were denied. but soon the democrats are going to be the ones in charge and they'll be able to issue their own. i'm joined now by jerry conally, a member of the house oversight committee. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. >> good to be with you, katie. >> so where do you want to start? what investigation will be first? >> democrats have never gone subpoena crazy when they're in

the majority. we have used the subpoena as a tool, as part of on investigatory tool and part of our hearing process. so the idea we're going to go subpoena crazy is just false. however, the subpoena is there to compel testimony when we believe somebody is not willing otherwise to cooperate. to answer your question, i think we starts personally with the census. it's timely. we don't have a lot of time left. we know we have conflicting testimony in which wilbur ross misled the congress secretary. on his answer to why did that question of citizenship get added to the census after 60 years of being absent, and he said the department of justice really pressed hill. we now know from e-mails that's not true. he was the one pressing this question. so i think we're going to have subpoena him to compel his testimony before congress and explain the contradiction in his explanations before other

committees of congress. but this is very consequential question because it's going to lead to high rates of noncompliance and possibly an inaccurate census. and so much flows from the census every ten years. >> are you talking about, i don't know, gerrymandering, redistricting? >> that's right. state's representation hinges on getting that number right. states could gain or lose seats through inaccurate information. federal dollars flow based on census track data. and so red and blue states have a stake in an accurate census, and this citizenship question is designed to, frankly, hurt compliance and scare many immigrant families who otherwise would be happy to comply with the census. >> well, i wonder how you're going to prioritize it after that. and i have to be honest with you when i asked you what you were going to start with, sense was not high on my list.

i was thinking something along the lines of the travel ban or the migrant family separations or donald trump's tax returns or the oversight into his business. after all, there's been so many questions as to whether his family has been pocketing money but being -- benefitting from the donald trump administration. look at the trump casino and hotel. if you're going to start with census, where do you go next, and who's the one that's going to lay out the plans, the road map for what the democrats want to do? >> and katie, i want to be clear i'm answering for myself. committee has not determined priority. you're absolutely right. we're going to have to whittle down that list of the 64 subpoena requests we have just on our committee. and we're not going to do all 64, and we're not going to treat all 64 as of the same order of importance. so ware going to have to look at impact and importance to the country and the elevation of the issue itself.

but also like census, how timely is it. i would advocate for that with my colleagues and move it up on the priority list. i think we're capable of coordinating with the other committees and undertake serious impactful investigations and use the subpoenas only when we have to as a tool of last result. >> so lawrence tribe has weighed in on the power of the subpoena, and he's not so confident that democrats are going to get as much information as they want out of this. he says hate to say it, but counting on a democratic house subpoenas to unlock all these secrets of the corrupt administration could prove naive. a trump judiciary expanded further with the senate's acquiescence might let the trumpsters -- what do you think of this? >> i think it should show the

base it's not the extraordinary tool trz. wh when the republicans were in the majority i think they did just that, and as a result they diluted the value of the subpoena, which when democrats came back in power we did not do. dan motheren issued a thousand subpoenas in the clinton administration. darrell icen issued somewhere between 100 and 200 unilateral subpoenas. we don't want to lep luicate that. we want to use the tool when we have to, but we want to make sure it's an extraordinary event when we do. >> so you're not going to follow the republican's precedent they created in 2015 to be able to allow committee chairman to unilaterally subpoena somebody without consulting the committee? >> no, i think -- i want unilateral chairman power to issue subpoenas. now that we're back in power and we're up against donald j. trump

and his corrupt administration, his pathological liar wrg we'yit to have this tool otoat our hano we can use when we have to, and we're never going to get republican compliance. in the two years the republicans have been in charge of congress during the trump administration, so we can't then somehow then yield power back to them having work sode hard to win the majority tuesday night. >> congressman jerry conley, thank you very much for joining us. and coming up breaking news out of the mueller investigation. one of roger stone's associates says he expects to be indicted at any moment. that's ahead. e indicted at any moment. that a'shead

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>> reporter: ojeda is a democratic and just lost his bid to represent west virginia and congress to republican carol miller. it was not close. you'd think that might give him pause, but, no, in a message posted on facebook live this morning he says it's time for new leadership. >> it's important that we start sending people to office that are going to abolish corruption. >> and another rust belt politician may be joining him in the 2020 sprint. ohio democratic senator brown is thinking about a run as well. he's hearing, quote, sort of a crescendo of interest in him running for president. brown won re-election to the senate on tuesday by 6 points. we've got more "mtp daily" right after this. e got more "mtp dailt after this

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we've got some breaking news on the russia investigation. one of our associates is telling nbc news that investigators that he will be indicted for perjury. ana is with the nbc news investigations unit. she joins the panel. this is your scoop. first off tell us what course he told you and what he says prosecutors are going to want to indict him for. >> i just got off the phone with him and he says he's expected to be indicted for perjury. and he says he was sort of frustrated and frightened over the course of 40 hours of what he calls interrogation, and he seemed to insiniate that he must have slipped up. he doesn't recall meeting julian assange or getting john podesta's e-mails prior to them dropping in october. however, we reported last month that mueller's team was going

for two months reviewing all of the e-mails and texts and communications and that those communications appear to show that he did have some advance knowledge of podesta's e-mails, that that was what was going to be coming. he told me he actually figured it out. he had watched the initial wikileaks dump, noticed there weren't very many e-mails from john podesta and was guessing that those would be the october surprise. >> so on the one hand he's saying he doesn't really remember, but on the other he's saying i guess it was john podesta because i didn't see many of his e-mails. anna, this is still -- of course he's not a central player in the campaign, and stone also was not an official party of the campaign. but it seems we are still getting into some periphery players. how does this potentially link back to the campaign, if it does? >> well, if roger stone got

information from corsey or any of the other associates pulled into this investigation and if stone in turn relayed that information to the trump campaign, that's really the key here. so it's still a mystery, and it remains to be seen if mueller can prove any collusion with wikileaks. >> it does remain to be seen. >> he's a conspiracy theorist. guttersni guttersnipe. he's printed a lot of things that aren't true. he peddled it wildly. widely and wildly including to donald trump who was an early believer in it before he went public. the problem that roger stone has and could be the next one indicted is even though he had

left trump's inner circle, which he had been in for a while, he continued to be in contact with donald trump throughout. i interviewed roger stone at the republican convention and i asked him, are you still touched directly with donald trump. he said yes. that's where it could be some fruitful areas of input. >> we should add that roger stone has been known to say things that aren't always true. folks in the trump administration or trump campaign will say roger stone had nothing to do with campaign and he was never around and nobody talked to him. we don't know. i wasn't on the phone watching donald trump phone. i wasn't wiretapping him as he might think the former president did without evidence. we don't know. i guess robert mueller and his team are trying to get to the bottom of that. we don't have an answer on this investigati investigation. the midterms are over.

>> correct. what's so ironic to hear is first jerome is a professional liar and he's no trouble for lying to law enforcement after a long career of making things up and putting them in books to make money. roger stone is a guy who likes to embellish and exaggerate his role in what's happening in politics and it looks like he might get hung up on his own embellish ms. >> roger stone started his own rumor about him getting indicted at any moment. what we know is that robert mueller is going to keep plowing away at his investigation. he has a lot of different things or options should someone try and hamper it, ie the president or if he gets fired. he has this well thought out and he will release things on his

timetable. >> the big picture on these guys, the reason i interviewed roger stone and alex jones at the convention is these things that were on the fringe of american political life. they have been around for ever. the trump campaign brought them into the center of our politics. that's why we couldn't ignore them anymore. >> they're not just wayward protesters finding a shot and standing behind them with a sign. they were brought into the mainstream. bring us back down to earth on the mueller investigation. we haven't heard anything from mueller's team in quite some time. >> that's true. we were looking to the midterm elections as kind of a goal

post. once we get beyond it we might be learning more. friday afternoon came and went and all was quiet. i connected with don junior's attorney today. he said all is quiet. it remains to be seen. mueller's investigators are looking at this fringe person. they spent two months pouring over his communication, fascinated by it and interviewing some of his associates not even connected to stone. >> we brought it back full circle from where we started talking about what do you do when you're trying to combat misinformation. we started with what's happening in florida and ended with this. again, it's the do you ignore them but how do you ignore them when they've been brought into the mainstream. >> and the consequences. >> and the consequences. always good to see you. turn your phone on vibrate next

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