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i write answers. i was asked a series of questions. i've answered them very easily. very easily nswered them very eay very easil . >> no, we don't that next week. they're all done. >> we haven't even talked about it. president trump revealing new details about the operation. does it suggest an end is near? i know who i'm going to ask about that. legal analyst katy fang, and nelson cunningham, former prosecutor. what do you think, katy?
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the president sea -- what do you think the odds are the legal team says green light, let's sit down. >> that's not going to happen. he said it was so easy, i answered all the questions. if it's so easy, why didn't he sit down and talk with the team. but you know that his legal team would say no way will they allow that. so somebody's going to happen once those answers are received, but in a typical litigation scenario, normally if you get evasive answers or incompletion answers, you can move to compel, go to court and say, judge, i need better answers. mueller will either try to take what he can good et from trump or say, look, i already have this information, i wanted to
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see if i could catch trump in a gotcha situation. we'll know what happens once he gets those answers. >> does this signal this is the final piece of the mueller probe. is this getting close to the end? >> clearly you want all the ducks in a row before you get the president's answers to questions. now, written questions as casey was saying, written questions are not the gold standard. when your kid comes home at midnight and parks the car in the yard, you don't leave a list of written answers. you want to look them in the eye and ask where they were before they came home. this has a bit of a feel of
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kabuki theater. i think mueller still has it in his head he would like to get donald trump before the grand jury and in fact there's some suggestion there might be some a secret sealed litigation. >> why would the president say that he wrote the answers himself? is there a reason for that? doesn't everybody assume that nothing will get in his hands without every single lawyer for trump eyeballing every dotted i and crossed t. >> it's alleges about him, isn't it? of course he's going to say he doesn't need lawyer, because he knows all this stuff and it's so easy for him. the ironic thing here is by saying, yeah, i answered all the questions myself, it makes it so much harder later on.
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do you think he said that because he's trying to imply i'm innocent, this is so easy and if that is the case, why did it take so long? >> if we're gunning towards an impeachment scenario, because i don't think mueller will say here's an indictment. it has to be political, so donald trump will say, hey, public, i answered the questions, i have nothing to hide. he's feeding his base, trying to tell his supporters and surgas, that here's the talking points for the sunday shows about the fact i've answered these questions and mueller is not satisfied because it's just a witch-hunt. >> you addressed this talk about
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that. you want there was some legal litigation. >> there is some sealed lit basic back to the corps. rudy giuliani said on august 15th we're almost done with our opposition to a subpoena motion. the very next day, this mystery litigation began. only one judge has recused himself from consideration, and that's the one judge that donald trump appointed to this court. you put the pieces together and it could well by the president litigating with robert mueller, a secret litigation, perhaps a subpoena that mueller has given
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to trump. it certainty would be a good way for him to use this of the before the mitt terms to make significant problem. >> katy, yeah? >> maybe. it would be interesting if it was, but i would be shocked that trump could keep his mouth shut. if he got a subpoena, i don't think he could keep his mouth shut. >> katy phang and nelson skunk ham, thank you so much. outrage over amazon. she's not alone, some surprising voices take her side, next. e sug voices take her side, next (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything,
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excitement and outrage after amazon announced it will split the new headquarters between queens and west virginia. a total of 5 billion in investments. and more than half a billion in virginia, so the question -- is it worst it? joining miss is di-- me is dyla beyers. welcome to you. i want to get to congresswoman alexandra ocassia-cortez, who
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was tweeting about it. how do you react to that? >> she has become the for a is for the concern that i think a lot of residents in queens do you have the concerns that she does. so you want to bring in 25,000 more people, and on top of that, you want to built a helipad so jeff bezos can land his helicopters. this happens at the time that the first snowstorm hits new york, so you have these images of people, you know, trapped in the port authority bus terminal highlighting just how much development new york city already needs to keep up with. so, look, my react to it is i
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think there is legitimate arguments. i'm from seattle. i've seen the good and the bad with amazon in your backyard. it also raises the homelessness problems along with the prices raised in housing? i think they'll try to clean up some of those negatives effects. about five more are created outside the tech industry. and, you know, any number of things. is it a matter of time before we can say whether or not this was a good deal after all? >> it is a matter of time. bezos and amazon are probably
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thinking if you think about this as an economist and think about the long term. amazon is ultimately a force for good. the problem is getting there there's a lot of damage along the way. i think the crisis for all of big tech that it disrupts the economy, where they set up shop, even increasingly on the west sigh of los angeles, those are where the nation's biggest homeless populations are. that's something they'll have to tackle. otherwise there will be a lot of scrutiny from lawmakers. >> quickly, how long until it's all in place? >> this will take at least a year. i think one of the requirement that they had for setting up shops was that they could be ready to move in quickly.
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faced with the choice again, i would probably move to australia. i think the republican party has become -- >> george conway there, the husband of kelly anne conway in a new interview for yahoo news skull duggery podcast. the president said this. >> you mean mr. kelly anne conway? he's just trying to get publicity for himself. >> joining me a team. rick tyler. big hello to the three of you.
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>> it's a personal consult. particularly the conservative end when you talk about judges and deregulations. trade policy, immigration, deficits as far as the eye can see. so, i want this all through the primaries. you couldn't identify it, you couldn't identify it today, and i would predict that because of that, the republican party has chose their road. they'll have to come out of that dead end when he passed the
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stage, they left -- and when benjamin netanyahu, the likud party will probably collapse, and when trump leaves, the republican party will probably collapse. the president has required in northern california, close to sacramento, it will be about 60 miles or so before he's able to get to the town of paradise, of course, where all the devastation has been happening over the last nine, ten days. not sure how he will be traveling, though, would be suggesting that perhaps he goes by chopper, about you what you can see there, look at that air quality. it's been somebody that's been remarkable.
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it is about the worst in the world in northern california. we're going to continue our conversation and keel a close eye on the president's plane, and of course if he takes to the podium, we will let you know, but meanwhile, natima, kelly anne conway is being asked about her husband. this happened last week. take a listen to this. >> when the president says, ask kelly anne. he's always worried about how it affects to me. i don't think it's nice, and i think people questioning publicly aspects of our marge and the rest of our life is very inappropriate, because i stay out of other people's lives. >> are you buying that answer from kelly anne? what do you think is fair game? >> i think it's fair game when certainly people will ask questions when your husband is
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saying things in direct conflict. it sounds like george conway doesn't consider himself a republican anymore, they may still agree on some things, but it won't by unusual to wonder how on earth are they getting along when she's working for a boss he very much is even forming organizations over to oppose. so i think it's a natural question. >> if both parties are going public, obviously kelly anne is paid to be in the public eye, by george doesn't have to. is it all fair game? >> i think you have to give george conway a lot of credit to come publicly about how he feels, and even though it's in direct opposition to what his wife does for a live every day. i know he probably has a good relationship with his wife, and
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that their marriage is what it is, but he feels so conflicted by what's happening that he feels a need to come out and say it. i just give him credit for having the guts to do that. of course, in i who comes out against the president will be fair game. they'll become part of the conversation and take their licks. >> do you think he's trying to get publicity? >> i don't think so. i think he feels compelled to speak out. and of course there's so much interest in what he has to say that obviously, you know, this has gone viral. he's not really thinking to get publicity for himself, i don't thi
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think. >> take a look at owner county, california, reagan country, from 2016 to 2018. 2 hughes changed from bothly red now to blue. is this the trump effect? is he responsible for this blue wave from the midterm election? >> i think there's no doubt he's largely responsible for it. in the senate, which he likes to crow about, the republicans drew a terrific map. if you look at new england today, senator susan collins is the last remaining republican in congress in all of the five new england states. if you just look at the results, the republicans lost over 300 state legislative seats. we all jumped on board, including myself, when obama over eight years lost 1,000 democratic seats. he's now lost a third of thousands in two years, and turning over seven governorships. when you have races so close in florida, which the democrats will not prevail and the race in
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georgia is now over, but those are now as does north carolina, as arizona is, that would need only one swing state. you win wisconsin and any combination of one more swing state, and the democrats win, or any combination of three swing states, and they win. the president is getting ready to disembark. and before that we sauce governor jerry brown and governor-elect gavin newsom, both democrats and both critical
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of the president, especially in light of his declaration of the california wildfires being this disastrous and devastating was because of the poor forest management. it's going to be a very interesting photo op that we see as these three men stand together. just your comment on that, what this looks like. >> i think it's gavin newsom, a very smart politically astute democrat who is a new generation of democrats taking over from jerry brown, and trump which i don't -- he's the complete polar opposite of both of them politically, let alone generationally. so i think that will be an interesting photo op, but i want to go back and agree with rick's comments on definitely where trump is after this election and the gop is in journal, to the
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point of the maps, they were designed very much for certainly not a lot of house pick .. here we are at flip, on maps where it was hard to pick up some of the seats we have, honestly because of the bleeding of the suburbs and among folks who are probably a lot like george conway. he's certainly had a lot of interviews here in orange county, from folks who have been devotedly voting for republicans for year. and they want enough is enough. it's a very wealthy tax cuts. my tax cuts aren't worth what's happening now until the trump administration. with all of my thanks to the three of you, i very much appreciate our discussion. we are now going to keep an eye
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on what's happening in california. this is northern california, the beale air force base. we're waibeling for the president to disembark, the president making his second trip to california since becoming president of the united states. he's meeting with those elected officials we have seen gathered there, that being governor jerry brown, who will be handing off to gavin newsom, both democrats. they'll take him about 60 miles away or so to paradise, california. 'we start the hour with breaking news, we have geoff bennett, as wet as nbc's scott cohn in chico, california, which is really ground zero of all the recoveries and rescue operations. geoff, let's talk about the president, what all this signals, as we see
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