of pow wer with the last-minute subpoenas for james comey and loretta lynch. the democrats are calling it a democratic stunt, and some republicans are saying this should have been done a long time ago. in florida, the president unfiltered and he is creating festivus for thanksgiving with airing the grievances on a phone call to the troops, and everything from saudi arabia and to the chief justices of the supreme court. and no word on what happened in the feats of strength. and a new look at kennedy'ss a -- assassination, and a vow to release more information. and we begin with the subpoenas for former director of the fbi james comey and former

obama aide lor rett -- loretta lynch. comey has been called to appear and lynch one day later. comey said that he will fight the subpoena citing this, i am happy to sit in the light and answer all questions, but i will resist a closed door thing, because i have seen enough of the selective leaking and distortion. let's have a hearing and invite everyone to see. this morning, new york congressman pete king talked about whether or not politics is at play here. >> this is something that should have been done a while ago, and it is to me, real questions of why the fbi director comey conducted himself and why he began this investigation in the first place and why in many cases he was telling us one thing behind the scenes and refusing to tell it publicly, and he told us all along that donald trump was not a subject

of the investigation, but he never said it publicly. >> i have a great panel for discuss i discussing this. we have leeann, and also paul butler and daily beast author jo jonathan alter and new york times justice reporter katy benner. and start with you, leigh, what did you see? >> not enough time for the republicans to get in the last term before the republicans take control and come january where the investigations into the obama justice department and the clinton e-mails are going to be li likely coming to the an end. the republicans won't have subpoena power anymore, and so they got this comey and the loretta lynch subpoena in before the deadline, but likely a fight

between ecomy and the house republicans, because the subpoenas are a result of comey not wanting to come behind closed doors. comey said in early october that he'd be happy to come to testify, but only in public, and that is what he said in the tweet again. the republicans this morning are saying that they are not giving into that, and they would like to talk to him in private. katy. >> and what is the concern by comey specifically when it comes to the what the republicans will do, and what is he looking back at? >> he is concerned, because it is closed door, he feels that the republicans can selectively leak information and that the republicans can use it to discredit him, and as we know jim comey and loretta lynch have information that is of great curiosity to robert mueller who is investigating the trump campaign and it would behov the republicans to do as much as they can to be witnesses that cannot be believed. >> and what about this? >> well, they are to be transparent and there is a presumption that the hearings can be open, but at the same time, it is congress' call, and

comey could cite the fifth amendment which he probably wouldn't do, and other than that, he does not have any grounds to refuse a subpoena. >> no, but i mean, i guess that the republicans' answer to that is that, hey, listen we are not going to be talk about the classified information, and you can talk more freely not in a open hearing. >> well, they want to do this before they turn into pumpkins, and paul goodlatte's power ends in a few week, and so i wish that he would not fight it, because it is going to set a precedent for next year, and people who are really do need to be subpoenaed and challenging it every step of the way. he should submit ono the subpoena, and go in and testify, and let the chips fall where they may and this is a guy whose

unp unprofessional behavior gave us donald trump in the first place in the fall of 2016 and this high profile fighting the subpoena really inhibits the democrats when they come in, and they are issuing their own subpoenas next year. >> and katy, jonathan has a point, and who are the democrats going to be calling first when they are the party in power? >> i mean, the democrats are going to be -- when they are the party in power, they want to know immediately what was going on at the justice department when jeff sessions was the attorney general and whether or not there are any credible reasons to believe that the white house has been interfering with the work of the justice department and a lot about the conversations occurring between the officials and the white house. one of the interesting things about this situation with jim comey is that it speaks to the president's larger belief that one of the reasons that he is being investigated at all is because of the deep anti-trust bias in the justice department in the election and he wants to get to the bottom of it, and

that is why he believes they did not investigate hillary clinton and him instead. as we oknow, the inspector general who is the watchdog found none of that to be true, hand in the are report, hundreds of pages long found no bias and no reason, and no reason why those justice department findings and investigations would be incorrect. he did say that jim comey behaved himself terribly and other than that he did not find the bias that the president claims to have existed. >> paul? >> and the justice office of inspector general did a 500-page report in june that answered all of the questions that the house republicans could possibly have, and as katy said, they indicated that comey violated the policies of the justice department when he had that press conference right before the election when he announced that he was are reopening the e-mail investigation, but they said that was not about politic, and the ironic thing, is that if it were for politic, who did it help? donald trump and not hillary clinton, because again, right before the election, he is

announcing that he is opening up a big investigation. >> listen, he liked comey when he was investigating clinton and he did not like comey when he announced that he did not recommend pressing the charges, but liked him again when he reopened the investigation, and very clear when he thinks that comey is doing a good job and not, and when he is doing a good job it benefits donald trump, i guess. >> but the thing is that this is all a much ado about nothing. so what we should be figuring out is what are the best angles for the democrats to pursue with the two weeks, starting two week weeks from now. they are sworn in on the first week of january and then we don't have to everer that name devin nunes again. and his power is going to go away entirely. and chairman bob goodlatte who is holding the hearings, his power evaporates and out of the whole thing of investigating the e-mails unless it is ivanka t m

trump's e-mail use, and out of the phase of the stories, and into a series of new chapters, and so this is like the last gasps of the old e republic-- rn tea party control of the house of representatives, and this is now part of american history. >> we will see. leeann caldwell, talking about moving forward and adam schiff wants to olook into the murder of jamal khashoggi, and what is he trying to do? >> sure, katy. you can add the murder of ka show ji into the long list of things that the democrats are going to be investigating next year. schiff told the washington post that he wants to look at what the intelligence community is saying at any given time about his murder, and he said that he would disseminate it to the colleagues and unclassified version as he could, and he wants to look into trump's finances and how they are entangled with saudi arabia and look into saudi arabia's handling of the war in yemen and

so this is a whole new topic that democrats have that they plan on investigating once they take power in january. >> league ann caldwell, and we appreciate it. and everybody else standby. and this morning, the investigations of the mueller investigation coming monday and coming with them, how former campaign chair paul manafort has been cooperating with robert mueller. and in addition, he wants george papadopoulos in jail monday and he saying, enough with the delay and get him sentenced, and the nbc news intelligence and reporter ken delainian, and also our panel who is still here. and first off, the paul manafort hearing monday, and what do we find out, and why is everybody looking to this with such interest? >> well, it is supposed to have happened a week ago and at that time, mueller's office filed for

the extension essentially and told the judge that they would be able to provide more details about manafort's cooperation if we all waited ten days, and that led a lot of people to believe that an indictment or some public action from mueller's office was coming to shed light on exactly what manafort has bp giving them, that did not happen, and now this hearing is to be going forward to monday and it could be routine and simply a status report in manafort's cooperation on the way to the sentencing, but manafort has slipped out of the news, but we should remember that he is in jail right now and has been since june, and his, the whole reason for being for him at this moment is to stay out of prison, and he is meeting regularly with mueller's people, and telling them apparently what he knows and fascinating to contemplating what he is telling them. >> and katy, i have asked it of a few reporters now, and not a completely clear answer with matt whitaker in charge of the doj and how do we hear about the potential developments of the

mueller investigation, taand th same as before where rod rosenstein would come out to announce the indictment or any change on that? >> well, i think that of course as you can imagine the justice department and the acting attorney general whitaker are saying that i would behave as they should and follow the rules, but the bigger question is what do we do and see if mr. whitaker does not come out to say this is what mueller has found in the report. at that point, you will see the flurry of subpoenas coming from the hill. you will see democrats demanding more answers, and you will be probably seeing the massive protests across the country. and so the justice department and hopefully acting attorney general whitaker are thinking about the consequences if anybody decides to keep the results of that report quiet. >> and so, looking at the manafort hearing monday, and from a legal standpoint, walk us through what we will see and what we can expect. >> so it could be very routine and say that they want to update

the judge on the status, and they could ask for for more time or they could say that we are ready to go to sentencing, and we have gotten all we need out of paul manafort, and the interesting thing is that his convictions are about his business dealings main the ukr e ukraine, and they have nothing to do with collusion or obstruction of justice, but now he has been working with mueller for weeks presumably on what, what the goal of the mueller investigation is with which is about collusion, and manafort was a campaign u chairman of the time that there are allegations that both collusion and obstruction are have occur and that the meeting with the russian lawyer, and the wikileaks stuff, and so he could be the most valuable witness in the mueller investigation. >> do you agree with that? >> yeah. we don't know a lot. obviously, mueller all along has known much more than the public, but there are 36 sealed indictments in washington. now, think about that. usually sealed, it is a t

terrorist case, a drug dealing case, or a corruption case. there are not a lot of rumors of big terrorism or drug dealing cases in washington right now, and so you have to believe if you are speculating on this which is all we can do right now is that there are some sealed indictments and nothing that matt whitaker can do about them or donald trump. >> we hope that is right, bun concern is that under the law, if whitaker were to fire mueller that has to be reported immediately. and if on the other hand, he limits the investigation, and so let's say that mueller says that i want to indict roger stone or i want to subpoena the pt residt of the united states, whitaker has the power the say no sh, yo can't do that, and we wouldn't know until the end of the investigation when a report is filed. >> but the reason that is not so likely, and i don't want to minimize the whitaker appointment, but he is on the defensive now, and so the first thing that is going to happen after the first of the year when

the new congress comes in is that whitaker is going to be subpoenaed and he is going to have to testify about why he should be acting attorney general at all since he is unconfirmed by the senate, and that case is going to be likely going up into the courts in a big way, and they could subpoena him all day long and so he could not go to his desk at the justice department and much less get anything done there. and so we need to be clear about how much power the democrats are going to have in january. >> and talking about the sealed indictments and they were mentioned a moment ago, but one that is 3,000 words which is big, and what are you hearing about that, and what do you think? >> well shgs, i am hearing thats perilous to speculate about the sealed indictments, because it is routines in every federal court title vii and as jonathan said, drug corruption or anything else going on in washington, d.c., and another h thing that is happen iing monda is that george papadopoulos is to report to jail for the 14-day

s sentence in his case, and his lawyers are asking that to be postponed, because of an unrelated challenge to robert mueller's authority, and robert mueller has asked the judge to ignore it. papadopoulos is a fascinating case, because in court, he apologized and expressed remorse, and the judge said that he took it into to account and shaved off time, but on twitter, he has been challenging the premise of the russian investigation, and engaging in bizarre allegations that he has been spied on by the russian and british governments. >> yes sh, he tweeted ohow he w wrongfully accused and how he should not be going to jail, and he is going to revoke the guilty plea, but them he deleted the tweets, and so it seems that a lawyer might have gotten into the ear and say, hey, you might not want to do this and you have a two-week sentence, and would you like to extend it, because that might be what happens. thank you all very much. you guys are stick around, john

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he likes to call it in sunny palm beach, florida, but the mind is on the the southern border. he wakes up early to tweet that he calls on kocongress to fund e border wall. he told congress that troops at the border will use lethal force against the migrants if they need to. >> they were starting fistfights all over the streets, and these are not like normal innocent people, and you talk to them and they start a fistfight. i don't want that in the country. if they have to they will be be using the lethal force. >> are they? >> well, i have giveren the okay, but i hope they don't have to. >> and he has threatened to close down the entire border. and joining us is kristen welker and julian ansley and paul butler and also clint watts, fo former fbi agent and national security analyst. and kristen, what is happening down there that the president is so focused on the border? >> well, katy, this is clearly

an issue is important to the president's base, and he is digging in on this as he is heading into the new year with the democrats having control of the house. and today, president trump is sort of digging in on the demand for border legislation, and take a look at a his tweet from earlier this morning ashs and the republicans and the democrats must come together finally with a major border security package to include the funding for the wall, and after 40 years of talk, it is finally time for action and fix the border for once and for all now. kay the ti, yesterday he threatened to shut down the government over it. and the president wants $5 billion in funding for the border wall. no indication that the democrats will give it to him, and what they want, they want the legislation to be protecting the special counsel robert mueller, and the question is, is there any real appetite to shutdown the government, and this is something that could happen in a few weeks. i spoke with the republican

congressmen peter king earlier today who indicated that he is not going to be getting behind that, katy, and not clear to have a broader appetite for that to happen, and here is another thing to know about that, and they did fund the government by 75%, and even if there is a government shutdown, it is only a partial government shutdown, and bottom line, katy, this is obviously one of the president's signature issue, and he has been digging in on it in the thanksgiving holiday. >> and julia, a reality check of what is happening on the border and you were just down there. >> i would love to, katy, because what we are talking about is the first wave of the migrant caravan coming up from tee wijuan tijuana, and that is a group of about 4,000 people. and any time you have a group of 4,000, some to cause problems. when they caused into mexico, some clashed with police but by and large, these are all people coming to peacefully claim asylum and turn themselves n and also based on internal documents that we have seen that the dhs

shares on the people in the caravan, and there is no indication that anybody is funded by terrorist group or is really coming in with some sort of plan to cause harm against the united states, and all of this is a plan right now that we are seeing the president set up that he is almost wanting to see some kind of unrest at the border, and he is putting pressure on the people by making them wait to the cross in. they are not putting more asylum offic officers at the border, but threatening to close down certain lanes to make it a more narrow bottleneck, and putting the pressure on them to cause that kind of outrage. >> it is almost like he wants to see a fight at the border. >> yes, a conflict to justify that he is doing something about it. if you are building it, and they will come, and this is the same theory here which is to create a border crisis, and then you have a border crisis which is used in other countries as well. and the problem is that you are take unprecedented steps that people are not sure by law or

adequate or even possible -- >> legal. >> and posse comit a atascomita using armed people at the border, and then using force against unarmed people, and can you imagine a military leader down there where you are not sure are where the orders are coming from. >> and paul, is it true that if they throw rocks, we can use the lethal force -- i won't ask you to get into his head, but legally, the problem? >> sometimes the americans go to to foreign countries and notice that there is not much difference between the military and the police. and in the united states, that is against our norms and the values, and this p posse comitatas says that the military is not to be involved in a civil state, because of different rules of engagement.

so our military can only use lethal force for the defense of themselves or others, and whereas the mail tear are warriors and that is what the president wants them at the border. so again, we have fine law enforcement at the border who are capable of this and we don't need the military. >> this is not a surprise to the anybody, because he has started the campaign with immigration and talking about immigration since 2015, because he believes it is something that works for him and if he is going to scare people, and gin up the anger from the base and this is going to force people to act, and if it does not, what he has is a fight that he feels that he can win politically speaking, and he has been talking about people streaming across the border using the images from other borders claiming they are our border in order to back himself up, and when he started running the immigration over the border was down, and illegal immigration was down and this caravan is something that happens every year and clearly something to be used for the

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we have a little bit of news just into the newsroom. this is coming from the washington post. it is talking about roger stone associate jerome kcorsi, and there have reported that he is in plea negotiations with the special counsel, according to the a source that spoke with him. corsi is a conservative writer and conspiracy theorist, and robert mueller's team has been looking into him to find out whether he was in touch with wuk ki leaks -- wikileaks about the hillary clinton e-mails or whether he passed that information on to roger stone or anybody in the trump campaign and if he was the back channel.

and according to the reporting, he has sat for 40 hours of interviews with the special counsel. joining us is a reporter from the washington post. and rosalyn, what do you know? >> our understanding is that the negotiations have been ongoing, and your viewers may remember that jerry corsi came out publicly at the beginning of last week saying that he expected the be indicted for lying to robert mueller's office and that he had been in negotiations and broken down, and he basically suggested that he was being unfairly targeted. he gave no indication that he plan planned to plead guilty, but the reporting is that about the middle of last week, the negotiations restarted. now it looks like he may in fact take a plea deal, and we don't know if things are for sure after they have broken down once, they haey could break dow

again, and this is a development in the special counsel's office if this is true. >> and what are they look ging ? >> they are looking if corsi received advanced knowledge about what wikileaks had planned. corsi said that he had somehow guessed in the beginning of august of 2016 that wikileaks might have john podesta's e-mail s and he told various people that including roger stone. and he insisted that he figured it out and looked at what wikileaks put out when they released the democratic party e-mails in july of that year, and he said to himself, where is john podesta's e-mails and decided that wikileaks had them, and apparently the special counsel office has been very skeptical of that contention, and pressing him to cough up an actual name of a person from whom he actually got that informati information. >> and he said that he made a

prediction, and it sounds a lot like what roger stone said about that tweet that he sent out right before august of 2015 when he said that it would soon be john podesta's time in the barrel, and few weeks later or a month or so later, we did start to see john poe ddesta's e-mail and is there talk that c oshorsd stone could have been in contact with each other about this very topic, and then it went potentially to the trump campaign? >> yes, that is right. you have a tweet that roger stone sent that struck people as a really strange and out of nowhere he is sending a tweet about it being podesta's time in the barrel, and few weeks later, wikileaks is starting to drop the e-mails and people said that roger stone must have known, and did he have advanced warning? he has insisted absolutely not. the reason that he said that why he sent that tweet, and said it under oath to congress is that dr. jerome corsi had been doing research on the podesta

brothers, john and his lobbyist brother tony, and giving roger stone that research. he sent the tweet, because he thought that the research would be made public, but it had nothing to do with wikileak, and if it turns out that in fact jerome k jerome corsi had advanced knowledge of wikileaks and he told roger stone, and that is the reason for the tweet, that would suggest that roger's stone to congress was not accurate, and he of course has denied that. >> and in talking to sources that i know who have been witnesses in that room with robert mueller's team, they have been looking for the potential back channel, and whether or not roger stone was the back channel between wikileaks and the trump campaign, and there are all of the questions about not only the tweet from roger stone p but the july 26th and 27th news conference where donald trump said seemingly out of nowhere,

russia, if you are listenings, i would like to see hillary clinton's e-mails and that caught people off guard and why would he say that, and was it a quip back to a reporter or made up out of thin air or because he had some information from wikileaks or from somebody who knew wikileaks or some information about hillary clinton's e-mails that soon might be out there that piqued a lot of interest. roger stone has not been interviewed by the special counsel, and that is correct, right? >> that is our understanding, yes. >> and interesting. and so roger stone not yet interviewed which means he could be a target. and rosalind, how confident are you that the plea deal will come together or far apart or big talk -- and don't want to name your source, but we often hear big talk from people involved in this? >> well, we are confident that

the negotiations are taking place, and you have that matching with the public information, and the interviews to nbc and others that he was gone and the negotiations are over, and he was going to be indicted and then all of the sudden, he canceled an interview and went silent, and he actually said that he was doing that because the lawyer had gotten a call from the special counsel's office, and so the natural conclusion of that is what we are reporting which is that they went back into talks. >> i will tell you that in talking to my sources, and the ones who have been up for potential deal s wis with the sl counsel's office, and those people have gone completely s h silent in hopes of getting a good deal, and so they don't want to a talk to reporters when there is something on the table and that could benefit them and put it in jeopardy. so i want to bring in paul butler on the legal side of this and when you read this, what do you think? >> well, i think that the context is interesting, because we have heard of the criminal

complaint about julian assange, and the 36 sealed indictments where mueller brings the cases, and with roger stone, always a question of what you said, what did he know and when did he know it? all of the interesting well timed leaks of the e-mails damaging to hillary clinton and including when the "access hollywood" tapes came out, and then two hours later, more damaging e-mails of hillary clinton and if roger stone was coordinating that with wikileaks and the trump campaign, that is collusion, and conspiracy to defraud the united states, and conspiracy to deobey the campaign financing laws, and it is collusion. what that means is that robert mue mueller and the investigation ain't going nowhere no time soon. >> paul butler, thank you for coming in, and rosalind, thank you for calling in, and nice job with the reporting. we appreciate you. >> thank you very much. >> and coming up, who interior

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claim claimed the lives of 87 people statewide. the butte county sheriff has confirmed 563 people are either unaccounted for or are missing in the camp fire. interior secretary ryan zinke talked to reporters about all of this in a conference call just the other day, and he was asked about the fires, and he blamed what he called radical environmentalists for them. quote, the radical environmental groups would rather burn down the entire forest than cut a single tree. his comments come when the government is going to be releasing a detail ed report on the cost of climate change in 90 minutes which is expected to fly in the face of many of the trump administration's policies. joining me is steve patterson in chico, california, and steve, the fire is not entirely contained yet, and they are looking for a lot of people. do they expect to find potentially more bodies in that n the remains of the fire? >> yeah, that is the expectation, katy. they have much more t o go to

sift through the ruins of the city that was completely destroyed. the rain though it is a welcomed sight. there are drawbacks to it, and part of it is with the search effort and i will get to that in a second, but as you mentioned the fire is not completely out, but mostly out. and 95% containment since the rain is falling around and the first marketable rain that we have seen in the last few months and the first time to the walk outside of your house because of the rain and not feel like you are smoking an entire pack of cigarettes. the air quality has improved and the containment numbers have shot up. and it is really has been pushing back the front of the fire, and the firefighters are hoping to get a knockout blow possibly this weekend for the first time where no homes are threatened by the fire. all of this is great news from the rain, but the bad news is as you mentioned the search efforts continue in the ruins of paradise. this is is only going to complicate the search. this is an entire city covered basically with ash. when the rain fall, it turns to

muck, and makes it a lot harder and not to mention that you are dealing with human remains in some cases that are so badly burned that they are part of the landscape. and the fire crews will have a hard time dealing with that, but again, the rain is a welcomed site talking about the actual firefight, and the numbers realle quick have actually increased. the number of missing and unaccounted for is 605, and we have teen -- have seen the number fluctuate back and forth and heartbreaking for the family members. >> give us an update on that lovely lady that you talked to a few days about the young lady looking for her mother? have you found her? >> this is what we have had from jim rainy, a digital writer, who spoke to her a couple of days after i spoke with her, she is still looking ashs wnd ve not checked back with her, but the last we checked in, she was still looking for her mother, and she had four family members

who had gone missing. they found three immediately. her mother was the last one, as you recall, and the last time we checked in with her, that is still an ongoing search. unfortunately that is the situation for so many people as you are about to say, so many, many people who are still continuing the look,e ing thing >> and give us the update, please, because a lot of folks were interested in her search. steve patterson, great work up there, and thank you for staying up there. we appreciate it. >> thank you. and joining me is michael mann, penn state university professor of atmospheric science and author of "mad house." and when we talked about the climate change in general, and i want to focus in more on the fires and ryan zinke is blaming the radical environmentalists for what is going noncalifornia and what is he talking about? >> thank you for having me back, katy, and it is unfortunate that this sort of the distraction and

the effort to, you know, basically distract the public from the real factor of these fires. ignition can be caused by many things, and the specifics is of what caused the initial fire is not always that relevant, because the issue with the wildfires that have seen is the remarkable rate at which they have spread and the intensity and the extent that characterizes these fires. no question at all, that we would not see the rapidly spreading wildfires in the absence of the huge amount of fuel that is around to the sustain the fire s s in the forf dry material, and the result of unprecedented heat and drought in california. and so, this effort to blame individuals or to blame forest managers or the state of california is really an effort to divert the attention from the

real problem here which is the impact that climate change is having on this unprecedented deadly fires. >> and what is the goal here to divert? >> well, we have an administration here, and a president who continues to deny the reality of climate change, and just the other day, he claimed that cold weather on the east coast invalidates 200 years of physics and chemistry that tells us about the human-caused climate change, and this administration has done everything to dismantle all of the environment al protections that were put in place of the previous administration, and obama administration and past republican and democratic administration administrations, and they don't want the public or the media to focus on the damage they are doing for the environment through the dismantling of the environmental protections ash and that and thatly with be looking for anywhere else to cast blame, and that is what we are seeing. >> and zinke also talked about comparing the california wildfires to finland and germany and the black forest, and we

don't need to get into how they are different climates, and that is pretty obvious to anybody who understands anything about this earth and climates, and et cete cetera. >> indeed. >> but i want to focus in on something that is breaking in about an hour, the u.s. government and there is going to be a congressionally mandated climate change report, and that is is going to be flying in the face of many of the trump age agency's policies and the rhetoric on climate change, and reuters has an excerpt from it, and we will read it to you. it is going to say that it is extremely likely that human influence is the dominant cause of the observed warming since the 20th century and no convincing alternative explanation. what this administration has done and what has been the modus operandi for a few decades has been to confuse the public and claim that the science is not agreed upon, and this started with exxon, right?

>> well, absolutely. in fa in fact, they tried to bury this report by having it come out on a black friday on a holiday weekend and did everything they could to bury the report, and there was fear that they would try to block the report from coming out, but in fact, it is congressionally mandated that it has to come out, and they tried to bury it over the holiday weekend, and the report lays out in stark terms what we know. and generally, there are not real surprises in the reports, because they are based on the published literature, and those who are following the publiced literature know what the report is going to have in it, and what is it going to say, and what it says is that there is in fact no question that the world scientists have reached a strong consensus about the reality and the threat of the human-caused climate change. there is a political debate about the solutions, but no longer a good faith debate to be had about the problem and the fact that we are seeing the

damaging impacts, and we talk about how much we can warm the planet, and still keep within the range of safety to prevent dangerous climate change. if you lying island nations, miami beach, you are dealing with dangerous climate change already. and it's simply a matter of how bad are we willing to let it get? >> the world is getting smaller, not actually smaller but the areas to inhab it as humans are smaller and smaller. i would suggest anybody interested in this read "the new yorker" article along the lines of the world is shrinking and talks about exxon and how they sought to muddy the waters. >> right. >> with the science to claim that the science was not agreed upon. much in the same way big tobacco did trying to convince the public that cigarettes weren't all that bad for you. michael, i'm laughing because it's absurd. thank you so much for coming back. we appreciate it. >> thank you, katy.

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thursday marked the 55th anniversary of the assassination of president john f. kennedy. shortly after 12:00 p.m., 1963, shots were fired at the car he

was traveling in. and those images are seared into american's history. nbc's peter alexander has more on kennedy and his legacy. >> reporter: it was a sunny fall day in dallas. adoring crowds eagerly welcoming the young president and first lady hoping to catch a glimpse of camelot. that sense of hope in the air shattered in an instant. >> it appears as though something happened in the group. >> here's a flash from the associated press. date line dallas, two priests with president kennedy say he is dead of bullet wounds. >> it's like the film broke in the lives. broke from one era of glamour and excitement and hope. the future looked very bright and then it was over in a flash. >> reporter: more than half a century later the poignant images endure as clear as yesterday. a president laid to rest but the mystery surrounding his death just beginning. over the decades, multiple federal investigations pegged lee harvey oswald and the lone

assassin. >> he's been shot. he's been shot. >> reporter: his own murder days after being arrested, only fueling more conspiracy theories. among them, that oswald actually worked for the cia. the soviet union or even that the mafia had the president murdered. today, more than 60% of americans believe there's more to the story. >> i think that we will never be able to put a period at the end of the sentence lee harvey oswald acted alone and have everybody agree with that. >> reporter: late last year, president trump ordered the full release of thousands of secret government files related to the assassination. tweeting at the time, i am doing this for reasons of full disclosure, transparency and in order to put any and all conspiracy theories the rest. but while some were released, many orders partially redacted from the cia and fbi. in april, the president officially giving agencies until october 2021 to review the

files. citing identifiable national security, law enforcement and foreign affairs concerns. >> this is a huge disappointment and a total mess. i mean, you can't imagine a more disorderly release of these documents about a turning point in american history. >> reporter: even as many viewed that day as the end of camelot, today a family of political tradition continues. jfk's daughter caroline was ambassador to japan under president obama. former massachusetts senator ted kennedy's son ted kennedy jr. now a state senator in connecticut. bobdy conditiondy's grandson joe kennedy iii a massachusetts congressman and jfk's name sake, grandson jack, a yale grad who didn't rule out following in his grandfather's footsteps. >> the favorite speech is explaining to america why we should go to the moon. >> we choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy. but because they are hard.

>> and in that speech he said in that great challenges are great opportunities. and so, i think that's really important thing to remember today when we can rise to the occasion if we choose good leadership. >> reporter: 55 years after one of america's darkest days, jfk's legacy still burns bright. >> peter alexander reporting. now let's go to nbc presidential historian michael beschloss. i'm always so struck of the last footage of president kennedy saying we choose to go to the moon and do the other things not because they're easy but because they're hard. in this day and age it seems like we are programmed to choose the easy route. i want to get a computer or a -- via -- what are they called? alexa in the home because i don't want to turn on the radio or the lights myself. we are moving in a direction where the easy way out is the

way we often choose. >> yeah. that was one of the ways that john kennedy's assassination probably changed history and maybe something else, katy. look at it this way. 55 years ago yesterday history went on a very different trajectory. there had been ten presidents since john kennedy. johnson all the way through donald trump and all or most of them would not be president and living in a different country. >> i was looking for the term disembodied voice. michael, what's going on with the documents? why is there such a fight? >> a lot of these things the cia and other intelligence agencies don't want to disclose sources or methods and what everyone would love to see is a document that says to all americans this is exactly why john kennedy was assassinated. this is the way it happened. unfortunately, that is never going to happen. we will until the end of time

i'm afraid be arguing over what the reason was behind the event that happened 55 years ago yesterday. >> we are running out of time but you watched a long sweep of history. will we ever see a president who focuses on hope the way that kennedy did? and opportunity going forward. >> i think we will because that goes so through american history. george washington, abraham lincoln, franklin roosevelt, ronald reagan. that is so much in our dna. it's not too present nowadays but stay tuned. i think we'll see it and probably soon. >> michael, thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks. happy thanksgiving. >> you too, my friend. >> thank you. >> that's it for me for this hour. i'll be back at 2:00 p.m. so you're not rid of me. aly velshi, are you back at 3:00? >> at 3:00. >> this is fun. >> it is kind of fun. it is weird. a minute of the day and look forward to it. >> did you eat my pumpkin pie down stairs? >> i'm