we will until the end of time i'm afraid be arguing over what the reason was behind the event that happened 55 years ago yesterday. >> we are running out of time but you watched a long sweep of history. will we ever see a president who focuses on hope the way that kennedy did? and opportunity going forward. >> i think we will because that goes so through american history. george washington, abraham lincoln, franklin roosevelt, ronald reagan. that is so much in our dna. it's not too present nowadays but stay tuned. i think we'll see it and probably soon. >> michael, thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks. happy thanksgiving. >> you too, my friend. >> thank you. >> that's it for me for this hour. i'll be back at 2:00 p.m. so you're not rid of me. aly velshi, are you back at 3:00? >> at 3:00. >> this is fun. >> it is kind of fun. it is weird. a minute of the day and look forward to it. >> did you eat my pumpkin pie down stairs? >> i'm discombobulated. i did stephanie's show this

morning. >> you were bent over the pecan pie and no to the pumpkin i made with my hands. >> i haven't gotten there yet. the day's young. >> there's none left. >> yikes. >> getting it while the getting's hot. >> save it for me. hi, everybody. happy black friday. we have breaking news on the russia investigation. nbc news confirmed that a former associate of both president trump and gop operative roger stone is working on a deal with special counsel bob mueller's legal team. i want to discuss who jo roam corsi is and fits into the investigation of the wikileaks and the 2016 election. nbc news investigative reporter anna schecter is on the phone with me. first tell me what you've learned. >> corsi told me that he is in pre-negotiations with the special counsel and first reported by "the washington

post" and i have been in close touch with him in the last few weeks and told me ten days ago he feels he would be indicted for perjury. they caught him in some kind of a lie or a mistake as he put it as they were going through all of his communications. now, they found him by going through stone's communications. so that's the key. did it give stone investigation that was in turn passed on to the trump campaign that might have been in collusion with russian operatives of the the e-mail? >> talk about jerome corsi. it is not a tame that everybody's familiar with. most people know roger stone on the screen right now because he was on tv an awful lot. he was a real front facing guy for donald trump. and he's thought to have been some sort of a conduit of donald trump and wikileaks. where does corsi fit into this thing? and just for the audience's

purposes, remind us who jerome corsi is. >> that's right. dr. corsi is author of the birther movement. the erroneous claim that braara obama was not born in the united states and spread like wildfire and picked up by donald trump and trump used it to propagate this erroneous claim. and so, there's a connection, a direct line between corsi and trump and they have even associated with each other. they were friendly. they both loved this eventually conspiracy theory and this is one of many that corsi wrote an entire book about it and one of many books that takes what he calls an alternative theory and it's often with erroneous information. >> yeah. i have a picture of him on the screen with that book. so i guess the question is, when

a guy like robert mueller and his investigation being as thorough as it is starts to reach out into this world of conspiracy theorists and folk who is are outside the mainstream, how do they evaluate what the truth is? are they looking for specific information about whether corsi or roger stone knew that wikileaks had these e-mails? >> mueller's team has such a tough mandate because they're interviewing a host of characters who are actually unreliable and who are known to have propagated lies and jerome corsi is one of those characters. so there are credibility issues but what they're looking at specifically is a line to wikileaks. did -- was there a back channel to wikileaks? did they get advanced information about it? and transfer it to key players on the trump campaign.

in an effort to use that information and there are statutes in the law that could be used to go after people like corsi it could be that. it could also be he said he never had any association with "x." he told me he doesn't remember ever had any connection with asua assange. why did he say that? could he have had communication with somebody on assange's team? my understand is he was doing work on podesta and the clinton foundation. that is what he was looking at. he was providing opposition research giving it to stone at stone's request. >> very interesting development. anna, thanks very much. i'll talk to you more about this as you get more information through the course of the day. our investigative reporter. okay. talk about president trump's unrelented drum beat on immigration. more tweets against the

judiciary today, the late nest a week long fit he's had after a federal judge blocked the proclamation tweeting the highly trained security professionals cannot do their job on the border because of the judicial activism and interference by the 9th circuit and tweeted republicans and democrats come together finally with a major border security package which will include funding for the wall. the tweets come a day after turning a routine thanksgiving phone call to the troops into basically a festivus-like airing of grievances. somehow, this even became somehow of a threat of a government shutdown if the funding that the president has repeatedly asked for for the border wall doesn't get provided. >> reporter: that's right, ali. the president took several questions and one of them addressed the issue of a deadline that's coming up in december on government funding and would the president somehow

connect his desire for border wall with that deadline. and he was very open for the possibility of that and talked about the border wall. the difficulty will be, there's just a very limited schedule left in the calendar for congress and then come january it's a new day on capitol hill with democrats in charge of the house and they get to decide what gets brought forward for a vote. don't expect anything to do with a border wall to be on nancy pelosi's agenda. so the president's trying to ratchet up support for border funding while he has the last breath of a republican-controlled congress. he is also talking today via twitter about another what could be a bipartisan goal and that's criminal justice reform. something that his son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner is working on and something that many democrats basically support. there's some pushback among republicans. this would change some of the required sentencing guidelines

for judges. it would allow an easier way for people who have been presumably rehabilitated in print to get employment. it was a comprehensive package they have been working on for a listening time. can that get done before january? that's a big question mark, as well. we have put up the tweet the president calling on democrats to do that. the other thing we have been watching is how the president has some personnel slots to fill. we needs a new ambassador to the united nations, a permanent attorney general and may want to do shaking up of his cabinet or senior staff and asked about that in a wide ranging sort of pre-dinner talk-a-thon and the president had the idea of using mar-lar-o for interviews. >> overall we're very happy. >> are you doing interview this is week for that? >> yeah. i'm doing interviews this week. i'll do interviews as we say in the southern white house.

people like doing interviews here. >> what -- >> i'll let you know. >> reporter: one of the hard parts is that we don't have an opportunity to see anyone who goes in and out and then rely on the white house to tell us if the president did, in fact, have in-person meetings or phone call interviews or anything to help fill the 14r0slots and that's h to track down and we'll continue to ask about. ali? >> thank you, kelly o'donnell in west palm beach, florida. let's get analysis of all of this. we are trying to make sense. president trump was hammering away on immigration and caravans. after the midterms seemed to quiet down. the troops are scheduled to go home shortly but now the president has moved this up to an argument with the judiciary which got him into a bit of a war of words with the chief justice of the supreme court.

where do you think he's going with this? >> i think that president trump has been focused on immigration before he was a candidate, after he became a candidate and out there his presidency. there are ebbs and flows of how much he talks about this but immigration i think is one of the central thing it is a he thinks galvanizes his base. it's an argument of people brown and black in this country and pose a danger to white people. i think the president is saying i'll take the hardest steps to take. people can use lethal force now at the border if you see immigrants coming into this country illegally and then he's very upset at the idea that the courts have stopped him time and time again when he tries to enact immigration policy that's unconstitutional. >> by the way, the idea that the -- of being using lethal force seems to imply or allow some people to think there's

some threat. asylum seekers at the southern border don't tend to produce any kind of violent threat. elliott, let's talk about this criticism of the courts. the immigration stuff didn't work as well for donald trump in the midterms as he had been hoping. is this different? is this riling the base with the courts or a method to the madness of the investigation into him and collusion in the election? >> the president has been incredibly successful of destabilizing or mocking institutions like the courts, like the judiciary and the justice department as we have been seeing over and over again and frankly most americans have no idea that the ninth circuit is. if the president says it's bad enough times eventually people will start to dislike it and all this stuff he's been talking about the ninth circuit overturned more than other courts is not true. it's fake news for lack of a better term. i clerked on the 11th circuit in florida, alabama and georgia and overturned as much as the ninth

circuit. president's not criticizing it because it's florida, al a.m. and georgia as opposed to california and hawaii and wisconsin and oregon. pardon me, and washington and oregon. what he is doing is going after the big western liberal states and the courts that serve there. but what he's doing is picking at the institution and hurting people's faith in a fundamental institution. if you don't like the decisions that are coming down repeatedly from the courts, you're probably doing something wrong and as the president has -- time and time again on daca with the children, with respect to asylum and a number of immigration things, he tried to stretch the boundaries the administration has to what's legally permissible and they keep getting slapped down in the courts. when you try to test the limits of the law you're going do keep losing. >> i'm sort of fascinated. i'm stunned. yesterday i was listening to the president's phone calls to the troops. it's a remarkably low bar to mess that one up. that is literally calling them, thanking them.

asking them how they're doing, expressing thanks. yesterday in the course of a half hour the president said he's most thankful for himself, his remarkable performance as president. he talked about the fact that the economy was in a tail spin before he took over and going down in terms of gdp 4%, 5%, 6%. that's an absolute lie and he asked a coast guard member about international trade. he asked somebody in afghanistan if they're having a good time out there. yesterday was sort of an unhinged at a new level for this president or maybe it's not. i don't know. >> i think it was really trump being trump which i think has sometimes feels normal because we have seen president trump kind of go off the cuff and ramble at times. but in essentially he's always been who he really is at the core. the people i talked to supporting president trump they like the idea, the fact he is a person who free wheeling and talking about the coast guard saying the brand of the coast guard gone up under the presidency and all about branding, all about talking

about his accomplish. s and sometimes people love it and think it's everyone voted for or can't stand it looking at facts and wanting the president to be more presidential. but he is still the president and maybe that's what the presidency is for now at least. >> a quick question. you have spent years as i.c.e. the president talked about shutting down the southern border. can you tell me a bit about that? >> that would be disastrous on an epic scale and not sort of activist immigration stuff about who we are as a country. literally for the economy of the united states would be disastrous. the numbers are something like a million border crossings a day. in the -- you know, across the u.s./mexico border. >> cars and vegetables. >> people coming into the u.s. to work. not just tourists and not just trucks and cars. this is hugely beneficial to our economy and talking about shutting -- i think $600 billion

in goods in those vegetables and cars. so sure. you can throw the baby out with the bathwater but the baby here is the economies of california, arizona, texas and new mexico. disastrous way to do that. >> i talked to a source at the department of homeland security just yesterday over thanksgiving and that person said, you actually can't physically close the border. you can close the ports but tunnels and people that can run over water. there's no official way to really shut down crossings at the border in the way that the president wants to. that's why you have fencing and more people being hired to guard the border but just closing down official ports that source told me isn't going to accomplish what the president wants to accomplish. >> shut down the good stuff you get from mexico. just leave it. >> but again if you say you're doing something it will whip people up and excite them and in reality it's bad for the country. >> thanks to both of you for being with me on this black friday. all right. former secretary of state hillary clinton's taking heat after saying that europe must

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she said in an interview, quote, i think europe needs to get a handle on migration because that's what lit the flame. but i think it's fair to say that europe has done its part and must send a very clear message. we are not going to be able to continue to provide refuge and support because if we don't deal with the migration issue it will continue to roil the body politic. i want to bring in chris whipple, author of "the gatekeepers. " i'm puzzled by this. it is not sort of a position that hillary clinton articulated ever before. >> yep. >> and, b, she did provide context around the comment and the context doesn't seem to clear it up. >> it doesn't. it's really puzzling and, you know, it's -- may be more proof if any further evidence were needed that hillary clinton is no bill clinton, especially in his prime. i mean, it is tone deaf. it's reminiscent of how she's been tone deaf about bill

clinton and the context of the me too movement. you know? she seems to be off her game. now, you can imagine that maybe she -- what she meant to say was that european leaders need to get a handle on migration and not let the idealogues exploit it. it's puzzling. >> it doesn't seem to be anything in the history that suggest this is sort of thing so looking at mississippi and the senate election and every time we look into hyde smith it's where she supported causes that are dubious. this isn't part of hillary clinton's background, holding back on immigration and migration of refugees especially. >> it seems so counterproductive. it seems to feed into the donald trump playbook, the anti-immigration agenda, the nonsense about the caravan and

so look. i think that the democrats would be well served if hillary clinton would keep her powder dry and just try to keep a very low profile between now and 2020. >> so i guess that's always the issue, right? she is such a high profile person and people do clamor to hear from her but in march she was in mumbai. "the washington post" reported that she made a comment saying i won the places that are optimistist, diverse, moving forward and again i think it's like the deplorables comment. right? she is -- you suggest maybe it's off her game. out of practice. i don't know. it doesn't seem to make sense and appeal to a group that would typically be her base. >> and it makes no sense. in another way which is that obviously donald trump would love to run against her again. to use her as a foyle and makes no sense on any number of levels. now in her defense, let me say, she said a few things in the

piece i thought were right on. one is referring the total collapse of the republican party and reminded of when john podesta said that the republican caucus was a cult worthy of jonestown. he had to apologize for that and now it's true of the entire republican party. the other thing she said was that the media needs to be tougher on donald trump and i actually agree with that. i mean, i think yesterday's fact free tirade -- >> amazing. >> -- in which the president of the united states referred to 500 serious criminals in the caravan somebody should have interrupted and said, excuse me, mr. president. what's your evidence for that? did you just make that up? so i actually think that the white house press corps needs less decorum, not more. >> right. >> hillary was right about this. >> you're generous to call that fact free yesterday. it was -- the president issued a lot more lies than we could keep up with yesterday.

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we are learning more about the cdc warning not to eat any romaine lettuce and throw away what you have on hand and may be tainted with a dangerous strain of e. coli. the fda offered some clues today about the source of the outbreak when the chairman tweeted the romaine implicated in the current outbreak is likely from california based on growing and harvesting patterns. the goal now is to withdraw the product from the market and then restock the market. new romaine from different growing regions including florida and arizona will be harvested soon and working to

label produce for location and harvest date and possibly other ways of informing consumers that the product is post purge. we want to help the unaffected growers get back in production and enable stores and consumers to restock. one goal is to be the new standard as a way to improve identification and traceability in the system. all right. all of that sounds pretty good. the fda hoping to share more information by monday. so far 32 people in 11 states have been sickened by this outbreak. until we sort this out, though, if you have romaine on hand, get rid of it. clean everything it's touched. get rid of it. millions of americans braving the cold to get an early start to their holiday shopping, the national retail federation says more than 164 million consumers plan to shop over the 5-day thanksgiving weekend. jo ling kent is in glendale, california. how much have you saved so far?

>> reporter: people are saving a lot because it's black friday and the big discounted deals and i want to introduce you first to vanessa. you have gotten a pretty good haul here. >> yes. >> reporter: tell me, how have the deals been this year for you? >> i feel like they've been better than last year. a lot of the stores are doing 40% and above so there's like stores like macy's that are doing like 60 and then h & m with 40. buy one, get one free on most of the items. >> reporter: you are getting gifts. you have made purr which is and then free stuff along the way. >> a $75 purchase with victoria's secret you get a pink bag. >> reporter: why do the freebies draw you in? >> it's easier to do the purchases and then give them as a gift to somebody. you know? so it's like saving a lot an they do like a blanket so you can cuddle up in like the cold

nights and stuff. >> reporter: cold nights here in southern california. >> yeah, right. >> reporter: why don't you buy it online? why did you come in? better to touch and feel it or the speed of shipping? >> the speed of shipping sometimes they delay the shipping. i work at finish line and they delay sometimes the shipping. >> reporter: oh yeah. >> my personal family is very picky. i like to make sure everything is fine, correct. it just -- a lot better when you come into the store. it's experiencing better. the customer experience. >> reporter: we have been here and covered so many malls over the years and feels calmer and still very busy and yet seeing the spending numbers continue to go up. >> yes. >> reporter: what's up with that do you think? >> i feel like a lot of people are -- they're just doing their last christmas shopping and stuff before christmas. you know? and then on top of that, a lot of people have been here overnight. some people have been here overnight. >> reporter: we have been here overnight. thank you so much for sharing

your christmas shopping list with us. you have a long day ahead, as well. we appreciate your time but, ali, vanessa is a great example of so many of the shoppers here. but we also have talked to some shoppers saying the deals aren't necessarily better at some other stores and a mixed bag getting through this really busy holiday retail season. as you know, more critical than ever for the stores to survive this holiday season. >> i tell you what. lou frankfurt who founded coach years ago told me they started to put men's stuff in the store. i said who buys the stuff? he said not man. no man can tell you where the belt came from or the wallet came from and only buys a new belt is when it's about to break. and yesterday i said to myself, my belt which i think is probably 20 years old is about to go. so this morning i went online and i bought a new belt for $20.99 and it will last 21 years. and that's a buck a year.

>> reporter: that's impressive. >> my contribution to the economy. good to see you, jo ling kent for us in california. i'm not the pride of black friday but i like to do my part. stocks continued to fall today. trading open half a day today. a volatile week on the market. pretty volatile day, too. the dow dropped, capping off the worst week's decline since 2011 after president trump made yet another false claim about the economy that he inherited. >> we are a true economic power. far greater than we were before i became president. we are an economic power that is far greater than we were. when we were -- when i took over, we were teetering. we were in bad shape. going down to minus 4, minus 5, minus 6% in gdp. instead last quarter we hit 4.2%. and we are -- we are doing very

well. >> no. in the fourth quarter of 2016 the last quarter that barack obama was president the gross domestic product grew 2.1% after 11 straight quarters of growth. you know, ron, there are ways of interrupting the economy. >> yep. >> differently. >> sure. >> that's not one of them. >> say it was below potential. >> could have been better. >> could have been better. >> he said it was going down minus 4%, minus 5%, minus 6%. it was going up 2%. >> the commerce department that the president runs is arbiter of gdp figures and easily identifiable as being false. >> right. >> as you say 11 quarters of straight growth, 98 months of gains in jobs so that predates the president, as well. an saying that we are a global economic power today where we haven't been before. we have been since the end of

world war ii. we have larger shares of global gdp when germany was destroyed, japan wasn't in the game. >> but so yesterday was just a whole bunch of lies in a row. the president then said he would shut down the mexico border entirely. seal it off. >> you want to slow economic growth, let's keep any immigrants from coming in. there's a -- we have talked about this before. >> or cars or agriculture. >> tariffs on china. we talked about this before. there's a simple equation for gdp. it is labor force growth plus productivity growth is gdp growth. >> correct. >> we have the lowest birthrate for 70 years. >> the replacement race. people don't have children as much. >> we have 7 million open jobs so you need h-1-v visas. you need low skill workers coming in. so he is placing constraint on the economy and from what we're seeing right now economic growth estimates coming down to 2.5%

and are expected to be reduced even into 2019 to 2%. >> just to be clear. this is really important when people -- gdp is an abstraction for a lot of people. >> it is a simple call collision at the end of the day. >> without population growth -- >> you cannot grow. >> the president's -- immigration adviser miller -- >> steve miller, why. >> they're not even in favor of increased what they would call legal immigration. >> cut it in half, actually. >> that's not good for gdp either. >> no. this is really misguided policy. you can talk about it from a social perspective and -- >> right. but just for purposes of economics. >> pure economics, the math does not add up. the claims of the economy in tatters, going back to august of 2016, we started to see domestic and global growth accelerate in a unified fashion and until recently a synchronized global economic recovery. one could argue some of the policies disrupted that. weakened china. might be a political goal of the president and won't help our economy going further with it

and we seen europe slow down and japan. japan had a negative gdp quarter and germany. >> let's run through the numbers here and talk to me about them. markets year to date. the dow given up about a percent. the nasdaq is up 1%. start if you would invest in the beginning of the year. >> 2.5% and a t-bill. >> more money than that in a bank, in a normal savings account. look at home loan rates. 30-year fixed loan. right? if you put 20% down, in july of 2016, if you bought the market that costs you $1,500 as a mortgage. rates going un. oil prices over five years. we are still at the low end of things compared to five years ago at $100 a barrel. settled at about $54.50 yesterday. based on -- >> came down again today. >> down a little bit further

today. based on the things where are we? what do you get to say about the economy? >> we are headed for a growth slowdown in the united states and worry about a recession overseas. when gdp contracts in japan and germany, that's a warning sign. china is slowing appreciably. the u.s. is slowing some. the housing has slowed and auto sales. investment by companies did not materialize as promised an something that the economists are beginning to watch carefully because if it doesn't come around that's an engine for growth. we're riding the back of the consumer who as we saw from glendale appears to be strong. >> that consumer particularly strong. i bought a belt. >> bag checks are important. doing mall checks, if people are just walking around and going to restaurants, that's one thing. carrying five bags like that young lady was, spending money. >> i need a pair of gloves and might be another purchase. >> my belt size changes radically. >> make extra holes in the belt.

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come january when the balance of power shifts to democrats from republicans in the house democrats on the house intel committee say they want to probe the president's relationship with saudi arabia. that's according to new comments by the man likely to lead the committee, congressman adam schiff. this comes after a week of pro saudi comments from the president including these from yesterday's phone call. >> saudi arabia's been a long-time strategic partner and they're investing hundreds of billions of dollars in our country. i mean, hundreds of billions. they're keeping the oil prices low. >> all right. "the new york times" reports the house of saud might be seeking a nuclear weapon under the guise of a deal with the united states to create nuclear power plants begging the question how far is this president going to go for the art of the deal? joining me now, former advise evelyn farka and malcolm nance

who's a msnbc terrorism analyst. welcome to both of you. thank you for being here. evelyn, this is interesting. saudi arabia is talking about the same sort of stuff that iran always talked about, that they said was a domestic power generation effort that much of the rest of the world thought was an effort to get nuclear weaponry. saudi arabia is basking in president trump's disdain for iran that runs so deep they seem to get away with an awful lot. >> murder. >> with murder. exactly. that's exactly right. >> just say it. >> yeah. >> yeah, no. i think the problem is this. we have a crown prince now who's next in line and basically running the country as if he were the king. he has the king's blessing. and he's been running a foreign policy, leave domestic policy aside for a minute. he is running a saudi foreign policy that's really very volatile. it's dangerous to u.s. interests and dangerous to saudi and

middle eastern interests and stability. >> right. >> what do i mean? >> a blockade on qatar. u.s. troops are housed. they have exacerbated the war. >> the war in yemen. >> the worst humanitarian crisis in the world right now. >> and then the nuclear quest. this is not entirely new. the saudi kingdom back to the '90s has had the sense they had to have a hedge against iran on the nuclear front. right? and to some extent towards israel. right? they forged a close relationship with pakistan because in the '80s and '90s pakistan started already in the '70s -- >> correct. >> started a nuclear program calling it an islamic bomb if you will and then the understanding is there's probably some saudi funding going in there and agreement if the saudis needed access to a nuclear program because the threat of iran that much bigger to r50e67 over to pakistan and get the help and the actual weapons probably from pakistan.

so this was kind of understood in u.s. government circles there was an agreement and the world has lived with that kind of understanding because it didn't seem like the saudis would reach for a nuclear program on their own and of course the fact that the united states was negotiating with iran to put them in the nuclear box if you will. to shut down their program at least for 15 years meant that the saudis wouldn't have a reason to do that. again, our government comes under trump, president trump and comes in and throws the agreement out the door. the europeans are trying to keep the i rranians in the agreementn the saudis are nervous in part because of what we did and then an impetuous crown prince taking actions that are rash, doesn't think things through and if the saudis get access to a nuclear weapons program it's as destabilizing as it is for iran to have one. >> malcolm, the president hangs his support of saudi arabia on two things. one is the massive amount of

money and jobs that he claims america is getting which is provably false and the other is a bulwark against iran/terrorism. we have known that saudi arabia's had a hand in terrorism for decades. we continue to do business for them because it suited american interests to do so and in this particular case it does seem that the president's got the head in the sand about saudi arabia. >> well, he does and that's because he's decided that iran is the end all be all threat in the world. i mean, let's be frank. 15 of the 17 hijackers on 9/11 were saudi citizens who came to the united states legally using saudi arabia, you know, visa system an then carried out the largest mass atrocity against the united states. granted, that was terrorism. osama bin laden, saudi citizen to original al qaeda and then

rooted in the saudi extremism system of religion in their own country. they themselves turn a blind eye to how hard core their followers are. but now they have taken a solid line against iran which jives with donald trump and it appears that they're willing to do anything. you know, if saudi arabia really wants a woman thbomb they don't worry about us. they can just put $100 billion on the table and pakistan could buy, sell some of their 120 nuclear weapon arsenal which would change the balance of power overnight. >> evelyn, real quick. at some point does saudi arabia overplay its hand? they have been given a free hand. they don't have to end relations with saudi arabia but kind of calm things down a little bit? >> i think they have overplayed

the hand, ali. of course, we already saw in congress a huge ground swell of opposition to the yemen war before this assassination of khashoggi, jamal khashoggi, the journalist but then trying to cover it up and getting the president complicit they have gone too far and numerous countries, germany, said no more arms sales. >> thanks to both of you. it's almost time for the senate runoff in mississippi. polls show her in the lead despite comment that is she'd attend a hanging. and that suppressing democrats from voting would be a good thing. what is going on in mississippi? we'll find out after this. g, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they were on it. it was unbelievable.

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ends tuesday in mississippi. republicans are hoping the state senate's runoff will allow them to widen their hold. racially charged comments by cindy hyde-smith have led some democrats to believe the seat koul could be in play. mike espy is calling the comments embarrassing to mississippi but he still facing an uphill battle. it's deeply red state. daniel, good to see you. the struggle people are having, nobody knew about cindy hyde-smith. people were wondering if she was misinformed or didn't know that

was a bad thing to say. her response and her subsequent response and the digging that's been done about the fact she has a history of being on the wrong side of race issues in mississippi makes one believe her comments are deliberately intended to gain support among whites in mississippi. >> yeah. this is something that's caused the entire race to become a discussion over race relations and really the state of racial politics in mississippi. that's what we're seeing in both espy's rhetoric and cindy hyde-smith's rhetoric as more news about hyde-smith's past on wearing a confederate hat have come out. >> she spoke about voter suppression. she talked about people who wouldn't be voting for her and maybe okay if they were subject to voter suppression. doesn't seem like there's a consequence to that in mississippi and donald trump will be there to support her. it seems to be a place in state

politics where you don't have to be on the right side of the race discussion. you've got to be on the side that most voters will support. >> nothing that's come out has really caused the race to completely flip in favor of espy right now. donald trump coming in is something that both republicans strategist and democratic strategist say they expect will cause the republican vote to get energized. this will increase turn out in favor of cindy hyde-smith. >> in the end, if mike espy, if more people turn out in this election, how does mike espy get competitive at this point? these gaffes, i don't know if they want to call them gaffes. the statements she's made that may be showing us her true colors don't seem to have hurt her. >> at the same time, those comments have given this race

national attention. espy has been more competitive than a lot have expected. internal polling suggests that this is a single digit race which is a lot better for espy than a lot of people expected a few months ago. >> good to talk to you. thank you for your reporting. more news after the break. you're watching msnbc. up in pai. but he has plans today. so he took aleve this morning. hey dad. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. tylenol can't do that. aleve. all day strong. all day long. now introducing aleve back and muscle pain, for up to 12 hours of pain relief with just one pill.

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