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investigation. court battles and on and on. let's digest. if you thought the last two years was a partisan brawl, you ain't seeing nothing yet. remember one party was in charge of everything. that's not the case anymore. house democrats are eyeing investigations and subpoenas involving some 85 plus white house targets. that's right. 85. the president is threatening democrats that he'll get the senate to investigate them if they go after him. not sure how that works. the senate's top republican is warning democrats against he calls presidential harassment. it's a reminder he said the republicans had done something like that to bill clinton. interesting phrase. voters did send a message that want the president to tone it down. the president seems intent on doing just the opposite. this is what voters wanted. trump versus pelosi. one is unpopular with americans and the other is donald trump. remember, the last two years of

government set a new high bar in government dysfunction including two government shutdowns. one party. two government shutdowns. one lasting a few days. one lasting a few hours. major legislative gridlock. not much of an accomplishment list. now imagine a divided government. if you thought the last two years was partisan nightmare, you ain't seen nothing yet. you know, mark, this is always funny thing about the voters. they tell us one thing they their actions give us something else. they don't want a partisan brawl to get nothing done. they don't want one party in charge. >> you look at that check and balance argument that democrats did use and remember the check and balances the tried and true way.

independents love it. at the end of the day you'll have democrats and house of representatives being a check and balance. the problem is you're a little too much check and balance when house republicans took back congress for barack obama it was one of the best things that could have happened. he ended up having his foil and having a situation he was able to put himself in a trajectory to re-election. >> you sit here you're like newt gingrich was bill clinton's best friend and john boehner was barack obama's best friend into re-election of 2012. you're like could nancy pelosi be donald trump's best friend. >> i get the impression we'll have nancy pelosi's name a lot in the coming months as this comes on. she'll have her own set of problems. a lot of these new democrats came from very progressive areas

and they will have progressive ideals or they were in tough districts and said they weren't going to support her or ran against the democratic establishment. they ran a lot on issues about health care. not on things like investigating donald trump. the committee members leading the idea of investigating donald trump are from the urban or coastal districts. nancy pelosi will have to balance that impulse with the new members who say we are representing a constituency that represents compromise and working together. >> none of them said we want more accountability of donald trump but they knew that's what they were getting when they decided to vote against him. did they know that was part of the deal or did they really mean it when they say don't just use your power to investigate. >> i think they wanted to slow down the trump train. it's not just where trump is on policy. it's who trump is. who he is on twitter and it was

a way of registering i'm not comfortable with this. i don't want the country to go in this direction. i'm going to vote for the democrat. i do not think they were voting for impeachment or investigations. compromise, i'm sure they were voting for. i don't know how realistic that hope was. i think a lot of them said get the democrats back in here to try to rein this guy in a bit. >> everything is better with a montage or a scroll. we have a scroll. look at the number of house probes. there's so many of them we can't just list them. we're doing a scroll. let's let that run here a bit. the parking ligresident's perso cannot walk and chew gum. he's a one track mind in the moment. he views every investigation as an attack on him personally and wants to punish the party behind it. i think the democrats think they

can do both. they with work with him on infrastructure and get him to sign patient's bill of rights that protects pre-existing conditions and they think they can investigate him. trump doesn't act that way. >> looking at that scroll already stresses me out. >> just put that scroll back up constantly. >> 2016 was a great test case. they're putting it up one more time. we laugh at it. you finish you thought. >> 2016 gave us a great way on two different paths. you have donald trump and a 100 different controversy, a hundred different types of scandals versus hillary clinton having really just one kind of e-mail problem. what turned to eed out to be wo it was that one issue. sometimes there's so much out there that no one can concentrate on any one bad misdeed. democrats might be better off going after one or two things instead of 85.

>> you go all over the place. what is the one thing that can get voters? i feel like the most dangerous investigation is the investigation over that hotel because it's about profiting off of the presidency. forget everything else but you came in to the presidency and decided to make money. i feel like that's the most dangerous. >> for a president who repeated the phrase drain the swamp at every single political event and seen how many cabinet members for leaving under disgrace. >> for personal gain and financial gain. >> whether it's tom price. there's an issue of releasing a bit of a pressure valve for the amount of time and energy republicans put into investigating obama. we had fast and the furious. we had the irs, benghazi.

there's a sense of not necessarily revenge -- >> i think it is. what's good for the goose. >> now that we're in power we're going to do to you what you did to obama. if you say this is a political attack, we'll be able to point to the not so distant past. >> so successful against obama. it didn't give short term success. let's have the -- i'm struggling what calling what happened in the midterms. i look at indiana. i look at missouri. i look for any race that democrats won that you're like how the heck did that happen. there's none of those. it was a wave in certain parts. it was a wave in suburban counties up and down the ballot but it didn't spread. how would you describe it? >> i think that's right. even the surprises, oklahoma five, south carolina. they were part of a trend that was building.

>> charleston is becoming like virginia beach than columbia. >> exactly. there's two ways of looking at it. the democrats are grabbing seats they should have had but why can't they extend further. what a wave would be is you win everywhere. if they are holding these urban centers or semi urban centers, why isn't it extending further out? i think this reason is this is just where we are. we're going to be done with huge turnovers for a while. >> you think we're locked in? >> i don't know if we're locked in. there will be a range of seats that go back and forth. republicans have grabbed rural america. this election was the democrats will start taking the suburban areas. this seat will not be available to the republicans barring some kind of catastrophic thing in

2020. they have taken these suburban urban areas and they will be theirs for a while. >> with the changes in jerry mands -- gerrymandering laws plus democrats made enough gains in some key states. this probably gets locked in. >> and usually presidential years too you don't see that much change in house contest. i would go into 2020 and maybe republicans might be able to have 10 or 15 gains on their pickup truck opportunities but democrats left some stuff on the table. >> you could see them both make gains in their own turf. >> when we look back at the 2018 midterms what stands out is when you have a wave election, it meant one side decided not stto show up. republicans did show up. president trump got his people out. it wasn't a wave but boy there were a lot of people riding those surfboards and we saw a lot of wipe outs. >> they did really well in the

areas that they knew they were going to do well in. they did extraordinarily well. they didn't -- ohio governor. like i can't get over that. i cannot sit here and say how do you call it. you didn't win the governorships of ohio and iowa. that's hard to call it wave. >> there were a lot of races where democrats when all the vote would be counted but they got awfully close. in a presidential area maybe they are in reach. i would be most concerned about republican is donald trump won in 2016 by surprising everybody. i have a hidden army. here it is. it popped up and i've captured

pennsylvania. that does not look like looking at the 2018 vote and how fired up. that strategy will not be on the table for 2020. >> it's funny. i talked to one republican strategist who says can't win without him and it's harder to win statewide with him. you can but you have to keep juice on that base. at what point does he run out of caravans? how many? >> kerry and i have krcrunched e numbers. the places that president trump went in and campaigned in, georgia, florida. his job rating was at 50% or very close to it. yes, he ended up the national popular vote was 46%. that familiar 46% he won in 2016. you can see he can change the elector electorate in some places. if i were a democrat, i would be worried by that. >> three state where is the

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welcome back. right now nancy pelosi is the overwhelming favorite to be the speaker of the house. house democrats will hold their leadership elections next week and it's unclear if pelosi's critics can round up enough votes to defeat her, let alone find anybody to run against her. democrats who run in redder districts will be watched that includes candidates like abigail. i spoke and asked her how she

thinks she won in a district that's long been held by the gop. >> we started this campaign getting out in the community, talking to people, having meet and greet events in living rooms and dining rooms across the district. i attribute our victory to the fact our strategy was from the start till the end of the campaign talking to voters about the issues that are most important to them. really listening to people and talking about what their concerns are. their personal stories, their policy concerns and answering questions and shows up and being present in a way that the voters in our district really truly want their representative to be. >> what do you believe the mandate is that you have from your constituents and the expectation, assuming you run for re-election. it's rare that somebody does it after one term. what is the accomplishment you need to have, in your mind, to take back to your con stistitue

to say i deserve this? >> it's to continue be being president of the district and accountable to people, to be accessible to town halls and other engagements. it's to focus on getting things done. we are relatively 50/50 district. my mandate is to work with people across party lines. to focus on the issues important to the people in this district. the most top of mind issue is le health care and the cost of prescription drug prices. people are concerned about health care, other aspects of health care in the rural areas. access issues. people are concerned about educational issues, job and economic issues and career and technical training and parts of our district infrastructure such as broad band internet infrastructure. >> what is that dave failed to do? there's a group of people who

voted for him two years ago who said i'm not doing that this time. i how do you think he lost these voters and what lesson do you take away from it. >> i think we were able to win over voerters by bringing effor to try to solve problems back to government. i focused on issues and talking about the issues and what i wanted to achieve and certainly contrasted with my poeopponent that way. it was really policy based. i was present and showed up across the district. i made a commitment to voters across the district that i'm going to be representative to those who elect me or elected me and to those who did not vote for me. >> you ever been crystal clear. you've not been one of those that's been vague about your views on the speaker ship. you've said this. i won't vote for her under any

circumstances and i won't abstain from a vote to avoid not voting. that mean i will vote for someone else that's not nancy pelosi. has anybody else not named nancy pelosi reached out to you? >> i do not yet know who i would be supporting. i don't know who would be challenging her either. i hope a lot of that will become clearer when new members head to washington to begin orientation in the coming weeks. >> is there anything leader pelosi could say to you to change your mind? >> my focus has been i truly believe we need new voices leading the conversation in washington. it's been source of concern for many of my constituents. i want to move forward in way we're focusing on trying to solve problems and address the issues that are the mandate issues that sent me to washington. i've spoken clearly about my

stance and don't intend to change that stance. >> it looks like she will have the votes. that's tough to separate from many democrats who have tried to do what you have done in the past and it didn't work. how do you think you can somehow keep your distance from a leerds of your own party if they become speaker? >> i think it's not an issue of trying to keep dance. i have a tremendous amount of respect for leader pelosi and all that she's done. my goal and my position on what the speakership should look like into the future is a different thing. it's not an issue of trying to distance myself from anyone. it's an issue of me casting my opinion, giving my opinion and later casting a vote on who i think would be best to lead the house of representatives in this next congress. >> i'm curious what you thought ofrt fa of the fact that many people

came to the polls when we asked them questions about mueller probe and yet a plurality said that disapproved of it. are you concerned that democrats will do too much investigating or do you think some accountable is necessary because enough hasn't been done by the previous congress? >> i think congress has a variety of roles. congress has the role of legislating in way that positively impacts our community. my district has sent me to washington and decided to choose to send me to washington to focus on variety of the issues that are important. congress has an oversight function. i think it's important that where appropriate congress execute and take action on its oversight function. i'm focussed on following the mandate of my voters and where i can find real solutions. how it is i can address through on the legislative side some of

the issues that are most important to people in my district. those are issues of health care and education and good governments and campaign finance reform and jobs as economic growth for our district back home. >> all right. i'm going to leave it there. the new democrat from virginia. it's richmond almost to the northern virginia suburb. a lot of people here saw your tv market ads. i think people are getting familiar with you. congratulations. again. >> thank you very much. up ahead, what does it take to topple a powerful house committee chairman? my conversation with the soon to be congressman from north texas. ♪ we are santa's elves unlike santa's presents, ours don't just magically appear. they're designed, meticulously. every bolt, stitch, line of code tested and tested again. until, finally this.

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welcome back. the scores of open seats this cycle played a huge factor in how democrats won the house. the path included big upsets of incup benkucumbents as well. pete sessions who didn't have a challenger in 2016 had been in congress since 1997. that changed when colin alred ran against him. allred won by a surprising six points. we knew it would be a race but six is a lot when you consider the kind of incumbent he faced in a district that hadn't been on the democratic party's radar screen. i spoke to the congressman elect and began asking if he was surprised by the size of his victory. >> well, i wouldn't say we were

surprised. we were pleasantly, i think -- it was a pleasant surprise. we worked extremely hard here. we had so many people getting engaged in our campaign. we were taking the message door to door, person to person. i think we increased turn out in a way we hadn't seen in a long time. >> to defeat a powerful committee chairman, i'm sure you ran into voters who said, it was part of the dallas morning news edtorial. i think it was part of the dallas mayor's some complaints back and forth but the dallas city officials ended up supporting congressman sessions at time by saying he brings stuff stuff back to glass. how did you navigate that issue. that's usually something elected officials are concerned about losing seniority in congress? >> the fepeople here are ready r

change, fresh ideas. these are not positions for life. they are positions that if you stop doing the job and you lose touch with your constituents and somebody comes along then you can lose your position. i think that's what happened here. i think i had a story to tell about who we were here in north texas because i was born and raised here by a single mother and relied on this community. i think i had insight into what north texas families are facing. >> if you decide to run for re-election and you want voters to support you. what's the one accomplishment you have to have in order to justify your re-election? >> that's a good question. i know this, if i have my way, the first bill out of the next congress will be an infrastructure bill. we are one of the most congested cities in the country here in dallas. we're growing extremely rapidly. we need that investment. i think this we put it on his desk, maybe we can get that

signed. >> i want to ask you about something you said. you were speaking about your own background as somebody who is not white. you said there in an interview. there's some topics i have to talk about differently and some subjects where i'm probably not going to be the one to lead on the issue. you have to be honest and say as a young black men i'm probably not going be the flag bearer for that. what issues do you think you have to navigate carefully? >> what i meant by that is that there are some realities that we have to face that maybe i'm not always going to be the voice of certain movements. what i try to stay focussed on is what's most important to the families and people here in north texas. what they are talking about at kitchen tables at night. i think those conversations are similar across all kinds of groups. it's how will we send our kid to college. what happens if grandma gets sick. these conversations are universal. those are things i stayed focus

on. i think that's what people have responded to. >> you think there's some voters if you spoke out on a racial injustice issue that while they supported you when you didn't speak out, they would on this? >> i don't know. i don't know that what i've tried focus on are things broadly appealing. that have, as i said, cross racial, cross class appeal. those are things that are most on voters minds in an election like this. >> you have drawn the attention of the folks over at the republican national committee. they put out a press release today. the subject line is who will break their pelosi promise? they put you in a category of this. i'm putting it up on screen. it says, they said you are part of the quote, i'm going to avoid the question because of how deeply unpopular pelosi is in my district caucus. it was referring to this idea of would you support nancy pelosi

for speaker of the house. now that this question is on the table, are you planning to support nancy pelosi for speaker of the house? >> what i've said from the very beginning and what i believe regardless of what the rnc has to say and we need to look at who is running. i need to talk to them and hear their ideas. i want to get some kplitcommitm from them. >> what if she's the only candidate? >> if she's the only candidate then that is a different conversation. right now i think there, from the discussions i'm hearing is we will have discussion about who will be running. >> you expect multiple people -- have you heard from other people who are thinking about running for speaker? >> i have not, personally. i've not personally. i believe from what i've been told there may be. i'm going to wait and see what

that is. i haven't spoken to leader pelosi about this. >> has she not asked for your vote yet? >> not directly, no. >> all right. again, congratulations. you haven't gotten here yet. i see you're still in dallas. when you do, we look forward to having you onset. >> of course. thank you. up ahead, a record number of womenlected to the white house. what sort of change could that signal on capitol hill? supplemental insurance. medicare is great, but it doesn't cover everything - only about 80% of your part b medicare costs, which means you may have to pay for the rest. that's where medicare supplement insurance comes in: to help pay for some of what medicare doesn't. learn how an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by united healthcare insurance company might be the right choice for you. a free decision guide is a great place to start. call today to request yours. so what makes an aarp medicare supplement plan unique?

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welcome back. 1992 was dubbed the year of the woman. 2018 clearly topped it breaking records in the number of women elected to the u.s. house. more than a hundred women will serve come january. most of them democrats. democrats got the 23 seats they needed to win back the chairman just on women candidates alone. obviously, they netted more than 23. i spoke to two of the women who fueled the historic shoplift a f -- shift a few days after the

election. i began by asking each of them if they believe their victory was a referendum on president trump. >> no. i think we were able to amass support from democrats, republicans, independents because the overall tenor and tone of politics country. it was an overall feeling like washington was broken and the integrity had been evaporated from the system. it wasn't just the president. he was part of it. >> what about in your district? how much does the president matter in krour your district? >> we had not been well represented. we had a congressman who was not caring for our vote. voted to take away health care and refused to act in the face of escalating gun violence. in our district it was clear about representation and did we

have what we deserve. >> it's hard to think about the fact that you have to immediately think about re-election. let me ask you this congress. what is the one accomplishment you have to have if you seek re-election two years from now? >> we have to protect health care for people with pre-existing conditions. >> the chief promise you believe you made? >> absolutely. >> how do you think that will get done. >> >> it will get done immediately because we can protect the affordable care act and we can stabilize premium prices. lower drug prices. this idea that people with pre-existing conditions might be vulnerable is something i would never support. >> other than health care, i imagine pre-existing conditions was huge in your district to. is there another accomplishment you have to have in other words to earn re-election? >> we have to move on infrastructure and not just talk about it but put money behind

it. i live 15 minutes from flint, michigan. we have a water issue going on in our state. that's a state we have real bipartisan opportunity. people have talked the talk and now we need to walk the walk. >> neither one of you brought up investigations of the president. how do they view the potential wrong doings? how much does it come up and how much should congress focus on this? >> protecting democracy is critical. oversight is critically important and in 115th congress the congressional republicans refuse to do so. i think there's an interest to make sure democracy elections can occur but it's not our primary and chief priority. >> you heard congressman schiff admitted there's all these investigations and they can't cloud the big picture on substance. how concerned are you that it

might? >> we have to watch it. if we can't provide for people and help their pocketbook or their kids, we do not deserve their vote. we can walk and chew gum. we can protect american values and hold accountability for the executive branch but if we can't do things on health care and infrastructure, we're going to lose people especially in the midwest. >> the rnc had a snarky release and you're both in. you're in the i promise to oppose pelosi and support someone new caucus and you were put in the i'm going to avoid the question because of how deeply unpopular pelosi is. i'm going to start with you. is there any way other any circumstance you can imagine supporting nancy pelosi? >> i never want to be disrespectful for anyone who has served especially a woman who has broken glass ceilings. in my district you need to hear what people are telling you.

they want a new generation of leadership. we have a long time now until we have to make this decision in washington hours and days. i'm going to wait to see who else emerges and make my decision. >> where are you on this? >> i believe we have a real opportunity to support a speaker that's going to move forward in agenda. allow bills to come to the floor that would allow us to protect lelt ca health care and jump start our economy in northern illinois. i'm interested in supporting someone who is aligned on that type of an agenda and i look forward to having conversations which whatever candidates running. >> you're still open to supporting nancy pelosis? i'm looking forward to having a conversation with her and whoever else is on the ballot. >> how will you sell your constituents if the top three same leadership? >> i'm going to work with whoever is speaker. i'm going to work with whoever is there. i've got to do right by my

constituents. we're going to work together. amazing as it sounds, americans can disagree and still respect each other and go on and do good work. >> who is the leader of the democratic party? if someone asked you that right now. >> that's a good question. you know, what been really wonderful in this election is that each congressional candidate was able to set the tone and the agenda for their race. i don't know that we have a national leader and i think that's just fine. >> are you on the same boat? >> i'm in the same boat. i think the lesson of this election is you have to run your race for your district. there's no mega message that will win things. we have new energy in our party that's great but it's diverse. >> congratulations. welcome. in the case of both of you, welcome back to washington. >> thanks. pretty good taste of the new democratic conference, at least the freshmen that will make up what will be a very influntial

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time now for the lid. the panel is back. all right. donald trump's been good for one thing. civic engagement. whether you love him or hate him, he gets you to show up to the polls. look at the total turn out. we're estimating more than 113 million total votes. we think it could get as high as 115, 116. 105 million people cast ballots in the house. this makes it only the 2004 -- only the last four presidential elections had a higher turn out than this midterm. higher turn out than 2000. >> it only means 2020 will be humongous. donald trump, if anything, has made people very savvy politicos in this country. not only to be voters but the conversations i was having with regular viewers about what's

going on in california 10. can you tell me about virginia 2. >> we were just lectured about using numbers to describe districts. careful of using too many district numbers. this engagement. people knew who the candidates -- you go and be like see beto t-shirts in new york city. >> also in addition to voter engagement there's candidate engagement. we saw all of these first time candidates putting their name out and running in a way, it's risky to be a first time candidate. it's one thing if you're a state senator or you've run statewide before. a lot of these people were pediatricians or nurses or army vets or other veterans who had no previous experience. outside organizations were looking at them like the book will be huge on those folks. >> thank you.

i don't know if i want to give credit to the washington crowd for backing offer of them tinkering too much but let's be have been recruited six cycles ago. the national democratic party would have had a stereotype about kansas. no, no, no. that can't happen. no, go be yourself. and it worked. >> i think especially in a place like that. like, go out if you're going to a place they don't feel as comfortable about, let's just try something. let's try something different. to me the enthusiasm, the voter excitement, what is it really all about? the fact 2016 never ended. 2016 still has not ended. we are still living through the 2016 campaign. >> i want to put up a quote from terry mcauliffe. take a listen. >> you know, i'm one of the ones -- there's probably 30 or 40 who are seriously thinking about it. i'm going to spend my time over the holidays -- i have five

children spread around the globe. first and foremost you have to have a family discussion and i will do that. >> that was a generic response from any of them. i think he's right, mark. by the way, mcauliffe's in. he's going to see if there's room for him. there may not be. he's well aware that clinton fatigue may be all those things. but he's sitting there looking around going, why not? why not me? i've been a governor in a state that did pretty well economically. >> and yet again, my stress level now goes up. as the political unit, when we put together the issue dossiers for these people internally on the debates, how we script all the questions. but right. but also one thing worth realizing that all presidential fields narrow down and get whittled down. yes, we might start at 30 or 40, my goodness if that really is the case. but voters, money has a way to reduce that. you know, maybe like the republican field went from 17 to 8 or 9 pretty quickly. and maybe 30 or 40 get down to

15 faster than we think it might. >> biggest names that will end up not running that everyone assumes is running now? who is in your head you question will actually follow through? >> first of all hillary clinton. the fact that she has been discussed as a -- you know, people take it as quotes -- >> it was mostly mark penn who might be less knowledgeable about the democratic party than anybody who claimed to have worked in the democratic party in the history of the democratic party. >> and because those generate a lot of headlines. >> they do. right wing headlines. not the serious ones. and he could be the biggest name that's not running. >> joe biden we were talking beforehand. i don't know if his heart's in it. it's a lot to walk back into it again and decide it's something you're going to do. i'm not sure he's going to be in the field in the end. >> bernie sanders. he might do it, but he'll find out it's not as fun doing it the second time around and when you're not the anti-hillary clinton candidate anymore. >> and he had no bar to clear before.

oh. he's the cooky socialist from vermont. now? >> you get the harder questions, more scrutiny. and sometimes the second time isn't as fun as the first. >> kirsten gillibrand is someone who i thought was a definite in. she might be looking around wondering, is there -- i don't think people want to run to just get on the stage. >> right. >> i think they want to see if they had a constituency. i just -- you know, she irritated donors over al franken. the question is is there room for her and elizabeth warren who are vying for that progressive label? >> and what about kamala harris? if she steps into the fray as well. i think it's a legitimate question. i'm not sure if -- look. she brings norksew york, right? but part of the party that's out there is open for a lot of people to grab. >> and now cuomo wants to run. and probably deblasio. she's got a crowded field in new

york. >> a lot of people were looking to the midterms on who was going to be the perfect answer -- >> what works? moderate or progressive? >> it depends where you're looking president are you looking at georgia? are you looking for florida? are you looking at arizona? or are you looking at these house races in these suburban districts where somebody who was a little bit boring began prevailing? >> just look at one in wisconsin. evers. if you can carry wisconsin, you've carried the presidency. >> there's the nonsense experience candidate. maybe klobuchar or biden. or is one person able to actually fuse both of those? maybe that is your nominee? that seems to be the two different buckets. >> beto, sthouhould he run? >> i mean, run to win? if i were him, i'd run to think about maybe becoming vice

president. maybe that's a good reason to run. >> don't run if you don't want to win. because what happens if you do? i'm convinced that bernie didn't necessarily run to win until all of a sudden he could and he wasn't ready to run to win. the team was, but he wasn't. >> do i think he wins? probably no. but if it's him and the fire's there, go for it. >> if he doesn't run? what is his next move? >> the folks who have said he should run in 2020 against john cornyn aren't looking at how unpopular ted cruz is in that state and how that was his shot at winning a senate seat for sure. >> as a native texan here, beto overperformed like you would not believe. and to me there is a potential path for him. the question is can he sustain that enthusiasm and the phenomenon over a three-year period? he caught lightning in a bolt for one year. can you extend that? that's the toughest. >> he ran against the advice of everybody conventionally.

i would argue that's what voters keep saying they want. i mean, you could -- you know, i sort of look at it and say how does he not run? >> i see a lot of obama parallels, too, in the sense he has become this empty vessel for empty democrat who is wanted a place to put a place of hope. he offered it to them and he became this vessel. >> i think he's one of the people that can do both. >> minus the senate seat though. >> abraham lincoln proved in 1858 you don't need to actually win. >> the problem is if you're comparing yourself to lincoln, you need to look in the mirror. all right, guys. thank you very much. that's all we've got for tonight. good luck with the lincoln compare sons, beto. we'll be back. watch "meet the press" this sunday. it'll a good one this sunday. have a wonderful holiday weekend. come on in. you're turning 65 soon? yep. and you're retiring at 67? that's the plan! it's also a great time to learn about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan,

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