demanding answers after police mistakenly shot and killed a black man in a mall on thanksgiving night. later, we will speak with the mother of that victim. and all this as democrats in washington prepare to launch investigations into the president and his inner circle when they regain control of the house in january. more now on that developing news we've been monitoring today at the southern border. hundreds of migrants are at the u.s./mexico border. the u.s. government has shut down the point of entry after large crowds of migrants began running toward the border. its known as the world's busiest border crossing, but right now no pedestrians or vehicles can

gain access to either side. joining me now is university scientist political science professor christine degreer and conservative radio talk show host and hugh hewitt and liberal radio talk show host joe madison. let me go to you christina. the border crossing site where we're seeing hundreds that ran past the mexican border guards and police, but have been stopped at so far the u.s. border. as we hear the president saying maybe 48 hours ago we're approaching a deal to hold asylum seekers in mexico, what does this mean, if anything, to what the president's saying mexico's denying and how does this raise the issue of

immigration and border crossing? >> unfortunately the issue has not been dealt with by either party in a substantive fashion at all. we have a president who will openly lie, right, just in the middle of one conversation. he'll tell about six different lies. so we don't know where his actual intentions -- his actual conversations have been with the mexican government, but what we do know when this president declared this presidency and said that mexicans were rapist. we do know he thinks latinos are a scourge on our economy, country and democracy. so we can make some assumptions, some well healed assumptions about how he wants to prevent these asylum seekers from coming from the country. also part of the conversation is, he's not thinking about and many of the people in the republican administration aren't thinking about the context in which these people are trying to come to the united states. >> why -- >> why do they want to come? what have we done to their nations? what are we not doing as far as

supporting them? what have we done to them over the past decades and more recently to give them the sense of desperation where they want to come and seek asylum. so we know that this particular president has a very unique idea of who an immigrant is, usually someone from europe, and let's just put it on the table, has a white nationalist a white supremacist agenda and these asylum seekers do not feet in his vision of what a real american is. >> you of most conservative american really don't care why they're coming or what they feel the country's done. they want them out and or kept out and what does this scene that we're seeing now at the border, what is it that do in terms of many of the american that supported president trump and how do you react to the statement made by hillary clinton now saying we've got to teal with migrants in both europe and the united states, are you trying to convert her?

>> i think former secretary clinton stated the obvious that immigration is royaling american and european politics and that serious people have to think seriously about it. here's some context for the border, al. there's 1.7 million people living in tijuana. there's 70,000 cars and 20,000 pedestrians a day and there's a grand total of 6,000 asylum seekers from the caravan in tijuana. so i think there's a tendency to overstate a crisis. i don't think its a crisis and i have to disagree with you, i think most center right republicans believe in allowing most people who are in the country without documentation to stay, pending an inspection and making sure there's no violence or crime, but that they are concerned that that which gets report -- rewarded gets repeated and the conversations with the mexican governments right now are designed to stop not this caravan but the next one and the next one so we don't overwhelm borders. borders are necessary in this

world, security requires it. i think its actually going to work out just fine. we just need to have patience. >> well, your numbers are lower than what has been projected and i didn't say they did not want those here to stay here, though many of them don't. i said they want to keep them out. but joe madison, in terms of the argument that has been raised about a sane and fair policy, we have a policy from those that want to just keep all people out from mexico to some that want to see some kind of way to deal with it here as those that are already here as you referred to, to those that have some way in between, but we don't seem to have the same kind of policy for people coming in from other nations. it seems to be mexico or people of color. >> and it is antibrown. there is no question about that

and that's why this group of white nationalists that applaud the president for what he's doing. i mean, the majority -- tomorrow's really going to be a really chaotic situation because, yes, there are thousands that cross that border of the now that border's shut down. most of those people that cross the border every day that we're referring to are working. they work on both sides. i also found it interesting that mexican government, the business people in mexico said, you know what? we've got jobs for these people so maybe that's part of the solution and then you have people on our side of the border that are saying, by the way, we have jobs, i think the president and both parties quite honestly would be -- would be better -- it would be better if they would spend the resources vetting these folks. if you take a look at the film

you're showing now, these are mostly women and children. these are not the criminals that the president -- the terms he uses and this is what bothers people. he uses exaggerations to talk about people who for the most part are seeking asylum and -- >> and he stereotypes them. let me move to another subject as we continue to monitor what's going on at the border. today on some of the sunday shows, we saw the evidence of what will now bring a new congress, the democrats in the majority and we saw both congressman adam schiff and congressman elijah cummins who will now chair people of two separate committees saying that there is real possibilities, if necessary, that they will launch

investigations into the trump administration. what is your prediction here? what is your forecast here? and is this the beginning of some bad days for president trump and members of his administration, hugh? >> well, i think that chairman -- incoming chairman cummins said he had 64 subpoenas ready and i know that adam schiff is a very smart guy and he will have subpoenas going and jerry nadler. i'll tell you this. it doesn't really worry me. they couldn't dent anything. they had it with president obama they couldn't do anything. house committee hearings are a lot of fun to watch and they actually accomplish very little. what president trump -- >> unless, of course, there's evidence -- but hugh, if there's evidence of some indiscretion or some illegality, maybe they couldn't do anything in the last two because there was nothing to get. there are many people that feel

there are things they need to know starting with tax returns all the way to whether or not there's been some improper collusion here. >> and can i say something -- >> its unconstitutional for a member of congress to ask for the president's tax returns. i think a good attorney general will make that case and will tie jerry nadler in knots. get your popcorn. we're going to watch. >> the tax returns is part of what you need for an investigation, i don't think its illegal. but go ahead, joe. >> just cut it out. the reality is this, maybe you should interview a very smart congressman elijah cummins, who is very smart and an attorney and who is on my show who is going to be judicious about his subpoena. on my show, he says he's going to be very careful and also keep in mind, he could not call a single witness. he could not call a single witness when he was the ranking member of that committee. well now, guess who's in charge,

elijah cummins and he gets to call all those witnesses that he couldn't call before. so this isn't going to be about entertainment. this is going to be about getting to the truth. >> yea, you might choke on popcorn if they really dig down deep, but he has congressman schiff talking about his concern about acting attorney general matt whitaker in this administration. watch this. >> the american people need to know whether this president is obstructing justice, whether he's obstructed justice in the past, whether his appointment of whitaker was designed to obstruct justice, whether its having the affect of obstructing justice. we are going to bring whitaker before the congress. >> christina, we're hearing from schiff very specifically what he's interested in raising questions about whether whitaker was part of obstructing justice, whether the president obstructed justice, i didn't go to -- that

sounds like it borders on possible criminal investigations there? >> this particular president as i have said time and time again hasn't read the constitution nor does he respect the constitution or the office of the presidency, therefore we have all these norms that we've had and he doesn't abide by them. what's interesting is, at some point teflon don's luck will run out, he has not yet. however, once someone pulls strings whether its mueller, whether its the newly elected house majority democrats, someone is going to have to answer for some serious questions. without his tax returns, we don't understand why this president's relationship with the crown prince of saudi arabia is such that is because he is a pathological liar and so when he says they spend lots of money at my hotels, i love them, they love me and when you ask slightly deeper questions, well, we don't know them. what's really imperative to remember is that the democrats

have to simultaneously work on this agenda because this is a kleptocracy right now but put forth a vision as to what they want their party to do in the next two years. >> hugh hewitt, sidney hide smith is running on tuesday in the special -- in the run-up election -- runoff in mississippi, she's made some very racial -- racially charged comments and we have all just seen -- we talked about it on this show with the journalist that revealed that she went to a segregated school and put her daughter in a segregated school, yet, the president of the united states who didn't go to the mexican border, he's going to mississippi tomorrow from mar-a-lago and campaign and do two rallies for her, doesn't that further show a lot of people and put the republican party in an awkward position

with those people of, at best, a racial insensitivity and, in fact, that they're playing to the racially bigoted crowd of voters in this country? >> i don't think so, al. mississippi's a red state. the browns beat the bengals today and hyde smith is going to beat mike espy by more than ten points that's because mississippi is a conservative state. she's a traditional senate right republican who began life as a testimony. she spent years as a democrat and woke up and she's just going to walk in because all of this -- they're attempting to beto her into a contender, it just doesn't work in mississippi. under the circumstances a red state, al. >> i'm talking about racial language, i'm not talking about just party here. you did not address the fact about her comments and the fact she was a democrat -- i mean she went to a segregated school, that does not immunize her from

saying bigoted statements and putting her own child in a segregated school. >> so that she wouldn't have to go -- add another part, so that she wouldn't have to go to school with black children. matter fact -- >> well, that's why those schools were founded -- >> thank you. >> they were founded after 1969, supreme court said mississippi had to integrate the schools, they went and found private segregated schools. she was put in by her parents and she did the same to her own child which you'd have to lay at her door. >> we also have to be clear that this is happening all across the country including new york city -- >> i'm talking about the runoff tuesday and the fact the president is going. i want you to address that. he's going to support her. >> yes, because she's a republican who's going to be the 53rd vote in the senate and she's a very center right republican and a very mainstream conservative and all of the attempts to try and turn her into some kind of white

supremacist -- i think mississippi -- >> she turned herself -- >> i think she's going to win. >> hugh, stop it. we know what's in her head. we know what's in her heart and it came out of her mouth. the reality is that the state of mississippi -- and, by the way, i've got a lot of relatives down there and the reality is, mississippi has to decide, does it want to be the old mississippi of the 1960s or do they want to join the rest of the world in the 21st century and when you start talking the language of a public hanging, you start talking the language of all the things that she was saying and all the emblems that she was addressing, you know, and, by the way, mike epsy is almost a centuryist when it comes to a democrat. you ought to love him. he's a free trader. he's moderate. hell, he's more of a republican than you are. >> he represented the ivory coast so he's really not more of a republican than i am and i've never been indicted for 30 charges of fraud which he was

exonerated of but i didn't have to go to trial. mike espy was not the greatest guy -- >> wait, wait, wait. >> come on now. >> he was indicted and not charged. >> you're getting away from the fact that she's made some very biased statements, has a background of putting her child in a segregated school that was founded to stay away from blacks and the president is going there to do two rallies for her tomorrow. are you now saying in order to keep 53 republican seats it doesn't matter if somebody has a background of bigotry and race, is that now what we're saying? >> i don't think she has a background of bigotry and race. i object the premises i think the narrative is completely constructed and completely hard to sell to anyone who doesn't want to believe it. >> i agree its constructed. it was constructed when she decided to do that with her child and to make these statements like they were not bigoted statements, but i'm

going to have to leave it there. christina, hugh and joe, thank you all for being with me. coming up, the midterm elections helped bolster the ranks of the congressional black caucus. how their power is now growing as the new congress takes over? you're watching "politics nation." e pressure cooker that. it's the best of pressure cooking and air frying all in one so in as little as 30 minutes it will be crispy on the outside, juicy on the inside, and on your table. the ninja foodi, the pressure cooker that crisps.

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members it gives a significant block, but, of course, people want change not just seeing careers grow. what can be done and before we even get to january when they take office, what are the things that we need to be careful of in this lame duck session because we're hearing loretta lynch is being subpoenaed. >> yes. >> that the former fbi director comey's been subpoenaed, we're hearing talk about government shutdown if they don't get the money for the wall. >> absolutely. >> what should we worry about or be concerned about or watching in the lame duck before we get to january? >> reverend, we need to stay vigilant. this is the same republican congress that has been obstructionists, have lacked courage and moral guidance. so we have to stay vigilant, those of us who are in congress have to hold the line. we still need the activism in

the streets. its critical because we have so much on the line. i mean, we know that right now health care remains elusive for so many american. we have to hold the line. right now donald trump is using every rule and regulation that he can unilaterally distort in order to pursue his agenda, so whether its getting rid of the individual mandate in health care, he's doing that. we see the all-out assault on the immigrant population here in the united states. the same themes continue to move forward including a distraction or two with a hearing about hillary clinton's emails, once again. >> yea. >> ironically during a period of time where we find out that ivanka and jared and others within the white house have done the same. >> now, in january once the new congress is seated, the majority

becomes democratic, the leadership in the house is democratic and the congressional black caucus grows to 55 members with some chairmanships. so the issues of health care, the issues of criminal justice reform, the issues of voting rights are paramount. we talked a lot about that. what can we -- where can we set the mark to see what can be done and whether or not a lot can be done without the senate being able to stop it since the majority of the senate is still republican? >> well, that's part of the challenge. you think that doesn't stop us from moving our agenda forward. we have some imperatives right now. the anxiety in our nation is palpable, whether you're dealing with concerns around climate change, the fires. this is realtime anxiety in peoples' lives in america, when you look at whether it is the

voting rights act. we're coming out of an election cycle where many of us believe that an election was stolen, whether we're talking about creating economic opportunity. the infrastructure of our nation has to be addressed. this is bipartisan and i believe bicameral. so there are some areas where we know we'll find agreement in the next congress but that does not stop us from promoting, pushing, holding the line, using every tool in our arsenal to advance the other causes that are just as critical at this time, comprehensive immigration reform, what we're seeing on the border right now is part of a greater picture of the immigrant experience in the united states in the 21st century. we deserve as a nation a 21st century immigration system. >> now we're seeing a bipartisan criminal justice bill. your colleague jeffreys helped to start that in the house. its gone now to the senate and even the president has endorsed

it. >> yes. >> we will be able to see some bipartisan effort in terms of climate change? this report that came out 13 agencies under trump saying that we are in real trouble and that by the turn of the century, it could bring down the gdp by 10%. we're talking about crops being affected. >> yes. >> infrastructure being affected. i mean, is this the kind of thing that we can get beyond party lines? >> we're hoping that's the case. again, we have to advance what we know is important to the american people, to protect them and to move us into a way of life that is not dependent on fossil fuels. the bottom line is that our carbon footprint has become a monster on top of all of us and we have to to everything that we can to advance everything we know, whether its new technologies, whether its new opportunities, building out an

infrastructure that takes all of that into account, creating entrepreneurial opportunities and jobs all in the sake of saving ourselves in this nation in terms of climate change. the congress is ready to make that move. we're hearing a lot from our new members that they want to do a green deal. the energy and commerce committee which i serve on has been chomping at the bit to really make sure that we move this agenda. new yorkers like us know what climate change is. >> right. now we -- and again, these are not just focused on investigating the president. we're talking about legislation and policy. >> absolutely. >> one of the things that's also concerned that you alluded to is voting. >> yes. >> many people feel, many of us feel the snee nan begans in georgia distorted the election and really there was so much done wrong there that voting laws must be straight, there needs to be a map put in, section 5 of the voting rights act.

>> absolutely. >> where are we going and what can we hold the new congress accountable for -- >> the democratic caucus has already made that a top priority and i think we'll be coming out of the gate, that is a top priority but i want the american people to know that we have the team to multitask, to address all of our issues because i know folks get really anxious about every day to day -- the assault that they're under, whether its in health care, immigration, whether its black lives matter at this particular moment in time, we're all called upon to do everything we can while we can pushing every lever that we can to make this change and to make it rapidly. its an imperative for the american people. >> i think the leadership is challenged as we did a couple weeks ago that people came out in big numbers, people came out in record numbers in the midterm elections. >> absolutely. >> and they don't want to be disappointed that they came out and that they don't see real

change and if they don't, its going to be hard for people in politics or people outside like me that are just active to tell them to come out again. >> we have to be transparent with the american people. i think that the contrast between what the democrats are offering and the obstruction and cowardis on the other side of the aisle, they'll see who's reaching out and who's not. they'll see who's manufacturing distractions and who is not. the american people want to see our nation move. we are ready to move with the american people. the agenda is set. we've got a lot of real imperatives before us right now, real life and death and we have to deal with that. >> congresswoman yvette clarke, thank you for being with us tonight. up next, the nra tells doctors to stay in their lane, but maybe the nra should stay in theirs. i got you in just a minute.

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roughly 96 american are killed by guns every day, that's a lot of fathers missing soccer games, mothers missing their child's first step, and a lot of empty seats at the thanksgiving dinner table. so instead of trying to tell doctors to, quote, stay in their lane, maybe try listen to their concerns because dr. tamara o'neal was in her lane and she was still shot to death, but since the nra is so good at crafting statements, i went to see what you have to say to her family, her colleagues and her patients. either way, i got you. i felt this awful pain in my chest. i had a pe blood clot in my lung. i was scared. i had a dvt blood clot. having one really puts you in danger of having another. my doctor and i chose xarelto®. xarelto®. to help keep me protected.

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night. the reason, police have admitted to fatally killing and targeting the wrong man. local police say e.j. bradford jr. likely did not fire the rounds that injured a teenager and the true gunman remains at large. joining me now is e.j.'s mother, april pipkins and attorney that represents the family, civil rights attorney benjamin crump. first of all, let me give you, ms. pipkins our prayers and condolences on the loss of your son and tell us what you and the family know at this point. >> well, at this point, like, the update said that he is not -- they found out that he is

not the shooter. originally, you know, i learned of my son's death pretty much from a close friend of his who called me, but at this point we just know that he was shot by police, shot down. >> now tell us the circumstance. there was a shooting at the mall. how did they end up shooting and killing, the police this is, e.j.? >> reverend al, thank you for having us, first of all, and here we go again. the family of e.j. bradford jr. will need you to come down to birmingham so they don't sweep his death under the rug. this is a good kid. this kid who served our country in the military, who has no

criminal history, who several witnesses say was trying to get away from the shooting and was waving people away from the shooting. the police officer based on several witness accounts came up, saw e.j., a young black man with a gun and they said within milliseconds he shot and killed him and then even though it was unjustifiable for him to pull the trigger, it was also unjustifiable how the hoover police department pulled the trigger and released his face and plastered it all over the media all across the world saying he was the killer and they were celebrating this officer who shot him as a hero and this -- his mother, april, his father, who is a correction officer in the birmingham police department for 25 years knew this was not the son they had

raised. they knew that this was not the character of e.j., so they knew even before the police retract it and said that they lied on their son that it wasn't true. they assassinated his person and then they assassinated his character and they're still trying to justify a bad shoot. >> now, ms. pipkins, let me follow-up on that. tell our viewer what kind of son e.j. was. >> my son was a very loving young man. he would give you the shirt off his back. anybody he could help, he was going to do that. he was definitely going to do that, just like his father has, he was there. he's -- he's stopping by checking on his father saying, you know, dad, is there anything you need? what is it that i can do for you? taking him places.

he even took him to some of his malls. he loved people. >> and he was in the mall on thanksgiving night, this shooting happened, attorney crump, and all of a sudden he ends up shot, killed by police and then they come out and accuse him of a shooting that he had nothing to do with to justify the police shooting him when there was a lot of reaction because there was a shooting by someone that is still at large, is that correct? >> absolutely. reverend al, there seems to be a pattern in america that when police encounter young, black people as the suggestion is, we need the good guys to have guns to stop the mass shootings by bad guys. well, when police officers see good guys with guns, if they happen to be black like jamal

roberson in chicago with e.j. bradford, they don't see a good guy, they see a criminal and they just shoot and this offduty hoover police officer who was providing private security for the galleria mall, based on the witness accounts, he saw a black man with a gun and he shot. we have to say that enough is enough. we are trying to be given the benefit of the doubt. everybody's saying give the police the benefit of the doubt. it was a confusing situation. they didn't give e.j. bradford the benefit of the doubt. they shot him in his face and while he was laying on the ground on that mall on that mall floor they didn't offer him any medical assistance. we have video after video now. a nurse tried to help him give

him medical assistance, the police pushed her back and then they made a rush to judgment, reverend al, and they decided right then that they had taken down the shooter and they had the video. they could have investigated. they could have reviewed it so they assassinated his character. >> they tried him, sentenced him and executed the determination that he was the shooter and took his life. i see you holding a photo of him. tell us what the significance of that photo is to you as his mother, because he's in uniform there. >> he is, reverend sharpton. and my thanksgiving, our thanksgiving, our family thanksgiving will never be the same, because that was the night that they took e.j. away from us. and you know, on this picture, you can see these beautiful, big bright eyes and as a mother i'll

never get a chance to look into my son's eyes. i don't know -- even know at this point if we'll be able to view his body open casket. and in light of that, after all of this has happened, even with them coming back recanting their statement, i have yet to get any type of apology, any type of anything, phone call, period. they didn't even notify me that my son had been killed and that's disturbing. that's disturbing -- >> you're saying that this happened -- this happened on thanksgiving night, this is sunday evening and you still have not gotten a phone call from authorities? >> i still have not. that's correct. i still have not gotten a phone call, a knock on my door or anything.

nothing. >> reverend al, just remember his father was a correction officer for the birmingham police department for 25 years. he knew many of the hoover police department officers. he considered them family and for them not even to call him is just insult on top of injury, literally. >> exactly. >> well, i know -- many of us will certainly be headed to make sure that this is thoroughly investigated and that this family, this is a crushing thing, i'm sure, for this family during the holiday. so april pipkins, look to meet you soon. thank you attorney benjamin crump, thank you both for being with us and i know it was painful but i wanted the viewers around the nation to hear what you had to say, ms. pipkins, thank you for being with us.

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with the midterm elections drawing to a close, the political world is beginning to focus on the 2020 presidential elections. many politicians have said they are considering a run for the white house but none have officially announced it.

joining me now is martin o'malley, the former governor of maryland who ran for president in 2016. governor, thank you for being with us tonight. before i go to 2020, i understand you were in mississippi yesterday campaigning for michael espy. >> i sure was. it's an exciting race. people are -- people in mississippi are very, very engaged. i was able to go from headquarters to headquarters and saw a lot of people, you know, working the phones, going door to door, barnstormed with the rising star of the mississippi democratic party representative jeremy anderson. we had a great day. so mike espy is an outstanding candidate. i think a lot of people are pulling for him. i think he is speaking to the goodness within the hearts of the people of mississippi and i'm hoping for the best on tuesday. >> now the election is tuesday, just two days away. but donald trump, the president,

is coming there tomorrow to campaign for the opponent of mike espy who has said some very racially charged things, who has a very questionable background in segregation. so the president comes do you remember to you ought to be pulling the country together, coming down on the side of those who have really add best some devisive rhetoric and choices. how do you think if donald trump ru defeated? what kind of candidate does the democratic party need to put up against a donald trump? >> we have nominate a man or woman that can tell a credible story about where we're headed as a country. what do i mean by that? i mean we need as a party to not

only con frofront our challenge that's we face within our country, the division, the fears. but we also need to confront the fact that our economy and our world is changing. and it's changing fast. and we need to call the people of the united states forward to actually do what our parents and grandparents did. face our challenges head on. face them head on. and take the action that's actually give our children and grandchildren a better, safer, more prosperous future. i was listening earlier to your interview with the congresswoman from new york who i think was giving voice to what i hear as a rising voice within the democratic party that says, look, the future is not all darkness, gloom, and doom. there is actually more jobs to be created by confronting our challenges like climate change. but there is one other thing we need to do as well as a party,

revs re reverend and that is we need to address the need for democracy reform in our own country. that means a constitutional right to vote so we don't see in places especially like mississippi and north carolina, georgia and florida sort of the, you know, the 1,000 cuts that shave off and discourage people from voting. that means financial reform in terms of campaign financing, publicly finance selections and end to gerrymandering and redistricting. as a party, we need to lead with the democracy reforms and then call people forward to the economic reforms that give our children more opportunities and more jobs. look, the future of our country is the future of more inclusion for more people. not the donald trump future where we're bankrupt nation that has to be driven into the ground like some obsolete hotel chain. no, our country is big enough and large enough to carry the hopes and dreams of the great

diversity that is the united states. all right. and we're going to stay tuned to see if you decide to put your hat in the ring to possibly challenge in 2020. former governor martin o'malley. >> stay tuned. >> up next, my final thoughts. ♪ ♪ ♪ the united states postal service makes more holiday deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. ♪ with one notable exception. ♪ pai'm open to that.medicare? lower premiums? extra benefits? it's open enrollment. time to open the laptop... ...and compare medicare health plans. why? because plans change, so can your health needs. so, be open-minded.

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years. but we need this new congress to enact laws to deal with gun control and gun reform and police reform. we can't keep going from incident to incident, from situation to situation and not have real concrete legislative change. as we end this thanksgiving holiday weekend and get ready for christmas, all i want for christmas is this new congress to sit down and plan as they come into power in january. how they are going to legislatively lead to real fund. al and basic change in areas like guns, like policing. we can't keep comforting families and giving press releases explaining what should

never have been an occurrence in the first place and needing of an explanation. the only thing we need is to legislatively change what decisions and options and punishment is there for those that would step on the wrong side of the law and these situations but the law must be there. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next saturday. up next, "meet the press" with chuck todd. this sunday, president trump takes on his own government. the cia, dismissing its finding and siding with the saudi crown prince in the khashoggi murder. >> maybe he did, maybe he didn't. >> election integrity, questioning those results. >> all of a sudden, out of the wilderness they find a lot of votes. and the federal courts after