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what we witnessed this weekend is yet another reckless russian kaes lace. >> and cold shoulder, the white house brushes off its own administration report on global warming, despite the findings that climate change is intensi y intensifying and without policy changes will cause massive challenges to the country's health and economy. >> climate change is loading the dice for more extreme and destructive weather events in the future. we are already feeling the impacts. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. u.s. border agents use tear gas to repell mexican migrants at the border. the president is threatening to close the southern border this morning. he claims with no evidence, what he calls stone cold criminals.

this after a weekend tweet from the president suggesting he was going to change u.s. policy. a proposal of questionable legality. mexican officials say no agreement has been reached, as thousands of people, including many children remain in limbo. a shocking 60 minutes report about the shocking policy about separating children from their parents. joining me now, gadi schwartz, allen gomez and phil rutger and kimberly atkins. welcome all. first to you, gadi, what is happening there today. >> well, today looks like another day of very high tension here along the border, in particular here, where we are at the caravan, i'm going to show you the lay of the land here, over there, that's the border,

you see that fence in the background, then you see there are police officers all over this area. in fact, something big is about to go down, and it appears you have police here. these buses were sounded by these large buses. there are more buses down the street, all of these buses were surrounded by police. now the police are taking this defensive stance all the way around the caravan. i'm going to take you down here and show you where the caravan is. it looks like this is something that is putting this neighborhood on lockdown. we were talking just a little while ago, to a woman who lived here, she said that she was taking her kid to school. and the schools have been told they will not be in session today. we're going to get in this car fast, and we're going to drive down -- [ speaking spanish ] -- it's just a quick short

drive. i'm going to show you where the 5,000 plus members of the caravan are congregating. it's going to be a very tense situation. whatever happens here, we've asked authorities here what's going to happen, it looks like there's an operation underway, they have said nothing, we have heard rumors that there may be an attempt to go inside of the shelter and possibly try to remove some of the people that were involved in yesterday's incident at the border. we're going to go right around these cars and there's going to be a large group of people you're going to see. this is the outskirts of the caravan. >> walk this way with me. this right here is the outside of the caravan. we have police that are lining up all the way around here. and then you've got outside here, it's mostly men. many from honduras, guatemala,

el salvador, inside there are a lot more families, the majority of this caravan appears to be men. they're standing here in line, they've been in line for food every day. they get food every day, twice a day here. the kacaravan has grown in size. it's going to be up to mexican authorities to determine who was involved in the incident yesterday that happened at the border. there were rocks thrown at the border, mexican authorities have been reviewing surveillance video and videotape to try to determine who was involved. there are so many people out here, many people here trying to claim asylum and waiting for their chance to go to the border and wait will other people growing extremely frustrated. andrea? >> thanks, gadi for setting the stage for us. allen go he m-- gomez, let's tak about the policy, mexico would keep people on the mexican side

of the border until they get asylums processed. that would be a big change in policy and law. there was push back from mexican officials. what is your understanding of where it stands right now. >> they were definitely in ongoing negotiations, to fry to figure out a way to house these migrants in mexico, while they wait to apply for asylum. but this could be very interesting, december 1st is when the new administration comes in. and he's struck a decent tone with president trump ever since wing his election, but he won his election based on being the anti-trump candidate. so we're starting to see the first signs of him fighting back and pushing back against that. underlying all of this, is the fact that all those migrants we saw, the big, big mass of people there at that port of entry where they're trying to get in, the u.s. can process fewer than 100 people a day.

we just got off the call with the cdp commissioner a little while ago. for all this manpower going down to the border, all the military, the additional border patrol agents, they have not done a similar effort to speed up or increase the number of asylum applications they can process each day. the mass of migrants in tijuana is going to continue to swell, and our ability to process them and relieve that pressure has stayed static at fewer than 100 a day. >> we saw this as well, allen, and all the rest of us. we saw this after the separation of children from their parents policy was initiated. and all of our reporting was, there was a slow walking of processing at the border, despite the aclu and other groups arguing for more judges, nothing was done, to the contrary, it was almost a deliberate stockpiling of people at that side of the border in terrible conditions. phil rutger, the

administration's policy here has been so questionable, the most recent indictment of it really was 60 minutes last night, with a draft inspector general report from dhs, saying there had been an initial unauthorized and unrevealed separation of children from parents decision put into effect six months earlier, and that some of these kids are taken without -- according to one whistle kbloeer who quit from the civil rights division, saying that he quit because they put the policy into effect, jeff sessions so eager to do that, without any procedure for tracking these families and uniting them. >> clearly you see the white house and sessions when he was the attorney general, trying to implement policy. he's very adamant with his team, he wants these borders to be secure. he does not want these migrants to cross into the united states, and he uses language like he used on twitter today, calling

them criminals without any evidence. many of them are family members trying to seek asylum here peacefully. you see right now, kirstejn nielsen who is fighting to save her job and save her standing with the president, trying to be as tough as possible and stretch the boundaries of what is legal in executing the president's policy. >> perhaps chief of staff kelly as well, who was in charge of dhs when that initial unauthorized and unannounced separation of children and parents was approved. what about the law here? first of all, saying the rules of engagement are that force can be used to protect border agents. how is that possible under pentagon rules under u.s. law, as well as keeping people who deserve asylum adjudications on the mexican side. >> that puts both this decision

to authorizing the use of force by folks in the military, and any potential deal that is struck with mexico. both on shaky legal ground. the federal law prohibits members of the military from acting in a law enforcement capacity on u.s. soil, did seems by any measure, that's exactly what is being ordered here. there are some exceptions, but they would have to prove that. with respect to keeping migrants out of the united states. as their asylum claims are processed, that too under federal law, they're allowed to be in the united states, present in the united states regardless of how they enter while those asylum claims are being processed. the president would need congress to make those things happen. >> i want to play a little bit of munoz who dealt with this issue under obama. this is what she had to say on

60 minutes. >> they issued an order without consulting with the agencies who were responsible for carrying out that order. we take better care of people's effects when we seasoned them to jail than we took care of the children who we took from their parents. and that's because these decisions were clearly made at the top and pushed down to the agencies without thinking through the ramifications. >> so i don't know if there's a political impact or fallout from this as well. you had instances where one of the families interviewed on 60 minutes as we've been reporting on the border, the moms when they are reunited, if they're reunited and some still are not. find that these toddlers, these infants don't respond to their own parents. >> it's a horrible humanitarian crisis and it has been from the beginning of the family separation policy. and you have parts of the government right now trying to respond, trying to correct this in some way.

but it's clearly not working. you clearly continue to have families struggling that are torn apart, and it's a real problem at the border. and the president is so adamant in hammering his sort of ideological agenda on immigration that it's created problems inside the government. >> to say nothing of the demonizing of all of this by calling them a caravan and describing them based on no observable facts. >> no middle easterners without any evidence of that. >> 500 murderers in the midst, et cetera. >> yes. >> thanks so much. coming up, rough seas, tensions rising, as russia seizes ukrainian ships. a live report from moscow coming up here on andrea mitchell reports next. a wealth of information. a wealth of perspective. ♪

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the u.n. security council has an emergency meeting today, after russia opened fire and seizes what it calls three ukrainian war ships, claiming they had trespassed into russian territory waters. a russian ship rammed three of its vessels. ukraine's president wants parliament to declare martial law. bill neely is in moscow. former director of the national

counter terrorism center joins me right here. >> what is russia sighing? >> yes, so andrea, this is a stark reminder of the unfinished business between these two nations and of the virtual undeclared war that's cost 10,000 lives since russia's illegal annexation of crimea nearly five years ago, within the last few hours, sergei lab rov has been speaking. we know what happened, but we're not sure why it happened. this was a plans a planned provocation by ukraine. it was plartly to gain the west's attention before the g 20 summit and also a matter of internal politics. he's behind in the polls in march. he's suggesting they've played the security card, creating

military hysteria as lavrov says. he has asked for martial law to be declared, that would delay those elections, you could say there is some merit in that claim, there is enough doubt, that's what sergei is trying to do on the other hand president putin has plenty of reasons to engineer something like this. the g-20 is coming up, he may want to test president trump who you will remember accused president obama of letting russia invade crimea. president putin may also want to establish a de facto sea border at the straight effectively cutting ukraine off. certainly harming its economy. each side is blaming the other, i suppose what's ahead is, what will president trump say, what

will he do about this, there are already calls for economic sanctions against russia, and is it over? this is president putin's spokesman. this is a dangerous situation, and nato has warned of the dangers of escalation, and just in the last few minutes, nikki haley warning russia against escalating this any further. andrea? >> thanks to you and nikki haley, here's part of what she had to say. >> we call on russia to respect its international obligations and not obstruct or harass ukraine's transit. and to de-escalate the tensions it's created. as president trump said many times, the united states would almost a normal relationship with russia. outlaw actions like this one continue to make that impossible. >> her statement was the first

from the u.s. side. canada immediately came out criticizing this overnight. but the u.s. was silent until this u.n. security council meeting, so the president has not been speaking out about this at all. >> that's certainly right. also the eu spoke out, which is not surprising given the stronger diplomatic role they played. and in fairness, nato did. but yes, silence in the white house, which is pretty distressing, given that we have a powder keg, it's a powder keg that we've had in armed conflict since 2014 on land. this is moving toward a strategically important area of cross border maritime as well. >> what do you think putin's up to. given the fact that he and the president have a planned summit this coming saturday. plus meetings at the g-20 in argentina. >> putin clearly has more problem in ukraine. an effort to expand russian

influence. and make sure nato does not move toward ukraine. i don't want to necessarily attribute this maritime conflict to a strategic move by putin. quite often we've seen these sorts of tactical interactions go bad, it may not be something putin planned. i think obviously with the president and putin, we've seen some fast interactions going back to helsinki, this is a problem in ukraine, which predated president trump, clearly i would say his lack of push back on putin in places like helsinki, that may come back and it may be biting him now, and it will, of course, come up again with another opportunity at the g-20. >> and critics have said that the president's embrace of the saudis in the face of their own intelligence assessment and putin in the face of the intelligence conclusions about the 2016 election, all these

feeds into how totalitarian leaders can defy the united states with impunity. >> president trump inherited this problem from president obama. undoubtedly. the willingness to stand back when authoritarian regimes either internally or in their neighborhoods are very, very aggressive in ways that undermine international order, undermine international interests, the president has repeatedly been willing to stand back and say, we have other interests and i'm just fine with that, that's deeply problematic, we also have to remember, the president's criticism constantly of fake news, also helps give putin some maneuvering room, lavrov's statements are laughable about honoring international law, in light of rauch russia's repeated disregard of international law. and ukraine's territorial integrity. when you get in a world where no one is speaking about facts, and

that becomes acceptable, it allows countries like russia to push those boundaries even further. >> we will be watching at the u.n., it's great to hear nikki haley's speech, but russia has a veto on the security council, so there will be no action on the security council. >> remember, nikki haley's almost out the door as well. she has i think in many instances, been a critical voice of measured thoughtfulness at the u.s., she'll be leaving that post, and we still have no idea who's going to take her chair. >> that is one of the things that's pending. michael, great to see you. >> great to see you. >> and coming up, lockup, former trump campaign adviser george papadopoulos reports to prison today. all the latest on the mueller investigation right here. i just got my ancestrydna results:

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today. jerome korscy tells nbc news he's been offered a plea deal on one count of perjury by the mueller team. he says he's refused it. joining me now, former assistant u.s. attorney msnbc justice and security analyst matt miller. first to you. papadopoulos, no great surprise that he did not get any relief from going to jail. what do we expect now recording coursy, stone and future indictments. >> it's a good question, we're all sort of on the edge of our seats, there were some signs over the past week or two that mueller might be doing something, today is the day he promised the court in manafort's case that he would report something about the status of

manafort's cooperation, he could say to the court you know, he's ready for sentencing and we hear nothing else or it could be that some charges come down today or something that allows mueller to report more fully to the judge in manafort's case about what exactly the status is of his cooperation. we're hearing that coursy isn't going to take this plea. my guess is, there was a deadline for it, and if he's rejected the plea, mueller will go ahead, maybe that was something he was waiting for as well. and i think it's interesting the idea of a perjury charge, because some of the reporting said that the perjury was specifically about corsi's lie that he did not know in advance that wikileaks was going to release the e-mails. it's not so much a perjury charge, it's the facts that underlie it, that sort of tell us a little bit about muellers, the depth of mueller's evidence. >> if it were proved and he has the evidence. this would be the first sign of

literally collusion between a trump associate and wikileaks. that that is it what that perjury would -- perjury charge would imply, assuming there is hard evidence and we're taking it several steps down the road, he's not been indicted yet. in reading the tea leaves about what robert mueller might be doing, will there be a public filing today to that court, to the judge in the manafort case? would that be sealed. >> there will be a filing of some sort that will be public, mueller has come back and asked for this extension. it may be that he comes back and asks for another delay. if he was planning some kind of an indictment to come down before today, and that didn't happen, you may see him go back and ask for another delay. or that this was completely disconnected and he's ready to come back with whatever report

he was planning today. i will say one thing about jerome corsi, and this plea negotiation that appears to have broken down. bob mueller is 6 for 6 -- getting not just indictments, but guilty pleas and cooperation. it took an indictment and for all of jerome corsi's talk, the number of people cooperating with bob mueller is not so great so far. >> to mimi, what were the tea leaves that led people to believe mueller was close to an indictment coming down against somebody? >> i think it was in large part this letter they sent 10 days ago, to the judge in the manafort case that judge in particular, is not one who's just going to allow again railities of, we need 30 days more, some judges would allow that to report on the cooperator's status, they had to

be specific and say, we need ten days and then we'll be able to tell you more. it was that, it was corsi and stone saying, i'm going to be indicted. and corsi going silent all of a sudden. reading those tea leaves, it sounds like he was likely presented with evidence by mueller, he said, look, this is what i've got. this is some of what we've got at least, either you should get on board now or you will be charged. it does seem like there should be something coming soon, but it is tea leaves. >> let me also ask you about the thanksgiving day subpoenas from members of the republican house committee james comey. let's talk about whether this is just a stunt given how short their tenure is, before the democrats take over in january. >> the majority has spent two

years trying to disrupt the lawful execution of indictments to russia. and has turned a blind eye to any of the lawlessness we've seen inside the administration, now you see them in the final days before the majority runs out. hoping comey and lynch would come in and testify he's said he's not going to do that, he's going to fight this in court. usually did a witness were to fight this subpoena, they would lose. because you have this clock running out on january 4th, i don't think you'll see the subpoena enforced before then. i can't imagine they need to hear anything more from jim comey or loretta leverage about what happened in 2016. >> thanks so much. >> and coming up, mississippi mud, the racial overtones in the senate runoff as the president heads there today. you're watching andrea mitchell reports on msnbc.

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ailing gop senator thad cochran is refusing to answer questions about her support for the confederacy. just watch nbc's von hilliard trying to get her to respond. >> why not speak about the issue. >> these are really interests -- >> there's a lot of people we talked to across this state who are concerned about your remarks. why not speak to this issue. your comments offended a great number of people. >> i have -- >> no, you haven't. i'm wondering, what is it you're apologizing for. >> senator, how -- >> the brooks academy. >> you shouldn't cited jefferson davis, you said this is mississippi history at its best. senator, what did you mean by that. standing inside of jefferson davis's house. >> a third of your electorate -- >> we're planning great, thanks for being here.

>> senator of the united states -- you're running to be the u.s. senator, why not talk about race. >> well, joining me now, michael steele, former chair of the republican party, and jonathan capehart. i should point out i've been in touch with von all weekend, he's been chasing her all over the state. >> he has. >> either she gets on a bus or in some other vehicle, doesn't answer any questions. and so he was upping his -- you know, his chase as is completely appropriate. >> does she think this stops once she gets to washington. >> does she believe that someone like a pulitzer prize journalist like jonathan capehart is going to say, okay, you're here, we're going to ignore your stand on race. they think they can get elected

and there are going to be no ramifications on it. >> you have people from the state of mississippi that are trying to deal with their past as they move into the future, having this recounted to play to the lesser interests, if you will, so it doesn't go away, it doesn't go away, and the president's coming in, he's going to hype it up tonight. >> mike pence is there now. >> and nothing changes, except the questions, the questions will still be there. >> the washington post did stellar work digging into her past. it wasn't just what she claimed was a joke, which was taken as being racially motivated. lynching is hardly a joke. not only did she attend one of those special racially created academies, but sent her own daughter in -- to one of those

similarly situated academies. she had senate bill 2604, to rename a stretch of highway to the title it had in the '30s, that bill died in committee. i think that was when she was in the state senate, this is not a new issue with her. >> no, it's not a new issue, i want to give the highest compliment i possibly can to our colleague for staying on this. nor asking her questions that are not hyperpollic they are not sensational, they are questions that require answers, and that are based on the facts. you have a senator who is asking people in the entire state to re-elect her. she will not answer questions about the segregated schools she sent her daughter to, and talk about the public hanging comment

without reading from what is basically a hostage note. i listen to senator hide smith, and i can't help but think of another southerner, the former mayor of new orleans, and that is how die ya metrically opposed they are in terms of talking about the history of the south, the history of race in the south and racism, she runs away from it, she's trying to pretent like we can't see her past, can't see how she won't deal with it in the present. mitch landrieu is saying, we have a problem, we have to talk about it, this is a bad thing for our state, in that case, louisiana, but mississippi. mississippi has to understand, 2018 is a whole lot different now, and even mississippi could feel the economic ramifications of sending a cindy hyde smith back to the senate. >> look at nikki haley, look at what she did in south carolina over the confederate issue, when she was governor. you're a former republican

national chairman. there are big implications for the party. what is your analysis given the fact that a conservative republican gained 16% of the vote in a three way plus race. she, got 41%. mike espy, african-american, former cabinet member got 40.something percent of the vote. is her bet that this helps her? >> oh, absolutely. >> the chris mcdaniel vote. >> that vote goes to her, in a head to head race. that is not a mike epcy vote by any stretch of the imagination. so yeah, it is to tell those voters this is a safe harbor to come to, i'm okay, and so that's the problem. just because you put this stuff out here in a campaign atmosphere, these folks think when they get back to washington, that it all go away, it doesn't. for the party, it's a bigger problem, because it sends out

the message that we approve of, we agree with, and then it becomes harder when you hear people say, yes, we need to go out and get the black vote, really, how do you start that conversation. what words do you use when their words are the ones that are ringing in the ears of those voters. >> i would caution people about what we might expect at the two rallies tonight. because that rhetoric could be more than dog whistles, we'll wait and see how the president of the united states handles a racially charged senate race. thank you both so much. great to see you. there's a big change in the auto industry, impacting thousands of american workers. general motors announcing a shift in strategy, including a major cut in north american production. a reduced -- a reduction in the salaried workforce of 15%. nearly 15,000 factory and white collar jobs. gm's ceo says the company will

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the white house is under fire for trying to bury a congressionally mandated climate change report over the weekend. issuing on the holiday when people were not paying attention. this report issues dire warnings about the staggering long term economic and health impact of climate change. including predictions that rising temperatures here in the u.s. could lead to an increase in heat related deaths. less food production as harvests decline, and daily high tide flooding in the southeast, while mountain snow packs shrink, affecting water supplies. the report began under the obama administration, and is largely based on the most extreme scenario, scientists involved say the administration did not try to sensor their findings.

joining me now is gina mccarthy. what are the stark warnings here, and explain to us how this is congressionally mandated to come out every four years. andr that's been coming out every four years or periodically for decades. and basically it's done by a series of scientific agencies across the federal government. it consults within, works with scientists that are experts in these fields and the private and other academic settings. an it's an important opportunity for us to not just look at the climate science but to understand what it means in the united states of america. and the findings of this report are very clear, no matter what washington, d.c. wants to say here. it shows that the climate change is real, it is happening today. we can see it and feel it. and it tells us that it's really all about the burning of fossil fuels that we have to worry

about. we have to take some action to reduce that and it also tells us that it is right now a clear and present danger to our health and our long-term economic well-being so i think it's an important reminder it is not about the health of the planet but our own health, it is about what is happening today in the u.s. and great examples of the change we see already and what it can mean in each region in the country an it is an important reminder and important opportunity i think for us to gather together to stop denying the science to look at when's happening in the real world today and start making investments in adaptation, reducing that fossil fuel pollution that is fueling climate change. that should be the important message. it's a rallying cry and we can do this. we can make our children's future brighter. we can make our health today better. if we start taking action.

>> kudos to the scientists and epa and elsewhere throughout the government who ignored what they're hearing from the top. this is what the president had to say about the california wildfires in the north. >> we're all committed. i'm committed the make sure that we get all of this cleaned out and protected. got to take care of the floors. the floors of the forest, very important. you look at other countries where they do it differently and it's a whole different story. i was with the president of finland and he said we have a much different -- we are a forest nation. he called it a forest nation an they spend a lot of time raking and cleaning. >> and completely false. the president of finland never said such a thing and that response to wildfires and the denial of climate. how's this affecting epa and other agencies that have to deal

with these issues? >> well, i think it's discouraging to see a leader in the united states who doesn't seem to understand or want to talk to about real facts here but the simple fact is the united states and many cities and states, many of our business community are working together. they see the science. they understand what's happening. and they're trying to do their best to take action even without federal leadership here. so the agencies are discouraged and doing the science. they're telling us what the facts are and they're relying on individuals here in the united states who care about their own health and their kids' future to stand up and demand new political leadership that's really going to be looking at science and making evidence-based decisions. and i think you saw some of that in the midterm election. so as much as it's discouraging to hear the president speak like that, the agencies are doing their jobs and now we have to do our jobs as people in this

country to really address a threat that is not just a threat to our health but a threat to our economic future here. our viability as a country. not just a health of the planet but the health of our kids and if we take action together, if we listen to the science, i think we can make some progress moving forward and i think we'll have political leadership that's actually going to have to be responsive to the needs of the public and our health moving forward. >> thank you so much. thank you. this just in. a troubling note from our affiliate in jackson, mississippi. wlbt. two nooses and several hate signs found hanging at the mississippi state capitol this morning around 7:15. the police took the nooses down and signs down. they're investing. we'll be right back.

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consumers are trying to take bite out of the apple. the app store making it to the supreme court for oral arguments today. pete williams was there and joins me now from the court. pete, what's at stake here for apple potentially? >> reporter: andrea, there's one place you can buy an app if you're an iphone customer and that's from apple's own app store. consumers are suing. they want a class action saying that's a monopoly and consumers end up paying more for apps than

if there's an open market and competition. apple says, no, it's actually created a thriving app industry that there are thousands available, true apple says it charges a 30% commission saying the prices for apps are set by the app developers so the question here today for the supreme court is, can the consumers go ahead with their lawsuit? and it did seem the majority of the supreme court is going to answer that question yes. what's at stake for apple is if this trial finds that it's a monopoly it could force apple to open the app store and it made something like $11 billion last year on the app store. other software developers say if apple loses ultimately whether there's a trial on this that it could upset other markets for apps that are online so there's a lot riding on this and the average cost of an app is 99 cents. >> thanks so much, pete. i know you will be all over this.

fascinating case and that does it for today. ali velshi and stephanie ruhle for "velshi & ruhle" coming on board. >> all right. >> hi, guys. >> have a great amp. thank you. good afternoon. i'm ali velshi. >> i'm stephanie ruhle. let's get smarter. >> gm is telling the associated press to slash more than 14,000 jobs. gm could close up to five factories. >> you are looking at plants where they primarily build sedans, small cars that are not selling anymore. >> hundreds of central america migrants rushed the border trying to climb the fence and the officers fired teargas to push them back. >> the agents were being assaulted. large group rushed the area and they were throwing rocks and bottles at my men and women. >> they were chanting, waving a honduran flag and throwing rocks. >> they did breach a wall on the mexican side to get