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good day, everyone. i'm alex witt here at msnbc headquarters in new york. the president is back in washington from the g20 summit in argentina. his final act there, a trade truce with chinese president xi jinping. and new this hour, james comey is dropping his legal challenge against house republicans, the former fbi director agreeing to testify behind closed doors this friday about hillary clinton's e-mails. comey tweeting he'll be free to talk about his testimony and that a transcript will be released within 24 hours. also developing this hour, former trump campaign adviser roger stone denies being the facilitator of the russian collusion in the trump campaign. also saying he was not the bridge between donald trump and wikileaks. >> there is no circumstance in which i would testify against the president because i would have to bear false witness against him, i would have to make things up, and i'm not going to do that. i've had no discussion regarding
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a pardon. >> democrats are also questioning whether the president has been compromised by russia. this after a bombshell revelation. trump's long-time lawyer and fixer michael cohen pleading guilty on thursday to lying to congress. he specifically lied about his efforts to secure a real estate deal in moscow for the trump organization. the intel chairman of the house intelligence committee adam schiff refuting the president for his business dealings being very cool and illegal. >> there is no way to describe that as cool or ethical or in the national interests. it means that the president, whether he won or lost, was hoping to make money from russia, was seeking at the same time to enlist the support of the kremlin to make that money. the spokesman for the kremlin intervened to help donald trump and his business in the cover-up. that is so deeply compromising. >> and we have some new insight today into cohen's correspondence with russian
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officials over the efforts for that trump tower in moscow. with me now, keir simmons in argentina. you spoke with the president's right-hand man who said he exchanged words with cohen over the deal. what did he say? >> reporter: what you're about to hear is from dmitri peskov who is the spokesperson for president putin, who is with putin at every event. when i see putin, mr. peskov will be close by. keep in mind when you listen that we already had those charges against michael cohen in a u.s. court that laid out the allegations that he pled guilty to, that there were e-mail exchanges and telephone calls with the kremlin, with mr. peskov's office. what mr. peskov says, there were two e-mails and a phone call. that exactly mirrors those court
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documents. of course, he wouldn't be able to see those court documents. what he said was the communication just disappeared on the trump side, if you like. take a listen. >> you obviously realize that this was coming from the office of a candidate for the american presidency. >> every week dozens and dozens of foreign businessmen are approaching us, mentioning possible investments, searching for contacts. >> reporter: but this is different, this is from the lawyer. >> for us it's not different. >> reporter: this is from the lawyer to the future president trump. >> this is different. for you it is future president trump, for us it's one of the applicants. i mean, you have to understand that. you have to understand that. we have an open e-mail address that is public, and dozens and dozens of applications are coming every week from
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businessm businessmen, from, well, whatever. people from all over the world. >> reporter: so there you go, alex. dmitri peskov wants us to believe this was just another approach from a businessman who happened to be connected to the trump organization, to then-candidate trump in early 2016, and it didn't go very far. >> all right. well, this was significant reporting from yesterday. keir simmons, thank you for bringing that to us. we should note that nbc news has also reached out to trump's attorneys for comments, but on thursday his former attorney did call him a lawyer. john, to you first. your takeaway from keir's reporting there and his meeting with dmitri peskov who says, look, we get applications from people all around the world. but it cannot be lost on the
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russians with the person who they may be making a deal. this is a man running fort preside -- for the presidency of the united states, but even if you lost that, he's a very powerful businessman with considerable influence now. >> reporter: personally, alex, i would not trust dmitri peskov to tell me what time it was, so i will not take his word seriously at all. someone in a business deal who is on track to become the republican presidential nominee and then ultimately become president is not in the same category as the dozens and dozens of pro forma business requests that they get all the time. we've seen that the russians were lying in tandem with the lies from michael cohen as he acknowledged late last week, and those lies have become clear since then represented leverage over president trump. we're going to find out over the next few weeks from robert
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mueller exactly whether that leverage was put to use. on tuesday we are due to get a sentencing memorandum about michael flynn who has pled guilty to lying about conversations with sanctions. could shows sanctions have been connected to the business deal, the trump tower business deal that michael cohen and felix sater were pursuing. mueller knows, we don't. we'll wait until he lays his cards on the table. >> and you said the trump legal team was trying to distance themselves from that deal in moscow. what do you know about that? >> that's right, rudy giuliani said last week this was more of a michael cohen deal than a president trump deal, that cohen was trying to drive it forward and trump was not as involved as cohen's words might otherwise suggest. in other words, this was the
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trump team recognizing that the news of the trump tower might be potentially damaging to trump and trying to insulate him from that. what's more, felix sater, who was russian born and worked with michael cohen on setting up the moscow project told me last week also that the reason the project fell through was because trump himself became the republican nominee. in other words, trump's financial future was inextricably linked to the moscow project. one other detail about dmitri petkov, it's important to remember, is that he explicitly lied about this moscow project. i think it was about a year ago that he told reporters he did receive inquiries from the trump organization related to a potential moscow but that he left those questions unanswered. now fast-forward to the g20 and we know that peskov is giving a different story. instead he's saying he did respond to those inquiries and
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it went back and forth. this is just another example of a kremlin official lying, it appears, to protect the presidency of the united states. >> a timing thing here, it was also one of the questions asked by mueller. it was answered by trump in the written responses. are the president's legal team receiving coughs about thenfider response, because mueller is saying he lied about the timeline, so it doesn't sync up. >> we wouldn't expect them to indicate anything else, but the reality is that the relationship between the president's legal team and michael cohen's legal team is somewhere between frayed and nonexistent. going back months and months, trump has told people privately that michael cohen is dead to him. which would indicate that it's unlikely rudy giuliani and the president's other early lawyers got a peek into the statements
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trump was going to make, so it's quite unlikely that trump was able to coincide the statements that michael cohen made. >> this is a major subject from the mueller probe and it's all in the documents from a plea and a document from jerome corsi. what do you see as being the greatest potential peril for the president? >> first of all, just to betsy's point about the confidence of the legal team, i'm reminded that their confidence of the mueller investigation would be over about a year ago. of course, it's not over and it's getting graver by the day. look, i think the danger is that robert mueller, by following a chain of these sort of eccentric characters close to trump who, after all, had sort of a ragtag collection of people operating his presidential campaign, that
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he shows a chain of events which was beautiful to obtain information from wikileaks and use. and that in tandem with the president talking about relieving sanctions on russia, which as i indicated before and our colleague rachel maddow has tied these pieces together, the potential that lifting of sanctions was something that was a precursor to getting a very profitable deal for donald trump in moscow. and so if you're able to give a purpo purpose, that comes down to russia seeking policy and not to
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mention the $50 million apartment to line the pockets of putin. we'll learn more about the mike flynn memo this week. we'll learn more when we get a paul manafort filing from the mueller team at the end of this week, listing the lies that paul manafort told that caused them to break their cooperation agreement with him. >> betsy, can i just ask you how significant jerome corsi is to the mueller probe? he said he's turned down any kind of plea deal. >> what i would say about jerome cor corsi. just because he says he's been in plea talks with mueller's team, and he says he is bravely and heroically.
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that does not mean what he's saying is true. >> you are so cynical of that, betsy. >> i know. trust me, i think this is fairly we well. for corsi, his filings were filed in court under penalty of perjury and filings that were introduced in court. until we get to documents where lying would be punished by the criminal justice system, color me skeptical about everything jerome corsi says. >> come back to the show any time soon. we sort through the biggest and baddest lies with roger stone, next. listing ten women leaders who clearly outline the
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wikileaks. >> have you had any contact with robert mueller or his prosecutors? >> we have not. none at all. that's correct. >> doesn't that suggest to you that you actually are a target? usually they speak with the witnesses first. >> it suggests nothing at all. again, where is the crime? i've always made it clear that so-called dirty tricks come up to but do not cross the line into illegality. >> now, this comes as the "washington post" reports the president made late night calls to stone from a blocked number. joining me, two former federal prosecutors glen kirschner and ben cummings. ben is the author of "constitution demands: the impeachment of the president." glen, we' glen, we'll talk about the "washington post" in a second. what do you say about roger stone this morning?
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>> he is so self-contradictory that i don't think we can credit anything he says. we have to wait to see what bob mueller has and what he reveals to the public. i think roger stone is now in a similar posture to jerome corsi. i suspect he will be indicted very soon. mabel come on board as a cooperating witness, maybe he won't, but we have seen play out over the course of the investigation the different ways that bob mueller and prosecutors generally can bring a corroborating witness on board. one is a pre-indictment plea offer. that's what jerome corsi was offered. that's a way for aspiring cooperating witnesses to cut their exposure, plead guilty early and begin to cooperate. however, jerome corsi, as we know, has said, i'll die in prison. i'm not pleading guilty. well, alex, let's see if he changes his tune once that window closes, and now he will be looking at a post-indictment plea offer. maybe he'll plead guilty, maybe he won't, but the third option is the post trial plea offer,
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and that's what we saw manafort avail himself of. if corsi and stone want to go that route, i suspect bob mueller will be happy to accommodate them. >> what are your thoughts, ben, on what we heard roger stone say? >> good morning, alex. i would certainly agree with glen that i would not put credence in anything roger stone says. he has a documented history of a liar. he has his own self-proclaimed motto which is deny, deny, deny. that's all he's doing is denying. we already have seen evidence that he did serve as a link to the president and wikileaks. i think more on that subject willie moer emerge. on the subject of corsi, he has decided not to plead. it may have been the opposite. he may have been in discussions and it could have been the special counsel who concluded he was not being truthful and that he was covering up crimes and that the special counsel was
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unwilling to go forward with a deal with him. but we do know in a document that was made public by corsi, they do have a lot of evidence linking corsi and stone to this criminal interference in the election. >> but look, let's play what stone said about -- really, he's defending his actions to contact corsi about wikileaks and julian a assange. play it. >> like every politico in america, like every political reporter, i was interested in knowing exactly what they had, but there was no response to that. if i send you an e-mail saying, george, you should rob a bank but you don't rob a bank -- >> but glen, does that hold up? because aren't you guilty by association if you work towards a crime? >> you're not necessarily guilty by association, alex, but you can attempt to commit a crime and that's a crime. every crime on the books has an attempt crime attached to it. so if i attempt to rob a bank
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and i rent a car to use in the bank robbery, i get a gun, i drive to the bank but i see the guards outside and i abandon my plans, guess what? i'm guilty of attempted bank robbery. again, the only thing that roger stone adds to the dialogue is really carbon dioxide. beyond that, there is really no value to anything he says. we have to wait and see what bob mueller has. >> ben, you told the "washington post," quote, that unless mueller has tape recordings of phone calls, what would would prove? so if mueller wants to prove these discussions indeed took place, how does he go about doing that if he does not have tape recordings? >> he does it through witnesses, and i'm not sure whether there were tape recordings, but there w was. but we also know there are
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e-mails. he has used e-mails to devastating effect to have the president secure financing for a tower in russia, all while he and the president were denying it. i think you will see a similar trail of e-mails involving corsi, some of which we've already seen indications of in roger stone. >> good to see you both. thank you, guys. coming up next, extraordinary last moments for george herbert walker bush and the embrace from his family. you're in the business of helping people. we're in the business of helping you. business loans for eligible card members up to fifty thousand dollars, decided in as little as 60 seconds. the powerful backing of american express.
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some of the details? >> hi, alex. we know president bush's remains will be transported on air force one tomorrow from texas to washington, d.c. then on thursday he'll be brought back to be buried near first lady barbara bush. many came out today to pay their respects,kon condolence books. many of them came from texas leaving heartfelt messages. we got a chance to speak to george bush's son outside the family house in houston. let's listen to what he had to say. >> any time anyone would ask my dad, even in a wheelchair, for a picture, he would stop and graciously -- he would treat everybody in houston the same, with the same amount of respect. he loved houston, and i should say i'm personally grateful.
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>> reporter: all five of mr. bush's children were able to say goodbye as well as his 17 grandkids. so, alex, he was really surrounded by those he loved. >> that is a wonderful gift, certainly, for all of them. all right, tammy leitner, thank you for that. new today, democrats settling down on plans to scrutinize president trump's business dealings. here's what congressman eric swalwell, a member of the house intelligence and judiciary committees told me in just the last hour. >> we're not doing this because it's interesting or there's palace intrigue, alex, we're doing it because american foreign policy is being driven by the president's financial interests, whether it's on russia, or as we're seeing in realtime today, saudi arabia. we want to protect the u.s. foreign policy and make sure the president is not putting his transactional interests above u.s. values. >> joining me now, outgoing two-term colorado governor, democrat john hickenlooper. governor, thank you so much for
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joining me, and i'm curious about your thoughts of what eric swalwell said there. do you think the president has trouble with foreign relations when there may be potential conflict of interest from business? >> i certainly believe even the appearance of conflict of interest harms our standing in international relations in the world forum. i think it's important to get that basic information out so that the public can judge and make sure that they believe that there is no conflict. >> what about a president having to deal well a slew of investigations? can he effectively govern under those conditions? >> well, unfortunately, the nature of washington now, there seem to be investigations every day about something different. so he's got to be able to govern amid these investigations. but a certain amount of transparency, i don't think, should be that complicated. i think historically we have almost always gotten complete tax records from our
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presidential candidates and our presidents. and that goes a long way towards, you know, making people feel comfortable that they're not manipulating, you know, the programs of our foreign diplomacy for their own benefit. >> and in the spirit of transparency, sir, how vigorously do you think democrats should pursue these investigations overall? are there certain avenues to you that seem the most fair? >> i think, again, transparency stands at the top of the list. and to see exactly where he does have, let's say, obligations, if he has large loans from russia, that might explain why we're seeing him so wobbly in terms of, you know, protecting these aggressions towards ukraine. >> all right. let's move on to talk about trade with china, and take a listen to what the president told reporters. this was on board air force one after meeting with president xi yesterday. here it is, sir.
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>> it's an incredible deal. it goes down certainly -- if it happens, it goes down as one of the largest deals ever made. it's a deal between the united states and china made by the president and the president. >> from what we know, do you think this sounds like a great deal? there is a truce on fair riffta least for 90 days on agriculture and other products. congress also declaring that fentanyl is a controlled substance. do you see this as a win for president trump? >> certainly we had to do something. i think this is a step forward. you know, agricultural producers all over the united states have been -- just had a terrible several months. at least this gives them some hope that they can move some of their products without having it sit in storage, in many cases soybean producers, for the whole winter. why do we have to go through this incredible process of
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uncertainty? farmers are trying to make their next budget decisions for the next growing decision, uncertain what they'll get for this next crop. that's not how you create a strong economy. >> let's go to the 2020 election. democrats in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina have all talked about you and say that you have a shot. have you made up your mind on what the future holds for you? >> no, we're still working at it. i think the goal here is to try and get a decision by the end of february, maybe the middle of march. but, really, once you do something like this, you can't go halfway. once you really commit yourself, you're going to be working 70 and 80 hours a week. i used to be in the restaurant business, and i know how hard those long weeks are, and to do that for a couple years, you've got to believe and you've got to believe, a, that you're going to make a difference and you can win, and you've got to believe that people -- there will be a certain amount of resonance with what i stand for, what people
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think america needs. >> yeah. and you've got to be willing to do double shifts at least. let's talk about the democratic field. certainly crowded to say the least. but ohio senator brown said today his message will be the one to break through. let's take a listen to that. >> it's not just a message that works in the industrial midwest and states that we need to beat president trump, it's also a message for the x-ray technician in oakland and the construction worker in augusta, maine. it's the respect and dignity of work matters for this country, and both parties, frankly -- neither party has paid enough attention to that. >> what do you, sir, think about that message, and do you have a message that you think, should you run, might be something upon which you would run, a big campaign message for you? >> well, i think if you're going to go out and campaign across this country to be the president, you've got a couple things. one, you've got to explain what
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you stand for and you have to describe the situation the country finds itself in, and how you're going to, by what you stand for, how you're going to move the country forward. certainly what sherrod was talking about there, making sure the dignity of work is respected, and we give people the tools to participate in the emerging economy, at the same time protecting those people transitioning from the old economy, that's crucial. but i think it's also about finding ways of bringing people together that have been bickering and battling almost relentlessly now for the last almost 20 years now. if you go back and really look at it, we've been getting worse and worse in washington. i think that's going to be a big part of any successful message is, how are you going to bring people together? >> all right. well, colorado governor john hickenlooper, we'll be watching with baited breath to see what you decide by february. thank you very much. >> thank you. next, what donald trump's
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calculated decision, not just michael cohen, but donald trump jr. and others, that they could come in and lie and not be prosecuted. i think part of our job is going to be to make sure that we are going to enforce the law. >> congresswoman jackie speier there with a word of warning that those who testified in front of congress in part of the investigations of donald trump. sophia nelson, former house gop council and contribute tore. with a welcome to all three of you. sophia, you're a lawyer. how do you interpret the comments from the congresswoman who are alleging that people should be concerned about the intel committee's plans to comb through their testimonies. what do you think? >> two things first, alex. i want to express my condolences of president bush 41. met him, knew him, great man.
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i think representative speier is setting out the tone that we can expect come january 2019 from the democrats, and i think that they're ramping up to very seriously begin to investigate and do the things that the last congress did not do when all of this came to the fore a couple years ago. i think that michael cohen flipping is a very serious thing when it happened back this spring. but now that he has reversed himself about lying to congress and admitting that there were some contacts with russia to do business, et cetera, i think that the news has tightened around the neck of the trumps and the trump organization, the president, his son, et cetera. and i think that they're gearing up now to handle this in the new congress. >> i want to pick up on that about the trump's agent, because yahoo is reporting that mueller's team is asking questions about the role of ivanka as well as donald trump jr., how they played in michael cohen's efforts to land a trump tower in moscow. how are you reading all of this?
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>> well, i'm reading this, first of all, don't lie to congress. because if you do and you're robert mueller and you're looking at this, he's going to come back after you. secondly, i think sophia is exactly right. congress and the democrats in particular will be exercising their oversight authority, which is desperately needed right now in terms of a check and balance. and we also know this may be exactly why vladimir putin wanted donald trump to be the next president of the united states, because they did have some real estate dealings. so it upsets a whole new can of worms. many more questions presented. i think you'll see donald trump jr., i think you may see ivanka trump as well be caught up in this. i think this also underscores the importance of house democrats to make sure that the mueller investigation is protected. that should be one of their first orders of business when they take over the new congress, and nancy pelosi has made it very clear that she plans to make this one of the first pieces of legislation that hits the floor. >> yeah. sophia and donna, i want to ask you both, sophia, you'll go
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first, about the defense of michael cohen. they sound a lot like donald trump's own defense. >> i'm not surprised he was doing international business. cohen is in trouble for lying to congress, not anything related to the campaign or russian influence. >> is that a fair argument, so fear fee a? have you surprised given the president said he had nothing to do with russia? >> what i am surprised is a senator echoing those sentiments which is inappropriate and something that in his oversight of the senate shouldn't be echoing these types of things. we should be looking at the bottom line to get to the truth and figuring out who is telling the truth and who is not, and i think that's what has to happen. >> what do you think, don? what do you make of the senator from wyoming there arguing that the president is being a businessman. he's just trying to do international business. is that a fair argument? >> it's not a fair argument.
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if you look at where the trump properties are, there is no trump hotel in london, there is no trump hotel in paris or berlin. why? because he doesn't do business in places where there are legitimate dmom raeemocracies a legitimate processes. in these places where he's able to deal with strong men who don't necessarily deal on board. that is a glorified branding agency which we know to be the trump organization. there is no special sauce there. let's go deal in places where we have illegitimate puntas of regimes, and let's deal in a very under the board way. that has certainly pervaded the trump organization and now we know it. we're starting to see pieces of evidence. we also know that donald trump rules his organization with a very tight fist, so there is no reasonable argument among thinking adults to think he hasn't had contact with russia
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or intimate knowledge of his top executives' contact with russia. the walls are closing in, it's just a matter of time until we see it laid out on the table. >> i want to get to a question we've seen raised by representative jerry nadler. he just spoke about this today. let's take a listen. >> the fact that he was lying to the american people about doing business in russia and that the kremlin knew he was lying gave the kremlin a hold over him. one question we have now is does the kremlin still have a hold over him? >> you don't think that the kremlin has a hold over donald trump? i mean, do you agree with what jerry nadler was saying there, something that has to be at least looked at? >> sure. we don't know, but the big part of the reason we don't know is that we have never seen his tax returns. it was an issue from the beginning of the campaign. he still has held out. he used the excuse once that he was under audit but we know the president consistently lies and has no relationship with the
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truth. his tax returns would be substantial evidence which could actually exonerate him to show him, no, the kremlin does not have a hold on him. and are we talking about the putin administration or are we talking about the entire universe of financial institutions tied to russia which probably have very, very substantial ties with the trump organization and ultimately the money is what this president responds to. i would bet a substantial amount of my kids' college fund that there are absolutely financial ties between the trump organization and russia which we're using as the kremlin. it's not something we could reasonably doubt at this point. >> you want to say something, sophia? >> i think president trump, if i could be my most fair, objective person to him at this moment, i think he subscribes to the gordon gecko philosophy of life. greed is good. and i think in order to build a new empire, ethics go out the window, which again brings us to
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someone like president 41 who was a moral, humble, good man who didn't operate like this in any way. we're dealing with a president who is very different. i don't think he really expected to win, i've said this before, and they were trying to use anything they could, being the nominee, to cut deals. then he ended up becoming president and it became problematic. i don't think they were bright enough to do some deal with russia to undercut the elections, et cetera, et cetera, intentionally. i just don't see it. >> president trump, as a businessman, has been known to want to bring business to russia. there's been like three decades of him trying to work and get something done in russia. how does that fit into the investigation big picturewise of where these investigations may be going. you can make a case either way
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given this knowledge. >> working with russia over three decades is a totally different ball game when you're the candidate of the president of the united states and then you are the president of the united states. to a point don made earlier, we don't know exactly what putin may hold over trump with his finances because we've never seen his tax return. what we do know is that the president of the united states should not be held to a foreign, adversarial government based on financial dealings, and that is what i think house democrats and the mueller investigation is going to continue working on. is there a quid pro quo that putin has on trump? is there some sort of deal that he's holding over trump's head in terms of the foreign policy decision and that's what we have to get to the bottom of. >> as much as we criticize john brasso, we have to get to john
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seems china and the u.s. have reached a truce in their trade war. the president agreed not to raise tariffs on clie chinese g. gord gordon, your take on this agreement and how significant it is and how sturdy it is. >> it's not really sturdy because we have differences with the chinese. he gave beijing they will continue u.s. intellectual property. that could be to the tune of 80, $90 billion. it's a big number. the chinese economy is tfragile. we're helping them get through a winter. this is a period when the big
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box stores permit production. a lot of manufacturers will stay in china if they think president trump will come to a deal which it looks like that way. >> the manufacturing there, intellectual property, massive issue. is that substantial there and how likely again. when i ask the sturdy question, how likely do you think china is to stick to this deal? >> we had the 100-day action plan last april. that didn't last 100 days. yeah they might buy more stuff and that's good but that's not what we're kerned about. fu future of the american economy is not soybeans. it's american tech. if we can't commercialized that we don't have an economy.
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>> what would you say to the president in terms of this trade war to the u.s. benefit? >> i'd say on march 2nd that he impose those 25% tariffs and tariff the rest of the chinese products until beijing stops stealing our stuff. stop committing trade vi violations, stop holding american companies hostage in china. we don't need empty promises. we need action. >> this conversation was entirely depressing. i'm just kidding. always good to talk with you. thank you for giving that to us. how is saturday night live paying tribute to the president who made dana carvey a household name? take your razor, yup. alright, up and down, never side to side, shaquem. you got it? come on, get back. quem, you a second behind your brother, stay focused. can't nobody beat you, can't nobody beat you. hard work baby, it gonna pay off.
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we have hit the top of the hour. i'm all done for the day. >> she's out of here for the weekend. thank you. good afternoon to all of you. coming up this hour for you, the russia connection. some new details emerging about communications between former trump lawyer, michael cohen and the kremlin. this comes on the heels of his surprising ae ining admissi lying to congress about a trump tower in moscow.
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