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and that wraps it up for me right here on msnbc at this hour. richard lui, let me know what you think. i'll let you know what i think. i will turn it over to reverend al sharpton and "politics nation." . good evening, welcome to "politics nation." another white house shakeup as we learn from today that president trump and his embattled chief of staff john kelly will exit his position at the end of the year. all this comes a day after a barack u dramatic break in the russia investigation, where we now have a better idea of what special counsel bobble mueller is interested in and what might
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be covered up as dual filings and investigations into the president's personal lawyer michael cohen suggest even greater efforts from russian nationals to forge ties with the pre white house trump. of course, the president continued with his twitter tirades against the investigation this morning taking shots at mueller and his team. the question is, as we approach the new year, how close are we to hearing the final conclusions of the russia probe? we have a great panel. and we are welcoming attorney and now nbc legal analyst daniel goldman, former deputy secretary of labor under obama and lawyer by training chris liu, republican strategist sir michael singleton and co-founder and editor-in-chief of the "beat
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d.c." tiffany cross. first two breaking news from the testimony of former fbi head james comey, let's go to nbc's mike mamoli. mike. . >> yesterday i was on the hill and former director comey spent seven hours. some of the initial headlines now we've gotten a 235-page transcript just in the last hour. smx i think you will be interested in, one headline, james comey said he grew concerned in october of 2016, just weeks to before the election based on comments from trump surrogate rudy guiliani and others that there were leaks coming from the new york field office of the fbi. comey told lawmakers that he launched an internal investigation of those leaks but that he was fired, of course, by president trump next spring before he had a chance to see how that was resolved. >> this was october of '16 that he got these reports in. >> that's right. you will remember when rudy
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guiliani was acting as a trump campaign surrogate, he was speaking on fox news before we knew that the fbi had reopened the investigation of clinton's e-mails, rudy was perhaps cryptically hinting this may come. he grew concern that this was based on leaks from the field office, it was not resolved by the time he was fired. >> i understand in the transcript, hillary clinton was mentioned 116 times, russia 120-something times. putin not mentioned one time in six-and-a-half hours of questioning of comey. >> there were three i think buckets of information that we will be looking for as we continue to read through the transcript. there is the clinton e-mail bucket. we heard comey, himself, frustrated, that's what he had to spend multiple times. there are questions about the or begins of the investigation. did the fbi perhaps move on trump campaign surrogates before
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they had publicly disclosed? remember the dust-up among republicans about the steele dossier. the last thing 23 will be looking at is questions that lawmakers may have poised pose to comey at large. he said he would bet his life that special counsel robert mueller is acting with integrity. he also may have to return, of course to before these congressional committees, not just in a week when we know he will come back. but when democrats regain control of congress based on information they may have on president trump about acting leniently in the michael flynn case. >> well, we'll say untustay -- tuned. we will hear from you in the coming weeks i'm for sure. let me go to my panel, let me put aside the comey the president announced today that
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his chief of staff john kelly will be finished by the end of the month. what does this say about a further shakeup. what does this say about the president saying in two or three days maybe he'll announce a replacement. in the middle of all of this russian investigation, news breaking yesterday around michael cohen as well as manafort in all of this, we're going to have a new chief of staff? >> right. it's not unusual, of course, as you know, for a president after an election to maybe shake up cabinets. what's interesting. >> that he's shake it up while shaking up the white house? this is two appointments made yesterday and now on the day right after some very damming set of court filings, he will
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replace john kelly. that was leaked. that was coming yesterday. it seems a little bit like the president two is a master at this is trying to distract what came out yesterday which is at least prosecutors in new york seem to believe the president created a trial in port in getting elected to president. >> that is a bomb chel e shell revelation. it's not surprising right now on the morning the day after that, he is saying his chief of staff will lead. >> you look at he's trying to put their focus of attention somewhere else. but what does this do to republicans when you have this kind of shakeup in the middle of everyone responding to the southern district of new york saying that the president was, in fact, committing a crime in. >> well, i think, reverend
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sharptop, the administration has likely taken a two-prong strategy here. will you have the president's attorneys addressing this in one arena, now i'm heard you heard nick ayers may become the chief of staff. i don't know nick personally. he is well regarded and respected in republican circles as a political operative. so that shows me at least some thought process in the administration is they're looking that politically through a political lens, particularly with democrats taking back control of the house and with 2020 elections quickly approaching. >> let me ask you, tiffany, i have learned from reading "the beat dc, that the republicans now have the disadvantage in the terms of the map in 2020. a lot of focus on the presidential race, but the senate race is a little more threatening to republicans in 2020. so will they now start reacting
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differently to the president because they have some, some flesh in the game as we would say politically coming up in 2020 that may make them very cautious and careful of how they deal with all of these shakeups and the changing of the guard in the white house? >> well, if evidence of the past two years, my answer would be no, when there is a movie, i this i this chapter of donald trump's presidency will be discovered by martin scorcese. when you look at the senate and what they will do. what robert mueller's investigation has showed was the president was absolutely colluding with russia. not only was he in touch with russian businessmen, he was dealing with the kremlin, himself, he tried to bribe putin with a penthouse.
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we seen they have evidence of saudis murdering a journalist. there hasn't been a lot of movement there. mike lee out of utah blocked a bill to protect special counsel mueller. i'm not putting credence into holding this president for account. they have sat by while this president has eroded core democratic discussions while he's obliterated our standing, been an apology gist and echo for a white supremacist. if we look for republicans in the public to save us. i would advise we look elsewhere. >> you worked in the justice department at the highest level. you where i in now women barr who is expect -- william barr, who is expected to be the attorney general. when have you the southern district of new york charged of a crime and collusion being a part of the real, as tiffany
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cross said, the reality of what has come out now. how does barr come in and deal with this in a way that does not further harm the perception of the integrity of the justice department? >> mr. barr is one of the more experienced people that the president could have chosen to be attorney general. but there are some serious questions that need to be asked him at his confirmation hearing. now, web he was first confirmed back in 1991, he talked about the independence of the justice department. since then, he's frankly sounded a lot more trumpian. he's suggested that the president could investigate his political enemies, including hillary clinton. he's been dismissive of the allegations against the president and so these are issues that will have to come before the u.s. senate and it does speak more broadly to the need to the mueller investigation. senator flake is holding up until he gets a vote on that legislation. but the other big part about
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this is that in some ways the mueller investigation is too far flung right now. it's gone too deep. there are too many people about to be sentenced. more people are about to be indicted. it would be incredibly difficult at this point for the president to shut down this investigation, particularly with house democrats about to take over within the next four weeks. if this thing is shut down, that investigation would simply move to the house. >> what do you see, daniel goldman, in the coming weeks in terms of the mueller investigation? do you think we're near the end? do you think what we saw yesterday means this is going to be a longer process? and if it goes too long, will it be stopped, if we get into later spring of '19 that we will run into the risk of them saying we don't want to interfere with the 2020 election. which givers up mid-'19 in.
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>> i think it has what we fail to realize is, although a lot of information came out this week, that is information that robert mueller's team has had for months now. so they have been ramping this investigation very quickly and very effectively i think and very thoroughly. so it's hard to predict where they are in this, other than, we know that there is a lot of information that they have. there is a lot of every day that they have. there is a lot of smoke around roger stone and his associate jerome coursey who released his overdraft agreement. >> right. >> i expect there would be indictments. i imagine robert mueller would like to do it by the end of the year. i think we should expect there is one massive dump of or drop of indictments, whatever it is. he's not going to stagger them is my guess. so i don't think we're going to run into 2020. but i do think this could go into 2019.
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>> sure, michael, tiffany cross says, don't look for the republicans to stand up to donald trump. you are the republican on the panel. will they stand up and prove her wrong or is she right that they are going to go down with the ship if, in fact the ship goes down? >> i mean, i think if you are thinking from the perspective of mitch mcconnell, i think many republicans are saying how can we step away from this president without losing significant support from republican voters. you mentioned on, there will be over a dozen republican senate seats up for re-election in 2020. however, if you look at the most recent mid-terms, republicans lost grounds with suburban white women. i think they have to be very, very careful how long they stay with donald trump. because if they stick with him until the end, until the ship goes down as you alluded, i think republicans could experience massive losses in the senate come 2020. >> all right. the panel is not done yet.
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mueller probe are the latest signals that the trump administration cannot escape the onslaught of investigations and with a new democrat-led congress, should the president also be concerned about the talks of impeachment. joining me now is the share woman of the democratic congressional campaign committee congresswoman sherry boustos of illinois. congresswoman, will the democrats go very hard at an impeachment as they come into power in january? >> well, reverend, thank you for having me on. i think what the democrats there do is go very hard after seeking the truth. that's what we will stand for. that's what 23 will do. i'm a former investigative reporter, as a matter of factk in fact, entered the journalism part of my career about a decade of watergate. you remember those days, the follow the money and that is we
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got to follow the money, most importantly, we got to follow the truth. look, we will have adam schiff the incoming chairman of the intelligence committee. elijah couplings on house oversight. we have jerry nadler, who will be the incoming chairman of the house judiciary committee. they are good men. they are smart men. they will seek the truth. we will see where that leads us. >> there have been many that voted in the mid-terms, they want to see action in many areas. i want to get to north carolina and voter fraud in a moment. >> yes. >> but i want you to say outright, is there going to be a balance where there is a pursuit of the truth of what the president may or may not have done with russia and dealing with issues like health care and voter suppression and criminal
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justice? will there be a balance or a focus on bringing down this president? >> no the focus will be as we entered the election november 6th. a little more than a month ago, that promise we put out there to the american public as we said, election us to be back in the majority, number one, we will bring down the cost of health care, that includes the price of prescription drugs, number two, we will pass a bill, if we do that, a trillion dollar infrastructure package that will add 16 million jobs to our economy. lastly, we promise, this will be rr-1, we promise we will address how washington needs to work for people again, we'll clean up the massive corruption the self dealing, the money in politics, make sure that when americans go to the ballot box that their vote will be cast. i'm glad you want to talk a bit
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about north carolina. i'll leave the question for you on that i think we should talk about that we need the american public to rise up and say every single vote to count. what is happening in north carolina is absolutely unconscionable. >> as we go into north carolina we see wisconsin and michigan where the republicans lost the governorship and attorney general and now the legislators, which are still the legislators that were in office before the election and they're actually trying to change and limit the power of those offices in those states, it was fine with them when there were republicans in charge. all of a sudden now in wisconsin they want to redo and limit the powers of the governor. >> yeah, i mean, so it's wisconsin, it's michigan. those are my make the states, i'm from illinois. this is going on in the
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mid-west. not to mention what happened in georgia and i'm so proud of stacy abrams, a close friend of mine, how she today up and is doing a shoutout how this is not okay. let's look at what is going on in north carolina right now. we have a republican, mark harris, who claims to have won the race for the u.s. house of representatives against a former marine dan mckreeld-- mcyeecree. >> this is in north carolina? >> correct. mark harris hired this guy, who was a convicted felon, going door-to-door, handling the absentee ballots and the allegation is that either the votes were changed on those or they were voting for the democrat, they were getting thrown away and, reverend, they were focusing on elderly african-american people. >> right. >> and robbing them of their vote and so, you know, we've got to get to the bottom of this.
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>> so the atrocity here, i want our viewers to be clear, mark harris, a minister, a republican that someone was going around collecting absentee ballots, door-to-door, which does not happen, by the way. >> correct. >> taking people's ballots and the allegation is he was in some way changing the vote or filling them in or tossing them if they were voting democratic. there is nothing more blatant in terms of voter fraud than doing this. but we haven't heard anything from the president who wanted a voter fraud commission. >> of course not. radio silence out of the white house on this. but look, we've got more than a dozen people on the ground right now from the democratic congressional campaign committee. we have lawyers. we have field experts. we now have people going door-to-door and finding out what happened here. we'll get to the bottom of this. my message to anybody in the 9th congressional district of north carolina is we are there for the
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long haul. we will get to the truth. if anybody's votes were robbed from them, we will correct this and we will make sure their votes were counted even if that gets to having another election against dan mccreedy, the iraq war veteran running against this minister who was alleged to have used this convicted felon to rob people of their votes. we will get to tho the bottom o it. >> i understand there are people saying they are collecting billion lots. there are actually people saying they participated in this. >> that's correct. we have signed affidavits about people who have said that they've collected these absentee ballots in an unethical, in fact, illegal manner. again, it's unconscionable to think that this republican, mark harris and the team that he hired to bring in are robbing
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people after their democratic right and 459s democratic as in large d democratic. this isn't even a partisan matter. it is a matter of making sure someone's vote counts, that people's votes count and that, you know, that we live in this greatest country in the world and democracy matters and we'll make sure we get to the bottom of this and to the truth. >> thank you, congresswoman. up next, i came back from south africa this week with a message for president trump. we'll be right back.
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. and now for my weekly memo to president trump. i spent last weekend in south africa celebrating the life and legacy of my hero nelson mandela. we reflected on his character, his integrity and his leadership. he was the definition of a statesman. in all of the nostalgia, i could not help think about how much better off america would be if our commander-in-chief had even an ounce of his temperament. let me unpack this some more.
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leadership i learned growing up is not just about what you stand for but how you stand. i had to learn you just can't shoot from the hitch. you just can't react in a way that puts a bad reflection on what it is you stand for and those that are depending open you to stand up. and na is what nelson mandela perfected and that is what all of us have to try to grow beyond our flaws, to try and represent. our president tweeting and acting in every impulsive way that he thinks he can, no matter how abrasive is the exact opposite of what true statesmanship is about. we should not just memorialize nelson mandela. we ought to emulate him. and this president can learn a lot from a man who suffered greatly 27 years in jail and came out and forgave his jailers
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william barr to serve as the attorney general of the next attorney general. is there more to this white house shakeup than i can see? back with me former u.s. attorney daniel goldman. former obama official chris liu. republican strategist sir michael singleton and tiffany cross of "the beat d.c. "let me ask you, chris, you were in the obama administration under secretary of labor. you worked in the justice department. the changing of a chief of staff, how much does that really matter and what does it really mean to the direction of a president and his administration? >> in a typical white house, the chief of staff is essentially the person that runs everything, is in charge of the policy process, a lot of politics, making sure that the president's schedule reflects the priorities. the challenge in this white house is that we will now be on the third chief of staff within
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two years. no one has been able to tame this president. john kelly was supposed to be the savior. he was supposed to be putting discipline into the president's schedule, ensuring he wasn't calling people at all hours of the night. >> that apparently lasted a couple months and the president chafed under that and went back to his old habit. and even someone as distinguished as kelly is could not keep this president under control so i suspect the chaos that we have seen, the disruption we have seen over the past two years will continue. it really doesn't matter who the chief of staff is in this white house. donald trump is a lone operator. >> tiffany cross, there are many issues around criminal justice. we have garnered a case in new york. we have what is going on in alabama and robbins illinois, we have voter fraud allegations in north carolina. william barr coming in is something that will be really
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affect whether or not the justice department puts any of these matters, voting rights, police reform, civil rights as a priority. what is your forecast of -- based on his long record on william bars and how he will handle these matters? we even see mcconnell is not even moving forward on the bipartisan next step bill of criminal justice reform or prison reform in. >> well, a, i think that william barr is going to get a smooth confirmation paroles says. he's done the job before. you have a republican control senate. i don't anticipate pushback. this person will not be a friend to criminal justice at all. he penned an op-ed in the '90s. he wanted people to have more prison time so he is not a person that will champion any type of criminal justice reform. just as important, he's not someone that will provide checks
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and balances with this white house. we seen the president all but obstruct justice, he's stopped short of [ inaudible ] we don't have anybody there checking him. so i don'to be a big leak from jeff sessions, who was the attorney general before him. i think the bar has been set so low because matt whitaker was in this position. and this was somebody selling hot tubs on infomercials at 3:00 in the morning. i think the bar was set so low, he's someone that believes in sweeping presidential power, roe v. wade should be overturned. he's not someone a voice of reason. to chris' point, it doesn't matter, this president acts out of chaos and doesn't often put thought process into the decisions he makes. so i'm not sure how his cabinet members are at this point. >> daniel, tiffany says to the
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bar is so low. i guess pun is intended there. what will a barr as attorney general mean, if anything? will he just be someone acting out the will of this president or will he be an independent attorney general based on his record as you know it? because he was attorney general before under the first president bush? >> i think if you are worried about who donald trump is going to put in the attorney general's office because what he did with whitaker in so clearly putting a crony of his in to try to undercut the mueller investigation, i think you have to be breathing a sigh of relief. whatever his policies may be. i think tiffany points to several that are of concern to democrats and progressives. he is an institutionalist. and he believes in the institution of the department of justice. >> but does the president? >> well, the mr. president doesn't appear to. but that's why i think someone like william barr is a life-long
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career, a reputation already who has done the job, he carries some gravitas and i would expect him to push back on any efforts to undermine the department of justice. so in that regard, i think it's a positive appointment from in the grand scheme -- in trump world, where who knows how bad it could have been. >> well the last guy, sir michael that we heard push back a little was told today he's leaving. i mean, can you push back and survive this president? this president seems to be one that does not take kindly to people pushing back. >> right. >> and at some point, if he is anyway he'd be involved anyway like daniel is saying, he will end up having to bump heads with this president and may not be able to with inthat battle. >> yeah. i mean, there is no indication at this point in time nearly two years into this presidency that
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the president does take advice from people who actually do sister an expertise or experience in a certain area. remember rex tillerson comments a day or two ago, where he stated that the president did not listen to his advice. >> he doesn't read. >> he stated the president would frequently attempt or make comments about getting around the law, attempting to do things illegally. i think as daniel pointed out with his past experience being an institutionalist, he will sort of walk to the beat of his own drum. i do think at some point that will create a problem. similar to the problem we saw with jeff sessions, who is no longer there. so i think the president may be hoping based on mr. barr's presidential powers, he will lead in a manner in his favor. i think at the end of the day, reverend sharpton, he will find himself extremely dulles appointed. >> well, at the same time, chris, if he marches to the beat of his own drum the beat he's had before is far from the areas
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of civil rights and criminal justice reform and voter fraud reform and voter suppression that many of us have wanted to see this country move forward on. so he may march to the beat of his own drum, chris, but the tune that he's been beating has not been one that a lot of americans want to see happen, particularly when you have north carolina, wisconsin and what happened in georgia with stacy abra abrams. >> it's exactly right. william barr is an institutionalist. hopefully, he will try to protect the department from a process standpoint, that's important. let's not forget the policies, tiffany talked about some of those policies, but the direction that this administration has taken, whether it's in terms of voter rights, criminal justice, immigration that hard right policies will continue. because that direction is being set by the president. so again, mr. barr is a conservative. he's an institutionalist. but let's not forget how
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conservative his policies are and as you correctly point out, those are out of step with where the people of this country are, where the history of this country is. >> tiffany, do you expect the democrats to really challenge william barr in the confirmation hearings on the areas that we are doesing heiscussing here, t of us are concerned about in. >> i do, actually. you and i discussed only your radio show, this is why it's important for people like camela harris to seep e keep her seat, which is in question now with the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell putting her seat in peril. because you need a formidable prosecutor, particularly win have a president running rough house and scurrying the law every chance he gets. i think you can expect tough questions from camela harris, corey booker, as everydayed by some of the confirmation hearings we seen before.
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the judiciary committee is such an important committee for that point alone. >> thank you for plugging my radio show. thank you, and, of course, my friend sir michael singleton. up next, a call for justice. what connects nelson mandela to a young man killed by police in alabama? and to the 2020 race? we'll be right back. you're headed down the highway when the guy in front slams on his brakes out of nowhere. you do, too, but not in time. hey, no big deal. you've got a good record and liberty mutual won't hold a grudge by raising your rates over one mistake. you hear that, karen? liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges. how mature of them! for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. liberty mutual insurance. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ is important to me so father being diagnosed with advanced non-small cell lung cancer made me think of all the things
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we must turn tragedy into triumph. those words were spoken by renowned civil rights activist the reverend jesse jackson during a recent funeral service in alabama for ej branson zwrr junior who was fatally shot by police as they searched for a shooter inside of an alabama mall thanksgiving night. his heart broken family calls his death unjust and are still demanding answers. the reverend jesse jackson joins me now from chicago. reverend jackson, the mother of bradford and attorney ben crump
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was on this show. you went, stood with the family several days, spoke at the funeral. what does this case mean to you when we hear so much from the nra talking about good guys with guns stop bad guys, clearly, this was a good guy. there was a shooter, he was trying to pursue. he end up being shot by police and killed. >> little girls bar barack and justice, reverend al. he was accused of doing the shooting. in fact, he was shot. he was accused of brandishing a gun because he has a gun, which he has a right to carry. he got it to check it out and he had been shot in the back three times. in the neck, one came out through his eye and another came through his neck and his on the sill. and so he was killed instantly. >> so he was shot from behind, clearly no direct threat to the
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officer and shot three times. so as this case is pursued, they're asking for fairness and justice because it seems like the only thing he was suspected of being is fitting a profiler who this officer felt must have been theshooter? >> indeed. and as a matter of fact, they should review the tape because the longer the tape is with held it looks like a cover up. we came from chicago, 16 shots and it was a cover up. there's no basis of a cover up, the tape, the witnesses, and the attorney has asked for witnesses to come forward. a mayor of birmingham and the mayor of the town where the shooting took place. and they said let the tape come out. >> when this occurred, when the funeral and other services occurred, as you know i was in south africa part of the celebration of nelson mandela. when i was a younger man, you
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and harry bellefonte, randy johnson and others brought to a level the free mandela movement and, in fact, when mandela did get out of jail, you introduced me to nelson mandela and had him take a picture with me and the times i was with him after was based on your introduction. tell the world what nelson mandela meant. you were the first american that he shook hands with when he got out of jail. >> well, he was -- he was a liberated leader. 100 years of a landmark as a liberator. he tried nonviolent demonstration, it was shot down, massacred. they tried the law and the courts were stacked. he became the military journal of the military wing of anc, and finally he was captured before he moved from installations to people, he was there 27 years and he was there without guilt
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and became a moral authority from the jail. he did turn tragedy into triumphed and became the most moral authority of the western world before he was finally released. >> you have mentored many people over your long career as you were mentored by dr. king and mentored others in politics and in civil rights like me. as you look at this country today, through the lens of your mentor, dr. king, through the lens of your friend, nelson mandela, where do you see the moral standing from a global perspective of the world as we head into 2020 and what type of leadership do you hope emerges in the 2020 race? >> it's really at an all-time low. there are thoughs that believe right is might and might is right. you look at the president's attacks on our neighbors in mexico and canada. his attack on the -- his
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behavior at the argentina conference was just despicable. babies on the border as a deterrent to keep their parents from coming searching for freedom. putting the u.s. military to threaten to shoot people coming across the border. we've never known a low this low in our lifetime. and yet america spoke vividly november 6th. and i'm convinced between the speaking of november the 6th and the new congress and the mueller report, which continues to builbuild steam, it's going to alter some of what trump wants to do, because america is great ester its president. >> do you feel we'll be able to see the leadership contrast in the 2020 race? >> you look at people like beto o'rourke in texas and stacy abrams in florida --
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>> georgia. >> and gillum in florida. people like kamala harris and booker. you see a generation to be emerging -- when it's real dark, you see the lights most clearly. lights are coming out of nowhere. and the coalition of women and people of color fighting for gender equality and racial justice excites me very much. when i look at alabama playing georgia in the big football game, i take a lot from that because i remember when wallace said a black couldn't attend alabama. when maddox said no blacks in georgia. now these kids are learning to play ball together, live together. there's a new south emerging in spite of -- trump can turn back the watch, you cannot turn back time. we are not going back. >> we're not going back. >> we're not going back.
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i am a techie dad.n. i believe the best technology should feel effortless. like magic. at comcast, it's my job to develop, apps and tools that simplify your experience. my name is mike, i'm in product development at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. when i returned last tuesday from south africa to new york, right away we were facing the disciplinary hearings of a policeman who was responsible for the death of eric garner in new york for putting him in a
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choke hold that was against police policy and the law. we deal with the case in alabama of this young man shot to death. another young man shot to death who was there to try and stop a shooting in a bar and a hall in robins, illinois. we see, in north carolina, absentee ballots tampered with, voter suppression, people purged from the rolls and polling sites closed in georgia. and whether it's south africa or the united states or whether we see people fighting for the rights of migrants and others to be treated in a humane way, the struggle continues. it is not a 50 yard dash. it is a long struggle. and you don't fight until you get to an end of a period of
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time. you fight until we can continue to achieve what is right and just for everyone of all backgrounds, all religions and all genders, and ways of life. that's what the great people like nelson mandela stood for. we can't just choose to be good. we must aspire to try and be great. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, "the beat" with my friend ari melber. bob mueller revealing michael cohen's crimes, as well as new details on his ties to russia with federal prosecutors in new york dropping the hammer and calling for substantial prison time. let's get right to it, two major court filings out tonight, one from bob mueller who says that michael cohen has been helpful in his russia investigation and, from theserocu
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