not see the official mueller report ever. however, we have been hearing from mueller throughout this entire investigation as he indicts individuals that he has believed to have committed crimes with very detailed indictments. they're nomly documents that are bare bones telling only the amount of information necessary so as not to reveal anything else about an investigation. but mueller has departed from this rule and revealed very, very detailed factual indictments provides lots of information about the kind of work he and his team have done to date. >> let's look at one, roger stone. there are new documents obtained by the atlantic that provide a 2016 email. here's what it said, quote. get to assange and get the wikileaks emails.

so stone's deposition is the first time mueller's team has asked. why is his congressional testimony a concern for mueller. >> there are two main avenues. first, was stone and his co-tore repart of this collusion to commit some kind of computer hacking, but even if he wasn't, did roger stone lie in his multiple testimonies and interviews with congress or elsewhere? and if he did, he's liable for section 1,001, false statements. but going back to the russia and lucky weeks, but even if he was, in order to show conspiracy, you need just a little more information, and directing someone to get wikileaks or get information crosses that barrierle and potentially into

ordering or requesting criminal conduct. >> danny cevallos, thank you for breaking it down for us. a fall broke her ribs, but it may have changed her life. an update on supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg. justice ruth bader ginsburg. quem, you a second behind your brother, stay focused. can't nobody beat you, can't nobody beat you. hard work baby, it gonna pay off. you got this. with the one hundred and forty-first pick, the seattle seahawks select. alright, you got it, shaquem. alright, let me see. - [narrator] meet shark's newest robot vacuum. it powerfully cleans from floors to carpets, even pet hair, with ease, and now for cleaning surfaces above the floor, it comes with a built in shark handheld. one dock, two sharks. the shark ion robot cleaning system.

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new this morning the state of supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg recovering in the hospital following the remarvel of two growths on her left lung. matt, how is she doing, what is the prognosis? certainly lots of thoughts and prayers are going up for her today. >> reporter: good morning, alex. as you mentioned, she's recovering in this hospital behind me, memorial sloan kettering. she's expected to be here for a couple of days. we're hearing from doctors this operation went remarkably well.

of course, this justice is 85 years old. she had a pulmonary lobectomy, that's two nodules from her lung. they're not going recommend any further treatment beyond the surgery yesterday. at the same time, it's very serious. of course, you could always have risks after a surgery of this level. but, remember, justice ginsburg is a survivor. she had colorectal surgery back in 1999. earlier than that, she had surgery for pancreatic surgery. she's known throughout the country for her daily exercise routine. she's become a pop icon in her own right. there's not just one but two

fiance ter-length films, about her life just this year. she's gotten quite a following. and there's going to be a lot of people rooting for her. >> absolutely. let me ask you. they say because she fell and broke her ribs and they did such a careful check of her, that's why they found these miniscule cancerous growths that otherwise they might not have found. it's true that the fall and broken ribs may have seiched her life? >> yeah. it was by accident. you hear about this with a lot of cancer patients, three's a small pain or irritation that turn us out to be cancer. in this case, there was no indication that she had these two nodules in her lung and it was only by accident after she broke her ribs in a fall last month they discovered this in an

mri looking at her broken ribs. it's quite lucky because otherwise they wouldn't have found these very, very dangerous nodules in her lung? as you pointed out, she may not need further treatment, and that is remarkable. shutdown politics. it is a chronic washington problem. the blame game. who stands to lose the most this time around? we've got two different views on that ahead. we've got two different views on that ahead you might take something for your heart... or joints. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.

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president trump you will not get your wall. >> i think democrats hate trump so much. >> he's not going to take hi

1.6? you're not getting wall today, next week, or january 3rd. >> mr. president, dig in. >> well, if you're just waking up, breaking news this morning, the battle over border funding shutting down the government. both sides digging in. joining me now, brian darling, a former communications senator for rand paul and don callaway. good to see you guys on this saturday. don, i want to start with you. the question needs to be asked. is there room for compromise from the democrats' perspective or do they hold some sort of leverage and will the president have to be the first to blink? >> in the big picture, there's compromise. when it comes to the wall absolutely not. january 3rd, naency pelosi taying over and is an absolute nonstarter in terms of funding from the house, and in this last week we have remaining from 2018, i just don't see it happening. democrats are not gong to allow

the 60-vote threshold that withowould allow us to get to the wall. senator macy her rona said this idea is upper-level low absolute nonsense. >> you're saying if there's room for compromise, it only exists in the next ten days before january 3rd, however, everybody's out of town. how could it get done? it's not going happen? no compromise? >> what would have to happen is what happened before, suspend the rules, which would require a 60-vote majority to get to the funding. >> mitch mccome said no, he's not going to do it. >> right. the idea that they would own this, it just makes no sense. let's be very clear about this. mitch mcconnell doesn't have the republican votes for the wall

and he knows that, which is why it's not happening at all. >> to that end, brian. what don was just saying there, doesn't the president own this shutdown? here's why. let's all take a listen to this. >> i'll tell you what. i am proud to shut down the government for border security, chuck. i will take the mantle. i will shut it down. i won't blake you for it. i'll take the mantle of shutting it down. i'm going to shut it down for border security. >> brian, didn't the president paunlt himself into the corner there? the democrats don't have to budge. they can just ignore it and replay this loop over and over again. >> that's right. president trump may not blame the democrats for shutting down the government, but i will. look at what senator schumer said, there will be no funding p obviously it's become a proxy fight in 2020.

>> wait a minute. the question i asked you, isn't the president responsible for this? i just played that tape. it doesn't give you any more proof than that sth the democrats have also said they will not give it to him. so when you have a 60-vote threshold in the senate to shut the down debate, democrats have power to shut down the government. this is obviously a fight where both sides can tame some blame or credit depending how you look at it. so i don't think it's fair to say the president gets the blame. >> republicans don't have to put this up as part of the agenda, so, of course, they're the oning proffering and offering the border wall as the main linchpin here. so it's not on democrats.

that i don't right or control it. >> look, brian. if the president did not get any border wall funding, how damaging would that be for him politically? you've got the ann coulters and rush limbaughs of the world shaming him. look at ann coulter. she called him gutless. you cannot hear that snow no. but you heard the democrat,le not putting daca on the table is a way to negotiate over more border security on the solution for the docket issue. so the democrats are just as trancy subsequent as republicans. it's a war of words. i's stare-down. >> is there any reason to

suggest that the democrats may say we're going to try to find compromise in the wake of our actions. >> right. >> any way to do that? >> no, not when it comes to the wall. the democrats have a moral imperative to not build the wall. we find it a waste of money and not in the interest of national security or any overarching national interest. it's ironic that we shut down homeland security in an effort to build a wall. we're not talking about people who are overstaying visas from europe or asia. the southern ball -- excuse me -- the southern border wall is a racist froksy for president trump's racist immigration policies. wait one second. i'm not done that. is the fundamental idea. no, there's no room for compromise on the wall and the

president is not going to get it. >> that's simply not true. they're willing to give him 1 president 3 billion dollars,le just not as much as you wabltd. >> why doesn't the president take that. really? at the time of christmas? come on, mr. grinch. why doesn't he do it? is it because of the ann coulter and rush limbaughs calling him out? >> some of the democrats want the fight too. you can say the ann coulters of the world are controlling the republican party, but the democrats are controlled by many far left interests, alexandria

ocasio-cortez. >> does she hold office yet? >> she's clearly a leader of a committee. >> wait a minute. >> she's outspoken. she's not a leader. she ee's outspoken. >> she's on their all the time. >> no. is that a problem? >> yes. medicare for all is a problem because it's socialism. >> i don't have time for that right now. how does this play out? >> the wall will not be funded. it will go to the house in january and go to another c.r. which will allow for another year or two your. how about you, brian? how do you see this playing out? >> unfortunately, yes. >> they could negotiate and get this done possibly as early as the next few days.

i bet they cut a deal. >> what kind of deal? something closer to $5 billion funding -- come to some sort of agreement and everybody will be able to go home and at least enjoy new year's. >> well, we'll see. brian darling, don calloway. thank you so much and happy holidays to you both. the arrests made in the airports here that messed up travel thousands of people. we go there next. people. we go there next

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let's head to london where the situation at gatwick airport is improving after two arrests in a tremendous drone scare. drones began buzzing the airport thursday, and that all led to a closure which affected tens of thousands of travelers of course during the height of holiday travel. >> we put measures in place if the drone appears in terms of

physical response, a technical response we should be in a much better position now to track and cap chirp the drone. >> nbc's lucy kafanov is in london. scary times for pilots, passengers and the like. this is dangerous. what do we know about the arrest, first of all? >> reporter: alex, not much. we know british authorities arrested two people in connection with what they called the criminal use of drones. a 47-year-old man and 57-year-old woman. it's not clear whether they are the culprits. authorities are still investigating and asked the public to step forward with more information. gatwick airport this morning is finally open. a relief for the thousands of passengers affected by this drone disruption. this morning, with two suspects in custody, britain's second busiest airport is open again. passengers hoping the christmas travel nightmare now over after three days of flight disruptions, cancellations and delays, caused by drones.

>> a bit worried yesterday, but today we're really hopeful we'll take off and it will be fine. >> reporter: gatwick airport was foertsed to shut down wednesday night after drones were spotted near the runway. since then more than 1,000 flights canceled or diverted affecting nearly 140,000 passengers. holiday plans in ruins. >> we're not going to be going. we're visiting family and friends in denver and i don't know if we'll get to see them. >> reporter: troops called in to hunt for the operator as police snipers prepared to shoot the drone down. the airport reopened friday but then another drone sighting briefly grounded flights. as the popularity of drones soars, so does the danger they pose in the skies. watch what happens when a drone smashes into the wing of a plane. this dramatic experiment at the university of dayton highlights the risk of collisions. pilots in the u.s. reported more than 2,000 drone sightings this year, and mexico's largest

airline is investigating whether a drone slammed into the nose of one of its planes last week. so there are nearly 800 flights scheduled out of gatwick today. military measures are in place at the airport to ensure folks get to destinations in time for the holidays. and the incident, alex, highlights a disturbing new security vulnerability. >> it does. heartbreaking. the people who might not make it for holiday plans. the worse. lucy carve and a half, thank you, from london. a programming note. i'd talk to congressman ted lieu about all of this. i'm back after a break. come on, get back. quem, you a second behind your brother, stay focused. can't nobody beat you, can't nobody beat you. hard work baby, it gonna pay off.

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we're approaching top of the hour. out of time. i'm alex witt. time for "up with david gura,"

steve kornacki is in for david. have a good one. and welcome to "up." i'm steve kornacki in for david gura and you are waking up to breaking news as we enter hour eight of a government shutdown. >> we're going to have a shutdown. there's nothing we can do about that. >> both parties at an impasse over the president's border wall and the blame game in full force. >> the democrats don't want to support something that will actually secure the border. plain and simple. >> what we've seen is the total trump takeover of the republican party and including a brain meld. >> hundreds of thousands of government employees fur. lowed just days before the holidays. >> president trump could care less. he is in meltdown mode. >> it's saturday, december 22nd and the shutdown is on, but nobody wants to claim ownership. >> amazing! he started the meeting calling it a pelos