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congress and she made waves for saying this. >> when your son looks at you and says, mommy, i love you won. bullies don't win. 1k3 i said no, they don't. because with we're going to go in there and beat back those mother -- >> i know and have heard many -- from many of my residents who are keep up the fight, rashida. they love that i'm real and that i am very much focused on getting the government back up and running, but also making sure that holds the president of the united states accountable. i very much hold dearly that i want to impeach this president.
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>> president trump commented on those comments yesterday. >> using that language, i thought that was a great dishonor to her and her family. you don't impeach people when they're dining a grit job. >> nancy pelosi responded last night at a town hall. >> i don't like that language. i wouldn't use that language. i don't establish any language standards for my colleagues. but i don't think it's anything worse than what the president has said. >> and she should know. "the washington post" reports that during yesterday's white house meeting over the shutdown, the president often used profanity during the meeting, apologizing to pelosi at one point for cursing so much according to the official. while.many are talking about impeachment, representative brad sherman has introduced articles of impeachment against president trump. up this hour, mike peska, the author of "upon further review." susan delpercio, adrian elron,
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former director of strategic communications for hillary clinton. thank you all for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> republicans rebuked rashida yesterday for using profanity. it's in contrast to some of the outrageous things the president said. >> we watched a new freshman stand up, use this language, get cheered by their base and we watched a brand new speaker say nothing to her. >> the fast left elements of nancy pelosi's majority want to go to impeachment and some of them use profanities and an incredibly reactive tone. >> i didn't see it today. >> i didn't see the press korns. i'm sorry. >> do you have one worse for the trump press conference earlier today? >> i didn't watch it. >> so to the.panel, is this a
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thing? is there something more important for to us be focused on? >> there are. profanity happens. what i think happened in this particular case is this is an incoming freshman member of congress who was not prepared immediately to have a spotlight on her, didn't recognize, didn't learn from mitt romney that there's always a camera in the room. she ran away from the press for most of the day. she addressed it. nancy pelosi is fine in saying, listen, i don't like that answer. i don't like that profanity but, you know, she has her point of view. but at the same time, the way she did it, impeachment is not the -- on the forefront of the democrat agenda right now. there's other things. so this whole story basically took away from where the -- where the press and where the democrats really wanted to go yesterday. so it was kind of an unforced
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error in that regard. >> so here is part of what speaker pelosi said yesterday. >> you said it would be sad and divisive for the country to pursue impeachment. are you willing to rule it out? >> we have to wait and see what happens with the mueller report. we shouldn't be impeaching for a political reason and we shouldn't avoid impeachment for a political reason. so we just have to see how it comes. >> i wonder if part of the problem is rashida spoke as the id of the democratic party. she voiced something that a lot of democratic voters may feel strongly, but which might not be in the best interested of the democrats getting stuff done. >> i agree. i don't think the big debate, is that a dirty word, is that an
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unacceptable word might be beside the point. what the debate is, you're undoing the will of the american voter. so brad sherman, the very guy who introduced the impeachment resolution, he wants impeachment now. take a few seconds and figure out what to say. so the point is -- and i understand the glee of someone just get egg electsed to congress and voicing that full throatedly, but there is a public way you do it to get the people on board who aren't already on board and you don't want to be seen as taking this frivolously. >> because the president is bombastic, it forts democrats to be less so because he is so loud that if you match thinks volume,
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it makes everything louder. as opposed to be more calmer and levelheaded and it puts you on your back foot a little bit. >> that's why i'm so glad that leader pa lows ski made the comments she made yesterday where she made it very clear that we're a diverse caucus with different viewpoint webs but this congresswoman does not represent the view of the entire caucus. but she also has a right to speak her mind. furthermore, brad sherman is one of the more progressive members of the congress. so it's not surprising to me that someone is going to file articles of impeachment. we know the real wait is for the mueller investigation and to see what plays out in some of the committees as they do their investigation. i'm not surprised by this. but that is what leader pelosi stressed. and i think there's a quest for
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people to look at what is happening every single day. >> 64% of americans are for impeachment. >> this whole thing is a selective outrage. if you are consistently outraged, just call it out. but rashid, we're waiting for her to be congressional. don't take her literally or suggestively. she is politically incorrect. she's a baby muslim. just wait for her. trump called mexicans rapists and criminals. so this selective outrage -- >> he was also called out.
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there were a lot of us who called him out. >> i say be consistent. but this outrage over rashida's comment when you have this president who has literally gone to the gutter for the past two years or his whole life if you paid attention and use the "f" bomb when it comes to china and taxes, that's what is slightly outrageous. >> is i know we never talk about the president's tweets, but he writes, how do you impeach a president who has won perhaps the greatest election of all time, done nothing wrong, no collusion with russia and was the most popular of any president in history, 93%. we'll set the statistic aside for a moment. but as long as the democrats are using the word impeachment, it
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makes it easier to use the word impeachment with his base and that might be what the president wants and maybe that's the risk. the democrats can't talk about their agenda because they're talking about something the president can use to his own political advantage. >> this is the strategy of the president. he went after mueller, continuing to try to embarrass him and discredit him so he will rile up his base. he is going to go after the democrats saying, look, they want to impeach me to rile up his base that will help keep a level of support there. the problem with that argument is if the mueller investigation does show something significant or the new york southern district says something significant,ism peachment may be real. republicans are scared. they don't know what's coming and they're with the president, but they'll turn on him whereas
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going after a freshman congresswoman who uses profanity is an easy lay-up for them. >> so you think that the republicans would turn on president trump? it's that transactional? >> if they're at stake. if there is something significant in this investigation, absolutely. while bad things have come out on this president, i don't think it's been significant yet, but it could be. >> yeah. so first of all, the president that was described in that peach i wouldn't want to impeach, but that's not the president that we have. if the general question is how does one oppose this president? irng what you said is right. it's politically useful to them
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to have all these avenues at play. at the same time, there are people in the democratic caucus looking at this saying, well, when the mueller report comes out, we might not need to fight impeachment. it will be so damaging in public, we'll bring it to the polls. should you be the calm person? should you be aggressive? there is a prosecute proxy for that in what nommy the democrats will choose in 2020. will it be the calming presence who america will turn to as a break from this cautious presidency. >> and there is one other thing to follow up on that is they now can investigate and they can start looking at the incompetency of this administration, which would be a better thing to lay down, a better marker than this impeachment talk without proof and go after proof that there is -- and that goes after his
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base. to show he's not doing his job. and there is a base that's not just republican, it was people who wanted to say things change. >> and eventually in the conversation moved to impeachment in an earnest way, then the country is going to start learning more about impeachment. anyone who 457has not gone backd listened to barbara's speech during watergate, it's supposed to be for high crimes, misdemeanors, misusing your office. i hear you. if the argument is merely look what an awful president he is as opposed to look at this crime he committed, that's a whole different conversation. we'll talk more befo32020 and elizabeth warren in a moment. up next, i wonder if you remember this conversation from 2008. >> you're likable enough,
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simple. easy. awesome. these are dangerous times for our country. and iowa is going to have a big part in determining where we go next. >> that was senator elizabeth warren kicking off her 2020
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committee. last night, thousands packed the venue with an overflow crowd outside. her next event gibbs an hour from now in sioux city. mike, set the scene for us. what's going on? >> yeah, good morning, joshua. we're here in sioux city, iowa, where senator warren will hold the first of three of her public events today. a similar scene as we saw last night in her first debut event in iowa down in council bluffs. we heard her introduce herself, talk about her roots in norman, o oklahoma, and that led her in the fight for her life, leveling the playing field for working class. as we talk about her first trip here, we see, really, senator warren is fighting a three-front war. the first front, she's trying to stake out the position as the
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lead over what we expect to be a crowded wing of democrats trying to claim the progressive mantle. second, we heard her talk to rachel maddow earlier this week sending an award to those centrists, the michael blackburgs w boomburgs, we need to swear off super pac funding. the last front is president trump where in western iowa, it's interesting the geography, this is steve cane country. this is the most congress servive congressional district in iowa. it's a district where that most populist message we saw penalty president try to adapt in his presidential race is key to senator warren. immigration is a key issue the that's going the be the focus of senator warren's second event. senator warren did not mention donald trump very often. she did talk, of course, about as you heard at the top there this being, you know, dangerous times for our country, but making her pitch very clearly to voters based on her own
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credentials and her own experience. >> mike, sit tight. let me come back to the panel for a moment. as you heard mike mention, she is positioning herself as leader of the pack, being more grassroots and in opposition to president trump even though she did not mention the president by name. let's go for a few tweets now with regard to this whole likability question. i know we never talk he twoots. never, ever. might as well. how elizabeth warren avoid a clinton redux, written off as too unlikable before her campaign gets off the ground? then you have this tweet where she says i hear women candidates are most likable in the quiet car, referring to the interview she did with rachel maddow earlier this week. what does this likability thing mean for female candidates? i always worry about reading too much into these matters, but i also worry about not reading enough into them, like the way we talk about women and women's
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issues is changing, rightly so. where does this conversation go in 2019 as it relates to likability and female candida candidates? >> i understand pollsters have to poll this question. across the board. >> male or female. >> male or female, this is a question that comes up in any poll and you need to know where you stand in that regard. at the same time, i think the media has a responsibility the make sure that they are not prewriting the narrative that they think will eventually evolve out of this. and i think that problem with that politico story and one of the reasons it got so much criticism is there were not people on the record saying i don't like her. they were sort of presuming that the likability factor would be an issue that she would have to contend with because it was something secretary clinton had to contend with. i think with more women running this time around, i think it will be less of an issue, but i think it's important for all of us to realize that we as
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punchedibundits on television need not frame something before it actually exists. >> first, let's look at 2018. women came into office at record numbers. people are getting more and more comfortable voting for women. democrat or republican, we see it mostly on the democratic side. likability is a question we ask everyone. >> that to adrian's point is what we didn't see in that story. i give elizabeth a lot of credit for being the first one out there. how do you run for president? you announce that you're going to run for president. and the fact that she is out of a lot of women considering running for president, she is the first we know out there so she's going the take the hits.
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i think they'll have the benefits. >> some of this feels very political. the likability, someone that you can have a beer with. >> i'm gonna get me a beer. hey, my husband, bruce, is now in here. do you want a beer? >> no, i'll pass on the beer for now. >> that sucks for me because i'm a muslim who doesn't drink. and she needs to wear a flannel shirt, also. and she has to go boling in the rust belt and have some real coffee with some real americans. she has to bowl in a nonconsolenon-scoley way and -- >> i'm sorry, did you say you don't know what a rugula is? >> i am from california. i was just kidding. and i also eat cale, proudly.
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>> this whole thing, it feels like -- on one hand, abraham lincoln said without public scrutiny, nothing can fail and nothing can succeed. but the whole i can have a beer and she seems like my friend -- >> it's nonsense. there is a historic turnout for women. it's apparently the year of the woman again. apparently it was 1992 so you have to wait 26 years. but 25% of americans say they're still uncomfortable with a woman leader, which is absolute nonsense. what would make her likable? how about if she has five kids with three men and has affairs, files for bankruptcy multiple times and uses racist language and has a verifiable tax fraud claim with her father. maybe that will make her likable. that double standard again, just comparing her to trump, for those who are paying attention, it's something that we saw not
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only from her, but trump loves this. he's still running against hillary clinton. republicans ran against nancy pelosi in the midterms and basically they need a foil. and they're going to use this against her. >> but democrats are going to use donald trump as a foil, too. >> come on. >> it's easy. >> you know they're going to attack her for being a her, for being a woman. this whole concept is amplified. you don't see these articles coming out about men. he's scoildy, he's shrill. >> sometimes you do. like with ted cruz. the last two republican presidents didn't drink. >> so getting the beer may be a moot point. we'll see if she breaks one open in sioux city, iowa, where mike is on the scene. coming up, the president says he could declare a national emergency 20g9 the border wall built. and he claims that he's prepared to endure the shutdown for months or even a year.
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how much would republican lawmakers support that? the latest from capitol hill is next. ort that the latest from capitol hill is next
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i'll take it. you know what i'll say?
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yes, if we don't get what we want, one way or the other, whether it's through you, through the military, through anything you want to call, i will shut down the government. >> okay. fair enough. >> i will take the mantle. i will be the one to shut it down. i'm not going to blame you for it. >> that was president trump less than what month ago ready to own the shutdown. that was also before the shutdown actually happened. here is the president yesterday. >> are you still proud to own this shutdown? >> well, you know, i appreciate the way you say that, but once -- 50i78 i'm very proud of doing what i'm doing. i don't call it a shutdown. i'm calling doing what you have to do for the benefit and safety of our country. so you can call it the schumer or the pelosi or the trump shutdown. doesn't make any difference to me. just words. >> this morning, the president tweeted the democrats could solve the shutdown problem in a very short period of time. all they have to do is approve real border security, including a wall, something which everyone other than drug dealers, human
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traffickers and human criminals want very badly. this would be so easy to do. plenty to work through auto capitol hill. that is where we find nbc congressional reporter mike viqueira joining us live. how is the work going to make a deal? >> in about an hour and a half's time, we expect some staffers from the senate offices and the house leadership offices to head up to the white house compound, the eisenhower executive office building. that meeting is he set to begin at 11:00 with they're said to be continuing negotiations. not a lot of optimism that anybody on a staff level is going to have the authority to cut a deal. president trump noting that he has appointed a working group, including his son-in-law, as well as vice president mike pence to work through these issues. but the problem that a lot of people have, both democrats and republicans, is that the president is the only person who can give the say-so the final okay on any punitive deal or potential deal.
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and he is frequently prone, as we have seen, to veer off message and even to pull the rug out from under his own negotiators and to change his mind at the last minute, which is what brought us to this moment now. there is a federal pay raise to capital officials as well as vice president pence. that's set to take effect today. there's a law that's expiring, a freeze on top level federal pay. the vice president and others have said they will not accept the pay raise. mean while, president trump signed something that would set aside the scheduled pay raise for a million and more federal workers. so a lot going on back and forth. the house and the senate have both put in bills to allow retroactive pay to federal workers when and if this shutdown ever ends. the president has said it could go on for years and even months. >> and we should be clear. the goal post has not moved thus far with the negotiations. the president is still pushing for the 5 billion.
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that number is not as of yet flexible. >> both sides are dug in. i think as we were talking about last hour, the breaking point will come when there is political pain to be felt, when there is an outcry and it falls to one side or the other in terms of the public blame or even those directly affected and that is when we will see a breaking point. that point is not yet on the horizon and it's hard to see when that's going the be happening, joshua. >> i'm glad you mentioned public blame, mike. that might be a good place to start with the panel. what about that, susan? is that kind of where this begins to move when one side or other actually feels the blame in a tangible way and says, okay, now we have to solve this? >> yes, it does. and for donald trump, since he has no feelings or doesn't have any empathy for individuals as we saw in the press conference yesterday saying they could last months or years of people not getting a paycheck, what happens is as we start seeing the stories change from overfilled wastepaper baskets and -- or garbage receptacles and national parks to stories about families
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not being able to go take their children to the doctor, not being able to afford gas, having to decide between health care and rent. these are the stories that will start coming up. they've been bubbling up slowly and they will continue. what happens, though, is if it does go on beyond let's say january, both sides start feeling it. because now everyone hates government. while the democrats are certainly in their right to hold strong against the president, which i think they should, my guess is that we're going to see two things start to specially bubble up. one is the democrats coming out with this is our plan. this is the border security that we support and put something out there. the president would be very wise to do it first because then he could say look what the democrats aren't approving. taking the wall out. they're not supporting more border guards, etcetera. they could go on and on and on. but this is going to really start to hurt the president. we see it even with tsa.
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we have a flyer's flu. tsa people aren't showing up. that's national security. homeland security is not being funded. coast guard people, members of the coast guard who protect our country are not being paid. >> i heard from a number of members of the coast guard on 1 dpdz1a this week who are talking about how there with was one guy who kuld in who said his coast guard reserve work was basically his health insurance money. so if he didn't get paid for that work as a reservist, it would be the line between he and his family being able to insure themselves or not. is there an issue if the democrats don't come out the hero in this? the democrats have made it clear, we don't like donald trump, we don't like your face, we think you shouldn't be here. but now is the time for governance. is there an issue for democrats if they can't think of a way to win with the president sdmp. >> eventually, there will be something that democrats and republicans both have to deal with. and i think when it comes to border security, obviously
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democrats are not going to support the wall. we're not going to do that. democrats made clear that they'll put $1.6 billion up for the wall. the rest will be coming from aspects of security, but they're not going to support a wall. however, i think eventually there will have to be a compromise otherwise it will be on all of us. and you wonder why congressional approval ratings are so low. this is only going to sink in even further. >> i think it's going the help the democrats because trump has claimed ownership over this shutdown. the wall is not popular. mexico is not paying for it. now it's beautiful steel slats and 800,000 people, federal workers, are not going to be paid. >> mike viqueira will be keeping an eye on that. just ahead, a new congress, new committee chairs and that means new investigations. we'll break down what could be on the 2019 to-do list including the demands for the president's tax returns. that's next. e demands for the p tax returns. that's next. we know their rates are good,
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ten new democratic house committee chairs are about to make trump's life even tougher. an impeachment of the president
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could happen. and congressman adam schiff has set hits sights on the russia probe. we know in the run up to this meeting at trump tower that there were phone calls going back and forth between trump junior and the russian oligargh's son. and sandwiched between those calls is a blocked call. and we wanted to know did that come from the president. when we are constituted, we can get those records. >> let's talk this out with ken delaney. and joining us from washington, ken, what are you watching for in these investigations now that the democrats are in charge? >> if it seemed like the last two years in washington were chaotic and tumultuous, just wait. because these democrats have a host of investigations planned. obviously, i cover the russia investigation. so i'm most focused on what could come out of that and related to that is the democratic effort to obtain
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donald trump's tax returns. as you know, trump was the first major party nominee in 40 years other than gerald ford not to have released his returns and the chairman of the ways and means committee, richard neal, has a plan to use an obscure 1924 law to command those republica returns and to make them public. but there are so many other investigations. for example, the decision to cancel the plans for the fbi to move to a headquarters outside of washington, d.c. to what extent was donald trump involved in that and will that benefit his hotel across the street? that's something just to cite one example that democrats are going to investigate. >> can some of the members of the panel that we've spoken to spoke very temperatly. they said they weren't going on hand out subpoenas like party favors. do you get the sense that the members of the democratic haus,
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caucus, are eager to dive in with subpoenas? they're being more measured? what does it pace look like? >> they're being very calculating. they have a plan. first you do what's called a chairman's letter where you sort of ask nicely. because it's actually more difficult than people understand to enforce a congressional subpoena and you have to establish a record to the court that you've tried to ask in other ways and you've tried to get the information every way possible. and it's also true that congress has leverage. they have provisions levers that they can threaten agencies with withholding money and they will extract information that way. but at the end of the day, there will be subpoenas, there will be fireworks, there will be litigation and they realize they're not going to get everything that they ask for, but there will be some revelations. this is the first time donald trump has faced an adversarial congress and i'm not sure he understands what that means. >> mike, the president is responding to the potential of some of these subpoenas. the president tweeted, quote,
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many people currently a part of my opposition, including president obama and the dems have had campaign violations, in some cases for very large sums of money. these are civil cases. they paid a fine and settled. while no big deal, i did not commit a campaign violation. so maybe he's starting to get out ahead of this. although he's talked about this thing before. >> they always muddy the waters with the obama campaign violations which is more of a disclosure and the amount of money they talk about is the total amount of money donated. it's very different from what we're talking about which is a quid pro quo possibly from a foreign government. here is the thing about the subpoenas. beyond you just introducing new evidence, i think they will focus our attention. i think that's really important because journalists have unearthed so much indisputable factual items that cast a dark shadow out of trump's practices. like the past practices act or
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that "new york times" story that nailed down how he skirted all these laws in inherenting wealth from his father. those kind of went nowhere. they're just one of these things out there in the ether. but like a hanging, a congressional subpoena has the ability to concentrate the mind. so i think that will be a power of these subpoenas. >> we did an hour on that "new york times" laundry. there was so much in there, it was almost too hard to know where to focus. but i wonder if that's maybe the risk for democrats is that, you know, attention spans being what they are, we have to be very careful what we focus on as an electorate. the democrats, i imagine, have to be very careful on not just what they subpoena, but what they subpoena first. >> people can walk and chew gum at the same time. and i think the financial trail, it's nerdy work, but that is going to i think cripple donald trump. because you have his right hand man, michael cohen, who named
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him as individual one who helped coordinate and direct the campaign finance violation, the alleged campaign finance violation. donald trump loves "game of thrones." subpoenas are coming and they're going to be coming. they're going to be the financial trail to russia, the financial trail to saudi arabia, the deutsche bank connection. that will be maxine waters who isn't going to be dumb. and also, let's not forget the foreign affairs committee and they're going to find out about this trump property in canada. and i think it's going to add to the specter of a president who is kru79 corrupt, who is using his presidency as an atm and it's going to cripple him leading up to 2020. >> you got me there. i'm thinking about season eight. ken, is there a timeline for when this all might get rolling or is that all up in the air? >> it will get rolling rather quickly, joshua. the democrats are working
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closely and they have a plan. they realize that problem that you articulated. you have to creative a narrative for the american public. you can't just bury them in scandal after scandal and they're thinking very carefully about how to do that. you would think there would be rivalries over which pound of flesh the american public gets. but they are meeting, they're hashing this out and it's going to start rolling almost as soon as they get back to washington. >> ken, thanks very much. coming up, critics are coming after congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez over a video. what's drawing fire and how it could back fire, next. what's drawing fire and how it could back fire, next. ities with a level of protection in down markets. so you can be less concerned about your retirement savings. talk with your advisor about shield℠ annuities from brighthouse financial, established by metlife. from brighthouse financial, stop fearing your alarm clock... with zzzquil pure zzzs. a drug-free blend of botanicals with melatonin that supports your natural sleep cycle so you can seize the morning.
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[ music playing ] that was congresswoman alexandria ocasio cortez working it out, dancing during her college days. >> that footage went viral after being leaked on the attack of her swearing in congress. she took her dance to the halls of congress and says i think the gop thinks women dancing are scandalous, wait until they find out congress women dance, too. this star is a lightning rod for
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republicans him some booed her on the first day in the house. she tweets, don't hate me because you ain't me, folks. we bring it back to you. let me get a little bit more context on what happened with her. here's some of the reporting from the "new york times". here's how they've put it. time. here's how they've put it. i live in washington. i couldn't afford an apartment there until i received a salary? salary is how you pay your rent. i'm not sure how i get that. what is this? is this a distraction, first of all? >> i believe she was dancing. i mean, oh my. no, seriously. this is a distraction,
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obviously. it's something that the republicans are picking up on and trying to use, which i think is a mistake. because i don't think that you want to go back 20, 30 years for some of the members in congress now, republicans when they were in college, i'm guessing it wouldn't be too pretty. exactly. but going forward, i also think that while she had a stunning victory and what she did was tremendous. she took out a sitting congressman with tremendous results and deserves rockstar credit for that. the problem is, is that she's starting. she continued to act like rockstar and she is, in fact, a freshman member of congress. and i think if she pushes too far to get too many headlines not based on real legislative achievements or going forward, she's going to get some pushback from some of her colleagues who want to see at this time where it's so important to go after the president. >> right. >> that we have to stay focused
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and the issues and the tasks ahead. >> can't she, adrian, be a freshman and a rockstar at the same time? she's going to be on "60 minutes" tomorrow with anderson cooper. here's an advanced piece of that interview. watch. >> tippy tops on your 10 millionth dollar. sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60 or 70%. >> do you call yourself a radical? >> yeah, if that's what radical is, call 93 radical. >> i think what calls her a rockstar, republicans love to use her as a punching back. even democrats, like she represents a younger, newer, 2018-'19 strand of democratic politics that i think the nancy pelosis and chuck schumers of the world might be concerned about. >> susan raises a point. ultimately, she has a large
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base. she is sort of emblematic of the next generation of democratic leaders, progressives, in platform at the same time, her constituents expect her to legislation i late. joe crawley, he was very experienced and got a lot done. if she will stay re-elected by the people who are the ones voting for her, she has to deliver some results. you know, again, it's great that she's doing these interviews. but i think she can take a queue from perhaps senator clinton when she was senator clinton in the freshman year. she knew she was coming in with a rockstar status. she wanted to demonstrate that she can do the work and be overly flashy. >> i just want to clarify something. she was a rockstar, yes, in here achievements for running for office. what i meant in a continuing way, it's one thing to go out and do all these interviews. yes, when she went out there she didn't know how to handle israel and her voters didn't vote for
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her because of that you need to know the facts, how you come to unemployment, not the reason is people have two jobs. that's not how you comeco unemployment. that's what i was referring to. she has to do her homework and show she is knowledgeable. >> briefly. last word. >> she is hell of likable. she has become a superstar. she dances, struggles to pay her rent. she is a human being. everyone is talking about alessandra ocasio-cortez. she's hot right now. >> are you kidding me, if my mother saw me pick up a donut right now? >> i'll hold the donut. >> susan del percio, adrian, shoutout, everybody. thanks for spending the hour with us. we are back in just a minute. stay close. k in just a minute stay close get going with carnation breakfast essentials®. it has protein, plus 21 vitamins and minerals including calcium and vitamin d, to help your family be their best.
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of the united states. >> good morning. and happy new year. and welcome to "am joy 2019." well, it is a few year and a brand-new era. democrats control the house, the most diverse congress in history has been sworn in and madam speaker, nancy pelosi, officially took back the gavel on thursday. lots of americans feeling more hopeful amany i'd the return to divided government. but probably not one particular guy in washington. donald trump, he's about to enter a whole new world without the protection of house republicans. democratic efforts are already under way to obtain trump tax returns. to take a deeper look into his business dealings and his ties to russia. to bring in potentially corrupt members and former members to testify before congress am hearings. not to mention the possibility of impeachment and, of course, the democrats now also have their own priorities. the green new deal. health care, voting rights, just to name a few. but all of that

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