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>> sounds good. it is high noon here in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. shutdown week 3, new meetings and a new strategy for getting the president's wall built without congress. the big question -- is it legal? >> we're all on the same pat. >> there's no reason for the public to pay a price in services. the workers pay a price in paychecks. this a totally irresponsible thing to say. >> i'm proud of doing what i'm doing. i don't call it a shutdown. >> the curse word heard around the country and whether a new member of congress said what many are thinking. plus don't call it a shutdown. the one word the president would prefer to call the government closure. but new this morning, a fresh round of weekend negotiations to end the parch gov shutdown vice president

pence started a meeting in the last hour with staff. included is jared kushner and kiersten nielsen, as well as acting chief of staff mick mulvaney. we'll bring you new details on that as soon as we get them. meanwhile, yesterday the president threatening to keep 25% of the government closed for months, if not a year. and he's considering dollar a national emergency to build that border wall without congressional approval. "the washington post" records the trump administration recognized only this week the severity of the potential consequences of the shutdown. 38 million low-income americans would see their food stamps reduced. $140 billion in tax refunds could be frozen or delayed if the shutdown stretches into next month. thousands of federal workers fear missing payments or not

being able to afford groceries if they don't receive their paycheck next friday. >> i've served the government 22 years in the military, been civil service since 2011. i've done my part. they need to do their part. >> y'all have to come to some kind of agreement. you know, lives are at stake here. >> the president sending this message to the 800,000 federal workers furloughed or forced to work without pay. >> do you have in mind a safety net for those who need -- >> the safety net is having a strong border. many of the people you are discussing, i really believe they agree with what we're doing. >> i want you to understand how you expect federal workers to last that long without a paycheck? >> if we have to stay out -- and many of those people, maybe even most of those people who will not be getting their money in at this moment, those people in many cases are the biggest fan of what we're doing. >> of course the president did

not answer either of those questions directly. however, in the last hour, the president has tweeted many times. this is the photo the white house released of that meeting. >> we told the president we needed the government open. he resisted. in fact he said he would keep the government closed for a long period of time, months or even years. >> reporter: did you say that? >> i did. >> reporter: service your assessment? >> absolutely i said that. i don't think it will, but i am prepared. >> negotiations on the border wall continue. the house now controlled by democrats passed on thursday a funding bill that was approved last month by the republican-led senate, but mitch mcconnell is refusing to even allow a vote on any legislation the president won't support. now mcconnell is facing pressure from republican senator susan collins and cory gardner,

because they agree with democrats in sending the shutdown down and negotiating border funding later. >> we can have a bigger fight for the rest of the funding anyway. that was going to happen whether or not you got $5 billion or more. i support getting the $5 billion and more, but let's get the government open. let's go to white house correspondent kellie o'donnell with more on this. kelly, what do you know about this meeting? >> reporter: it is under way now. we've been talking with advisers who say the vice president is leading this session. as you pointed out, jared kushner, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser is there. the secretary of homeland security is there. the top legislative affairs director for the white house, they're the white house team. the acting chief of staff i'm told made an appearance at the meeting, but will not be there the whole time. on the congressional side, representatives from both parties from the top offices of leadership. these are the kinds of senior staffers who work in these

congressional offices, not the elected officials, but the people who are really experts on the legislation, they know the budget, they know the issues, and are often the ones drafting the legislation. this is a senior staff-level kind of negotiation session today. i was told by advisers they started at 11:00 and had no end time on the schedule, just to see where it would go. they began by going to the situation room, which was described as a prebriefing, and now they're sort of across the way at the ceremonial office of the vice president, which is a large ornate sort of conference room working through the issues. we've soon the comings and goings. we're in day 15. there has not been a successful negotiation at the president trump/congressional leader

level, and the president suggested this, and congressional offices agreed to work on this through the weekend. of course, this is one part of everything that is happening. we just don't have any sense if this is a breakthrough day or not. the president is at the white house, tweeting quite a bit. in part, he wrote several things about the shutdown. this one stands out -- i don't care that most of the workers not getting paid are democrats, the president writes. i want to stop the shutdown as soon as we are in agreement on strong border security. notice the caps and exclamation point. i'm in the white house and really to go, where are the dems? we don't have any expect he would come to the meeting. the vice president is leading this meeting. we also know this weekend, tomorrow they will be at camp david, the president, acting chief of staff and senior staffers for the white house, using the presidential retreat for a planning session for their

agenda for this year. so there's a lot of here they come/there they go happening, but there isn't as much about how they're going to resolved this. one of the issue the president said is within his power so to declare a national emergency and then build the border wall. he was asked about this at the q&a, the extensive question and answer with reporters on friday. here's how he responded. >> reporter: have you considered using emergency powers to grant yourself authorities to build this wall without congressional approval? and second -- >> yes, i have. >> reporter: you have? >> and i can do it if i want. >> reporter: you don't need congressional approval? >> no, absolutely we can call a national emergency because of the security of our country, absolutely. we can do it. i haven't done it. i may do it. i may do it, but we could called a national emergency and build it very quickly. it's another way of doing it. >> reporter: so that power exists for the president, but in this situation, there would

certainly by legal challenges to that. in addition, there of course are 800,000 federal employees not getting their paychecks. the office of personnel management has sent out a memo that says planned raises for cabinet-level secretaries should not go forward while the shutdown is in play. those seniors and the president has not had a raise in five years, and that was triggered by the shutdown. the freeze on their pay lapsed. so that's one of the other updates. they're scheduled for a raise, but officials are saying they're not going to get it during the shutdown. kelly o., thank you so much. we'll speak again. nancy pelosi is going head to head with the president over the funding. joy reid, roasto host of "a.m. joy" sat down with nancy pelosi to discuss that and a whole lot

more. >> mitch mcconnell, your counterpart has made it clear even though these were senate bills, that he won't put them back on the floor unless the president approves of them. >> i think what mish mcconnell is doing, and i say this as respectfully as possible, is say we're not needed, congress might as well stay home. all we need is one person to show up, donald trump. impeachment is a very divisive approach to take, and we shouldn't take it for anything other than the facts and the wall, and we'll see what happens with the mueller report. you're seeing a culture of chronnyism, corruption and incompetent in this, where people are dropping off like flies. what is shameful is not only the president's behavior in so many respects, and his lack of interests in data, facts or truth when it comes to make a decision. what's shocking is the

republicans in the congress of the united states will not hold him accountable. words have -- weigh a ton. the president has to realize his words weigh a ton, too. some of the words he has used have a direct impact on people's lives. all right, my friend. it was about ten minutes, but joy reid joins me. a bit of criticism there from speaker plotsist for senator mcconnell. do you think she was suggesting he's failing to fulfill the duties that the voters have implore a him, and do you think that would be effective? >> i think, yes, absolutely. if you combine what she had about mcconnell essential saying the senate isn't needed if all we need is for one person to make all the decisions. if you combine that with her acceptance, in which she made a big deal about the article i power, the first branch of

government is congress, she believes that congress needs to take back its power from donald trump. she was both criticizing him and gently pushing him to say, c'mon, mitch mcconnell you are the head of a power of branch of government, stand up to the president. >> but here a quote from a journalist, that that they'll be best of friends when it comes to blocking he nancy pelosi's shots. a couple senators are saying this has to end. >> this is going to be different. he has two competing interests. number one, he wants to hold on to the senate, to his majority and the power such as he uses it, but at the same time he has to run for reelection in 2020, and the current governor matt biven primaried him before. what's to say he won't try to get an upgrade and run against him, and matt biven is the

uber-trump loyalist. if he isn't in lockstep with trump, and they didn't do what the president wants, he's going to have a primary problem, so he wants to try to get in trump's corner. at the same time i spoke with michael steele earlier on my show, and he was making the point that mcconnell is privately frustrated, that he keeps putting himself out on a limb, and trump sawed the limb off. he has he intractable problems, where he has members like cory gardner, and the threat from him is not being too pro-trump, it's not standing up to trump. so they've got to try to stand up to the president. it's going to be much harder for mcconnell to hold his caucus together now. >> what about those colorful

comments and the speaker shied away from all of that? they were impeachment-related comments by rashida tlib, so then what is the position of the caucus? when you think about the democratic agenda overall, what does that look like to pelosi? where does impeachment stand? >> so speaker pelosi has her own challenges, which is the incoming freshmen are a group of activists, they come -- some from more red districts, but a lot from progressive districts. the caucus overall i think is pro-impeachment. the leadership wants to proceed slowly, so it doesn't look split cal the way the impeachment of bill clinton did. i'm not sure she can stop the momentum. maxine waters is already there. there are other members who are already there. congressman al green have will be introduced articles of

impeachment. >> steve cohen has been there already for a long time. >> absolutely. on your first point, alex, passing legislation is not about the senate passing it, too. it's about demonstrating to the american people, here is what you can have with democratic leadership. she's been very careful to make the agenda of the party match the agenda of the 2018 voters. they say they want health care, she giving health care reform. they say they want green energy, the climate change to be addressed, she's giving them that, giving the freshmen that. she's a master at giving her caucus broadly what they want, but also keeping them in a reelectable sort of position no matter where they are. i do agree that slowing the momentum toward impeachment is probably going to be her biggest challenge. i believe it's a lunch break for you on for you, my friend. >> i think so. i will sew you tomorrow morning. >> thank you. bye. what so fehling congressmen

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senator elizabeth warren is in iowa this weekend. the presidential hopeful was in sioux city this morning. mike wembley is on the ground there for us. how was the turnout for her? >> reporter: well, alex, good morning from sioux city in the western part of iowa, where

senator warren just finished her first event of the day. she was taking selfies from some of the more than 500 people. she's using the first trip to iowa really to introduce herself. she is a well-known figure in the democratic party, of course, but there's an idea that people don't know much about her story. she's talking about her um able roots growing up in oklahoma and how that formed hi life for this fight. when she turned up to the event to the audience to take questions, it was the first thing on voters ease mind. a voter asked, why did you make that decide last fall to release a dna test? isn't that playing into the president's hands?

let's listen. >> put in to helping us determine. so tribal tribes and only tribes determines citizenship. i respect that difference. i can't stop donald trump from what he's going to do. i can't stop him from hurling racial insults. i don't havefully power to do that. >> yes you do! [ laughter ] >> reporter: she was careful to say her ancestry were part of the stories she heard growing up, but it was not something she introduced herself, but something her political opponents were trying to use against her.

she also has some of her academic records. >> okay, one stop down, two to go new today, rashida tlib, was caught on video uses profanity. her comments drew immediate bipartisan condemnation. >> we're different from the roles that may have been there for a long time. i can tell you, i think they also agree with me. i know if i was a man, it might have been differently. i know that for me i've always been this way. i think no one expects me to be anything but myself. the girl from southwest detroit, with a little sass and attitude.

welcome back, sir. >> happy new year. you're a pastor. the congresswoman is say this is me, it's an authentic me. why do you not appreciate the comment, the expletive specifically? >> look, donald trump has been making these comments or much worse since the campaign. you know, but we cannot afford to get into the gutter with the president. the president is practices junior high school use of the english language, trying to outwit another junior high school kid. i think ms. tlaib is a good and decent person, and therefore she should not allow herself to get

into the same kind of situation that the president intentionally has gotten in over the years. sew we've got to -- we cannot as a body, congress, to export all of this anger across the country. that's what donald trump is doing. he wants to win on anger. we want to win on principle and on policy. i think she -- i think as time moves on, i think she's going to do a fabulous job. i don't know her at all. we've only been around each other a couple days, but i don't think that's who she is. trying to stop donald trump from being nasty is like trying to blow out a light bulb. you know, so we have to let him do what he does. look, he's insulted a lot of my friend like frederica wilson, maxine waters, call people all kinds of names. we are above that.

that is not who we are. in the prayer two days ago, the first nonchaplain to deliver it in probably a couple centuries, i talked to god about helping us, you know, be a -- help create a kinder nation. i don't think democrats ought to get into where donald trump is. the congresswoman tlaib also wrote -- we are also now hearing political initiating impeachment is unwise, and the focus should be holding him accountable, such a claim places partisan gamesmanship over our country and our most vulnerable. has pursuit of impeachment become inevitable? >> it could become inevitable. that's what we ought to allow to happen. the democrats are going to do

checks and balances. that's what we are required to do we haven't done that in two years. if doing those checks and balances we come across information that would cause most decent people to tremble, most decent americans to tremble, particularly if it involves any kind of relaxation of u.s. policies toward russia, we may not have any alternative what we've been saying for two yea years, let mueller complete his investigation. we can't say on one hand let mueller complete his investigation -- we have to allow him to finish his investigation, and we may come

across some of that in the hearings. if so, my goodness, we would be irresponsible not to do that, but look, i'm associating with people in the democratic caucus all day long. i don't hear my colleagues walking around talking about impeachment. that is not what's happening. >> it's not high on the agenda of nancy pelosi at this point anyway. ty know you voted with fellow democrats to end the shutdown. you've heard the president say he could declare a national emergency, use the military, getting the wall built without approval. do you see that happening? what do you see it taking to end this stale meat? first of all, that would maybe end up, during that whole process, hurting more and more americans, because they're not going to be able to function, they won't be able to get child care and so forth, but i think we can end this as soon as the

senate realizes that we are an quality branch of government. we passed legislation that would have allowed us to be engaged now in trying to come up with a permanent solution, but the president after hearing some criticism decidehood he was out of the deal. >> but congressman, is it the senate's fault that the president will not sign any legislation that's passed if it were to be passed by both houses, would he say you won't give me the money p. i'm not signing anything. >> it is the senate's fault. we are equal branches of the government, and for us to say we're not going to do anything unless the president likes it is ceding our he congressional responsibility. if he doesn't sign it, we

override his veto, and actually if you look at the vote before the president -- we could have overwritten the president's veto i don't think the senate, whether held by a senate -- should allow the president to dictate the policies of the united states. that's not what the framers of the constitution intended. >> congressman emanuel cleaver, it's always good to see you, sir. thank you so much. >> good to be with you. why they're just now coming to grips with the potential impact. coming to grips with the potential impact

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at this hours, white house officials led by vice president pence, are meeting in another attempt to end the government shutdown. joining me is betsy woodruff, and gabby orr, white house reporter for politico. ladies, with a happy new year to

you both. betsy, first, what do we know about this meeting? >> it's tough to game out how many progress should be made. there's zero indicators that the actual terms upon which they're designate have changed in the last week or so. the reality is the wall was the most important campaign promise trump made. it's a bick part of the reason he ultimately became president, and many people are likely to be furious. in the say way for democrats, opposition to the wall is a core mart of principle. it's not just about opposing intending they feel is wasteful and inefficient, but it's a symbol of unwelcome towards non-americans that trump would

permanently put at the southern border. all parties will go in firmly trenched into those views. you know i trying to fritter around the edges or weighing to minimize the shutdown is unlikely to change here. >> the trump he administration recognized only this week the breadth of the potential impact, but none of that seems to be reflected in the president's tone. take a listen. >> i've never had so much support as i have in the last week over my stance for border security, for border control, and for frankly the wall or the barrier. i have never had anything like it in terms of calls coming in, in terms of people writing in and tweeting and doing whatever they have to do. i've never had this much support. we've done some things, as you know, have been very popular.

>> is there any indication the without is faltering here? >> well, they're certainly concerned about optics this week, more than at any point previously. we know based on a memo released last might from the office of management and budget, they holding off to on the 10% pay increase for federal workers who are in the top threshold of this administration. so that would include vice president pence, people like mick mulvaney, the chief of staff, several cabinet secretaries. they are freezing that. obviously the white house does not want to deal with the optics of having salaries increased from 180 to 200,000 while federal workers are furloughed and not receiving pay. this is a minor move the white house has done so far, to at least acknowledge the pain of the shutdown. president trump in that press conference yesterday was asked if he thinking that landlords should go easy on furloughed and unpaid federal workers, who are

not able to make their rent payments. he had a very non-conciliatory response to that. so i think they're realizing the longest this goes on, the more damage it does to this president and the members of this administration need to step up at least the act as if they're caring about what this impact is on average americans and federal workers. >> fortunately you gave very informative and dense answers, because i'm out of town. we will see you both soon. up next, i'm going to ask tom satire whether he's about to spend on himself a fair amount of money to run for president, and what about his campaign to impeach the president? >> you can't impeach somebody who's doing a great job. i've probably done more in the first two years than any president, any administration in

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a flu poll shows impeachments of the president near the bottom of the list of things that americans consider important. most are correspondent about lowering prescription prices. in compact impeachment the is 20th on that list. tom satire has spend millions,

and happy new year to. i want to talk about this next ad campaign. this is a whopper. 1.6 billion on another impeachment issue ad campaign. >> alex, this president is going to get impeached and removed from office. he has clearly committed impeachable offenses. he is a threat to the american people and to our value system. because of the replied terms and then the holidays, and we're

going to be a heck of a lot more. in fact it's going to turn ounce to be the biggest issue so far. >> i also know next week you're going to be in iowa. tom, we've been watching, what are your talking points to iowans, and is it fair to say you soon will be announcing antsial run. >> what i'm saying about impeachment and what i will say in iowa, is impeachment of this corrupt and lawless president is a first step toward a more. >> andes missing for a long,

long time. yes, it's absolutely critical. frankly the shutdown you've been discussing is a perfect example of why it's urgent to get him out of office, but it's also important for americans to realize and what it means to be -- so i'm going to be talking about both of those things. >> okay. what else? what do you think americans want to hear i think what americans need is a new framework. i've said there are five of those rights that they could never have imagined. that's the right to an equal vote, which has been attacked. the right to clean air and clean water. the right to learn. the right to a living wage.

and the right to health. i think if you can understand that kind of protective framework for every american, would elbe free again both individually and as a people to go forward and create the lives we want and the country we want. i think that's a complete change in what ronald reagan proposed 40 years ago. how america will prosper and the fundamental rights of american citizens. i talked about the kind of money you've been spending. how do you connect, and has it been easy to connect with working-class voters? does being a billionaire give you some amount of credibility? it does with trump and his supporters. >> i have spent the last six years traveling around the united states and speaking to

people in every part of society, which has both been the greatest joy in my life, but also a chance for me to learn from them how they see the world. so i do think that 35 years in the private sector gave me some inside into how economic systems work, how wages relate to prosperi prosperity, but i also think it's absolutely critical who you see on a daily basis, whose voice you hear, who you understand as a full person. if i hadn't spent six year doing nothing but that, i would think, my gosh, how can i really understand? but that's who i've spent my time with, and i phi as if, as i said, it's such a great joy, because americans are compassionate and brave and smart and it has been a chance for me to learn so much about

how people think, and how they actually share across geographies. >> i know you're an exemplary father to your family, and put all of that together, and you are on the right tack, tom satire. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back. which i used to offer health insurance to my employees. what's in your wallet?

we made a plea to the president once again -- don't hold millions of americans, hundreds of thousands of workers, hostage. >> i'm very proud of doing what i'm doing. i don't call it a shutdown. i call it doing what i have to do for the benefit and safety of our country. >> senator schumer and the president after yesterday's meeting. let's bring in alina beverly, joe watkins, former white house aide to president george h.w. bush, and political analyst rick tyler. happy new year to all of you.

rick, to you first here. the president is also saying he's prepared for this to go on for months, even years. is that a real possibility here? >> i don't know about years. i think the congress would decide to override him and reopen government. there's only so much of this they're going to take, but i've said it probably will easily make the longest shutdown in history. donald trump has so painted himself in the corner, but eventually the paint will dry and he'll walk himself out. >> alina, what about what the president said about bypassing congress altogether to get the building. is that fair play? >> not only is it not fair play. it's probably not constitutional. this is not the way that the system is supposed to work in terms of policy. however, i will say that i think that this government shutdown is president trump's marie an

antoinette moment, just let them eat cake. just figure it out. >> that's an interesting analogy. it certainly applies. let's listen to what lindsey graham said about the you want's demand for border wall funding. >> if he gives in now that's the end of 2019 in terms of him being an effective president. that's probably the end of his presidency. >> is that what this is about now, joe? the fear of losing his base, just riding off into the sunset and losing by a lot in 2020? >> i think lindsey graham is talking about the president trying to keep his base, and of course mollify his base by doing this. but at the end of the day it

would be much better if they passed some kind of short-term resolution to keep the government open and continue to work on the details of what border security might look like. this is tragic, by the way for federal workers, not just the 800,000, but contractors, grantees, all those people who have business with with the government who are put off, delayed and not paid during this period of time. for those workers especial lip, this is tough. they have mortgages to pay, they have families to support. this is just disastrous for them. >> for some it's a question of whether groceries will be on the table the next week, because they live paycheck to paycheck. nancy pelosi's offer to trump is nothing for the wall. can they get her to budge to some degree, or do they think she's serious about this? absolutely nothing? >> i think she's serious about no. she's said no in so many ways for the last few days and weeks.

she says no to the wall, but that is not no to border security. i think that the democrats are interested in having border security. i think there is a -- there is a compromise that could be reached if we expand what is on the table. for example, if there are opportunities to reach a compromise and protections for dreamers, that might be a possibility, but there will be no wall, no euphemism for a wall, no alternative word for the wall. there would be no wall. >> i do want to move to another headline this week and start with you on thissic rick, with mitt romney's op-ed in which he declared the president's conduct is evidence that the president has not risen pot mantle of the office. i mean, that statement is all the more striking you have some democrats pushing for impeachment proceedings. how did you interpret that? >> i think he's trying to carve a space for himself. i'm a business cynical about it.

i don't disagree with anything he wrote except for his characterization of trade policy, which i think he's absolutely wrong about. look, if mitt romney was recently elected the senator from arizona or the senator from tennessee, he would not have written this op-ed. he's fortunate to have come from the state of utah, which is very conservative. he enjoys support there, but it's a state that doesn't like trump as much. so he's pretty safe in putting it out there. >> joe, your thoughts also on mitt romney's op-ed? >> well, mitt romney of course is going to try to remain a national player and a national spokesperson for republicans who might not be satisfied with the things that the president is doing, so i'm not surprised to see this. he's been on both sides of the trump issue. he's been a supporter, and then vocally against trump in the past. i'm not surprised. thank you, guys. good to see you all.

>> good to see you. congressman barbara lee joins me to talk about what it will take to get this government up and running again. will take to get this government up and running again your insurance company won't replace

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