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its all included with your amazon prime membership. that's how xfinity makes tv... simple. easy. awesome. we're at the top of the hour here at msnbc headquarters in new york and this is "weekends aalex witt." new this hour, a monumental question capturing the political world. what is behind the relationship between president trump and russian president vladimir putin? a report from the "washington post" chronicling president trump to reveal the communications over five locations over the past two yours. shrouded in secrecy the president's two-hour meeting during the helsinki meeting and the germany summit in 2017. the "post"reports on the last occasion the president took

"possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what transpired with other administration officials." the president responding. >> i had a one-on-one meeting with putin like i do any other leader. nobody ever says anything about. with putin, oh what did they talk about? we talked about very positive things. i met with putin, and anybody could have listened to ma meeting. that meeting is occupy for grab. >> opposite reactions to the report. >> if you compare objectively, president trump's policies to russia compared to president obama's policies to russia, by any measure president obama was much easier, much more gentle on russia. >> it's curious that throughout that whole summer when these investigations started you had vladimir putin policies almost being parroted by donald trump. >> many of us would argue while

those sanctions had been put in place, the trump administration has been very slow at implementing those sanctions. >> also front and center, friday's "new york times" report the fbi opened a kount intelligence inkwur any 2017 whether the president had been working on behalf of russia, whether actively or unwittingly so. listen to the new chair of the senate judiciary committee lindsey graham. >> i'm going to ask the fbi director, was there counterintelligence investigation opened up regarding the president as being a potential agent of the russians. i find it astonishing and to me tells me a lot about the people running the fbi, mccabe and that crowd. i don't trust them as far as i throw hem. >> here's a look at that bombshell front page "washington post" story today and the reporter greg miller also wrote the book "the apprentice: trump, russia and the submersion of

american democracy." greg, glad to see you. you can't believe how much i highlighted in the article and stars and underlining and exclamation points. lots to process in this report. give me a general consensus what you have learned. >> the bottom line is that trump treats his relationship with putin differently than any american president in our life time has ever done with their counterparts in moscow. decade after decade, presidents allowed senior people to take notes, detailed shared across other government agencies so everybody's on the same page. trump doesn't do any of that and insists on excluding his staff and as we reported in the paper today in one case took the notes away from the one government official in the room, the

interpreter. >> so, greg, is there a sentiment that you take away from all of this? just a sense of, what this leads to or what it portends? >> i was really just watching the footage you were airing just a minute ago to set up our conversation here and trump talking about how he meets one-on-one with so many leaders, and the press make as big deal about him meeting with putin. i mean does he really not grasp at this point in his presidency that that relationship is under enormous scrutiny for very logical reasons? including the fact that russia, not other -- not the other countries nor their leaders, engaged in an unprecedented campaign interference operation to try to help elect trump, and he's under investigation. it's just remarkable, two years in, that he seems or at least pretends to be unable to see why

that would matter. >> which you put in context even among classified files, greg, there are no records of these five interactions with vladimir putin? >> yes. that's a really striking thing and it might be hard for readers to really grasp the meaning of that, but, there's actually, if you go to the bottom of the story, i link to the clinton ar kw kived e kivarchived, released last year. you can read verify bbatim from 1990s everything covered in those meetings. no comparable record in the trump administration. we may not ever know as a result precisely what was discussed. >> so part of what you write, something that i circled and exclamation point here, the concerns compounded by the actions trump has taken as president dismissing election interference as a hoax, suggesting russia waimea and re

troops, some say advantage to russia. fair to put these things together in one listing as you do because it's a hindsight, greg. it's not as if there was a block of all of these things happening at one time? >> no. this is also one of the things the officials i talked to who expressed real concern about what was happening in these conversations, i mean, people working for trump inside the white house, until very recently saying this was one of our worries. what deals are these guys cutting behind closed doors on syria, for example? before trump even made his decision to pull u.s. forces out of syria. how many times was he prodded by vladimir putin to do just that? you're right. this didn't all happen all at once but the hard to look over the past two years and finds moments when trump himself,

distinction from others in his administration or other officials, is directly critical of russia or putin, or in favor of a policy that goes against russia's interests. >> one thing about this. the president, you know, complained about leaks repeatedly, and in your article you point out that his desire for secrecy may also be driven by the embarrassing leaks that occurred earlier on in his presidency, however, these stories continue to come out, greg. who benefits from this, particularly this story, made public? what might an agenda be for someone who wants to get it out there? >> i think you know, these leaks do continue in this administration and i think to a large measure that's because of how trump treats his subordinates. right? many people in this administration realized that they could be dismissed on any day with an insulting tweet, and not, you know, that loyalty sort of runs in one direction in this

administration, in this white house. he sets himself up for some of this, but i also think it's the seriousness of these issues. it's the seriousness of the concern that people have with trump's relationship and behavior and approach towards russia and in particular towards the russian president vladimir putin. >> take a listen to how the president defended himself specifically last night on fox news. here it is. >> i've been tougher on russia than anybody else, any other -- probably any other president, period, but certainly the last three or four presidents, modern day presidents. nobody's been as tough as i have. >> so do the prez's actions cancel out the concerns? >> i mean, this is a talking point that the white house will often revert to, judge us by our actions not our words. the fact is a lot of those actions were forced on this white house. trump had no desire to implement new sanctions on russia and was forced to sign that big sanctions bill after coming into office by congress.

i mean, they left him no way to veto that and get away with it. and i write about that in my book. he faced aides telling him you will lose this fight if you try to veto these sanctions and you will look weak. i mean, it's true that the united states government in the past two years has taken some steps against russia that have been painful to russia, but president trump has generally not been in favor of those steps. >> interesting detail you write. because of the absence of any record of trump's conversations with putin, relied on reports from those tracking the kremlin for contractireaction from thek explain. >> a huge target for u.s. spy agencies and one thing they try to learn, how did the russians read this meeting that we just had, this session we just had? how are they reacting?

what do you they think won and lost? the weird thing in this case, i was told, that those reports often go back to the white house and presidents in the past would look them over to see how they did, what they accomplished. there's a reluctance to share those with this white house because often they include disparaging comments about the president or his senior aides includi including jared kushner whank. >> what do you take from that? a context what they are? >> we sort of can guess or assume that these are comments by foreign officials -- we've read other stories and coverage of this, actually that suggests figures in the middle east and saudi arabia and so forth believe they have jared kushner in their pocket and put one over on this without and unflattering. we won that exchange. can you believe what we just went through? >> okay. greg miller. heck of a story.

keeping this around for a while. appreciate it. joining me now, andrew card, former white house chief of staff under george w. bush and an nbc political analyst. let's get right into your p perspecti perspective, sir, on this report the president concealed his interactions with vladimir putin. the word unprecedented used a lot. surprising. how do you read it? >> i'd use those words as well. certainly this action is not prudent in what the president is doing. kind of not smart at all. first of all, his own government won't know what to do with the russians. so that means he didn't help the people who have to deal with russians all of the time through their job. didn't help the policymakers understand what direction we should go in, and we don't know what his reaction to what president putin was when they talked. so it's bad on a number of fronts. i think it was -- just foolish on the president's part to do this. i don't think it's an impeachable offense but not

prudent, wasn't smart and doesn't help the president do his job and denies i'm going to say better policy work done by our government in response to the russians. it's troubling on a number of fronts, does it have an affect really on an administration's standard operating procedure, not allowing your top advisers to have access to this kind of information? >> he's violated the normal operating procedures in almost every aspect. it does not surprises me. it really disappoints me and is unfair to the people at the state department or the national security council or even in the chief of staff's office to help understand what was the president trying to accomplish when he met with president putin and what were the russian's reactions to what we wantsed to do? that helps do you a better job. i am troubled on a number of fronts and also think the president was naive in thinking that he has to tighten up the way he did because there have been leaks. i understand the frustration

with leaks in the administration, were ut it doesn't mean you should stop dock the right thing and educate or help educate people that are helping you do a job so they can be better educated to do your job even better. that's what frustrates me. he's not helping his own staff serve him well. >> trump allies suggest, andy, he's trying to built a rapport with putin and can do that better one on one. do you way in? >> every president met with were other foreign leaders one-on-one and it usually doesn't last very long and there's a good read jout from the president himself what was said. i understand wanting to have kind of a, you know, a man-on-man discussion about what it's going on. that doesn't trouble mean as much as not communicating what the discussions were. being debriefed by your staff and sharing that with the people that have to help make policy and implement policy and react to policy that might be coming from a friend or adversary.

so it is troubling on a number of fronts, but not unusual for a president to want to develop a personal relationship, kind of a trusting relationship, with another world leader. i collect president trump for trying to do that. every president tries to do that and certainly you also have to be skeptical in dealing with especially people who are enemies or have been our enemies and i would encourage more skepticism rather than presumption of support. it's doubtful that the russians will help us accomplish anything that isn't in their best interests, and we want to do what's in our best interests. if it complements what the russians needs to do, that's something else. >> andy, you know this follows the bombshell "washington post" report about an inquiry whether the president was working on behalf of russia. how much of a game changer is that reporting in terms of our understanding of the president and this particular administration? >> inconceivable to me that the fbi would have initiated that

action without talking to someone in authority. the attorney general or white house counsel or something. i'm surprised if the story is true and i don't know it is. it may be, i guess. but it's bizarre. it's kind of right out of a novel, and i don't want that to be the case. i do think that president trump is the our president. we want to help him. i certainly want to help him do a good job as president and i think everybody who works in the executive branch of government should be doing that. if there is skepticism with regard to the fbi because they think he may be being used by foreign entities, yes, blow the whistle but i would have thought there's would be guidance from someone beyond their own ranks to initiate something. >> thank you, andy. appreciate you weighing in. that report i last referenced was from the "new york times," not the "washington post." see you soon. one republican with the president's ear has a new idea

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switch to cvs pharmacy. new today, republican senator lindsey graham calling on trump to end the government partial shutdown. the president holding out asking democrats to approve $5.7 billion to build a wall on the u.s./mexico border. graham says the president will not give in and declaring a national emergency will be a last resort. >> before he pulls the plug on

the legislative option, and i think we're almost there, i urge him to open up the government for a short period of time, like three weeks, before he pulls the plug. see if we can get a deal. if we can't end of three weeks, all bets off. do it by himself through emergency powers. >> joining me now, ted deutch, democrat from florida. chair of ethics committee and member of the foreign affairs and judiciary committees. welcome back. good day on this sunday. even if the president takes this advice from senator graham, speaker pelosi won't fund the wall. any guarantee democrats will compromise? >> well, the question is not whether democrats will compromise. the question is whether the president will reopen the government so that 800,000 workers can start receiving their paychecks and can be back to work and whether he's prepared to acknowledge that

shutting down the government in order to try to accomplish, meet a campaign promise that doesn't make sense thas, won't keep us . all republicans and democrats who served down there together say is a terrible idea, whether he's prepared and acknowledge border security is important but work on ways to help advance our security but not at a time when holding all of these workers hostage. >> the pross connect of border security is something i've asked a number of elected officials this weekend. the prospect of technology, lasers, infrareds, the different kinds of things that can be used. is there any hope that could be incorporated in a proposal to the president and say, it's not so much a wall but we would give you money for this? >> right. of course. those discussions have already taken place, and speaker pelosi has made clear that the discussions that she's had on

border security need to focus on ways that will actually work. like recognizing that the large -- the largest percentage of drugs and human trafficking is done at ports of entry, which is why we need to interest in technology along the lines of what you just described. the president -- look, the president made a campaign promise. he said he would build a wall that mexico is going to pay for. he's failed. he's failed, because the mexicans aren't paying for anything and failed because the wall isn't the approach that will help best achieve what he says he want. the biggest problem is, alex, he cannot think he can just throw a tantrum, shut down the government, in order to try to satisfy some percentage of his base. he has to be serious about governing. he isn't. and the preamerican people are paying the price. >> his base, nob everybody who goes through miami airport is a trumpian republican and in fact

that airport closed its terminal to compensate for the shortage of tsa screeners. how much of a disruption has this been and as a result can democrats agree to any wall funding at all just to get everything up and running again? >> i think in this case it's the first i heard about lindsey graham, but i'm glad there are republicans who are now saying he ought to reopen the government. that's what needs to hab right now. it shouldn't require everyone feeling their travel plans impacted. it shouldn't inquire someone getting sick because the fda isn't able to conduct all the food inspections and certainly shouldn't require 40 million americans losing their access to s.n.a.p. benefits, in jeopardy of soon if the president continues this shutdown a. quote from colleague congressman katie hill from california, striking a somewhat different tone. listen to what she said about this. >> i will definitely, i don't

know if it's steal. vote for some money for physical barriers. it's not going to be -- yeah. not across the entire 2,000-mile stretch and certainly not a concrete wall, but it will be part of a package. i can almost bet on it. >> all right. >> so at least some sort of a barrier for some part of the border? your thoughts on that. >> sure. sure. and representative hill is a terrific new member and she's pointing out the fact that we have barriers at points across the border. that's not what this is about. this is about campaign rhetoric to build a wall in places where it makes no sense, where it would not accomplish what the president says his aim is, and that it's only being done for political purposes. the goal when it comes to border security, is border security. the goal is not meeting a campaign promise to build something that won't achieve what the american people expect. and remember, alex, this is all

happening at a time when the cbp agents, the drug enforcement agency, when so many in law enforcement we rely upon to keep us safer aren't being paid because the spread trying to hold them hostage in order to do something political instead of focusing on working with congress to help keep our country safe and get those 800,000 employees back to work, i'm sure you've read the bombshell "washington post" report and heard the conversation with greg miller top of the hour. curious. the fact the president is reported to have concealed details of his conversation with vladimir putin not one a total of five times and not just from the public, even from his own advisers. first of all, the allegations, does that sound plausible and what's your take if they are? >> certainly they sound plausible, if you think, alex, about the meeting he had.

the big summit he where he went out of his way to make sure no one could be in the roomi don't know what it is the president is trying to hide. the democrats on the foreign affairs committee tried to get that information. any information about that summit that took place and unfortunately were blocked by the republican leadership. this time we're proceeding ahead to get it. but what happens in those meetings was the president talking to the putin about easing sanctions against companies tied to putin the friends? like he's not trying to do? was he talking about the attacks he would level against our nato allies, as he's done? was he talking about pulling out of syria in order to satisfy putin? we don't know. it may be that putin congratulated him for going on fox news and in response to criticism of his relationship with putin saying what? america is so innocent? we don't know. it's unheard of for the president to hide this kind of

information. we have a right to know what took place in order to keep our country safe, in order to make sure that the professionals who work in government have the information they need to make good decisions. this is not about the president and his relationship with putin. this is about america and our national security. >> florida democratic congressman ted deutch, always good to speak with you. thank you for joining me on this sunday. >> thank you. the president claims he's tough on russia. looking at actions that raise plenty of suspicions, though. oh unpredictable crohn's symptoms following you? for adults with moderately to severely active crohn's disease, stelara® works differently. studies showed relief and remission, with dosing every 8 weeks.

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you both, sabrina, you, first. is he right that congress needs to know about this? how does this work in terms of checks and balances? >> certainly members of congress will likely ask for a briefing from the relevant individuals, and it is true to also say that if there is a check and balance it's members of congress. so if there is reason for concern that perhaps, any legitimate question even that perhaps the president was working on behalf of the russian government. know lingly or unwittingly. it's up to congress to draft up a formal response. what the report cuts down to is the president repeatedly asking for a desire for improved relations with the u.s. and russia. we saw from helsinki the question important russians interfered in the u.s. election. he opposed more sanctions

against russia and the key question is why? a policy preference or something more going on? that's what this report really gets down to. >> can congress now get information to that access and graham says he would from the fbi director, sabrina? >> members of congress have significant subpoena powers at their disposal. they can certainly request documents or call on witnesses to come before capitol hill. i suspect they will at least ask for a closed-door briefing. i think a lot of information in that report would, of course, be be redacted. at a minimum, house and senate could ask for a briefing. >> when the president was asked if he has ever worked for russia, working currently or in the past, he says it's the notice insulting thing he's ever been asked. what do you think of that response? >> it was a yes or no question and he didn't say yes or no. it's really telling the fact he couldn't directly answer the question, are you a russian

asset? he's the president of the united states. you think that would be a really easy no to come out of his mouth and it didn't. he said he was insulted by the question. obvious to a lot of people for a long time he has a kind of confusing relationship with putpoo putin that's not normal, that other presidents have not had and my guess putin has the reality mueller needs to prove that trump was colluding with him and that's what he has hanging over his head and trump now is trying to weigh whether putin is more of a threat to him or mueller is more of a threat. my guess, former, why he's acting in such favorable ways to russia right now. >> the other big story, you first, laura, on this one. the "washington post" saying the president took particular steps to conceal his private meetings with putin of which there were five. the president denies this. do we know if this is exclusive

to donald trump meetings with putin or if there are others with whom he's met and also keeps private and has no readout from them? >> the report specifically talks about putin and really interestingly it says that trump specifically asked his interpreter to hand over the notes. to not speak about these meetings with other senior members of his own administration. >> from hamburg in 2017. make that point. >> right. it's not just keeping details of putin's meeting from the public but from his own administration. that looks stech s sketchy. makes him look getty. if he's done this with other leaders or ly has something goi with russia. >> from the first time the president met with vladimir putin there was only an

interpreter. and now trump not wanting to reveal what was said even to members of his own administration. even helsinki. members from the white house privy to the meeting between the president and vladimir putin. that's highly unusual even if sitting down with a close u.s. ally must less an adversary who has participated efforts to abend u.s. democracy and the u.s. process here. it's unprecedented. we overuse that word but there's no other word to describe it. democrats in control of the house majority, will they perhaps subpoena documents or witnesses with respect to this report? >> talk about the helsinki meeting. not like a side bar at a g20 dinner where the two exchanged pleasantrie pleasantries. two full hours with zero reporting of what was said.

unprecede unprecedented, right? >> absolutely. so much we don't know about what the president may have discussed with vladimir putin. we know in a number of readouts that the white house has provided they, for example, mention that the president didn't even raise the issue of moscow's efforts to meddle in our elections, and we know also from the mueller investigation that during the course of the campaign there was also some conversation about the potential of building a trump tower in moscow, although that project did not ultimately move forward. there's also a lot we don't know about the president's business dealings in russia and whether that is something that has come up in with conversations with vladimir putin? some quid pro quo. a lot we'll learn from the mueller and investigations and others we are are not yet aware of. >> thank you, ladies. alexandria ocasio-cortez in

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front-runner for president but for the fact she is too young. joining me now is chris smith. writer of that "vanity fair" article. chris, really? i mean, you know, the presidential run? it's not even two weeks since sworn in. is she, first of all, a kingmaker and potential presidential candidate? >> the constitution prevents her from being an kmactual candidat. she's 29. you got to be 35. the strategist, i'm quoting there, somebody who works for one of the highest profile, most plausible contenders, and, you know when he's talking about the fact that she's incredibly smart. she's got a gift for telling human stories, making complex issues identifiable. she's fearless. she's of a generation that's grown up on social media and she has absolutely no hesitation

about communicating with people that way where some of her older colleagues it comes across as inauthentic and has real substance to her. she's elevated issues like margin's tax rates and a green new deal in a way that's going to force the actual democratic candidates in 2020 to talk about them and contend with her as a factor. >> yeah. i've got to say, a great interview as well. had the pleasure of interviewing her. she's very good. presenting her ideas, in some ways a reminder to never, her interactions on social media particularly with conservatives, you should never heckle someone who's worked as a new york city bartender, as, you know -- >> right. >> can't go toe-to-toe. >> right about that. a green new deal standard fare. inspire add conversation overall about tax rates.

how has she managed to do this? when she's talking about pushing 60%, 70% tax rates and getting people to listen, that's something. >> sure is. it speaks to something david axelrod, you know, the former obama strategist, i talked to for the piece, that axelrod put really well is that ocasio-cortez, congresswoman, is an avatar for a generation of people who haven't seen the political system work terribly well for them. you know? who are open to things like medicaid -- medicare, excuse me, for all. who want to see the income inequality confronted directly with things like higher tax rates on the fabulously wealthy, and, you know, one of the reasons she's shaking up the system and has made such a big splash in such a short period of time is that she's actually following through on the things she talked about in her

campaign. you know? a lot of folks get to washington and then just get swallowed up in the machinery and play the seniority game. she's not interested in that. >> hmm. it is a great article in "vanity fair." love your top slug. should the candidates be sending her bouquets? speaking of the fact she could be a 2020 kingmaker. chris smith, come see me again. thank you. and this week's russia headlines may bring up more talk of impeevement. my opinion panel is going to size that up. g to size that up

in the last hour, a new york federal judge sentencing cohen to three years in prison. >> we're following a number of fast-paced developing stories this morning ♪ are you now or have you ever worked for russia, mr. president? >> i think it's the most unthing i've been asked. most insulting article i've ever had written. >> that was one of the moments from the president's interview last night that is drawing some attention. the interview came on the heels of not one but two explosive reports raising new questions about inrussia. joining me now, adrian elrod and a big welcome because you're now an msnbc contributor. >> thank you, alex. >> dawn callaway and amy. with a welcome to all three of you.

amy, you first. when you look at these reports "the new york times" and "the washington post," at any point does it begin to wear down gop resistance to impeachment talk? >> not at all. in fact, you know, it's a shame because we have actually had quite successful last two years. we've had the amount of regulations go down, our unemployment numbers are at an all-time great in the last 50 years. we have even passed tax reform. there's so many positives. i think really the american public, along with the republican party, is just really tired of, this. it needs to wrap up. >> dawn, do you see these reports playing into the democrat's plans to increase oversight, investigations, maybe even the impeachment debate? >> it all helps. it all strengthens the case. you have to remember that "the new york times," "the washington post," nbc news, these are professional news organizations. people are not jeopardizing their entire lives and professional careers by making up things.

so these things have some serious validity to it. i watched that interview this morning with janine last night. i watched it this morning. ten minutes of my life i'll never get mback. i started taking notes of things, all the falsehoods and outright lies that were said but the list got so long i just stopped. as opposed to "the new york times" or "the washington post," it felt like state tv. it felt like hugo chavez or chairman mile going on state tv and saying whatever they want regardless of any relationship with veracity and that's really bad for the state of that network, but it's also really bad that the president has no calms whatsoever with getting on tv and w saying things that are flat out false. you can't divorce some successes with the administration from the fact that he lies to the american people everyday. old. etting democrats, adrian. do they have any tools in their arsenal to demand transparency on things like, well, these reported lack of records on any sort of r interactions, conversations with russia or

does it all depend on having to getn cooperation from the administration? >> yeah, alex. it's really hard to reiterate how deeply troubling that washington post piece was today. ish mean, this is the presidentf the united states who is actively tryingte to conceal hi conversations with one of the united states' largest adversaries which is vladimir putin. and i thought mark warner made a good point earlier today, alex, on the sunday show where he said, you know, we have to remember, this goes back to trump's relationship with russia goes back to the 2016 campaign. we will never forget, of course, duringrg the republican nationa convention how paul manafort went out of his way to try to make concessions for -- in the amendments for ukraine. this is going back aor long way. there is some sort of relationship, there's something that putin has on trump or vice versa and i think this story that came out today only reiterates that. the biggest question, of course, becomes will republicans actually defect on trump?

because the votes are there in the house for impeachment, they're not there in the senate. >> do you think any republicans are going to defect, amy? look, the fact is this is unprecedented, surprising, explosive, any number of those adjectives have been used today and by other networks as well. do you find, first of all, this report about the president having five conversations with vladimir putin at which not only is there no record of what was said between them but he actually literally goes to the translator, the linguist in one of them the u.s. translator and says i want those notes. >> sure. well, i hope that none of the republicans odefect, like you said. ike hope that everyone stands firm. you've even had someone in the past, such as senator dianne feinstein said there was no collusion to haver been found that point in the investigation. you have -- >> butin how would we know? how would we know if there's any kind k of collusion or anything

beyond that because there's no record? >> well, it's also understandable to a degree, while transparency is important, i don't think that we, the american public, need to know every single detail. now we do know it's been reported that former secretary of state rex tillerson did have some of the notes because he had issued out a shortened memo of one of those memos. >> that was the hamburg one in 2017. >> uh-huh, correct. so there are certain advisers who are well aware of these conversations, but i honestly cannot blame this president. this president has been lied to. this president cannot trust hardly anyone that's around him unfortunately. and along with the assistance of the majority of the mass media, constantly trying to turn his words, twist his words and use them to embarrass him. >> look, i'm going to ask two democrats here, is there some legitimacy to what amy in saying

the way there have been leaks. >> no. >>e i i'm going to tamp down o everything, don. >> i'm just so disturbed. go back to the beginning of your point, amy, you hope no republicans defect. if there's a prima facie case this president, his minions, his people worked with russia, destroyed notes, disregarded protocol, i would hope that republicans would do what senator john mccain said would putid country first and defect. i would defect from my democratic case. >> i would hope if the fbi has found that there's no collusion or cooperation that they issue a public apology to this president. >> adrian, quickly, give me your thoughts. >> i'm with don on this. this is a self-manufactured crisis. the intelligence community, president trump does not trust them. that's t deeply troubling for sitting president of the united states. >> i got to go. good to see all three of you as always. >> you, too. california democrat said she would vote for a barrier. that's ahead. er that's ahead was only 16% italian.

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we are at the top of the hour which means i'm out of time. i'm welcomes whit. up next, morgan ratford. >> thank you to you and everyone out there happy sunday to you, i'm morgan radford right here in new york city. concealing conversations, accusations that president trump took notes from translators during private meetings with vladimir putin. both senior white house officials and state department officials left in the dark. this 24 hours