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excursion when the shutdown is over. postponing the public relations event is inaprop ret. the president added the speaker could fly commercial if she chooses to afghanistan. the first public response after more than 24 hours of silence after her suggestion trump delay his state of the union address or deliver it in writing due to the shutdown. in a statement, a spokesman for pelosi said the stop in brussels was for pilot rest to meet with noto officials and the trip didn't include a stop in egypt. the statement added the purpose of the trip was to ebs press appreciation and to our men and women in uniform for their service and dedication and obtain critical national intelligence briefings from thoz on the front lines. the effects played out in real time. the air force bus carrying

members expected to accompany pelosi on the trip returned to the capitol short laafter it was scheduled to depart this afternoon. at the pentagon the president accused the speaker of preventing moderate democrats from working with him. >> while many democrats in the house and senate would like to make a deal, speaker pelosi will not let them negotiate. >> "new york times" reports he's told a different story inside the white house. he told acting chief of staff quote we are getting crushed. while watching news coverage he added why can't we get a deal? joining me right now is representative of the u.s. virgin islands. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times." former deputy national security adviser to president obama.

and former republican congressman from florida no longer affiliated with that party. peter, the way that major papers are playing this is a power struggle between the president and the speaker. all using the shield of concern for the federal employees. but this is politics, isn't it? >> the speaker was maybing a point yesterday when she says maybe you shouldn't give the state of the union while the government is partially shutdown. that's her power pefrp. she owns the house chamber and up to her whether she has the president come down or not. he has the -- he controls the military air fleet and basically pulled it out from under heir as she was going to go over to afghanistan. and so i think senator lindsey graham, who's been mostly an ally of the president said both sides were being sophomore. certainly they're not getting any closer to a genuine negotiation. it's hard to see how it's gotten

us any closer to a deal. >> ben, you know the facts here. lot of these facts must be jumping out at you like the nature of this, the fact it was going to afghanistan. hardly a pleasure trip for the paris air show. they weren't bringing their spouses with them. you know a real one, verses a junket. this was not a junket. >> this is actually an insult to the american taxpayer. because congress has to fund to the tune of billions of dollars our efforts in afghanistan and nancy pelosi as speaker, it's part of her job to go there on front lines and get briefings from generals as she makes decisions because she holds the power of the purse in congress. and so what president trump is doing is canceling a really critical part of her responsibilities as speaker of the house to check in with our men and women on the front lines too, show our support and try to understand the nature of the war in afghanistan and to pull the

plug is deeply irresponsible and abuse of his powers. >> they were in the bus heading to joirnt base andrews. he made them look like fools sitting in the capitol at the drive wair. he caught them in the act as if they were sneaking out of town and made them look stupid. it looked like a political dirty trick to me. >> when we were in office, we would never, ever have thought of interfering with a congressional delegation, particularly one to a war zone that's critically important. all kinds of republican critics travelled to war zones while president obama was in office and that was an important property of their responsibilities. i'm trying to imagine the discussion in the white house where they say we have to get pelosi back and someone is scouring the schedule and somehow thinks it's a good idea to embear this s the speaker of house and deny that respect from

the third ranking person in line to the presidency. it's really sophomoric and sends a horrible message to the world watching the shutdown and now they see the president of the united states literally blocking the speaker of the house and the representatives from going to afghanistan. >> it looks bad. anyway the white house insisted trump's letter was not a response to pelosi's state of the union addressleter. politico reports that day-long lapse in response was intentional. quoting a white house official who said trump decided to hit back on his terms and timeline. deciding to wait morthan a day. why does it merit an under or soorer serious response? it's heir suggestion. here she goes. >> they're professionals. they trained for this. they should be paid for this.

the date of the state of the union is not a sacred date, it's not constitutionally required. it's not anything. it is a date that we agreed to. >> congresswoman, this doesn't looking good for our country. >> i think spooker pelosi's letter was to tell the president that this may not be a good time for us to have it unless we come to an agreement and because of security issues related to having a sta having state of the union while many people are furloughed and security is being stretched. she has given the president time. i mean the state of the union was not set for a set specific date. and so the president had time. all members of congress will be back tuesday, will be able to continue the negotiations and it's not as if the president has called us into a meeting to continue the negotiations. at the same time the president, less than 24 hours specifically on the same day that travel is

occurring decides how inadvertently or coincidentally to drop this letter on her the day after her letter to him is not lost on anyone. >> as the plane was about to take off. minority leader mccarthy of california backed up the president's maneuver today. >> i think government is shutdown right now. an opportune time we can work and get government back open. why would she want to go overseas with government shut down? >> the pity of this guy. >> the one thing i was saying is the hypocrisy of that is there has been republican codels in the same time period -- >> trump's been to iraq during this shutdown. >> the president has been in war zones. the speaker, nancy pelosi, did not stop them from going on codels which she could have done by calling us and making us stay in. so this is totally partisan on their part.

>> blasted both the president and the speaker of the house in his statement today. lindsey graham wrote one sophomoric response does not deserve another. speaker pelosi's threat to cancel the state of the union. she's not canceling it, is blatantly irresponsible. and trump denying military travel to visit our allies and afghanistan is inappropriate. the congress seems to have lost some of its class. i think pelosi looked smart yesterday. i think the president looks cheap today. this looks like some old british comedy. it doesn't look good for our country. >> look, pelosi's decision yesterday had a bit of a historic impact, if you will. it's a big deal to post pone a state of the union. donald trump's decision did look petty. i've been involved with congress the last 25 years worth of

government shutdowns, starting in 1995. there comes a point in which you're low in medium and intensity voters look at washington and say they're behaving like idiots. this is that week. there is no urgency to the state of the union address, nor is there urgency to speaker pelosi's trip to afghanistan. she can wait until february and donald trump can wait until february. the urgency is around reope thing government and at some point people stop looking at the two parties and say they're all behaving like children. get to work and solve this. we get you don't like each utter. ewoo pay you to solve problems. i think this is the turning point this week for the american people. >> let me talk about how the hard news is going to reperted. he's responsibility for the government to work and in the end he proved that by saying i can stop you from flying on any

air force plane i want to. therefore, isn't there a corlaer he's responsible for the government being shut down. isn't the heat on him? >> well, unfact most polls show that people do in fact blame him more than congressional democrats. there is an attitude on washington in general. but when there are parseling out blame among all the people who should be pocksed, whose houses should be, it's mostly majority to president trump and he said himself early on he would own this shutdown. >> he -- i'm sorry. your paper reported today he says i'm getting crushed. he seems to have acknowledged, according to yourb paper's reporting, he told his chief of staff we're losing this thing. just to peter first. >> i think he miscalculated in the sense that he thought he

could pressure nancy pelosi into caving in earlier than we have seen. there would have been a relatively quick shutdown and once the speaker -- new speaker came in and took power, they'd come to a deal. neither side is moving and doesandoe doesn't seem any imperative to move. >> government has a lot of responsibilities over safety, security, over food, all kinds of things, airplane travel. we have air traffic controllers, federal employees, all those people under stress now financially, in addition to the stress that comes with being a air traffic controller or -- >> any position where they're on furlough and the house has voted nine times to get government open. one person we have not discuss second degree the person hiding nad blanket and that's senator mitch mcconnell that has not

taken the bills that congress passed and brought them to the floor of the senate to then bring them to the presidents. he is the stop gap right now for the president and the man standing in the way of having a directly in front of the presidents the bills that congress has passed that say let's open a government and have a serious discussion and debate about border security. we want to solve border security. that's in everyone's interest. how much it costs and where it goes is the debate. but let's not hold the american people hostage while that happens. >> you've beinside. if you were the great mediator, the great decider, could you sit with the president and nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell and work out a deal in this heat? could you do it? in this heat? >> i think everybody knows there is some compromise to be had on border security. the fact is trump's proposal doesn't make any sense.

5 billion is an arbitrary number. >> pelosi's proposal is zero. >> because why give $5 billion to build a wall and we don't think a wall is the right answer as democrats. >> but you do believe in border security and don't believe in open borders. you're not for letting the wall just fall down not to have a border. so what's the right way to police the border? >> we've given 1.6 billion already that we've authorized. >> what is the right thing to do so we stop talking about the border? >> there is not a crisis there. border crossings are way down. >> i know that because that's only because of the cycle. >> you take the bill that already passed the senate unanimously and has now passed the houses. you pass that, reopen the

government and then you have a negotiation on how much to put to technology, coast guard. what you don't do is have a president that's chosen to manufacture a crisis to keep a political promise that he said originally was going to be paid for by mexico and holding 800,000 workers hostage. get them paid, back to work j a dis cushion like rational adults about how we're going to fund border security. you don't take the funding for the entire government, especially when they voted for divided government. they voted to have a democratic house of representatives. donald trump had two years with republicans in charge and didn't pass this funding for the wall. so people can see this for what it is. it's a political stunt. we need get the government open and then have this discussion about border security and democrats can say we're willing to compromise but not on the backs of the 800,000 american.

>> well analyzed and well prezernted and i mean that. and u.s. congresswoman on the virgin islands. i love that place. and david jolly and who have i forgotten? no one. coming up let's watch rudy. >> is it still the position of you and your client there was no collusion whatsoever on behalf of the trump campaign? >> correct. >> wow. we got them with the prompter now and this is him right now. >> i never said there was no collusion between the campaign. >> and how does he explain that massive flip-flop? he ever said. he's been arguing for months there's been no collusion and does it indicate another shoe is about to drop? is rudy anticipating they have the goods on collusion. ollusion

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welcome back to "hardball." the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, and -- >> i never said there was no culugsz between the campaign or people in the campaign. >> yes, you did. >> no, i didn't i said the president of the united states. there's no evidence that he conspire would the russians to hack the dnc. >> both giuliani the president categorically denied anybody in the trump campaign colluded with the russians. >> is it still the position of you and your client that there was no collusion with the russians whatsoever on behalf of the trump campaign? >> correct. >> there has been no collusion between the trump campaign and russians or trump and russians. no collusion.

>> i know from having been on the campaign that there was no contact with russians, no discussions with russians. >> the entire thing has been a witch hunt and there's no collusion between certainly myself and campaign. >> three main issues. one is was there collusion? come on. nobody believes there was collusion. >> there was no collusion between the trump campaign and the russian people. the there is no collusion between me and my campaign and the russians. >> well, this is it the latest in the series of evolving denials from team trump. and the first time trump's own lawyer is acknowledging the posn possibility someone in the campaign might have colluded. now he says i can speak only to the president, not campaign. i only speak to the president. he added i have no knowledge that anyone colluded but

obviously i can't speak for everyone in the campaign. well, that's new. a former u.s. attorney and a columnist with the "washington post." i want to start with joyce in this. because i keep thinking rico time. if they're going to basically say he never had a phone call with anybody. by the way rudy, who says he didn't do it personally, someone may have done it for him, he and the other lawyers are saying we can't talk about what the president said to somebody. so basically blocked out the mere possibility they could ever catch the president in the act because they're not going to talk about what he said to somebody because that's executive privilege and if somebody else did it, it's not his fault. they seemed to have explained away, defined away the possible guilt of the president. >> and of course they're wrong here. this is it the same defense every guy at the top of the chain in a drug case tries. i never actually sold drugs, federal government.

so you can't prosecute me. and of course prosecutors are skilled at getting phone conversations and understanding who's giving the orders and who's benefitting from whatever's going on with the criminal activity and that's how these cases are made and that's how the guy at the top of the organization gets prosecuted every time. giuliani knows this, it's so it's disingenuous to say trump was at a box at the top of the campaign and didn't know what his underlings were going on. that's contrary from everything we've heard from trump who says he knew absolutely everything that everyone was doing. >> giuliani has prosecuted mob cases. that's how it works. the top guy doesn't give orders because he doesn't want to have anybody testify against him ever. >> that's absolutely right. they insulate themselves, or so they think, from liability and that works well until one of

their lieutenants turns on them and testifies or the feds have a wire tap and have been listening to their phone calls or in this day and age, emails, text messages and even tweets. >> you get different voices after 9:00 and different this morning. so the night before doesn't sound the same as the next morning. from a journalism point of view is they've changed their story >> yeah. rudy giuliani can be all over the map. but sort of randomness can't explain that big of a departure from the stora. the official line is there was no collusion. how could you think there was any collusion? you're a bad person for madging there could have been and now they're like, oh, what i never said the word collusion. of ocourse there might be collusion. >> are they cutting people loose? >> i think they're preparing to. that's the question.

who was in the meeting? donald trump jr., manafort, jared kushner were unthin that meeting. >> giuliani's reversal and collusion comes after mueller filed a heavily redacted memo in the manafort case detailing what he knows about manafort's outreach. that was accompanied by 150 pages of exhibits. they're all blocked. only to special counsel and manafort's lawyers know what's contained in the documents. we know "new york times" has reported that manafort's legal team had long kept trump's lawyers abrs. abreast. rudy got the word. >> does he know what's in those redacted portions of the documents? even if you don't know what's in the redacted portion of those

documents, of the main document that was filed the other day, you can just read what year allowed to read and you can kind of fill in the blanks and conclude manafort is up to his eye balls with the russians and he was the chairman of the campaign. so maybe it is time to change the story. >> in terms of your experience here the trouble we have, the political over lay, two politicians involved. rudy giuliani and the president. i don't think they're luir like share delicate information. i may be exposed here and there to rudy giuliani. but you have to do to your lawyer and tell him or her what your trouble might be? >> that's the usual relationship. that's why the attorney/client privilege exists so the client can tell the lawyer absolutely everything they've been involved in, including criminal conduct

and the lawyer can come up with the best defense strategy forthem. but the way giuliani and trump operate drives home the fact this is not a legal strategy. it's a political one. it's designed to hang on to the base so there won't be a powerful enough voice in the country calling for impeachment. i think that's really giuliani's whole goal. anytime there's a new big shoe about to drop, giuliani somehow shows up on a television show someplace and fronts out the news. and we've gotten into the habit of thinking he's nuts, just making these crazy statements. i've started to believe in reality what he's doing is immunizing folks. sort of giving this inoculation so by the time the story drops, they've heard it before, they're a little numb to it and there's not wide-spread out cry. >> in the spanish bull fight, who's the steer to calm things down. exactly.

meanwhile "vanity fair" says rudy hates the job. trump is really hard to deal with. these personalities are something. reading into the personalities and behavior. here's rudy coming out, just protecting the president. forget the outer walls. we're not defending all the other characters in this. that's one of a statement. i'm not defending anybody out there. just me. >> it's all about his client. his client is the president. i mean that's very clear is his concern the president. i think joyce is right. this is a political strat ag, not a legal strategy. if he holds on to 80% of republicans or whatever, then he holds on to enough republican senators to save his job in the event he's impeached. we're down to that.

>> i remember a phrase both of you from reading about the alamo and how davy crocket and the others how in the end when they're overwhelmed by thousands on the santa an aa they retreated to what was -- it was like one little room they could defend. that's all they could defend. i think that's where this case has gone. it's good to have you on. still ahead did donald trump tell micha michael cohen to manipulate polls to look like he was a winner? that's a dirty trick, don't you think? fooled a lot of conservatives. cohen said he did. he's admitting this stuff. this is "hardball" where the action is. this is "hardball" where the action is. ♪tryin' to hold back this feeling for so long♪

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welcome back to "hardball." michael coh was trump's former fixer as well. according to the "wall street journal," cohen paid a digital firm roughly $13,000 in cash in a walmart bagging to help boost the campaign. and michael cohen tweeting what i did was at the direction of and for the sole benefit of

donald trump. i truly regret my blind loyalty to a man that doesn't deserve it. that's cohen on the record. cohen also helped strike a deal with david picker, the parent company of the nation enquirer to catch and kill any negative information about the president while amplifying negative stories about trump's opponents and helped pay stormy daniels $130,000 to keep her allegation she had a affair with trump quiet. i'm not sure it's under the air of national security but it is certainly under intelligence. $13,000, apparently part of a pay-up of more. what was he up to in the beginning? >> it's not clear trump ordered this. cohen said trump knew about it but cohen was trying to manipulate on-line polls.

he wanted to try to boost trump's image. cohen got expense reimbursements for $50,000 and only paid the guy $13,000. and there's potential some of this was an undisclosed campaign contribution. >> so trump was paying for fake news? >>ious. >> they haven't charged a crime. so key with assume -- >> that 13,000 in cash, that wasn't michael cohen's money, was it? >> trump latter reimbursed cohen. >> last hour an adviser to michael cohen said his client is considering whether to go forward with his plan to testify. take a look. >> he's considering whether to go forward in light of the concerns about his family. my guess is he won't labully silence him. but he is still considering whether to do this or not.

>> what do you think he's worried about tonight? >> first of all he's going to testify that donald trump ordered him to commit a crime essentially. this is under lights of a televised congressional hearing. and then -- >> hundreds of pay offs to the women, which were campaign contributions. >> according to michael cohen, ordered by donald trump. >> i might ask any other dirt you got on him. >> absolutely. you can assume they've been doing business like this for years. >> howmany other women? >> it's not illegal to pay women. so now -- and we've never had an intimate of donald trump come openly and talk about how he does business, what his priorities were. i think this could be devastating hearing this next month with muccichael cohen.

>> he frequently boosted online polls. alternatively he bashed any poll that showed him behind. watch. >> you know they give you phoney polls, folks. i don't believe the polls anymore. these are called dirty polls. you know what that is. i don't believe those polls, by the way because both of those pollsters do not like me, i'm telling you. now i'm not saying anything that goes on elicitly with polling, okay. i would never, ever say that. >> so there he is admitting it. >> you can extrapolate this to the microtargeting on social media. >> before trump falls to sleep at night, what's he worried about from cohen? >> i think it's the soecrets an

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welcome back to "hardball." it took 24 hours but today president trump responded to nancy pelosi to delay the state of the union. instead he informed the speaker he was grounding her military transport to afghanistan. the "washington post" reports

that trump has pulled back his punches. when he pulled his punches because quote the president believes she would help protect him from impeachment and considers her more reasonable than other democrats. white house reporter for "axios. kwaet "and nbc news and "vigil." who's winning? >> sorry, who's winning what? >> this fight. >> the shutdown? >> yes. >> the polling suggests trump is losing support, even among some of his own voters. even the poll which is heavily weighted towards republicans has been slipping. but this question of winning or losing, there was stories speculating this slight crater in trump's base will change

their calculus. i'm speculative. and if he caves, that's at the forefront of his mind. >> she's as tough as she k34 cans. she'll use whatever power she has. >> here's what's different? he's not used to it. this is the first time he's had a congressional leader push back on him in punishment and use those powers. she's shown him from the very beginning when she would correct him in the oval office. she compared the wall to his manhood. she's embarrassed him and now talken away something that was really important to him. he wanted to use that state of the union address to punish democrats and beerate them over the wall. and she took that away from him. it's unclear what his end goal was other than just rote retaliation in terms of taking away codel trip.

because it doesn't get him anywhere closer. it's clear she took a piece out of him in terms of taking away the state of the union. doesn't leave us any closer to a resolution. >> and he's got rush limbaugh and ann coulter from one side, pelosi from the other. as kelly o'donnell said she just said this is existential with trump. if he loses the wall, he loses the presidency. >> and it's easy for people to forget when they're looking at this that basically his administration signed off on keeping the government running last year. vice president mike pence thread s senate to believe that's what was going to happen and when ann coulter said he was going to pay a political price, he turned around and saidno, i can't sign bill. >> cohen is going to testify unpublic.

it seems that's going to tlauk evangelicals. this is his fixer talking. all those women, whatever who's done in his last 20 years, this guy knows all the dirt. >> are you really thinking it's going to shake his evangelical support? i think after "acsis hollywood" when they heard trump himself on tape say those things, i don't think a michael cohen testimony is going to effect his evangelical base. >> faking polls. that's to the heart of democracy. who's buying cheap, lying polls. >> and that's in addition to other circumstantial elements we've seen on cucanlutioollusio everyone to roger stone and giuliani previewing wikileaks. we don't know the big question which is what did trump know?

was this his campaign and everyone underneath him potentially had some kind of communications with the russians that he didn't know about? and that is the big -- >> cohen i thought all along -- >> campaign manager. >> you do listen to the boss all the time. you listen to his constant worries,all most his popeye worries. cohen was there for all those worries. he would have heard everything -- you're giving me the surmising look but i think politicians talk around their staff. >> for sure not only was he listening, he was taping. >> go on. >> we don't know how many tops he has. we don't know what all of the things he has will say and what mueller has and what the members of congress are going to find out about. but not only does cohen have testimony but we know he has at least some back up of testimony. i think this show is going to be

very fascinating because michael cohen informs tire strategy is a public relations strategy, basically. he wants to be seen as the guy throwi throwing trump under the bus. he wants to live in manhattan who is something other than guy who went along with trump the entire way. for him this is an opportunity to do so. >> this is chuck collison going to prison reform. this is the inside bad guy turning 180 saying now i'm a good guy because i'm going to screw this guy. and as foreign policy magazine writes. incoherent presidential tweets and remarks have created confusion across the middle east. even as trump talks about pulling out of syria, his

national security advisor, john bolton raised the specter of attacking airan. they asked the pentagon to provide the white house with military options to strike iran last year, generating concern at the state department. the one reason i looked kindly on trump was he talked about no more stupid wars. and i have to wonder why he brought bolton in, m mr. neoconwho's been saying we have to go to iran for years. is it him? erdogan? rand paul? john bolton? >> i think you put your finger on something which is trump's foreign policy is contraductory. he is withdrawing ground forces from syria. i spoke to rand paul. sounds like trump is keen on getting them out of afghanistan as well. one of the early disputes he had with mattis is trump kept asking

for plans to blow up iranian boats in the persian gulf, iranian fast boats and mattis disagreed with that. and bolton did request targets inside iran for strikes, as retaliation for this iranian proxy group. mattis thought it would evscalae what was a non-state conflict to a state conflict. >> it's not a country carved up by the brits. it's a real country with real history going way back. it's still there. >> and to your point i think one of the most striking parts of the reporting in that story to your point of contradictions and who's in charge was that president may not have even been aware in the beginning that it was with bolton and at least in the initial stages the president wasn't even aware of it. >> do you think this president

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he famously tried to work on the middle east problem unsuccessfully. >> the quartet. >> the quartet. >> i am proud to announce i actually got the exclusive that every reporter in this town has been looking for with the former defense secretary james mattis. >> wow. >> in the most obvious of places. in between the women's racks at nordstrom. i was there this week, i looked up and there was james mattis. hoowas surprised. the one thing i can share with you is that even though he did pen that letter that i think raised expectations that maybe he's ready to dish some time soon about his experiences in that white house, he assured me that is not happening anytime soon and i'm talking potentially years. that was the word he used to me. >> nancy pelosi not going to

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it's because the same chief executive's power he showed in grounding the speaker's plane is it the same he showed in grounding the american government. he is the one getting blamed and he is the one the buck stops with. and that's "hardball " tonight on "all in." >> i'm a really great negotiator. >> the trump shutdown continueses. >> i am proud to shut down the government. >> as the president cancel as democrat trip to a war zone. >> to canc altrip the speaker was making to a war zone was completely and utterly irresponsible. >> this is the president essentially being a man bobby. >> as the suffering from the trump shutdown continues. >> maybe he thinks it's