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the jokes and the games and probably the toys he would've made for them. >> reporter: they never got a chance to roll their eyes at a jim joke, huh? >> yeah. >> reporter: that's all for this edition of dateline.
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how was charles manson able to exert his rampage that would make him one of the most
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notorious figures in criminal history? here's chris morrison with manson. >> april 14th, 2016. a clear blustery day in the high desert outside los angeles. inside the walls of the california ips tugs for women, a gray haired 66-year-old inmate appears before a parole board as he has done many times before, but this time something remarkable. >> a parole board panel is recommending the release of former charles manson member. >> a name linked with one of the most famous crimes in history. charles manson. ? you don't understand me, that's your trouble. i don't understand you either.
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the story of charles manson is buried in archives, memorialized in media and yet somehow it feels present. that hot summer night that caught the world unprepared. when los angeles became suddenly a very scary place. it was august 9th, 1969 around 8:00 a.m. officer was a young cop with the lapd working the day shift. >> the first call i got was to go to the drive. it came out as a drunk in a car. >> the officer cruised up the canyon. and found the dead end street. a neighbor flagged him down and suddenly, the drunk in a car call became something else. >> he had told me that the maid
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came running back out, yelling blood and bodies. >> all alone, nosed his squad car up the gated driveway. he could see right away things weren't right. >> the telephone wires that had been cut are hanging over the gate. i go through the gate and there's a car parked in the driveway. >> in the car he found a body. >> he had been shot and i walk around the front of the location and there were two more bodies on the lawn. >> then backup arrived and they went into the house. and found a scene horrible in a way that would go down in history. there was a young woman. >> there are multiple stab wounds on her and there is a thick rope that was wrapped around her neck. >> and something else, the young
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woman was pregnant. eight months pregnant. she'd been stabbed repeatedly. it was a blood bath. >> have you ever seen such a thing before? >> no, it was horrendous. >> he saw a guest house near the swimming pool. he and a second officer went to check it out and inside they found a young man alive. >> i thought this -- this guy knows something. >> 19-year-old said he was the caretaker. he told him that he knew nothing, had seen nothing and knew nothing. >> with all all the screaming and the gunshots and all the fighting. >> how could he not hear it. >> i thought so. they walked by the bodies in the
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front lawn. >> he didn't seem shocked? >> no, not at all. >> he was take ton the station house to book him and the detectives arrived and the coroners and of course the press. >> at 8:30 this morning chatman, an employee came to work at 1005 and found several bodies in the house. >> the lapd didn't share the awful details or that the phone wires had been cut so no one could call for help or an american flag draped over the couch or that someone had written in blood one word, pig. >> do you have any suspects at all? >> no. >> the lapd wasn't safing much.
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>> who would know that fear would spread so fast. choke what was left of innocence, but that night the main thing no one knew was, what was started on cielo drive wasn't over. >> coming up, there was still another big shock to come. the identities of the victims. >> my boyfriend called my mother and he had heard five people were dead and it was rumored to be the house of sharon tate. >> when date line continues. ta. >> when date line continues. have a skincare routine. but what about a lip care routine? pay your lips some attention. the chapstick total hydration collection. exfoliate nourish naturally enhance your lips. chapstick. put your lips first. i had this chest cold, but my medicine kept wearing off. (coughs) ah! i missed you! then i discovered mucinex. one pill lasts 12 hours, and i'm good.
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it was maybe a frenzy, 1969 style, recorded on 16 millimeter film. >> we have a weird homicide with two bodies inside, two bodies outside. >> but word of mouth had skewed the awful truth by the time 16-year-old debra tate heard it. >> my boyfriend called my mother and he had heard that there was a fire in benedict canyon and it was rumored to be the house of sharon tate. >> sharon tate, debra's big
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sister. sharon tate's biggest film, vool le of the dolls was two years behind her already. now 26 she was known less for her acting than for her beauty, her style and her husband. director had recently shot to frame with rose mary's baby in which a woman discover she may be expecting a child. >> she was so terribly excited like a new mom to be creating the nice little home nest for the family to welcome the new life. >> and now debra, frantic to learn what happened to her sister pressed her panic stricken mother. >> tell me what. >> she must have been -- >> oh, she was out of her mind crazy. grief like you could not imagine.
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>> reporter: but it was no mistake and the murders already gruesome now took on the trappings of celebrity. >> this was at the home of movie drerkt tor and it was his wife sarn tate who was one of the victims. >> 25-year-old abigail fall jer, it was her body officers saw on the front yard. beside her was her boyfriend, a sometime actor and old friend of roman's inside the house next to sharon the man with a towel over his head was a famous hairdresser. >> he had been sharon tate's boyfriend. >> they'd remained friends and sharon tate had invited sebring over that evening. >> one of the sad ironies is
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that jay was not supposed to be there that night. he was supposed to be in las vegas and for whatever reason he decided to stay. >> the body in the car turned out to be steve parent. he went out to his car at just the wrong moment, never got out of the driveway. l.a. struggled to understand. why would anyone kill all these people and why in such a sadistic manner? the lapd searched for clues in the surrounding brush among the neighbors as of course the ever growing army of reporters. >> the lights weren't on and usually the gate lights are on at least. >> strange despite all the carnage, no real clues. though there was this one thing. >> it was revealed that a small amount of narcotics was found in
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the sports car of sebring. >> some pot and hash were found in the house too and so now police and the press began to wonder, could the murders have something to do with the lifestyles that sharon and her fabulous friends lived? the director found himself in front of the camera defending his wife. >> sharon not only didn't use drugs, she didn't touch alcohol, she didn't smoke cigarettes. >> all sharon was thinking about was her bay bay. the bay di thby that died with . >> there's a lot of blood all over the place. >> and the killings were somehow connected to the horror movie. this time a representative spoke for him. >> sharon and all other three
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friends were rational people. >> the news liked to try to pin on sharon and her friends, you know, the drugs, sex, rock 'n roll, devil worshipping. >> horrific, yes. all those ugly theories. >> there was this kind of gossip subtext that these people brought this on themselves. these people were engaging in drugs. tragically they were played off oz a form of a morality tale. >> drugs? orgies? there was no stopping the gossip, but if anyone believed it then what happened next made no sense at all. >> coming up. >> everybody is petry fied. where are they going to stroik next? >> and then someone does. >> i felt that there was an immediate connection.
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welcome back. the unsolved murders of sharon tate and her friends sent the rumor mill churning. because the director had directed the horror film rose
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mary's baby. now a second attack was about to send the media in overdrive with shock waves traveling through the hollywood hills and beyond. here's keith morrison with manson. >> reporter: nearly 24 hours after this truly whorrific crim, it had the police baffled. >> and then it happened again. >> the bodies of a man and his wie wife found in their home. repoeted stab wounds. >> did you know the people in this home? >> i've known these people for 30 years. >> rose mary and lino, rose mary's children found them, the scene as awful as the ones in the scene on cielo drive.
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rose mary had a lamp cord and her neck. he had been stabbed. overkill would be an understatement. and again, just as it was at sharon tate's house, the murder scene seemed almost art directed to elicit fear. >> a fork was jammed into the abdomen and left sticking there. >> painted in blood on one wall was the word, rise. an another, death to pigs. and on the refrigerator, helter skelter. like the song from the beatles album. >> the word war had been carved in the chest. >> these were brutal killings. >> in the mid of of the night showing up with knives, stabbing
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people multiple times. even when they were dead things that the police had never seen before. >> the killers seemed to have no conscience. >> they culledkilled a husband wife calmly autosome food and left. >> l.a. brace itself for the next wave especially after a suspect was released. >> there's an immediate city wide panic. >> they closed their windows, locked their doors. >> gun stores sell out. guard dogs who are going for $200 a piece are now selling for $5,000. everybody in los angeles is petrified. where are they going to strike next. >> >> hollywood was even scared.
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and roman started getting paranoid thinking it was someone among his peers. >> it was like a small nuclear device had gone often and they needed to make sense and try to make sure they were not involved in this. >> the murders had to be related. >> i felt that there was an immediate connection. so did everybody in my family. >> why did you think it was a connection? >> because of the writing on the wall. that was the main thing. >> officer jerry who was working the taped crime scene thought so too. >> i had heard about some of the conditions that were at the location at the house and i thought to myself, i wonder if this is connected some way. the blood on the wall, the stabbing. >> so your mind went there pretty well right away. >> yeah. >> but it did not seem that way
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to the lapd. the department assigned a team of decks to investigate the tate murders. they assigned another set to the the second murder. problem was, they didn't work together. >> they didn't like each over. they didn't get along very well and they didn't exchange information for months. so each of those murders was pursued separately. >> detectives acknowledge the crime scenes looked similar but the middle class folks they didn't hang out with movie stars and coffee heiresss. >> they may have used the same technique to slow police off the track. >> the media was quick to say hey, these two crimes look similar and the police were
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quick to say no, it's copy cat because what would one have to do with the other? it didn't make sense on the surface. >> was it a work place dispute? a robbery turned violent? even as they looked for murderous drug dealers. both cases stayed open and the terror lingered that lalt summer of '69. >> it seemed like it went on forever. >> nevwould find out. >> the killers were hiding in plain sight t. all it would take was a chance encounter between two unlikely characters in an l.a. jail to
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two years after hippies rocked the summer of love los angeles was a city paralyzed with fear. seven victims plus the unborn baby had been massacred during a merciless two day killing spree. detectives or stymied. whatever was responsible remained a mystery. buzz a game changing jailhouse confession. here again is keith morrison with manson. >> it was still hat in l.a. but the police investigation of the grizzly umurders with us ic cold. not a lead in sight. then in october a woman widely known on the hollywood circuit
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found ners in the jail. she knew people. once even dated frank sinatra. this wasn't her first fling with the law. >> i was there for a violation of probation. >> so that's where virginia was when she met a young woman who was not like the other inmates. >> she was very pretty, very friendly, doing cart wheels in fact, up and down the aisle. >> the woman's name was susan atkins. virginia was intrigued. >> i casually asked her one day what she was there for and this is when she said murder. >> susan told virginia she'd been accused of killing a guy months earlier, but then she went on bragging that the cops didn't know a fraction of what she side really done. >> she said those murders of
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benedict canyon. you know who did it, don't you? and i looked at her and i said no, i don't and her words to me well, you're looking at her. >> and she confessed to the crime the whole nation was talking about. enthusiastically described the killing in all their blood curdling detail. >> sharon tate begged her, please don't kill me. and she said, she looked at her eye to eye and said bitc chrks, i don't care if you're going the have a baby or not, i'm going to kill you. >> she told her they were part of a group. >> the very fact that there were going to be murders of other people i could never ever be able to live with that. virginia told the whole tor story.
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so now lapd detectives zeroed in on susan atkins and learned she belonged to a commune called the family. the leader was a short scruffy guy named manson. charles manson and the cops to their surprise discovered manson at several of his followers were already in custody. not for murder, but for car theft. >> manson was a life long criminal who never could go more than a day or two of his free life without breaking some law. >> and the people with him, young, mostly women were barely more than half his age. >> they're easily influence. they came from broken homes or they were bullied at school. they didn't fit in. and he was able to tap into all
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of that. police began to interview these women. one was barbara hoyt who spoke about life inside the family and what attracted her to charles manson. >> he was very loving flts he was very much a father figure. >> how did it make you feel? >> it made me feel special. it felt like we were all fingers on one hand. felt like we were the digits and charlie was the hand. >> police spoke with other manson women too and learned that manson moved to los angeles where he sent his girls out to find someone, anyone who could make him a rock star. they encountered dennis wilson who took manson to the beach boys studio where he recorded this. ♪ >> it never went anywhere. manson didn't measure up as a
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singer song writer. he and his family, about 20 of them had settled in the foothills at a place called spahn ranch. >> one of the best things about the ranch was they were allowed to stay there because they would do chores. >> when they weren't working the family went dumpster diving for food. there were a lot of drugs and plenty of sex all directed by manson. >> he told people who to sleep with. what to eat. where to, you know, do their bodily functions. >> she told the detectives that charlie preached to his flock constantly. >> he would quote from the book of revelation. >> which he knew pretty well. >> not pretty well, we're talking word for word. >> they really did listen to the
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white album over and over. >> the beatles sprawling double album released a few months before the murders. one song in familiar captivated charlie. helter skelter. with lyrics they said was sparked by an amusement ride. for him, helter skelter meant something else. what did it have to do with the brutal murders in los angeles? it all made perfect sense to charlie manson. >> coming up, manson's unshakable hold on his family. >> he looks beautiful, he looks happy and he draws a lot of people. >> and the possible motive behind the murders. >> charlie would be king of the
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world. >> but that's crazy talk. >> but it wasn't to us. >> but it wasn't to us
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october, 1969. after two months of false leads in the murders, suddenly there was news. >> police got their break in the tate case when this girl, susan atkins, was arrested in another
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los angeles murder and talked to a cell mate about the alleged killings. >> that led to a hippy cult called the family and their leader, charles manson. >> he dances, he sings, he looks beautiful. he looks happy and this draws a lot of people just like people are drawn to little babies. >> they look like all the other hippies hanging around l.a. >> but prosecutor interviewed them extensively and soon found out these hippies were different especially their leader, manson. an ex- con and want to be rock star obsessed with the book of revelation and the beatles. >> he thought they were prophets speaking beneath their songs.
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>> manson's followers were well aware of the racial tension which had flared up around the country. now manson told them the song, helter skelter was the beatles' prophesy of a race war. division of armagedden. >> he will lead his family to death valley where there's ooa bottomless pit. when the war is over, the blacks have will won but they will not have the intellectual capacity to govern themselves. >> then charlie told them, the family would take over. >> in other words, charlie would be king of the world. >> but then again, manson was feeding them a steady diet of
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lsd. he was serious about this. >> yeah. >> but that's crazy talk? >> it wasn't to us. the world was crazy to us. >> investigators learned that he was not content to wait for helter skelter. he wanted to start it by murdering wealthy white people whom he called an homage to another beatles song, piggies. buzz he wanted his so-called family to do that. >> by that point they were willing to do anything for him. >> because they loved him, because they feared him? >> they say at that time they were brainwashed. >> it hardly seemed possible and yet as prosecutors were able to piece it together, manson sent
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susan atkins and others to the home of sharon tate and her friends, a group of people he did not even know. he did nose the former resident. a music producer from whom he tried but failed to get a record contract. he was well aware the record producer had moved out. >> whoever is living there now has to be rich and famous. the house is picked because of its location. >> then manson sent the same group plus leslie home. seven savage murders all in the plan of one man's fantasy. >> he's a very evil sophisticated con man, but he's not insane at all. >> susan atkins we vealed all
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the gruesome details about how she and other family members shot and slashed everyone in the home and then scrawled in blood what charles manson had taught them. >> and when the words helter skelter were found printed in blood, that was equivalent of manson's fingerprints being found at the murder scene. >> then in december of '69 about four months after the killings. >> in california five members of a so-called religious cult have been indicted in the murder of sharon tate and six others. >> they brought charles manson in to los angeles to the police station. and they're expecting, my god, this must be some kind of monster and instead of some big beast there's this little tiny guy with long hair. >> are you scenane? >> it's relevant.
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>> with the whole world watching charles manson would go on trial. >> he was the master mind. these murders would never have taken place if it had not been for charles manson. but the case against charlie seems obvious, it was not then. not for the prosecutor. manson didn't personally commit the murders. there was no evidence to show he manipulated his group. >> i had to bring him in by way of circumstantial evidence. >> so the prosecutor decided to use heltder skelter. it played well on the white album but how would it play with a jury? >> the riveting court case that captivated the country. >> charlie always wanted to be
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famous and he was going to do it right. >> and does one of the killers have a chance at freedom? when dateline continues. freedom when dateline continues.
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in the cult-like group to do the unthinkable, massacre other people. atkins testimony would be key to the prosecution's case but there was no physical evidence linking manson to the killings. what would it take to convince the jury he was the evil puppet master behind the bloodshed. here's the conclusion of "manson." the '60s gave us the summer of love. in 1970 in the summer of manson. >> all the elements are present for the most sensational murder trial in history. >> that summer manson and three of his followers went on trial for the murders. >> mr. manson feels he's a product of our society. >> prosecutor's bugliosi's task was daunting. a case like no other, a defendant like no prosecutor had ever encountered. >> he had to prove that charles
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manson, this weird little guy, could have some control over these other followers to make them commit murder but not to the extent that the followers were mentally incompetent to be tried eritrea. >> that's a tricky business. >> it is very tricky. >> the trickiest part is making a charge of first degree murder stick against manson himself. >> it's little more difficult to convict him because he didn't physically participate in these murders. >> bugliosi had a two part strategy. prove manson's domination over his family and explain his motive to the jury. but what a motive. >> that motive was held tter skelter to ignite a war between black and whites. it was he who introduced helter skelter to the family. talked about it all the time. >> bugliosi had a star witness, susan atkins. she repeated everything to a
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grand jury. >> now that huf had a chance to get it off your chest describe how you feel? >> but then atkins recanted and said she made up the whole thing. so bugliosi turned to other members. >> i decided well do i want to live with myself when i get old and that was the deciding factor. >> barbara became a wary witness for the prosecution. she said she knew she would take the stand in full view of her manson followers. >> what was it like to see them up there? >> they were kissing up to me when i was in the back of the courtroom. blowing kisses and smiling. that changed when i started opening up my mouth. >> day after day members of the manson family demonstrated at the courthouse. >> your system wants destruction.
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that's what it will get. >> inside, charlie's co-defendants, van houten, krenwinkel and susan atkins played to the cameras. it was a circus of weird. manson in the center ring. >> are you guilty of plotting any murders? >> i killed a chicken once. >> you're absolutely innocence of any conspiracy to commit murder or telling anyone to commit murder or planning it? >> i'll plead guilty to the indians. >> one day manson appeared in court with an x scratched in his forehead. the rest of the family quickly followed suit. >> charlie wanted to be famous and if by god he was going to do it he would do it right. >> sharon tate's little sister seized as she watched on tv. >> they were mocking america. they were mocking our very
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foundation. >> everyone seemed to be watching. everyone seemed to have an opinion. even the president of the united states. >> here is a man who is guilty, directly or indirectly of eight murders without reason. >> next day headline, "l.a. times" around the country, manson guilty mixon declares. >> all the while manson basked in the glare of the media saying anything about anyone. >> the judge made a fool of himself again. he questioned my sanity. i question his. >> at the end of the 22 week trial bugliosi said manson's family preached love but practiced cold-blooded murder. >> literally slaughtered the victims in an orgy of murder. >> the verdict came after nine davis deliberations. the jury found all four
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defendants guilty of first degree murder. >> in my verdict i wanted to protect society. after all this is the united states of america and we have a heritage and this is something we must protect. >> they were all sentenced to dea death. >> are you prepared to die? has he talked to you about death? >> he's already dead. he's already dead. he has no thoughts, no opinions. he's an empty hole. he's infinite. >> tex watson who did the actual killing was convicted and sentenced to die in a separate trial. in 1972 the california supreme court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional. the sentences were reduced to life in prison. there would be no gas chamber for any of the manson family. which meant that all of them even charles manson himself who have a chance at freedom after serving their sentence.
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man son, tex watson, krenwinkel, van houten and susan atkins each had parole hearings they were all denied. in 2009 susan atkins died. but leslie van houten had a chance at freedom. >> doesn't matter whether i wielded the fatal blows or not i feel responsible for both of their deaths. >> in 2016 the parole board recommended releasing her but three months later governor jerry brown vetoed the idea. sharon tate's younger sister was relady. >> she didn >> there has to be some sort of accountability in this world. >> convincing the jury of this very sophisticated motive of charles manson. >> bugliosi died in 2015. the sorry he wove for the jury
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that helter skelter was the motive for the murders added to charlie manson's enduring legends. >> i don't need to kill anyone. >> charlie manson would spend the rest of his life behind bars. in november 2017 shortly after his 83rd birthday, nearly 50 years since he orchestrated those brutal crimes he died in prison. throughout his long life he never admitted regret or remorse. >> remorse for what? you people have done everything in the world to me. done that give me equal right? i can do anything i want to you people an any time i want to because that's what you've done to me. >> charles manson will remain, forever seared into the public consciousness. evil personifi everyone d. the man some say who brought down the curtain of the '60s as
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an age of innocence. in his own twisted way he achieved the fame he had been seeking all along. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline". i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. morales. thanks for watching. she was a person out of a '40s film noir movie. >> with a life full of mystery to match. >> she was a stunner. she could say jump and men would say how high. >> there was someone she seemed closer to. >> they bought matching underwear together. >> they shared everything. >> they're eating together, sleeping in the same bed together, she's living at her house. >> did they also share a deadly secret? >> it was a love triangle and one of them had to go. >> but was it her idea? >> oh, god. it seemed like a good idea at

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