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hello, everyone. for weeks we have seen zero movement on ending the shutdown. now president trump says he wants to break the log jam. >> it is time to reclaim our future from the extreme voices who fear compromise and demand open borders. >> top democrats are expressing doubts. i'll be joined by former
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congressman carlos curbelo. after being blasted by the president, buzzfeed still stands by its story, the president instructed michael cohen to lie. we begin with president trump's repeated calls for a border wall along the southern border. tonight reiterating that, but then offering what he says is a compromise on daca and temporary protected status programs aimed at reopening the foerlg end the shutdown. it is now dragging into its 29th day. here's the president earlier unveiling the plan. >> to physically secure our border, the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers or a wall. this is not a 2,000-mile concrete structure from sea to sea. these are steal barriers in
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high-priority locations. >> number one is three years of legislative relief for 700,000 daca recipients brought here unlawfully by their parents at a young page many years ago. second our proposal provides a three-year extension of temporary protected status, or tps. >> now, top democrats have rejected what the president has to say, some conservatives have already called it amnesty. so where does that leave us? joining me now, msnbc white house correspondent geoff bennett and nbc news congressional correspondent mike be a ker ra. break this down for us. obviously the white house felt they needed to do something, they had to move the needle somehow. are they feeling now that they did that >> for many republicans, yes, the speech was enough to say that president trump is making a good faith effort to get the government up and running again and it's the democrats who are
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obstructionists, that's the democrats who are hypocrites for supporting donald trump now. but for democrats, this speech didn't move the needle one bit. democrats shot down the president's proposals based on initial reports before he even said one word from the diplomatic room today in part because they say they need something more than temporary protections for dreamers and refugees. they won't budge on funding the border wall and they say they're not doing a deal until the president reopens the government. chris, as you know from having covered previous administrations, sometimes what a president says is as important as what one doesn't say. nowhere in the president's speech this evening was a mention of the 800,000 federal workers who are not receiving paychecks. look, we know president trump has never really shut down an aptitude for the pastoral aspects of the presidency. he's not an i feel your pain kind of guy.
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but he has cast himself as a businessman. and according to at least one estimate by "the new york times," those affected federal workers are losing $200,000 a day in wages. the direct and unintended consequences of this shutdown are enormous and they're being felt everywhere from airports to state parks to people's kitchen tables. the big political question at this point is whether this speech will give traction to the argument he's trying to make that democrats have been obstructionists and should shoulder the blame for what is the longest government shutdown in history when polls have consistently shown that americans blame president trump who, as we all know, once said he would be the proud to own a shutdown, chris. >> that brings us to what happens next, mike vaquera. we know the majority leader in the senate mcconnell has been
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mia. so what's he saying now? what are people on the hill -- they're not on the hill right now, but what are members of congress saying? >> i think mitch mcconnell's fingertips are all over this. mitch mcconnell recognizes the dynamic had to change, that there were some not a critical mass, but some and an increasing number of senate republicans who are starting to waiver who are saying let's just open the government and then negotiate all of this stuff. people forget the number one job of a congressional leader as they see it in the context of washington politics and capitol hill, not everybody sees it this way, is to protect their members and expand or maintain their majorities or numbers in congress. that's mitch mcconnell's first last consideration. he knows he would ask his membership to walk the political
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plank for no reason because the president was going to veto him. that's the way it works. now, nancy pelosi for her part has as you point out, preemptively shot all of this down. she has said she's going to be sending yet again bills over to the senate to see if they will vote on. they passed before christmas unanimously. president trump tweets how many times a day, six, seven, eight sometimes? >> before breakfast. >> mostly about the shutdown. but he used this sort of idiom of the solemn setting of the diplomatic room speaking to prompter, not a press conference, sort of the deep state trappings, if you will, that would appeal to a lot of people on capitol hill and senate republicans who, frankly, are tired of the way the president communicates and wished that he wouldn't just lash out and rage tweet over the course of the last several days. so we're going to sit back and
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wait and see what kind of reaction we get from senate republicans, and more importantly, who's going to be feeling the political pain over the next week. >> thanks to both of you gentlemen. let's get to my panel in washington. political reporter leigh ann cold well, gabby orr, in austin, texas, victoria defrancesco, and democratic strategist joel pane. the president says this is a compromise. here's what he is offering. he's offering $800 million in urgent humanitarian assistance. $805 million for drug detection to secure ports of entry. 75 new immigration judges to reduce court backlog, relief to 700,000 daca recipients. on its face, someone who doesn't look at this every day who
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doesn't do a deep dive can say look, the president is out there trying to make a deal. what's your take on this? >> let me start with the last piece, chris, which is the one we're talking most about, which is the daca relief, the tps relief. we have to remember that president trump was the one who took that away. we already had the daca protections. two years ago he came in and said i'm going to scrub that. now he says he's going to give some protection back. this notion of only providing three years and not allowing for permanency is what is so bothersome. when you're looking at immigrants themselves, dreamers are saying for three years i'm not going to take it, i'd rather hold out for something more permanent. this is probably the most sensitive piece. the other pieces, the increased funding for immigration judges, the increased funding for border patrol agents, i think most everybody, republicans and democrats, would agree that's
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reasonable. but the elephant in the room is for the wall. and the wall is something that the democrats are not going to budge on. it is something that is a permanent wall for a temporary fix for these dreamers. that temporary and permanent fix is what's really getting in people's frustration. >> gabby, what's your sense of this? is this legit, the white house thinking they are going to be able to put something out there now that could lead to a deal? or is this a hail mary? >> i think it's a little bit of both. in the one sense we're reaching the 29th day of the shutdown today. there was really no offramp for the president to take unless he declared a national emergency. this is a last-ditch attempt to bring democrats back to the table and find some type of compromise. of course, ahead of this agreement even before president trump laid out the terms, we already heard from congressional democrats, including house speakers nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, who said this was basically just a compilation of
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recycled. >> no, ma'am, that have already been rejected by both sides, that this daca for border wall funding trade was rejected a long time ago and there's no reason to believe that it would now be politically sufficient in this situation. so i do think that although this was an attempt to bring democrats back to the table, it's not necessarily guaranteed to work in the coming days. >> joel, obviously the republicans think they may have something here and there was this call with house republicans who basically came to the conclusion that now the american people are going to look at this and say that the president is willing and eager to get a deal done. is there a danger here for the democrats? >> well, i think democrats actually did a good job of reacting swiftly and in a unified fashion. the last thought out here that this is a real attempt by the president and the white house to include democrats and engage democrats. it's not. i actually think it's twofold. it's to shore up his base and the republicans in the senate
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and in the house as mike said earlier. they were getting a little wobbly, getting a little shaky. i talked to one senior republican believe it or not, and they said this is a reasonable deal, they expect mcconnell to put it on the floor and they think this is something they can work with. this is a republican from a very vulnerable state, someone who's up in 2020. so that was very interesting to me. also, i think it was meant to engage democrats who are from some of those trump states, places in the middle of the country that tend to support the president's ideas. however, i don't think it's going to be as effective as pulling those folks in. some of those democrats are saying this is a nonstarter. so i think the president's primary audience was his caucus and to bracket some of those democrats who might be vulnerable. i think he might have been successful in unifying this caucus but he might have struck out in bringing on some democrats. >> where does this leave us, leigh ann? that's the $6 million question,
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before we went through a pay period, the thought was all you have to do is see people standing in line trying to get food for their families or talking about how they can't pay for their medicine. well, that has already happened. there's talk about whether or not it would take the super bowl being postponed, whether there would have to be a walkout by tsa agents. where is this going? has this changed anything right now? >> well, chris, what i will say is the house republicans did hold a conference call after the president spoke and senate republicans did as well. what i'm hearing is that zo mcconnell is expected to put this on the floor tuesday. from what i'm hearing from some of these republicans, more moderate republicans, that they think that this is a little bit of progress, at least these -- they're saying these negotiations have now officially begun. the president put something on the table, the democrats earlier
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in the day added another billion dollars for border security. and so while they know that democrats are not going to prove or support the president's proposal, they're hoping that nancy pelosi, when this gets to the house, puts up a counteroffer. and so they say that this is a little bit of progress and i think that who the audience was of the president tonight, he's getting public pressure. it's american people, not just his base. he was getting pressure to do something. now it looks like he's willing to compromise and that is the pr image that he wanted to put out, chris. >> in our last minute, victoria, do you see any circumstance under which nancy pelosi and chuck schumer say, okay, we can make a deal without reopening the government first? >> i think it would have to be a permanent solution to these dreamers. that is the only one.
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even then, i don't think it's a sure thing. it has to be something permanent and then some money would be loosened up for the wall. >> gabby orr, thank you so much. the rest of the panel will stick around. joining me is steve cohen. congressman, good evening. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> is there anything you heard from the president that has moved the needle for you? >> no, not at all. i guess he suspects we're all judy holiday and we were born yesterday. but none of us were. this is a crazy deal. three years for the dreamers and $5.7 billion waste for a wall. >> so what is it that's going to break this log jam, as had he put it? >> i think the president needs to sit down with speaker pelosi, not with jared kushner, pence, and mcconnell and work with the other side to come up with a
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compromise. he came up with a compromise with his own team. that's not a compromise. he said it was fair, reasonable, common sense, straightforward. if it's fair, reasonable, common sense, and straightforward to give dreamers and tps individuals three years, why has he not been for it in the pasta. he needs to sit down with speaker pelosi. we're not going to have a wall. we might have additional border protections. it's the 21st century. it's about drones, technology that ferret out drugs and weapons, increase personnel on the boarders. we need to put our people back to work. he has the federal employees as hostages. there haven't been more hostages taken never by an american president. this is something that happened in iran. this is something that happened in lebanon. something that happened in russia. that's where you have hostage takers. and the president of the united
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states is right there in the same boat with those people. it's immoral. the wall's not immoral per se. you can do something with walling, but keeping american government officials as hostages, that's immoral >> the things that you just mentioned, tech, had he put in there $805 million for drug detection tech, 75 new immigration judge teams. he has sort of walked away from some of the conversation on the wall. he said a steel barrier in high-priority locations. did you hear anything that says to you, well, maybe if the government reopens, we actually could get a deal here? >> the government's got to reopen first. i don't think he'll do that. with trump you got your stuff on the front end. >> what about the workers? >> they're in a bad position and they're in a bad position because their boss, the president's job is to run the government and to make it
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operate. he is not doing his job. his job is not to take federal government people hostage. we had an agreement at $1.3 billion for border security until rush limbaugh and laura whatever her name is told him it was wrong. now he wants the whole $5.7 billion. he's had two years he's built not one inch of wall and he's not used monies we've given him that he has in reserve. the fact is we have a president that can't operate and do the job of president of the united states. he needs to resign. >> he talked about violence, rape, and the drug problem and didn't say anything to address the 800,000 workers who are coming up on a second paycheck they're not going to get? >> most definitely. he doesn't care about the workers or understand what it's like to live from paycheck to paycheck, to have a house note, a car note, tuition for kids in
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college. his father gave him 560 odd million dollars and he never paid back. even then he went bankrupt with his casinos. the problem is he doesn't care about that. what he brought up about the rape and prayer rug in the desert, that's all fiction. the sad thing is you can't believe anything this president says. he does not have a grip on reality or any concern about the truth. that makes negotiations difficult and it makes our government and our politics very difficult because the man is a pathological liar. >> congressman steve cohen, thank you so much for your time. how are you things in memphis? >> it's starting to snow a little bit but the memphis tigers whooped up on smu by 30 points. that was good. i went out with our government workers, they're stable noble but they're having problems. memphis is moving along and dr. king's birthday is monday
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and that's a big day in memphis. civil rights museum is open and have tons of tourists. >> congressman, good to see you. >> and a big basketball game monday too. thank you. >> thank you. a lot more to come when we return. we'll get a live report from the border. gabe gutierrez and president trump once again targets migrants on twitter. later, buzzfeed sticks with its story that the presidents ordered michael cohen to lie about the moscow tower project. we'll be back with more of you are a extended coverage right after this. essential for pine trees,
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welcome back with an nbc news exclusive. we were able to capture these images of more than 300 migrants crossing into arizona this week. most of them burrowing underneath the border fence. for more on what's happening on the ground in border states, i want to head out to nbc's gabe gutierrez who is near the u.s./mexico border. what are you finding out there? good evening >> reporter: hi there, chris. whether it's really a crisis at the border is the central question of this shutdown. amid that debate, nearly 20,000 border agents are among the federal employees right now working without pay. in this nighttime video from the border patrol, you see a bus in mexico dropping off dozens of migrants and then they simply walk across a remote stretch of the arizona border marked only with a small fence. this is where it happened.
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that's mexico there exactly where the undocumented immigrants were drooped off and then walked right here to the u.s. side of the border. >> i think you can ask any border patrol agent that's been around from one year to 30 years as myself, and they'll tell you that this is a crisis. >> reporter: earlier this week more than 300 undocumented immigrants crossed illegally near yuma, smug lers bureau rode under the border fence to slide them through. >> we've seen large groups of family units and unaccompanied children. it's created this backlog in the immigration system. >> reporter: but overall, apprehensions have plummeted over the last two decades. in the tucson sector alone, a drop to just 52,000 last year. >> reporter: is there a crisis on the border? >> yes, there is. >> reporter: this is the acting chief of the border patrol in tucson. he says the crisis is humanitarian, although all the numbers are lower, he says
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families from central america. he says they take longer to process. >> we're an apolitical organization. we execute our orders because the executive office. i can only tell you from focusing on field operations that, you know, border security is imperative to this nation. >> reporter: chris, border patrol is still working without pay. just a few feet from where we're standing, we saw an undocumented immigrant trying to scale this 22-foot fence here. nothing -- didn't seemed to be deterred by the fence. got caught up in the barbed wire. when patrol agents pulled up and went over the side of the fence where he was picked up by a couple smugglers and taken to mexico. border patrol says at least that was a deterrent, that it managed to slow him down enough.
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certainly quite a sight here just a few feet from our camera, chris. >> i mean, how long did it take him to scale that? >> reporter: it was really quick, i got to tell you, just a few seconds. it was several feet from us. we're in nogales. this fencing is 22 feet up and border patrol agents say this happens all the time. undocumented immigrants can scale this fence. it's incredible to watch. he got up to the other side but got caught up in the barbed wire. so the border patrol agents were able to pull up. he went back over the fence but they say this happens all the time. whether this amounts to a crisis as the president has been repeatedly saying, is really up for debate. they have been seeing increasingly these large groups of migrants that are heading to the more remote part of this southwest border, making a dangerous journey. that group of more than 300 and
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then that group of several dozens, more than 80 that we showed in the piece, they say they're seeing that with increasing frequency, these family units being taken by smugglers to those remote areas. >> gabe gutierrez in arizona for us on the border. thank you so much. back with me is my panel. victoria, let me start with you because i'm curious what you take away from this. on one hand you have border patrol folks saying this is indeed a crisis, but you also see somebody pretty easily, at least from my perspective, able to get to the top of that wall. what's your takeaway from that report? >> the first is, chris, if you construct a barrier, folks who really want to get in are going to try to find a way either under the wall or over the wall. so let's think about smarter ways of protecting the border through surveillance, through drone surveillance, for example. that's the one piece. the second is, this is about a
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refugee and asylum crisis we're dealing with. those surges in numbers we're seeing of folks trying to cross the border illegally, many of the videos we just saw, is because the trump administration has choked off the ability for these migrants, refugees, to be processed at the border. the trump administration over the last couple weeks, even months, has been metering, namely, that they are only allowing a trickle of folks to be processed. and so these individuals are desperate, they're fleeing terrible conditions, and they say, you know what, we're going to chance it and try to cross illegally in these dangerous areas. that's what we're seeing here. we also need to understand this is a different frame from just regular economic migrants coming over. these are refugee seekers who have no other recourse and this is what we're seeing. >> one of the things that he wants to do, joel, the president wants them to stay in their
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country and you'll get amnesty. if you want to apply, do it from your own country or stay in mexico. >> chris, i think all the president wants to do is keep talking about immigration. he would rather talk about this than robert mueller or russia or any other things that are plaguing his administration. this is a crisis he's manufactured. the only reason you can use crisis is by donald trump manufactured, by locking up children at the border. one of the most inhumane immigration policies we've seen by putting people around him like steven miller who don't even want to invest in legal immigration. while he said some nice things from the white house earlier today, he had some nice comments and showed a bit of humanity. but i don't believe it because his body of work does not back that up. so the president will say a lot of things, but we have not been led to believe that this president cares about this issue. all he cares to do is talk about
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it and demagogue it. >> obviously we talked about it for a long time, the separation of families. he's been promising and even said at one point the families would be reunified within a short period of time, and that was months ago. this week the department of health and human services said thousands of migrant children were separated from their parents than previously reported. officials are not sure exactly how many were reunified. is there a plan to get these kids back with their parents? >> chris, that is the million-dollar question. that's something democrats are consistently asking now that democrats are in the house of representatives. senate democrats are hoping to do the same. they're not in control over there, but they're raising the alarm, still hoping to draw
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attention to this issue. but everything that's happening at the border as joel just said, democrats are saying this is all created by the president. democrats are especially per teshd that trump said he's going to say offer a temporary fix for tps and daca. they're saying, look, these are things, programs that he ended. so giving us something that wasn't broken in the first place as part of a negotiation po is not something they're into. i do expect this negotiation and this back and forth to continue for at least a little while, especially since there's no trust between democrats and the president on this issue as the president has come close to a deal over the past two years on some of these issues. and then he just walked away at the last minute. so it's going to have to not only be some good-faith negotiations to rebuild this
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trust in order for anything to get done >> by the way really quickly, a crisis is 800,000 federal workers being out of work because this president is seeking a solution on immigration. that's a crisis that people are waiting in lines outside of work because they don't have food. that's a crisis. this made-up thing he's talking about at the border, that's not a crisis. >> thanks to all of you. the president pounced when the special counsel disputed buzzfeed's story about michael cohen and the moscow trump tower project. you're watching extended coverage on msnbc. -we're in a small room. what?! -welcome. -[ gasps ] a bigger room?! -how many of you use car insurance?
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welcome back. buzzfeed news is doubling down on its explosive scoop claiming that donald trump directed michael cohen to lie to congress about the trump tower moscow deal. just hours ago, a spokesman for buzzfeed says in a statement, as we've reconfirmed our reporting, we see no indication that any specific aspect of our story is inaccurate. we remain confident in what we've reported and will share more as we are able. robert mueller's office took the extraordinary step last night of
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publicly refuting parts of the report, calling the report, quote, not accurate. for more i'm joined by guy lewis. good to see you. this statement from peter carr that people have been dissecting over the last 26 hours or so says this. buzzfeed's description of specific statements to the special counsel's office and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office regarding michael cohen's congressional testimony are not accurate. here's the $6 million question. what exactly is the special counsel referring to here? >> boy, oh, boy, you are right, chris, that it is extraordinary. i believe this is the first pronouncement other than a pleading, other than something that one of the lawyers has said in court that can be attributed to bob mueller, the special prosecutor. this is the first time he's come out and actually made a statement like this. so it is extraordinary. you're 100% right.
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and i think he is really going to the core of the buzzfeed article. if we take a step back, chris, i mean, the article makes clear that the president had suborned perjury, that the president had encouraged michael cohen to go before congress and give false testimony. that is a crime. now, i've always been very skeptical. when i saw this, to be candid with you, having done this as a prosecutor for years and years and years, served both democrats and republicans, i was very skeptical of the report because, frankly, to be candid, i'm skeptical of michael cohen's testimony. he's a convicted liar and i think he's going to have to be corroborated >> what's interesting about this was that it included this corroboration, they had the documentation because, obviously, the other side was going to come back always on michael cohen and say he's a convicted felon, he's a known
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liar. so they had the documentation. this doesn't say that the documents don't exist. it's the characterization. it seems to me this statement is very carefully worded. i wouldn't expect any less from the special counsel's office, but why this? why now? why would he even go there? >> because, frankly, i think that he is coming at least to terms with a report. and we can expect a report soon. and frankly, criminal conduct is being attributed to the president of the united states, and i think it created an expectation. i've only seen one time, having done this for a long time, to put it in context, one other time i saw this. this was right after 9/11. you may recall the anthrax problems that we had up in boca
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raton, florida. the attorney general asked know take a statement about an investigation because the department's rules, the rule says do not talk about investigations. it's a no-no. can't do it. so my guess is, chris, is that this may very well have come from the acting attorney general of the united states to mueller saying, look, you got to go out and straighten this out. it's that big a deal. >> so it sounds to me like you think at least one takeaway from this is that it's an indication that this is all winding down? that that report is getting ready to be put out there? >> in part, yes. i do think that. and i also think that it's important for us to continue to be skeptical about some of these reports that are in the media. look, with all due respect to michael cohen, i want to see the
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documents, right? >> everybody wants to see the documents. we all want to see documents. >> exactly. i want to see the e-mails. i want to see the texts. i want to see recordings, corroboration, other witnesses. that's what i want to see before i start checking the guilty box on an obstruction of justice count. >> it's something we will learn more about if not before then when we hear from michael cohen who's going to go before congress. they'll ask the questions. we don't know if we'll get answer. guy lewis. i'm joined by former republican congressman carlos curbelo to talk about whether this proposal could hope reopen the government. eopen the government (burke) parking splat. and we covered it.
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both sides in washington must simply come together, listen to each other, put down their armor, build trust, reach across the aisle and find solutions. it is time to reclaim our future from the extreme voices who fear compromise and demand open borders, which means drugs pouring in, human trafficking, and a lot of crime. that is why i am here today to break the log jam. >> and that was president trump just a few hours ago talking about how he thinks these negotiations can move forward, but offering a proposal that is
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a proposal from within his administration, no democrats were consulted. i'm joined by former republican congressman of florida, carlos curbelo, nbc news and msnbc political analyst. i'm trying to figure out how they think in the white house, congressman, this moves anything forward. they had to know that by going back to $5.7 billion for the wall was the impact nonstarter. what he says he's giving, for example, three years for daca, giving back something that he took away in the first place. how does this move things forward? >> chris, good evening from miami. for those of us who have worked on immigration reform for many years, today is actually a step in the right direction. that doesn't mean that this is a deal that democrats should take. but i really do view this as an invitation back to the table. the president the putting some things on the table.
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i think the fact that tps is included is important. the tps population is similar to the daca population. some of these individuals have been in the united states for 18, 19, 20 years u and they do did he ne deserve a permanent solution. hoping they will at least consider making a counterproposal, a counteroffer to the president, perhaps that would deliver permanent protections for daca recipients and the tps population. >> but you're already hearing from people like ann coulter and i'm sure we're going to hear from some conservative republicans saying this is amnesty, and there she is. trump appropriates amnesty. we voted for trump and got jeb. so where does that leave the republican side of this? >> without a question, those types of comments do have an influence on the president,
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regrettably, but the tonight went on the record saying that he did want to compromise, that he did want a deal. for weeks now, chris, many of us have known the obvious out, the obvious solution for the current drama and this shutdown crisis, which, by the way, the president should own because he said he would own back at that meeting in the white house last year. however, i think most people in the country want to see us emerge from this, get out of this. and the obvious way out where both sides can save face, chris, is a permanent protection for the daca population. we had 1.8 million in the bill irked in the last congress. hopefully a number similar to that. and yes, increased funding for border security as gabe gutierrez just showed. there are problems at the border. there is human trafficking. there is drug trafficking and we should do more to combat that.
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>> you know better than the average person how complicated this is, how very complex the negotiations have been, how emotionally as well as legally fraught they can be. do the democrats have a point where they say you cannot negotiate this under these circumstances? the government should never have been shut down. 800,000 people are not getting paid. open up the government and then let's have the conversation. but if we're going to wait to get comprehensive immigration reform while 800,000 people are waiting to get paid, i think at some point the airports are going to be shut down, don't you? >> i agree with that, chris. there's no need to shut down the government in order to have a good debate and a good result on immigration reform. but this is where we are. we don't get to choose. this is where we are, and we know in order to reopen the government we're going to need a bill that gets a majority in the house, 60 votes in the senate,
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and the president's signature. and what i would say for those on the left that are saying, well, no negotiation, no way, just demand that he open up the government, there are 800,000 federal workers and families that are really hoping can come compromise, reach an agreement, reopen the government and, by the way, make some progress on this immigration issue. that doesn't just hurt our country in terms of immigration policy but spills over broadly in society, scoring scapegoating in the country. solving immigration will help heal the country's politics. it was a crisis, and it was unnecessary, but at this point, our leaders should take advantage of it, try to get the government back open and deliver a good solution for immigration that's balanced and that improves people's lives. >> we're out of time, but i want to ask you quickly, did the president make a huge mistake in not even acknowledging the 800,000 people who are not getting paid? >> it was a mistake.
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i went through a few airports this week, and i spoke to some of those tsa agents. they really are hurting. what they'd tell me is, please, talk to your old friends. see if they can reach an agreement. we'd all like to see this pass. so, yes, the president should have noted that there are people that are really struggling. >> and people going to work every day. >> and hopefully, his intention is to end it. >> people are going to work every day that are not getting a paycheck. >> have a good night. controversy aside, women take to the streets across america as the women's march returns. en's march returns. as someone in witness protection, i can't tell you anything about myself. but believe me... i'm not your average consumer. that's why i switched to liberty mutual. they customized my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. and as a man... uh... or a woman... with very specific needs that i can't tell you about- say cheese. mr. landry? oh no. hi mr. landry!
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you know, i was covering this march last year. we saw about 500,000 participants walking through the streets of downtown los angeles. nowhere near that size today. nonetheless, this area down here was packed earlier this afternoon as this event was taking place. it's been interesting to see how this movement has evolved, right? in 2017, it really was about resisting trump and channelling anger to trump. now, it's moving in a different direction. so i wanted to talk to the par misstist pa ti participants about what's next. let's listen. you came to the march in la last year. what brings you back? >> well, i think there's more pressing issues this year, now that more has unravelled about our president. just in la, mostly, i want to focus on, you know, our community. i think there's a lot that we can fix in regards to, you know, like respecting women and what they have to say and believing women when they say that something has happened. >> i feel like women have been
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disregarded as a part of like a hole for a long time. >> reporter: on the heels of the in-fighting and controversy that has divided this movement, everyone stressed to me today the importance of unity and inclusivity. >> simone, thanks so much. that'll do it for me tonight. we thank you for staying with us for our extended coverage. up next, president trump's speech from earlier today in its entirety, and analysis with my colleague, joy reid. what a great weekend. oy reid. what a great weekend -morning. -morning. -what do we got? -keep an eye on that branch. might get windy. have a good shift. fire pit. last use -- 0600. i'd stay close. morning. ♪ get ready to switch. protected by flo. should say, "protected by alan and jamie." -right? -should it? when you bundle home and auto... run, alan! ...you get more than just savings. you get 'round-the-clock protection.
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