simple. easy. awesome. i'll see you again at noon. stay right where you are because it is time for "up" with david gura. ♪ this is "up." as the government shutdown continues, the president puts his cards on the table. >> i promised i would fix this crisis. and i intend to keep that promise one way or the other. >> but democrats reject the offer before the president speaks. they remain opposed to negotiation you can the president reopens the

government. >> a president who has not had the common decency to sit down with any federal workers. >> this morning we have new detailses the exchange between robert mueller's office and reporters for buzzfeed news about that bombshell piece that the special counsel says is a bust. >> the buzzfeed piece was a disgrace to our country. it was a disgrace to journalism. >> it is sunday, january 20th, and house speaker nancy pelosi is holding her ground. >> nancy, how you feeling tonight? >> oh, just normal. not like junking my own power or anything. >> up with me this morning, a. scott bold win, a criminal defense attorney. and christina greer who teaches political science. and leigh gallagher at fortune magazine, and evan siegfried, a

republican strategist. it is day 30 of the government shutdown. president trump trying to break the logjam this weekend, those are his word, offering a deal to democrats that would temp rarely lift the threat of deportation for three years. his proposal you includes extending the legal status for 700,000 young undocumentsed immigrants and another 300,000 refugees whose status is scheduled to expire. >> this extension will give them access to work permits, social security numbers, and protection from deportation most importantly. >> the president's plan comes with a catch, he continues it demand $5.7 billion for a wall along the u.s.-mexico border. >> this is a common sense compromise both parties should embrace. the radical left can never control our borders. i will never let it happen. walls are not immoral.

>> democrats' response was swift, so swift that lawmakers began it issue statements before the president walked into the diplomatic room at the white house it make that proposal. oh house speaker nancy pelosi called it unacceptable and nonstarter, chuck schumer says it is not a compromise, but more hostage taking. the next payroll deadline is midnight tuesday and if the federal government is not reopened by then, 800,000 federal workers will miss another paycheck. speaker pelosi tweeting what we didn't hear from the president was any sim past any for the federal workers who face so much uncertainty because of the days on of the trump shutdown. so i want your reaction to what was laid out there yesterday. the president as he often does, a major address that was going to take place. and we spent most of yesterday wondering what he was going to say. there was talk of would there be a national emergency declared, what would he be on the table. your reaction to what was in there. >> besides him just eating

adjectives. so i mean here is the problem. when the president talks about this wall and needing this wall, right, to say nothing of the mexico was supposed to pay for it, say nothing of the fact that he had two years of un fid government where if it was such a grade deal, it should have been passed then, now he's saying i'll make these concessions, but if you're saying the situation is so horrible, why all of a sudden are you saying that we can work with daca and maybe have concessions for immigrants. he is not too sure what is going on obviously because this president has a very we know a nationalist edagenda, his wrd o not mine. so his vision of america is obviously a whiter vision, but he is in a jamg because he promised the nation that he would run this country the way he runs his business and this is what we're seeing, people are unemployed, he does not know how to make deals, he has actually

painted himself into this wall and he has nancy pelosi and chuck schumer who understands the institution of not only the legislative branch but also also presidency. >> we learned that jared kushner and mike pence have been the point people going back and forth. we played a game yesterday where is mitch mcconnell. >> he's here now. >> so this conversation has been happening. but what do you make of again the way that this was put together, the degree to which there has been outreach from the white house to republicans on capitol hill? >> but the problem with this is the wall, right? because i've settled seflt cases on every my 30 years of practice of law and when someone tells you it is a nonstarter, it is a nonstarter. you can't compromise if you have something on the other side. so the way we got here is that this president just you simply continues to nts with a twant t. democrats have said no and he doesn't believe it. >> you've had a client who pushes back. you might say this isn't

rational, but he or she will push it. >> and he or she is paying the bills too. president trump continues to push the wall and that is not good negotiating, that is being being hard headed. so this is why daca and the -- why is he offering them in the presses on press as opposed to reaching out directly? they passed legislation to open the government. they say open the government and we can talk about these things. and you rejected the same deal a couple years ago when you agreed do and then you walked away because of conservative pressure. so this is his closing of the government, and he is stuck with it, he has to live with it and he has to figure out out to get out of it. >> and lee, what do you make of the way that it happened yesterday? it was supposed to be at 3:00, it was moved to 4:00, another address where it is the president talking to cameras. that is not his gift i think it is fair to say.

i will say, talking about, wall, but he was stumbling over -- he ends up saying wall, but barrier. >> and you could sort of tell when he threw in a words of his own in a few instances. that may not be his strength, but theater is his strength and this was about theater. i think one of the big things that is happening here, he knows that he is taking the blame for this shutdown and the more we start to see the real world of facts, everyone just missed their first paycheck, they will miss their second paycheck in a few weeks and that has created a really terrible situation and really negative sent. -- sentiment. but it is a nonstarter. the democrats have said we're not everyone goesh yanegotiatin government is open about and president trump's previous efforts to strip daca are still tied up in court, so there is less pressure for them to feel -- that will be who knows how long that will go on. and so the likelihood here, nonstarter is the word. >> evan, she brings up what mick

mulvaney says the gambit is. another pay period will be a pivotal moment. what do you make of the strategic side of this, of the white house saying we'll put this out here, this will given us the upper hand? >> i think the white house has never been known for strategery. >> this administration. >> but i think that the democrats made a mistake by flat out rejesktsing it. 800,000 workers and that is not counting on the contractors. local economies are getting decimated by this. not just d.c., but in missouri, in kansas, all across the country. >> but he didn't say that yesterday -- >> the speaker rejected it flat out. what would have been a better response showing that they trying to work is if they said very don't like this, but this is an opening salvo. unfortunately the house is out of session this week. that is a really bad look when you are not there in d.c. going out there.

and listen, i don't think that this wall is a great idea. i think that it is a low gis if i logistical boone doingle, but mistakes are making a lot of mistakes when people are talking about the experiences how they have to go on go fund me to be able to pay their bills. >> but you presume that the democrats are responsible for this in any way. and they are not. >> no, they are not responsible. but they are responsible enough to -- >> they passed ten different bills to open up this gechlts. and mitch mcconnell and the senate gop and the president won't even consider it. >> first of all, mitch mcconnell -- >> hold on. but for the wall, this government would be open and you can't get around that. >> mitch mcconnell had the rug pulled out from under him by the white house. >> that is his personal problem. >> house democrats should -- hold on. >> this is trump's problem and his headache and where he's put this country. >> i think that the important

thing for democrats to do, they need to come back and go right into session and keep passing the bills. >> they have done that. >> they are not back this whole week. >> republicans are out of town too just to be fair. >> yeah, the senate is back. >> so let's put this way. evan makes a major point that it is not just the 800,000 workers. we're talking about baby sitters, waitresses, bus boy, hundreds of thousands of people not making money. but donald trump sat in front of nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and said the trump shutdown would be mine and i own it and it is mine. and it is going to be me. >> and i won't blame the democrats. >> and now all of a sudden we are not going to do the both sidesism. >> that is not both sidesism. >> he had two years to get the funding for this wall because he couldn't do it. he does not care about the american public because he just assumes that they can go to their daddies and get more money.

they cannot. we know this is a serious crisis and it is only donald trump, mitch mcconnell and the gop senate that should be responsible. >> hold on. democrats are in power now and after a certain point -- hold on. hold on. we've seen in the past two federal election cycles where a lot of the country has been asking washington to work and we're seeing the same games again and again where nothing gets done. yes, i know democrats are trying, but question need we ney harder. my party is not guilt-free. donald trump owns the shutdown, but democrats going out of town and it didn't look like they are working terribly hard. and you can go on tv shows and say democrats are passing all these spending bills, but where re this? >> they can't move forward. >> they should be storming the -- >> hold on, hold on. hold on. >> you won't do anything with it. these where the bills to open the government, sign them and trump won't sign them. >> from evan's point, from scott's point as well, what we heard yesterday was the opening

salvo in these negotiations. presumably conversations have happening behind closed doors and if they haven't, what does that say? >> i don't think that they have been. this proposal was not the product of any discussion with the democrats. this was bringing it to the people. >> or republicans for that matter. >> so i think that -- again, i just think that the president is getting increasingly fenced into a corner. and this is just going to worsen as things go on. it seems like a real logjam and i don't think that anything will change on any side. >> there is speculation that the national emergency thing is not off the table yet. you ha members of the administration saying that yesterday. he didn't call for it, but it could still happen. your thinking on that about that. >> not yet. that is probably like his last ditch effort. this is a man who ran several businesses with no board of directors. so the fact that he doesn't consult with mitch mcconnell or other republicans lets us know he is not used to talking to anyone. he thinks he is the smartest one

in the room. so he thinks that they will come around, they will figure out the wall situation. that is not going to happen. this is billions of dollars that democrats have said time and time again they won't give this president. >> and scott, last thing. >> the national emergency simply won't map. it is not going to happen because if it was a national emergency, it would have been done already and he is using it as a political employ. >> emergencies call for fast action. >> democrats would be in court within an hour of him declaring that national emergency and i don't think a federal judge in the land would grant it dichb how much time has passed. >> i think can still pull that out of his hat. never say never. >> but that gives him an out with being able to blame -- >> you're right. but the judge won't do it. but more importantly, he would still in one scenario, he would still have to go to the congress to get the money or secondly if he starts to reappropriate d.o.d. money, he is pulling money from other projects to the

detriment of those projects and then put it on the national border. he has to defend that. he can't defend it in court or politically. >> we'll come back in a moment and be talking about it throughout the hour. it is a reckoning for political journ a journalism. how the fallout other than the explosive buzzfeed news piece is playing out, next. ing out, next. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today. ♪ p3 it's meat, cheese and nuts. i keep my protein interesting. oh yea, me too. i have cheese and uh these herbs.

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amidst all fallout over the blockbuster report that president trump allegedly directed his former attorney to lie before congress, buzzfeed tho this morning still standing behind its reporting. this is the details of why robert mueller chose to dispute the finding. why was the statement released at all by the special counsel's office but left so much room for interpretation. i'm going to read this statement here that we got from the special counsel. buzzfeed's description of specific statements to the special counsel's office and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office regarding michael cohen's congressional testimony are not accurate. i mentioned this piece in the "washington post." writing about the back and forth. people familiar with the matter said that the special counsel's office meant that the statement to be a denial of the central these cease of the buzzfeed story particularly those that referenced what cohen had told the special counsel and what evidence the special counsel had gathered. there was for a few hours here a whole lot of ambiguity about

that first statement i read from the special counsel. people thought it might have referred to a paragraph in the buzzfeed story and now according to the "post" it seems the whole thing was called in to question. what are the ramification? >> i think that it will take longer to play out. so far no other news organizations have corroborated this, but this is the weekend. we have to see what will play out here. but it was a vague statement. and it is also -- does it imply that everything else that has been written about the investigation has been true because they never came out and said anything before. so that is there side note. but this is sort the of becoming a he said/she said. ben smith is coming out and forcefully saying twice now we have reconfirmed, we stand by our reporting. and these two reporters have done very credible work on investigations into the trump

tower haand russia before. so -- but on the other hand, the spokesperson for mueller is taking issue with the way that they asked for comment. and so it is getting a bit more into the weeds. and i suspect this will play out for a few more days. >> and yesterday virginia raised a good point. and that is you get this denial from the special counsel's office and people seemed eager to take it at face. if you were doing some reporting and a source said that is not true, that often isn't the case. what do you make of that, just attitudely how we feel about the special counsel's office? doesn't speak often. through legal filing mostly. there are a whole host of people who say we'll let mueller have his say in the end. >> well, i think so many people want a particular outcome. and i think that we have to remind ourselves just because you want something to happen doesn't necessarily mean that it is happening. and so i think people on the left who really want this president to sort of be seen as

the charlotteton that he is and waiting for mueller are with a big gotcha, any sort of crumb because mueller has been so quiet and the leaks have been almost nonexistent, any little drip many people are holding on to saying see, this is evidence, like it is going to happen. right? many people are hoping this would happen january 21st of, you know, 2019. or 2017. and so we're waiting. i think that the biggest problem that i have is that it falls in to the hands of the president where, you know, i think his biggest -- he's done a lot of things to damage our democracy. one of the greatest things that he's done will have the most long standing effects is really calling in to question truth, facts and our media. and if we think about medias at fourth branch of government, he's essentially are said anything that you hear that is not favorable to me is fake. and so if he doesn't like the news, he callings it fake news. and i think the long standing

effects of calling truth and facts in to question on both sides is really problem be matt tick. >> but this gave him a huge opportunity to come in and side with mule remember. you will -- mueller. >> he protests too much. if mueller wanted to deny that story and he has been talking loud through his pleadings, so i'll take exception to you there, if he wanted to deny it outright, he would deny it and if he felt the need to deny it, he would come out and do it. this was a new answer new ansua statement. the most important word is specificity. if he wanted to deny it, he could deny it. i think they took exception with how it was being portrayed but not the substance. because generally based on

cohen's three and whplea and wh about his deal, that makes sense. so i don't see it as an outright denial. i think mueller was more concerned about the nuance might send us over the top, dems over the top to start impeachment proceedings. >> this became a investigatives those impatient about this process. plenty of people saying if mueller has this, he needs to make it public. enough waiting. >> and i think mueller will let us know what he has when he has it. and that is important. but there is a real important thing we're missing here. >> there a he's no tlot he's no here. >> and that will be in the report. the most important thing that happened with that denial on friday is that everybody who has been talking and defending mueller saying this is a man of integrity was proven right are. because mueller knew this would be seized on by the president's

allies and they did. and mueller and the 13 angry democrats whomever they may be, they went out and are adhering to the truth and that is what matters at the end of the day. and i thank robert mueller for putting out this statement and buzzfeed if they did get the story wrong, there will be a lot of problems there. >> they have doubled down. >> and the reason why mueller is taking so long is because we're dealing with a corrupt man for the past four decades where he's pulled one string and now so many things are falling out. what we thought might be a two month enterprise is now in-defendant. > indefinite. coming up, we'll ask a california congressman how all the democrats feel. ♪

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this is "up." as we start another day, we are where we were on day 30, talks are stalled and there is no end in cite to the government shutdosight to the government shutdown. democrats firmly rejecting the president's offer for daca in exchange for funding for the wall. more than 800,000 federal workers stuck in the middle of this. joining us now, a democratic

congressman from the state of california. right before we came back from break, a couple tweets from the president. let me use one to tee up my first question to you if i could. quote, nancy pelosi and some of the democrats turned down my offer yesterday before i even got up to speak, he writes. they don't see crime and drugs, they only see 2020 which they are not going to win. best economy exclamation mark. they should do the right thing and allow people to get back to work. let me ask you first of all, if anything from what the president proposed yesterday is something that you could consider. what do you make of what he offered yesterday in the diplomatic room? >> thanks for having me today. first of all, let me say day 30 of shutdown, this president said he would be proud to own it. we just have to get back to work. i'm ask position the president please stop holding 800,000 workers hostage. get government back to work. get folks back their paychecks. and then let's start to

negotiation a solution to this problem. the president talks about drugs and crime. let's deal with the facts. i sit on homeland security. 90% of the drugs coming into this country come through the ports of entry. if he really wants to stop drug flow, let's work on more personnel, better technology, more drug sniffing dogs. made 00 he what t that's what the border agents tell me when i visited ports. they don't talk about a wall, they talk about what they really need to do the job which is dogs, technology, more colleagues on the line. >> let's go there. i've heard criticism around this table and in other parts of the press as well that the democrats need to be clear about what they want to propose. a colleague onset saying republicans have advanced something, democrats need to respond in kind. where do you see the negotiations going now that we

have what we have from the sfld. >> president? >> secretary kelly met with the congressional spanish caucus and he put out a great proposal on immigration, securities. within two hours, the president tweeted that is not my deal. secretary kelly is on his own. we have a president that keeps changing the goalposts. a president that when you are ready to cut the deal changes the terms. so it is very difficult to deal with the president. but nonetheless i think it is important open government up, get those 800,000 workers back to work, and let's sit down and cut a deal. >> and i know he have vane hava has a question for you. >> with the security fence act of 2006, we are still seeing over 120 federal casesvane van has a question for you. >> with the security fence act of 2006, we are still seeing over 120 federal cases arguing over the land. why haven't democrats brought that up because i think it is a potent argument 37. >> we have been working on the

imminent domain issue and a lot of issues. but the president has a louder voice, a bigger bully pulpit to address these issues from. i personally as a member of help land security have been going down to the border and i've been talking to my agents. they ever -- they have been telling mean it comes to security for this country last year for example we caught 37800 known suspected terrorists at airports. we caught six crossing the mexican border. we caught about 100 crossing the canadian border. these are the facts we need to get out. but as you know, the president takes the day when it comes to messaging as opposed to us working on these issues day to day. >> if you had a constituent asking you what will happen tuesday when you get back to washington, what is your answer to that? where do things go from here? i mentioned the next pay period, the white house sees it as pivotal, a turning point as they see it.

what will happen on tuesday when you get back to town? >> it is interesting you ask that question because i do have neighbors that work for the border patrol and i have them ask me when am i going to get paid. and i told them we want to get back to negotiating. first of all, we want to make sure that those 800,000 workers are no longer hostages. let's get them off the table, let's get them to start working, let's pay them, let's make sure they can pay their rent, daily expenses. and then let's start working on regional national border security. that is the way it should work. i don't understand why the president is squeezing us, why is he putting his foot on the necks of all these workers. they have nothing to do with this fight. let's sit down, have the four republican democratic leaders with the president lock them up in a room and have them cut a deal. >> all right. the gentleman from california, thank you very much for the time.

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preached are both closed because of the shutdown. and steve king criticized this week. and ceo of the naacp is joining us. how do you honor the man on the day. what will you be thinking about tomorrow as you look at the state of our could you ntry tod? >> when you look at the level of intolerance and racism from the white house, the real question we should be asking as we consider the legacy of dr. kin is wrapped in the letter when he talks about men and women remain silent in the face of discrimination. so will we continue to be silent whether through xenophobia, the fervor around the wall, that impact having an effect to over

800,000 federal employees and families who have missed paychecks because he gave a promise that another country will pay for a wall and now he wants the american people to deliver on it. we need to think about king's legacy, not only about what he did, but what we should be doing about americans and not remain silent. >> what did you make of what we saw on capitol hill over the last week? congressman steve king of iowa said reprehensible things for an awful long time, there was an interview in the "new york times" that led to what happened, him being reprimanded by some of his republican colleagues. i'll read a tweet in which he thanks a conservative talk show host for powerfully clarifying on rush limbaugh the high stakes in my fight in defense of western civil 60ization saying left and mccarthy seek to destroy me to making this point. what do you think of the interview and also the long

backlog of things that steve king has said? >> i think a step in the right direction to strip him of his committee chairmanships. the next question that i will have for congress, when will his words require a vote of censure. this is an individual who have long displayed his level of racism and his glory for a past that 1450 ha should have never been because of intolerance. so when will the congress say enough is enough, we'll censure you. and what about the residents in his district, will they stand up and call for some type of recalled election. >> and when i think about dr. king's legacy, i'm on the board of trustees of a college that his legacy is strong there, it seems like race relations have ebbed and flowed and right now it seems that it is flowing

further right. when dr. king led us, i wonder what he would think broke thabo ebb and flow. clearly african-americans are doing better, but we seem to have moved further right now and race relations have been the same for obviously several years. but in any event, what is your comments on that? >> well, you know, if you think about 2008 when there was this question of are we in a post-racial society. and we learn that had we are not play particularly when conservative radio hosts and fox news for fo- fostered the culture of fear and the loss of civility that we see is something that i'm sure that you will be speaking out and we continue to speak out against. >> i have a question about the role of the nanaacp and the rol

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we've picked a country, but we'll be announcing it in the future. kim jung-un is looking very forward to it and so am i. we've made a lot of progress that has not been reported by the media. but we have made a lot of progress. >> president trump on the white house north lawn yesterday announcing a second summit with kim jung-un which he says is likely to take place next month. the president spent more than 90 minutes this week with north korea's lead negotiator. but there are still huge unresolved issues like for example what the word denuclearization means. it seems to mean one thing in

washington and another thing about pyongyang. and is this juthis is just days piece in the "post" that talks about the lengths he has gone to to conceal his conversations with vladimir putin. seventh months ha seven months have elapsed since he sat down with kim jung-un in singapore. what do you make of this announcement? there has been a lot at the middle level. but there really hasn't been a whole lot of real dialogue. >> 240, theno, there has not. and we knew there would be a second one, but there is no sign that we are anywhere close to defining what 3450usmutually ag upon dooenuclearization means. so i think? about the theater and the fact that he is the one that can do a

deal. the signals that it is getting closer to the people. but i wonder if there is just too much else going on. between the allegations of the buzzfeed story, between the shutdown, by the way, we haven't mentioned the fbi investigation into whether he -- >> lest we forget. >> yeah, so much that has been happening. so i think the response is muted. >> and it could be a distraction and also advantageous for kim jung-un as well to sit down with the president of the united states yet again. >> it is advantageous for president trump politically with his base to say he's done something. it is advantageous for kim jung-un politically. and geopolitically. kim jung-un is becoming a player on the world stage because donald trump's foreign policy when it comes to kim jung-un is hugs for thugs. he is rewarding bad behavior. when donald trump first came into open i was actually very happy with what he was doing with respect to north korea. he changed the attitude and

started sanctions chai noinese and businesses but now he is not doing anything to stop met wit got the photo-op and kim jung-un got everything. and we heard mike pence >> in the political stupidity. and trump is elevating the regime with numerous human rights violations. we used to stand up and say evil is evil. he wants to hug him. . i don't think this is want.

we don't know the love letters. is it fair to draw the line between the two? >> right. we see how he talks about the president of the philippines and the new president in brazil. we do know that many deal donald trump makes will make donald trump more money at the end of the day. we have 40 years of evidence. let's not pretent that just because he has the office of the presidency behind him that he's developed this moral conscience.

she led the kgb. there is something to be said. the fact that donald trump insists on secret meetings and making sure your notes are gone. there are no representatives there. this is something where your party should be outraged. the democrats are ringing the alarm but republicans should say we have never communicated in this way. >> the trump relationship is tote aly different than the putin relationship. >> reality is this. i think -- you know, you are right about north korea but i just want the basics. how many nuclear warheads do you have. with the numbers. so we can start a discussion.

with putin, look for the house drems to subpoena or hold hearings or do something on the people who are in the room with putin on at least two occasions when they took the notes and directed him not to talk. he's doing this at the direction and so look for them to either subpoena those interpreters or notes to get to the bottom of this. i've always suggested in this dialogue whether donald trump in those types of meetings -- he still owns his companies. he didn't put them in a blind trust. whether those private discussions are future or current and whether they are about foreign policy. if he sold that down the river for business deals then that is not only problematic, it could

be criminal. >> it is always about buzz and the economy with him. always the case in saudi arabia. he was so up front with the reaction to the killing of ja l jamal. the time he went over there and was left sitting in the lobby. >> it is true. even in saudi arabia, the actual dollar size. >> he pulled them out of thin air. >> it is okay. you killed the guy. we can get past that. >> i don't think we should read too much into this. >> and coming soon, trump tower pyeongchang. >> thank you for being here with me in this hour. in the next hour how the

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this is up. i'm david gura. a look at the increasingly unstable universe that is

washington, d.c. a tale of two worlds. there is trump mantle. >> i will take the mant al. i will shut it down. i will not blame you. the last time you did it, it didn't work. i will shut it down for border security. >> then planet congressional democrats led by senator majority leader nancy pelosi. >> if he sticks to his position for a $5 billion war. he will get no wall and will get a shut down. the facts that they are miles apart. they might as well be light years apart. it is like the two are living on separate planets and defer knitly not speaking the same language. a very men are from mars, women

are from veen anus situation. >> it will be a part problem. >> the fact is president trump must stop holding the american people hostage and creating a crisis. >> first that call to postpone the state of the union and the forced post penment of a delegation. >> do you view this as retaliation? >> i would hope not. i don't think the president would be that petty, do you. >> hoping that the president would end the shutdown that is now the 30th day. >> this is not a solid structure from sea to sea. >> these are steel barriers in high priority locations. it is time to