congressman, thank you so much, thanks for your time. do come back. >> thank you, craig. that will wrap up this hour of "msnbc live." i'll see you tomorrow morning on "today." "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," critical condition. the government shutdown entering its second month with no talks under way, prompting the speaker of the house to visit chef jose andres' pop-up kitchen for workers. >> i'm here to praise the federal workers for what they do and to praise chef andres for being an angel, really. >> as hundreds of thousands of federal workers are about to miss another paycheck. >> well, it's going to be two now. i don't even want to think about the third. >> i've been working since i was 13, you know, very consistently. and so that's all i know. i didn't have a plan "b." i didn't know what a plan "b"

look like. >> thankfully we made it through christmas without interruptions to our pay. here comes january and i'm still having chemo treatment. >> chef jose andres will be joining us live this hour. field of dreams? democratic presidential hopefuls trying to rise above an increasingly crowded field. some of the biggest names have yet to announce their plans. >> i'm prepared to fight that way. and i believe it will be a winning fight. >> but 17 or more other democrats say they love their country. why are you better than they? >> i think the voters will decide, ultimately. and hypothetically speaking. rudy giuliani now retracting what he told chuck todd on "meet the press" about a trump tower being negotiated in moscow all the way through the 2016 campaign. >> yeah, probably could be up to -- as far as october, november. our answers cover until the election. so any time during that period they could have talked about it.

and good day, everyone, i'm andrea mitchell in washington where leaders from both sides of the aisle are no closer to a shutdown compromise, leaving hundreds of thousands of americans scrambling to make ends meet. >> basically this is devastating. this political football that they're playing with the people, this chess game, is just terrible. to go without knowing that you're going to be -- if you're going to be on the streets tomorrow or next month or going without food. for some people this is their first time being at the food bank or having to come this way. and it's no fault of their own. maybe within the next couple of weeks i'll be out on the street, only because of the politicians over here in washington, no fault of my own. >> republicans say this week the president's latest offer to end the 32-day stalemate will get a vote in the senate where republican leader mitch mcconnell needs to get seven democrats' support in order to win. on the house side, speaker

pelosi appearing moments ago at that pop-up food kitchen in washington with celebrity chef jose andres is blazing a different trail, rolling out millions for border security but nothing for the president's watch. nbc's mariana atencio is with us, and nbc justice correspondent pete williams. all of you have far too many titles for me today. i know where mariana is, with the furloughed workers who are getting needed food from chef jose andres. >> reporter: not only the furloughed workers, andrea. you see a little bit of commotion behind me, that's because virginia senator tim kaine has just showed up at the food kitchen as well.

we'll try and get a couple of questions with him. as you mentioned, there are thousands of federal workers who are hurting in states like virginia and maryland and here in the nation's capital, steps away from the white house and capitol hill. this morning they were lining up outside this resource center next door to chef jose andres' pop-up kitchen were they're now able to get everything from toiletries to pet food to help paying their utility bills. the speaker, as you mentioned, paid a visit to the volunteers here. i pressed her on if there was anything from the bill that mitch mcconnell introduced in the senate that she would be willing to support. she instead chose to focus on the effort here. but so many of the workers, the federal workers here showing some signs of frustration, namely forrest pitt, the gentleman whose interview you played, saying all eyes are on washington and we want all of this to be over and to be able to get back to work. i'll see if i can grab senator

tim kaine for us, andrea. i'll kick it back to you and we'll hopefully get some sound from the senator on the ground. >> that you ank you, mariana. first, centrally, the dreamers, daca. we reconfirmed what you reported on friday, that the supreme court is not taking up the daca appeal that the government has made. that means the dreamer protection from the lower court is still in place. >> right. >> so this three-year protection that the president is offering is not really a three-year protection. the court is not going to rule on this, if they do, until the fall term. >> right. so the earliest for sure the supreme court could take this appeal would be next term, because this term is booked up, the docket is now full. that means the government must allow daca to be enforced. people in the program that have to renew every two years will be allowed to do that.

no new sign-ups. but that's 700,000 people. they'll be able to stay in the united states for at least another year. even if the supreme court took the daca appeal and took it at the beginning of next term in october, it would take months for the court to issue a decision. so we're looking at at least another year. >> so, ron klain, what is the pressure on nancy pelosi to accept what the president offered on saturday, since she knows there's a lot of pressure on her, first of all, from dreamers and their advocates not to accept anything that's temporary. but it's not even going to come up, they're protected at least for another year. >> it's an offer that's no offer at all from the president. i mean, look, the president is basically saying, hey, if you don't give me the wall that i'm holding the government hostage for, i'll try to take these dreamers hostage and then i'll promise not to hold them hostage. except the point is, as you and pete just mentioned, a court has already said you can't hold them hostage. so trump's offer is really no offer at all. >> mariana atencio has caught up with tim kaine, let's listen to what he has to say on whether or

not there are possible talks. >> to shut the government down and hurt people to do that, he said he would shut the government down, he would be proud of it. i don't see how any person, any american, much less an american president, could say they're proud of this. who would say they're proud of this? >> reporter: does it make sense for the democrats to be so entrenched when people in virginia are hurting? >> you're misstating it. democrats are not for the shutdown. who said he would shut down the government? the president. who said he would be proud of it? the president. who said it would go on for months or years? the president. democrats have passed bills to reopen the government. who is blocking it? the senate majority leader. what a great crew, thank you, guys, for helping. >> as you were just saying, the pressure is not really on the democrats. >> right. the president did say he would own the shutdown. and he shut down the government to get funding for a wall which he said mexico was going to pay for. he had two years to get the

republicans to pay for it, they didn't pay for it. and the democrats don't feel any pressure to pay for this wall that neither the republicans nor mexico would pay for. speaker pelosi will put a bill on the floor again to open the government without conditions. let's open the government and then have a conversation about border security. >> rick tyler, mitch mcconnell is going to supposedly this week start procedural measures and on wednesday they're eyeing a vote on what the president proposed. but he has to pull over seven democrats. how likely is that? >> extremely unlikely. if the president were serious about border security, you can't be serious about border security if you're not paying the people who secure the border. you can't be serious about aviation security when you're not paying the people who check the passengers and check the baggage and who guide the plane, air traffic controllers, from takeoff to touchdown. none of these are serious

proposals. the president has offered nothing new. and now the supreme court has taken one leverage point, daca, off the table, they're now protected, that's a good thing. so, you know, the republicans have got to figure out that they're going to have to override this president. in the long run it will be a good thing for this congress to check the president, reopen the government and then move forward. they should set up a six-month escrow account for federal workers so in a future shutdown it would cost nothing, because it's an escrow account, and they should suspend and forfeit the vice president's pay, the president's and the cabinet. you can't do it for the president because that would be constitutionally limited but you can do it for everybody else. we've got to find a way to avoid these shutdowns in the future. >> pete, other issues that came up today, you had a busy day at the supreme court. the administration won a couple

of things, on, for instance, the transgender rights in the military. >> right. this was a big victory for the trump administration. it's not a decision, a final decision on the merits of this case, whether the proposed ban would be unconstitutional discrimination or not. but here is what happened. the president tweeted about this in 2017, saying i want to ban transgender military service. the pentagon ultimately changed the policy. that's when it was to go into effect, saying you can serve if you're transgender, you just have to serve as your biological sex, in other words don't be too open about it and don't seek gender reassignment surgery. that was immediately challenged by the courts, those courts put a nationwide hold on enforcing the policy but today the supreme court lifted it. that means the pentagon can put the policy in effect and we're back at the same ten to 12-month calculus again. the earliest the supreme court can hear this case is at least another year, so the pentagon has at least another year to enforce it. a 5-4 vote, the four liberals

saying they would keep the stay in place. you have to ask yourself would it have been different if anthony kennedy were still there instead of brett kavanaugh. and i don't know, because sometimes he was deferential to the military. >> and guns, the precedent from the supreme court on handguns has been the d.c. handgun law which was overturned by the court. >> so that was 2008, the supreme court said for the first time in our nation's history what the second amendment means. and all the court said is, it means you have the right to have a handgun in your home for self-defense. the court has studiously, consistently refused repeated requests to say, okay, what about guns outside the house. turning all those cases down. this new york case is different. it's a strange little law that only exists in new york city. it says you can't take your handgun outside the city limits. people who wanted to do target shooting outside the city and another guy who has another house outside the city wanted to take their guns outside. the supreme court said they

would hear this case. the supreme court said to the guy with the other house, if you can afford another house, you can afford another gun. >> and all of these issues are obviously going to make these legal precedents and also the initial decisions are going to make the court another 2020 issue coming up. >> no question. this is going to be a big issue in the campaign. also some mild piece of good news from my expect this morning, pete mentioned the decision on transgender rights was a 5-4 decision. justice ruth bader ginsburg well enough to cast her vote against that decision. that shows she's active and participating in the court's cases and hopefully will return to the court soon. >> good news from that score, thank you very much. ron klain, rick tyler, and of course pete williams here and mariana atencio at the food kitchen, thank you. celebrity chef jose andres will join us live later in the show. coming up, expanding field.

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california senator kamala harris jumping into the 2020 race, joining at least two other prominent democratic women senators, elizabeth warren and kirsten gillibrand. harris choosing her alma mater, howard university here in d.c., for her first public appearance as she jumps into a rapidly

expanding and diverse field. >> reporter: senator, joe biden has said that the test should be who is best able to defeat donald trump. why are you the best capable, the strongest democrat to defeat donald trump? >> well, andrea, let's start with this. i love my country. i love my country. and i feel a sense of responsibility to stand up and fight for the best of who we are. and i'm prepared to fight. and i know how to fight. and in particular, when we're talking about fighting for the values that we hold sacred and dear, when it comes to talking about how we fight for the american people and have leadership in this country that is focused on the needs of the people instead of self-interest, i'm prepared to fight that way. and i believe it will be a winning fight. >> reporter: but 17 or more other democrats say that they love their country. why are you better than they? >> i think the voters will decide, ultimately. >> joining me now, msnbc

contributor yamiche alcindor, white house correspondent for "pbs news hour," and nbc senior political editor mark murray, welcome all. mark, first to you, she enters the field with a lot of pluses. and you've pointed out also some minuses. how do you evaluate just her scorecard going in. >> maybe the biggest strength is she's almost able to replicate the obama path to the nomination. somehow if you end up winning iowa or overperforming there, go to south carolina where there are a lot of african-american voters who would decide that contest, then run up the score in the south plus in california, which moved up its nominating contest and that way you can end up seeing how someone could really win the nomination or get very close to winning the nomination. when you look at some of the minuses i see, i know beth and i have actually talked about this in california, when she was on the ticket in 2010 running for

state attorney general, she underperformed jerry brown and barbara boxer. brown and boxer won by double digits, she won by less than 1 percentage point. of course she wasn't as well-known. the question is can she actually perform. a lot of democrats think she has the potential, we just need to see how she performs on the stage. >> beth, to that point, she's far better known now, thanks to the kavanaugh hearings, the questioning of jeff sessions as well as some of the other big hearings she's been at on the judiciary committee. she's been given a platform and she's performed. >> yeah, sure. and she's certainly well-known to political junkies. she has a long way to go to getting widespread general recognition. same with all the other senators who are running, senator gillibrand. elizabeth warren may be a little more nationally known at this point, she's been around a while longer. we still have a very, very good feel of the candidates developing in terms of their credibility, in terms of their experience, in terms of their reputation. but they're still sort of

dwarfed by that elephant in the room, donald trump, who can grab the spotlight and the microphone from pretty much anyone at this point. it's going to be tough for any of these folks to sort of break out early from each other, because they're all going to be similarly positioned in terms of issues, and then break out with respect to the president, who as you know, andrea, continues to make news every single day and who could possibly determine how our hompblg of tcoverage of the going to go along by singling out opponents. he's gone after elizabeth warren in the past, gone after senator gillibrand as well. we'll see how he decides to play with all these different primary democrats running. >> part of that is on us, it's our role to evaluate the field and not always be reacting to a trump tweet. >> exactly. >> not letting him set the agenda for the democratic field. what joe biden has said, and that's the reason i asked that question yesterday, we've got to choose the person who can really defeat donald trump, assuming that he's on the ticket, and that has to be the going-in

assumption. yamiche, who is tough enough, who has that skill to pivot, to counterpunch, to go after donald trump when necessary? >> i think the democrat who decides to be blunt, who decides to be less politically correct, and decides talk about diversity and race in a way that people find relatable will be the person to beat donald trump. it will be very interesting to have these debates among the democratic candidates, to watch them really make their case to the american people, why they should be the person who can beat donald trump both on a debate stage but also in messaging, on twitter. donald trump is someone who very much understands the media. he's someone who is very quick about twitter, understands how to use that medium and talk to 40 million people every day if he wants to. what we'll see is democrats trying to not only debate donald trump but really try to beef up their political savvy. i should note, i've interviewed kamala harris several times, the last time in october, i sat down with her for an hour. she said basically we need a democratic candidate that's going to have to put truth to donald trump, who is not going

to pull punches. i think that's something she's planning to do. >> and in fact, mark murray, you've written on first read about the four bs, biden, bernie, beto, and bloomberg, and i want to add a fifth, cory booker. this is what he instagramed on sunday when he was in plains, georgia, getting a big endorsement. >> very glad to have you here this morning and hope you'll come back. >> thank you. >> i hope you run for president. >> thank you for saying that. your encouragement means more to me than you can imagine. thank you, sir. >> let's say five b's. >> yes, and booker would be the fifth b. >> he says he's close to joining in. >> i wouldn't be surprised if he does. to me, the composition of the field matters so much. what the different lanes are. we posed those four b's on bernie sanders being in the race or out of the race would be a huge development right away. the same for joe biden.

beto o'rourke, mike bloomberg with his money. cory booker has been in the senate longer than kamala harris, he's from the northeast so he might have a different path. the composition, who the people are running, and timing matters too. as you and i have seen, sometimes the person who jumps out to be the frontrunner in the field falls back and the person we weren't even focused on ends up winning the nomination. who hits that stride at the right moment is the person we'll be talking about a year and a half from now. >> beth fouhy, one of the things is the composition of the party, of the democratic electorate. lawrence o'donnell was talking about this last night, a number of candidates, like kirsten gillibrand from very red troy, new york, who had a perfect nra record and had to revise and extend, if you will, her record. some say kamala harris also has to explain her tough da's role

in those controversies, they're all moving to the left to meet where the democratic voters seem to be. >> if you're running for the president of the united states, you should be vetted, and the fact that you've changed positions over your career should be explored and explained. i don't think there's any problem with that, you're looking at somebody over the course of a long career. on the other hand, it's fair to say right now, yes, the energy is on the left with progressives like alexandria ocasio-cortez and others driving the conversation around issues. but really, andrea, if you look at those folks in the race at this moment and the others we expect to get in, there's not a lot of daylight on issues among them. they're all generally for some sort of improvement on health care to the point of perhaps medicare for all, some tax changes to the tax code to allow more middle class tax cuts instead of more millionaire tax cuts. there's not a lot of space there. it's about which candidate can win. they're happy with all these

candidates on the issues. they're looking for a winner. >> to that point, biden yesterday explained himself, trying to get past some of his very tough -- when he was chairman of the judiciary committee, some of his tough law enforcement roles which in the post black lives matter era are controversial with the democratic voters. it's so good to see you, beth fouhy, mark murray, yamiche alcindor, all. and coming up next, cleanup duty, rudy giuliani taking back his latest comments about the trump tower in moscow, ahead on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. on msnbc ♪ ♪

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the bad news and normalize it before it comes out from mueller or some other source is that one of the things that he might be doing? >> andrea, i do think so i think, you know, we really -- all of us have to take with at this point he's not, standing alone, a credible source.

i do think there's more of a strategy to this than some of us are giving him credit for. i think it isre meant to confus and distract. and that is a tactic in and of itself and it works a little bit, because people i throw up theirec hands and say, i don't know what happened, i'll wait forha mueller. so we aren't reacting in real timein to these pretty stunning revelations like you just s sai which is that the president of the united states was -- then-candidate for president was negotiating for a business deal with one of our enemies and he was already talking favorably about them in ways that -- about russia in ways that no one would have ever dreamed. that not because guiliani has told us but because mueller has told b us. sometimes we havele to step bac and go back to what we really do know, not from giuliani but from mueller's filings. we know quite a bit, actually. we know that cohen lied under

oath about the c timing of thes negotiations. we know that he was lying under oath while trump was lying to the public. we know that cohen coordinated with some people in the administration about those lies. we don't know exactly who or what form that coordination took. so there was this effort. and we know that people lie about those things for a reason. and, you know, i mean, i think that there are probably different ways to get to t the answer but i thinkt that muell will give us that answer. >> and peter, i think you have some breaking news on state of the union. >> yeah, we do have a little more information about the state of the union. a senior administration official tells me within the last few minutes that the working plan right now here at the white house is for the president to deliver that p state of the uni on january 29th as planned. its location is still to be determined. i raised that question with this official aboutti where it woulde hosted and they would only say that right now, the

speechwriters here are working on what are in effect one speech but with different passages, passages that might be delivered if it were to bet here at the capitol as initially planned for january 29th, or a separate speech, similar speech but different passages, if it were to take place elsewhere, a location outside washington, d.c. that has not been identified. to sort of better get an understanding of the political pressure the white house is trying to putpr on this situati. multiple sources also confirm that theip white house sent a letter orhi perhaps it came in e form ofap an e-mail but a messa to the sergeant at arms at the capitol requesting what is in effect aha walkthrough before t state of theth union, so going aheadoi as planned with their intentionla to deliver that speh on january 29th. again, andrea, where it takes place, we just don't know. >> this might also be an attempt, alpeter, to fix somethg that came out of theet speaker' domain yesterday, which was that the president never formally wrote an acceptance of her

invitation before all this happened, before the shutdown to speak on the 29huth. >> he talked about but didn't do it ined writing, which is required. >> being a new president, trying to deal with all of these things, it's a learning process. mimi rocah, peter alexander, thank you very much. coming up, growing danger. an fbi agents' group says the government shutdown is a threat to national security. former assistant to the fbi sean henry will be right here. and coming up, celebrity chef jose andreas feeding furloughed federal workers right here in washington, joining us next.ed next house, eh? well, you should definitely see how geico could help you save on homeowners insurance. nice tip. i'll give you two bucks for the chair. two?! that's a victorian antique! all right, how much for the recliner, then? wait wait... how did that get out here? that is definitely not for sale! is this a yard sale?

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last night, my wife, who is also an agent and is also my boss, we delivered food to our office for those in need. the fbi family comes together in times of crisis. it is truly sad that we must resort to this because we are being let down by our elected officials. >> that was thomas o'connor, the president of the fbi agents association. the government shutdown delivering a blow to the fbi, an agency already under siege from the president. joining me now is sean henry,

former executive senior director of the fbi. sean, what about the agency? already for two years now taking hits verbally from the white house, from the president, and now the furlough. how is the furlough impacting national security? >> well, it certainly is, andrea. you've got an organization with some proud citizens, men and women who are trying to protect this country. this is impacting them because it's a distraction and they're feeling pain. so it's absolutely impacting morale. i heard tom o'connor saying agents are on the streets every day doing their job, trying to protect the citizens, but the fact is, many of them, their mind is not in it. they're worried about how to feed their families, how to make their mortgage payments. when you have that type of distraction it certainly is a problem. the other piece that's important to know is this is also impacting their operations. while you've got people who are

actually showing up on the job every day, they don't have the funding to pay for the critical infrastructure to run their operations. things like using money to pay informants for intelligence in national security cases, counterterrorism cases, gang cases, those sorts of things. the fbi is a proactive organization that is meant to disrupt operations and prevent attacks. if they don't have the funding to put into their operations, it's absolutely going to impact their ability to do so. that is a national security issue, andrea. >> i mean, the irony is here, shawn, as you know better than anyone, we aring aing this national debate over a wall, over border security. they're making a national security argument. yet you have an agency dedicated to counterintelligence, to busting up drug gangs and drug seizures coming in from out of the country, and they're being hit, as you point out, the ability to pay sources and other things that are essential in

ongoing and current investigations. >> when we're talking about national security, we're thinking about here and now, what's happening today, what's happening tomorrow and next week. you've got agents now and fbi employees that will not have received a paycheck for a month. i'm thinking long term about the national security of this country. espionage, one of the basic tenets for national security for foreign intelligence officers, is to look for vulnerable people that they can get access to. and two of the driving factors in those cases are money and employee attitude. and we've got 800,000 employees who haven't been paid and i would say that many of them are quite disgruntled. make no mistake, foreign intelligence services are looking for people that they can go out and try to compromise. people are posting on their social media that they can't put food on the table. they're going to be targeted long term. this is a national security issue, andrea. >> shawn henry, thank you so much, thanks as always. this morning right here in

washington house speaker nancy pelosi made a stop at a pop-up food kitchen to thank volunteers handing out meals to americans in need, federal workers. jose andres is the james beard award winning chef and chairman of world central kitchen, just back from puerto rico where he was doing relief and also sustenance for the people of puerto rico. jose, it's great to see you, thanks for everything you're doing. tell us the significance of what you're trying to do here for federal workers. >> well, imagine the situation. we are right on pennsylvania avenue, not too far away from the white house and congress. and we have thousands of federal employees in line, waiting for a plate of food. i declared a few days ago from puerto rico that we were in a national food emergency. why i say that, because i know, i see many mothers, single mothers with children, that they're having right now a very difficult time taking care of their needs. the very least we can do is to

bring a plate of food to every single family of all those amazing federal workers without salaries. and that should end, it should end quick and soon. >> tell us, what are you making available to them, for the federal workers who can come to your kitchen? >> well, today is a very big day. we are around 8,000 federal employees every single day, we're providing them hot soup, it's very cold right now in washington, a sandwich or a very good bowl with grains and vegetables and protein. but next door today we open like a market where those same federal employees that stop here for food, they can stop next door and get an entire bag of vegetables and fruits, rice, so they can cook at home. also we have great partners like verizon, where they're helping them with their bills, or pepco, the electric company here in washington.

so all the companies that can provide relief to federal workers can come here under one umbrella. we're only doing this in this city. later on today we'll be announcing the deployment of 30 more kitchens all across america, and for different states, including puerto rico. this will, if anything, get bigger. >> jose, we've known you for a while now. where do you get your resources to finance all of this? is this all from private contributions? >> this is a good question. if i had to wait to have the money to do this, i will be waiting for weeks. as federal workers are going hungry. so we are doing almost the same way we do in other places. we start doing it, then people find out about it, and then we have more donors, bigger donors, corporations, and donations of food, in kind donations. and at the end we hope between all of that we will be able to pay for the cost of this

operation. but again, america cannot afford to have millions of americans going hungry. i think that we forget that the government is here to serve the people of america, not the people of america to be hostage of the lack of work and lack of finding a resolution and common ground by our politicians. so as people don't have food, unfortunately, we're going to be expanding our operations. >> jose andres from the world food kitchen, thank you. we'll have more on our website and on social media as well. and coming up, team of vipers. a new tell-all book from inside the oval office depicting an out of control white house. the inside scoop, next right here on "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us on msnbc. >> tech: at safelite autoglass.

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the sergeant of arms asking for a walk-through to occur some time this week. a week after pelosi called on the president to delay the address until the government reopens. a.b. stoddard, associate editor and columnist at real clear politics and nbc contributor, sam stein, politics editor for the daily beast. the shutdown and the obvious fact that nancy pelosi is not going to have him come while the shutdown continues. >> right. >> they may have an outside rally or some other venue? >> some west wing-type moment where he walks up to the hill. i always suspected that donald trump would do something. he's not one to sort of relinquish the stage. the question is where will he do it? will he get an invitation from the senate? another oval office address? will he go to the house, bang on the doors? he'll make a speech. he made one speech before and it didn't move the needle. i'm not sure if another big ticket speech will do anything different. >> a.b. what we're hearing from

our white house folks, peter alexander's been all over this is they're also preparing the speech. passages in case the speech is given at a different venue. maybe not in washington. >> well, i mean, as sam said, he's going to give a speech. it's expected they will be carrying out the plans. it's hard to see he didn't like oval office stresses. maybe he takes the invitation to the senate chamber. even though initially the speaker said it was about security concerns and then the department of homeland security pushed back and said it wasn't a problem, it's still not appropriate to carry out business as usual while the government shut down. it's just not. it is not an emergency. it can be postponed. it can be in the house chamber whenever the government reopens. the idea of him just like he did on saturday, he made a nouncement, he gave an oval office address about the

shutdown. the idea it's bgoing to change things doesn't seem very powerful. i know he wants to give it. he likes to give it in front of the -- he likes to be televised. i just don't know it's going to do much. probably wise to put it off. >> speaking of speakers, the relationship between the president and the current speaker not so good. how about the former speaker? according to this new book, team of vipers, by chris sims, a real insider from the white house staff, there are passages here according to phil rucker who has a copy of the book, our colleague, who we'll be speaking to tomorrow, the fact is that the president was going after paul ryan in one of these passages. he said paul, do you know why democrats have been kicking your expletive deleted for decades? because they know a little word called loyalty. trump called ryan. why do you think nancy has held on this long? every time she opens her mouth, another republican gets elected. they stick with her. why can't you be loyal to your president, paul? and then the book has him

leaving the room actually when the speaker is presenting. when paul ryan, the republican speaker, is presenting his health care bill to the republican president. >> that first reference was when paul ryan spoke out after the charlottesville incident in which trump said there were good people on both sides. one is trump expected loyalty from the speaker of the house. even though he had just praised white supremacists rallying in charlottesville. the second thing is paul ryan ultimately gave him the loyalty after heed an m ed an moed an him. and walked out of the meeting in i with paul ryan was giving the presentation. shows how they were willing to put disagreements aside because they assume trump would lead them to some sort of political promised land. >> there doesn't seem to be much more willingness by republicans to stand up on the senate side either, a.b. >> it's remarkable, actually,

sam and i were talking about this. the yo the idea that they had unified republican government for two years. the wall was never a priority. border state republicans are on the record opposed to it. the idea that they now refuse to open the government, he's going to just do what he wants them to do. >> a.b. stoddard, sam stein, it's great to have you here, thank you. e, thank you. s watching too, saying [indistinct conversation] [friend] i've never seen that before. ♪ ♪ i have... ♪ the nation's largest senior-living referral service.

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that's it today. month two for the partial shutdown. remember, follow the show online, on facebook and on twitter, @mitchellreports. here's chris jansing. >> ali velshi and stephanie ruhle are on assignment and they will join us live from davos, switzerland, coming up. first, it's tuesday, january 22nd. let's get smarter. >> president trump's proposal over the weekend, where are you and your conference on that right now? >> the event at first when we heard the president was going to make a proposal, we were optimistic that he might be reaching out to open up government so we could have this discussion. then we heard the particulars and it was a nonstarter unfortunately. >> there are many ways he can deliver the state of the union address. i'm not going to get ahead of anything he would' nounce. >>