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with his poll. >> literally nothing is on the up and up. nothing. >> here has been doing this for 30 or 40 years. he is trying to get into paid sense. it's pitching for a certain kind of coverage. >> what are does that? >> that does it for our hour. "mtp daily" starts now. >> happy tuesday, nicole. if it is unique, thank you. it's f it's a day of the week and truth isn't truth, who needs retractions? welcome to "meet the press" daily. is it misinformation, disinformation and confusion. no matter what you call it, the president traffics in it. the mueller report possibly weeks away, the big question is,
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why is he doing this. why drop a bombshell multiple times and multiple places that the president was probably trying to score a huge business deal with russia during the campaign which is a huge admission on its face only to walk it back in a way that for many doesn't pass that smell test. it was a notable walk back operation. in one interview, he was afraid his tombstone would read rudy giuliani, he lied for trump. is he disclosing damaging information? is there a strategy at all. if there is, there are folks close to the president who don't think it's working. the senior official told us that the recent comments are not working and in this questioned why they are allowed to do interviews this. followed saying several people close to mr. trump have grown
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exasperated. note the silence we have heard from the president himself. if he was unhappy with his lawyer, we would most certainly about it by now. joining me for this conversation, correspondent for the new york times and contributor. with us on set, political reporter for axios. senior vice president at the center for american progress. michael, let's start with this. given his first thing on sunday morning, rudy giuliani decided three different times, i asked him this question. rudy giuliani decided to offer up had to new timeline. let me put it out there and follow with you the other side. >> the president you remember had conversations with him about it. >> throughout 2016. >> yeah, probably up to could be up to as far as october or november. our answers cover until the
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election. any time during that period they could have talked about it. >> just to clarify, talks of trump tower moscow went as late as october or november of 2016, even in some form. >> could be. >> as far as the president was concerned, an active project until at least october or november of 2016, an active deal? >> an active proposal. >> you guys reintrupreinterview later that day and he said the same thing with more definition. >> he has come out and different from the video. that was a phone call we had. two things are going on here. one is that giuliani from the beginning has tried to make this more confusing. their calculation is that public opinion is the only thing that matters. that's the only exposure he has.
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potential impeachment. the best strategy is confusion. he has thrown a lot of things at the wall to make it more hard to understand. if you are the average person, this is very confusing. the second thing that's going on here is that the investigation of the president and the mueller investigation itself has a lot of tentacles and they're all different language. it's hard to know the nuances and the story of each one. he knows how to say hi, goodbye, and thank you. he doesn't do the homework so he doesn't often know what he's saying. >> one of the ways i asked him this question was referencing the fact that i assume you had to answer this for mueller. this was part of your written answers. it sounded like to me not only in the interview you did with us and the interview he did with you that he is referring to what he put on paper or what the legal team put on paper to
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mr. mueller. is that the sense you are getting? >> that's my sense. the argument that they would make in trying to explain this in even more nuanced way, the president was only answering questions up to election day. they believe they are questions of executive privilege after that. we are making it more confusing for the average person. he did move the timeline and it is significant because obviously that piece of information had been out there, the public might have or probably would have had at least some people a different view of the president and what he was doing and saying at the time. >> we have an at the time. here is number six, guys. this is candidate donald trump mostly through the month of october and november about russia. take a listen in 2016. >> i have nothing to do with russia. i'm not involved in russia. >> zero. nothing to do with russia. >> i have no relationship to russia.
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>> what do i know about the russi russians? >> i don't have any deal with russia i have nothing to do with russia, folks. nothing to do. nothing to do with russia. this is a conspiracy between donald trump and russia. give me a break. i have nothing to do with russia. >> those last two, october of 2016. as mr. giuliani said to me, called it an active proposal. i don't know what part could be different. >> that's the funny thing or the interesting thing. president trump himself or candidate then would say i have nothing to do and no deals. now we are seeing how everyone around him doesn't know or doesn't remember or is lying about their russian contacts or the president's dealings in moscow and creating this big messy problem for them. as michael was saying, the president is someone who cares a lot about public opinion. that's what rudy giuliani is trying to do. he called them to retract and
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said this is how i would argue it in court. >> let me put you will full screen. president trump is involved in discussions to build a sky scrapener moscow. he is wrong. they're wrong. his personal lawyer said on sunday, i didn't say that. >> the times made up that quote? >> i don't know if they made it up. what i was talking about if he f he had those conversations, they would not be criminal. >> i think that if you noticed in all of these clips, the president always used the present tense or past tense. i wonder if he is going to try to hang this on the is kind of thing. >> you have given him that idea. >> they are trying to create the fog and enough confusion and enough false claims and enough
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retractions that nobody knows anything for sure that they allow some number of republican senators to oppose voting to convict him when the house passes articles which i think is likely. at this point it's like a boiling the frog situation. if you had gone to someone on the street and said within the next two years, we will find his campaign manager was sharing informs with oligarchs he was indebted to while changing it is republican platform with regard to russia and the president himself is having secret communications with vladimir putin and destroying the evidence, that's unacceptable, we can't vote for this guy. as it comes out, one step forward, two steps back, you get to a place where people are so confused or so numb to the whole thing, the incredible doesn't seem incredible anymore. >> for the mueller report confirms these things, people will say we heard this already
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and or already knew or the president himself can say this is not new. >> the frog does die at the end of that, right? >> the frog never lives, everybody. >> yes. >> i think that robert mueller is a step ahead of everybody else involved in this situation. he will present a case that is clear and if there is actual smoking gun there, it will be clear enough that even maybe the majority of republicans won't be able to walk it back regardless of the fog that rudy giuliani has been spreading the past couple of months. >> i guarantee you i already received e-mails from viewers wondering why do you bother interviewing rudy giuliani saying he's a false narrator. but we can't ignore the
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following. he has perhaps revealed this timeline. we don't know if he meant to or not. he did reveal the hush money payments. it looked like a gaffe. maybe it was a foaming of the runway. he has claimed within a couple of weeks that the president didn't collude, but others might have. the question is, should we interview rudy giuliani. is it news worthy if he retracts it? we are still debating it ourselves. >> we struggle with it as well. he is the president's lawyer. the president is under investigation. this is the person the president puts out there. it's hard to ignore the things he does and says. i think what we will see or what a lot of people around the president certainly want to see in the coming weeks is less of him out there. there is this effort to bench
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him in the coming days or weeks to try to get him off. there is a widespread and conclusion from folks around the president that what giuliani did this weekend was not helpful and successful. especially because the buzzfeed story and the mueller sometimes liked like a good thing for the president and some folks around him said look, why don't we get out of the way and let the buzzfeed story speak for itself and let mueller's statement be out there. by going out, they took that narrative away. >> but as i pointed out, the president in the past when he thinks giuliani has done something wrong, he corrected him. he said nothing. he tweeted nothing. that means i believe michael's reporting and i know of our reporting. i know what the staff wants. as we know, there is only one person's opinion that matters. >> he loves someone who is camera ready and will be a
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little crazy and confusing and do things. >> he doesn't think it's bad if we are confused. >> probably paying very close attention to the kyrons. he wants someone like giuliani and never afraid to tweet about sk and he would see a tweet if he was unhappy. >> the idea of objective knowable truth. the mueller report will be black and white. the president doesn't text. he doesn't e-mail. most of his conversations are not recorded. his memory is fuzzy at best. >> most seem to claim they might have had tapes. >> maybe. >> they kind of walked it back. on this point, i throw up my hands. >> you are right. giuliani is the perfect spokesperson for trump. you have to interview him because of the position he holds and you don't have to take the
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position to be 100% accurate because they are not. >> people disagree with the president's style of communicating, but he is working towards the ultimate goal and one of them is undermining robert mueller's investigation. giuliani has the goal with clearing president trump's name because he's the client and he doesn't do things in a pr, pc way. >> what do you believe rudy was retracting? the new timeline or that quote? sometimes you have to parse that. >> yeah. look, i'm not exactly sure myself. where it was and what he was trying to move. he was talking about speaking hypothetically about the president. it goes back to the goal of the entire thing. it makes it harder to understand. it muddies the water. it forces us as journalists and
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distracts us and going down the rabbit holes of different things he said. trying to parse words and understand retractions and about initial interviews. i can't see how that doesn't play into the confusion playbook. i can't -- juligiuliani has don this since april and the president obviously thinks that this is an effective tool for him. >> and again, i go back to he would find somebody else if he didn't have rudy. who would be doing this? jay had to -- he got caught lying on air and it was not intentional. he said i have new information. and guess who doesn't do television anymore. >> the number of people lining up for the law degree for this administration is not long. we are seeing this throughout the administration. it's harder and harder. they were not a-list coming in the door.
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if you are the president and you wanted the picture on buzzfeed? who else would you put out? >> has sarah sanders put that out at all? >> they want to sprayed themselvsprayed -- separate themselves from russia. if they say the wrong thing, mueller subpoena. >> exactly. if i remember the thinking in hiring him, too, he was good on and that's what drew trump to him if i remember our reporting. >> that are gives the whole thing a feel of something cooked up over hamburgers at bed minster. >> rudy talks to one person before he does an interview? >> the reason that rudy came on is that the president thought that he needed an advocate out there and he was the only person
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trying to push back on the investigation. he needed a spokes purpose and a fighter. that is essentially what giuliani has done. i think the president has been happy with a lot of it. i think that the president believes that there is one speed and one way of responding and that is to push and go as hard as you can and giuliani has largely done that. the problem is that there is other lawyers and advisers around the president who realize legally that does not help the president. it only hurts him. >> this whole segment, there is no doubt in my mind, the president is perfectly happy with how confused everyone is. he may be the only one. thank you very much. panel, stick around. still ahead, the busy bees. we are focusing on four candidates with major presidential buzz. r candidates with major presidential buz z. (clapping) every day, visionaries are creating the future. ( ♪ )
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welcome back. above all else, the moving goal post style for president trump is a bit confusing. according to a couple of our legal analysts, that may be the point as you heard us talk about previously. former federal prosecutors write the following. none of what he does is meant to convince a judge or a jury. it is meant to confusion people against shocking news before it arrives and to retain the president's good standing with his base. another one of the legal analysts is editor in chief of law fair. i want to go through the various ways that giuliani has done a similar thing. he seems to reveal something accidentally and you think oh, did he mean to do that? the most infamous thing being the stormy daniels payments where sean hannity goes i didn't know you were revealing that. now there is a pattern. this is not collusion and you go
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down the line. is that how we should interpret this? there was a deal through this. it was a hypothetical. >> the short answer is i don't know. one possibility is that it is the strategic disclosure of disadvantagious information in advance of when it's likely to break anyway and the stormy daniels payment is an example of that. some of this material, we don't know if it's true. somebody may have colluded, but it's not the president and he said actually i don't know of any who colludes. if you are releasing false information costra teejically that wouldn't be disclosed anyway, it's hard to see that as strategic rather than just goofy. one of the problems with giuliani is when he makes an admission against his client's interest which normally you would say wow, that's a
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significant statement. because we don't know it if these statements are true, we don't know what to read into them, whether there is a strategy or whether he is making stuff up as he talks. >> this puts us in a quandary. he's the president's lawyer. so that's what he is. it is hard to fact check him because we don't know until we have the mueller report. we are going to find out what this strategy is soon enough. but there definitely seems to be something here. >> i think there is definitely one possibility is as the article that you opened the segment with suggests, it's a strategy of ob fisication and confusion. another possibility is it's a strategy of being com pattive and pleasing the president who
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doesn't want a legal defense. he wants a pr defense. that's going out there in this fashion and fighting. >> these asides in courtrooms when a lawyer will say something he knows is going to get struck. it's an objection. jury, you weren't supposed to hear that. pretend you didn't hear that. he wants to get information to the jury that he is not legally allowed to get to. >> maybe. i want to raise a third possibility. this is just rudy giuliani shooting from the hip and doing his own thing. the president kind of likes it because it's combative, but it's not strategic at all. it's just a guy acting like a television pundit and we are attributing to him that he's acting like a lawyer. i will tell you this. bill clinton --
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>> he's a former u.s. attorney. this is not like he got his law degree at night school and never practiced. he's a u.s. attorney. you would think he has an idea of what he's doing. >> that's why we all have this reflex of taking it seriously. some deference to it and he's not just a lawyer or a u.s. attorney. he's representing the president of the united states. that said, in my adult lifetime, i watched a lot of private attorneys for the presidents of the united states. i cannot imagine. most people can't tell you who george w. bush's outside lawyer was. who george h. w. bush was represented by. it's hard to name one that was a little more high profile than the who represented bill clinton who went on a television show and made a spectacle.
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it's not the way lawyers behave. >> you are mueller and you are sitting there and you have the answers that they gave. i'll be honest, my assumption was on sunday when i was asking these questions is that he was giving me the same answers they wrote down to mueller. you are like oh. that's possible they talked about trump tower moscow until november. now i don't know what to believe. what is mueller thinking? >> mueller has the advantage as you started with. he has the advantage of knowing the answer to a fundamental question here. is rudy giuliani giving out bits and pieces of a reality in a strategic way as joyce and mimi hypothesized or is he just -- is there no relationship between the underlying record and what he is saying.
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i think how mueller looks at it very much depends on that. if he is looking at this and scratching his head and saying where is he getting that? that's a different animal than if he thinks he is trying to obfuscate people and confusion people by giving out little bits and pieces and preempting disclosures that will effectually come. >> i can't help but go out. this feels like the johnnie cochran defense for o.j. they were a public relations defense while the prosecutors were trying to prosecute evidence. >> they were doing it in front of a jury. it was clear in that setting what the strategy was in relation to an empanelled jury that they had to get one person to refuse to vote to convict. i kind of understand that strad
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g strategy. this one i am having trouble. >> i assume they have 13 and 15 u.s. jurors who are u.s. senators. coming up, even with mueller's report looming issue the media crisis facing the country is this ongoing shut down and the federal workers are about to miss another paycheck. >> well, it's going to be two now. i don't even want to think about the third. >> in the next couple of weeks, i will be out on the street through no fault of my own. only because of the politicians here in washington. f the politi here in washington hi i'm joan lunden.
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welcome back. tonight in 2020 vision, guess who is trying to make a bee line for the white house. the biggest gap is biden, beto, berny and bloomberg. >> i have an announcement to make. >> four bs with a lot of presidential buzz. all could reshuffle the field. joe biden has the name id, obama legacy and the ability to speak to trump country. he has baggage, too. >> i know we have not always gotten things right, but i always tried. >> he expressed regret for
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criminal justice issues. >> i wanted to say thank you. >> beto o'rourke is traveling the country. he said he is trying to clear his head. if he runs, he can energize younger and democrats of color. he would face a new level of scrutiny, too. >> we now have a president of the united states who is a racist. >> then there is bernie sanders, another b whose progressive anti-establishment lane is a lot more crowded than it was in 2016. finally, michael bloomberg. another b. the republican turned independent turned democrat may not have the constituency. his millions could redefine the race and create his own lane. >> keep our eyes on the real prize and that is electing a democrat to the white house in 2020. >> by the way, we didn't mention another b. sherrod brown is someone with progressive credentials of the
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two more bs for you during the break. our friend from south bend and our friend cory booker. b is your favorite letter in white house 2020. president trump will thrive a state of the union whether the government is open or not. they are moving forward with plans and speech writers are preparing separate passages if the speech ends up somewhere else. they will bring president trump's proposal on the floor thursday even though it will be doa in the house for those of you who don't know that one, it's dead-on arrival. no money for a border call even
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though that will be doa in the senate. 800,000 federal workers are likely to miss a second paycheck. jake sherman is coauthor of the political playbook and somebody who will just speak truth about how the world works. jake, let me start with you. why is mitch mcconnell putting a bill on the floor that has no chance of passage when he said he would not put a bill on the floor with no chance of passage. >> time goes on and the promises recede. the senate is voting on two bills. the approximate president's deal which he laid out on saturday in a white house address and also a clean government funding bill that will fund the government until february 8th. neither will get the 60 votes for passage. the clean bill which has passed the white house if it passed the
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senate will go to the president. it's a clean mechanism to allow these endangered republican who is feel like they need to vote. >> going to vote yes twice? >> or they want to vote yes and no and no and yes. i think what you said is right. they are nowhere closer to getting a deal done. there are no serious talks happening anywhere. we are going into the second month of a shut down and no one is getting paychecks. it's unlike anything i had ever seen. >> riddle me this. why is mcconnell going through show votes? why now? is it to prove to the president he can't be done and get him to move? mcconnell always has another move in mind when he does this. what is that next move in his mind? i think he wants to show the
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president that it's important to him. house republicans were forced to do the same thing. they passed $5 billion for the president's border wall even though that was going nowhere. each of these comes with a corresponding message which is different to deliver. both that they are going nowhere and that the plan that the president laid out is going to get the republican votes it neat needs. it's scary if you are looking for a solution. you are right. he usually does have another move in mind when he does something like this. at this point it's not immediately obvious to anybody on capitol hill. >> michael steel, former john boehner guy. what do you see that we don't see? >> i do think this represents haling miniscule and real and measurable progress? the sense that after these votes
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you will say that the president's plan can't pass the senate and the democrats's plan can't pass the senate and a combination of factors whether it's the speaker and the president has to get together and find a compromise between the two positions. democrats have to understand there was control of one half to one 30 of the federal government, they are not going to get exactly what they want. with democrats in control of one house, the president is not going to get what he wants. it took a month of shut down. which should have been day one or day two. >> mitch mcconnell is allowing president trump to dictate his job. he knows he wouldn't move forward because he has been digging his heels in that he want as i border wall. he is sensing if i budge a little bit, the president will
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maybe change and come to the table instead of demanding this money for nothing and hope that the way it moves through, we will try something different and give him more room. >> the president pulled the rug out from under his feet in the lead up to the shut down. he had no incentive before the president is willing to move and compromise. over the picture and the president putting out a compromised proposal gives him room to maneuver. to start trying things that may lead eventually to ending the shut down. >> i have a friend who thinks it doesn't have that much of an impact on president trump. he lost the soft support when the numbers move to the 30s to the 40s. public opinion is stalled here
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too because of polarization. >> that's why i think it is mitch mcconnell feeling some of that heat from the endangered republicans going up in 2020. they are feeling it and it's not just the 800,000 people who are not getting paychecks, but the families and the daywear cares that are shut down. the uber and the taxi drivers. it has huge ripple effects and those people are saying do your job and put bills on the floor. >> who are going to be the people who forge the compromise? are there senate democrats because leadership can't be seen. the leaders have to stick to their guns. is there lamar alexander on one hand and joe manchin or to a lesser extent, maybe dick durbin. are there secret talks we don't
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know about or quiet talks we don't know about? >> no. i think mike steel just alluded to this. this is going to have to be cut by mitch mcconnell who cut every single one of these going back eight or nine years. and the reason he's on the sidelined is he passed a bill that would have kept the government open. the president said no, thanks. i don't have any hope or patience or interest in the side deals. >> you don't buy it. >> don't buy them. it needs to be done by the leadership. they can't move without each other at this moment. the president wants to accept the reality that he doesn't control the house anymore and he is not used to it as he said he will give a state of the union address in a couple of days. >> there are some republicans and democrats who think mitch mcconnell is still watching matt
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bevin with a nervous eye. we don't know if he's going to run for reelection. is that having impact on mcconnell or not? you cover him as well as anybody. >> i don't believe that is a consideration of his at all. we tend to over estimate his challengers and he put his challengers quite easily and we would be silly to think he was looking atd a challenger. that's where the president put him. when he wants him off the sidelines, he will put him off. he will be able to get out of this mess once he engages. >> if it's not him, i don't know who else it is. jake sherman, thank you, sir. stick around. up next, the shock of one bad wall.
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presidential field. it does feel as if on one hand it's getting crowded early. how much harder is it for candidate who is haven't gotten in to suddenly find oxygen? it feels like you can see the oxygen is a little less each time. elizabeth warren got two or three days. kirsten gillibrand got about a day and a half. kamala harris is finding out she got a day. all of them, and i'm trying to figure out, all where does amy klobuchar fit. if you're one of these other cand candidates, it becomes tricky, no? >> the lanes get tinier for each person as time goes on. people have to start figuring out, can i make my announcement sooner rather than later. time is not on folks' side right now. >> that why so many of them are using social media. you don't have to have the best name recognition to get on facebook live or twitter, and so many of them have been using it.
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i think that's sort of getting at this idea that it's getting crowded and less oxygen is available for them. >> you have been through this with a big field, and the fight for staff is a very real challenge now that some candidates are freaking out. wait a minute, like it's musical chairs. not just about your candidacy. wait a minute, the top five operatives i had on my list for iowa are all gone. >> there are two things. in terms of the media environment, this is the age of trump. every day, there are four or five great story about the president, the government is still shut down, the russia investigation continues apace, rudy giuliani, et cetera, but the staff thing is very real. most of the people who, not all, but most of the senior people who worked for the last two winning democratic presidential campaigns aren't going to come back and sleep on a cot in iowa again. they're making the big money, working for tech companies. yeah, they'll drop in for a day or two and tell the staff how they're screwing every up, but they're not going full time out on the road which makes it an
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even smaller pool. >> you must love you get to be at the cap right now where you're sort of out of it. >> it's wonderful. >> let me ask you this. of the bs, it is amazing, the list of candidates with bs, whether first or last name, which one of -- the shoe to drop that you think is the most significant. beto, biden, bernie? of those three at least. >> i don't know if i can answer that question. they're all significant shoes in different ways. how do you like that? >> what's the one you think will have the most impact on the general field? >> i think beto, just given everything surrounding him and around the senate race and sort of just the aura, if you will, around him. i think it would definitely shake up things. >> i would say biden, because as we shift from the primary to the general, of course, the primary voters are like these really intense, passionate, vocal, progressive young folks pushing the partee to the left. as soon as you get to the general, you have to have a biden character who can appeal to the middle.
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>> a few things happened this weekend that's interesting on biden. first were these comments from joe biden, appearing at, with al sharpton's organization when he talked about criminal justice issues from the '80s and '90s. >> i have been in this fight for long time. it goes not just to voting rights. it goes to the criminal justice system. i haven't always been right. i know we haven't always gotten things right. but i have always tried. rev, it was your help back in 2010 that barack and i finally reduced the disparity in sentencing, which we had been fighting to eliminate, and crack cocaine versus powder cocaine. >> i'll admit, i sometimes make a living reading tea leaves. there was that, that felt like a bit of an apology. and then hunter biden gave a statement to vanity fair talking about hunter biden had his own personal life issues, professional life issues. he sort of alludes to it, and he
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doesn't say this, but let me put up part of what he says. i'm going to read part. you ask me whether my father might not run for president because of reports about me in the news. what you fail to realize in asking such a question is my father has always been proud of me, whether i was volunteering for the jesuits or working as a lawyer. he's proud of me today and loves me. it doesn't say anything other than it's sending a signal, we're ready for the campaign. >> i think that's right and they're smart enough to know that no questions about the crime bill and about his past statements and past record are going to come up so you might as well get ahead of it. >> thirs is the first day i assumed maybe he will run. this looks like they're preparing for it. >> the second thing today was "the new york times" story about south carolina as the gateway to super tuesday and talking about the great respect and affection and loyalty that a lot of elected officials in south carolina have for joe biden, and there's this energy, this other
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desire for change, but joe biden retains that sort of establishment support. >> i will say this. i remember john edwards thinking south carolina was going to be good to him, then a guy named barack obama showed up. great panel. much appreciated. >> up next, we're speaking frankly about a new open job. enb (clapping) every day, visionaries are creating the future. ( ♪ ) so, every day, we put our latest technology and vast expertise to work.
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i think i found someone who also might like the gig, mitt romney. he just started a new job as senator, but that was when he was running for senator, he said my favorite meat is hotdog, by the way, that is my favorite meat. it seems like the most important job qualification to me is you have to like the product you're selling. and mitt romney loves the product. that's all we have for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more. "the beat" starts now. >> we have a lot of ground to cover tonight. a top diplomat overseeing russia resigning after gop senators strike a deal to soften sanctions on a deal linked to putin and paul manafort. also, as mitch mcconnell stands by trump's shutdown, we go on the ground to see pressure building in red states. an executive who ran trump casinos says you have to understand trump's bankruptcy mindset to get where we're headed in the shutdown fight. the top story tonight is a white house on edge. a new book dishing on the chaos
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