will bring, butted i tell you it looks busy. manafort back in jail. and we'll talk politics with washington governor, jay insl erbs e. talk about whether he may run for president. but don't go anywhere. "hardball" is up next. let them eat cake. let's play "hardball." ♪ good evening. i'm chris matthews liecve in washington with the government shutdown cutting into the lives of 800,000 federal workers forcing them to miss their second paycheck. at least oned a stragz seems to be living -- wilbur ross offered meager compassion for the inflicted workers and only

andinting recognition caused by the ongoing shutdown. he was asked about reports of air traffic controllers not showing up to work. >> do you worry about safety? >> and i do worry about safety. it's kind of disappointing the air traffic controllers calling in sick in pretty large numbers. depending on the week -- >> many of them can't afford to support their families though. >> remember this they are eventalty going to be paid. >> there are reports there are federal workers going to homeless shelters to get food. >> and i know they are and i don't understand why. there's no real reason why they shouldn't be able to get a loan. sglrsz get a loan? he said he wanted to make sure federal workers were aware they had options. >> he doesn't understand why they have to that.

is this the let them eat cake kind of attitude or call your father for money or this is character building for you? it's all going to end up very well as long as you don't get your paychecks. i can don't quite understand why as hundreds of thousands of men and women are about to miss a second paycheck tomorrow. >> the president seemed to miss the pointed of her remarks, saying nancy just said she doesn't understand why. very simply without a wall it all simply doesn't work. it's the latest example of the president and others in his orbit, including his chief economist and daughter in law not getting the effect on real people's lives. >> i can relate and i'm sure that people on the receiving end will make adjustments. they always do. >> a huge share of government workers were going to take vacation days and then we have a

shutdown and so they can't go to work and so then they have the vacation but they don't have to use their vacation days and then they come back and they get their back pay and in some sense they're better off. >> in terms of the workers am canning to work and not getting pads. >> it's not fair to you and we all get that but this is so much bigger than any one person. it is a little bit of pain but it is going to be for the future of our country. >> meanwhile the country's aviation industry and tom homeland security officials are issuing dire warnings. if i ever former homeland security secretaries, including former dhs secretary turned chief of staff, john kelly, urged the president and cong troosz fund the agency. writing dhs employees who protect the traveling public, investigate and counterterrorism and protect critical

infrastructure should not have to rely on the charitable of others. this is unconscionable. and several unions representing pilot attendants and air traffic controllers, we can't calculate the level of risk currently at pl play, nor predict when the entire system will break. you run a city a big one and you know what can go wrong. what's your thinking of the lack of understanding of the people in the white house and their friends like the secretary of commerce? >> if we needed any conformation they live in a parallel world, we heard it today. this is an electricity crisis, a food on oyour table crisis and it's so fund mamentally out of touch with real america. in los angeles we're going to start helping our tsa agents,

and air traffic controllers, giving them zero interest loans so they don't have to go to food bank they don't lose their jobs because they have to take another one that pays them. >> you know he made case he was more in touch with them than the culturally elite democrats in washington. is he losing that cred? >> this is somebody who's been fundamentally out of touch with working people, stiffed his own workers, who doesn't care if his policies close down a plant in youngs town. it's the opposite of what he promised partnership -- so if you want to keep getting coned, go ahead. >> do you think nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house, has taught democrats something about how to take him on? >> absolutely. you have to stick to your

principals, act like a parent with somebody who's having a tantrum. i'm a parent a foster parent. you treat a kid who's having a tantrum in a certain way. you stay calm, keep moving forward and make sure we're focussed on the real things. because he wants to drag you down. >> he says the wall. it has to be the wall. got to be a physical barrier along the rio grand, along our southern border. nancy pelosi was like unconditional surrender on her terms. >> i think she's amazing but i just settled a six-day strike with teachers and a school district. you have to want to settle and have parties that want to. when the president gets up and leaves because he doesn't like what he hears, that's not leadership. >> what do you think of people with smaller classes, they want materials to teach kids with?

>> the strerngts strength of people marching in rain was inspiring and great and then i said to both partis come to city hall and we aren't leaving until we get this ton. we can divide each other or find our common ground. >> are you going to run? >> stay tuned to "hardball." today president trump said he would not cave in on a demand for a border wall and one day after he did give in on the state of the union, hey lost that baby. trump wrote as the shutdown was going on, nancy pelosi asked me to give a state of the union -- oh, really -- she shen changed her mind because of a shutdown. that's her puraugative. i'm not looking for an alternative venue because there is no venue that can compete with the history and tradition of the house chamber. i look forward to griving a

straight straight of the union address in the near future. >> the president accepted the fact that a state of the union should be at a time -- a state of the union should be at time when we can talk about the state of the union when government is not shut down. i'm glad we could can get that off the table because i know it's a source of many questions. it's so unimportant in the lives of the american people, including those the victims of the shutdown, host nlss to the president's applause line in a campaign speech. thank goodness we can get on to the subject at hand. open up government so we can negotiate how best to protect our borders. >> i'm joined by former chief of staff to speeber pelosi and co host of "words matter" podcast.

i'm going to ask all three to answer the same question. the ferocious heavyweight boxer, sonny listen, everybody's afraid of him. a young guy, cassius clay who knocked him out a couple of times. this guy could never win a again. he couldn't lose until he couldn't win. is this the end of donald trump ass a ferocious contender? >> well, i wouldn't put money on a that yet. doesn't mean he's going to win this particular one but obviously he hasn't yet given in. what they're talking about was some sort of a temporary reopening of the government. he says he would do it if there was a pro rated share of money for the budget wall in there, even if not the full amount he wanted. that's at least some movement. we have a couple senate votes

moving that neither side has the votes they need proceed the way they would like to. that means they have to meet in the middle someplace. >> it seems the speaker is as iconic about her wall, she said no. where are we at on this? he wants a barrier. >> he wants $5.7 billion for a wall and i don't believe this talk that he wants to down payment to open up the government. because that's not going to be good enough for him. because he could change tomorrow. democrats are going to come can up with a proposal that's pretty com comprehensive. he's going to dismiss it. the problem is republicans are starting to feel the heat and they told that to pence today. >> if you were nancy regan -- no, nancy pelosi. would you fight this to the finish say no money for the

wall? >> not a nickel for president trump's wall. and i was surprised -- i shouldn't say i was surprised. when the president thought he was actually going to deliver the state of the union address. she wasn't going to allow that to happen, no way, no how. he wasants going to have a monwrmo monument to talk about his wall. >> i'm not amazed. the question elysse is does this guy not get, not only does he not get the culture of the democratic party, he doesn't get her character and toughness because he stuck his neck out like mussolini and she said keep pushing and then i'll say no and that's what she did. >> on the don has not been challenged in this way by a co equal branch of government. god bless nancy pelosi for stepping out and saying she has

representing congress she has this power and this authority and you look at the contrast between paul ryan and mitch mcconnell and it's stunning. but if anything, donald trump, by prolonging the shutdown, as american cans are starting to feel the impact in transportation, their daily lives, as so many honest workers who have done an honest day's work are not getting paid and the cumulative effect of that is -- i point to a new poll in wisconsin where 49% of those polled say absolutely not. they will not vote for donald trump. and so i do wonder if we're starting to see a shift -- yes. in wisconsin. >> late today president trump said it would have been disrespectful to give the state of the union speech anywhere other than the capitol. and asked about the comment cans bouts federal workers. >> perhaps he should have said

it differently. local people know who they are. when they go for groceries and everything else. and what wilbur was probably trying to say is they will work along. i know banks are working along. if you have mortgages, the folks collecting the interest and all of those things, they work along and that's what happens in times like this. >> and you write the big story. what is the story about this? it doesn't seem to me -- i look at all the phoney votes in the senate, what the president says, the speaker says. i don't think they're close to a deal. what do you see? >> look, they are dug in, as you just heard. the problem is once you've past a financial disagreement to make a moral argument, very hard to meet an agreement. if it's immoral, it's at 1 billion or $1. so how do you meet in the

middle? and that's to give her policy she wants. the president reached out a little bit last weekend but too little, too late according to the democrats and so far you haven't seen a counter proposal. weal see one from them on border security. you can see how they would get there if they chose to. both sides are pretty dug in and they have made it a moral argument. and on both sides the first test in their relationship of divided government. either side looks at it as if they back down and lose faith, that will be a bad precedent for the next two years. >> you start with a cause and end up with a fight. tell me about nancy pelosi and what she's like eye ball to eye ball. >> she was like what you saw when she was at the white house when the president attempted --

>> muother nancy? >> he can't figure her out. >> he can't call her madam speaker. >> it doesn't matter because she knows what's on the other side. she has the facts on her side. she has a majority on her side. which he has not come to accept and once he accepted the democrats are in charge with the house and he wants to sit down and act, then he can do it. >> do you think elysse haz struck a bell for not just the co equal branch of government but co equal gender what's the answerer? >> you look at donald trump and he has a real problem dealing with strong, powerful women and nancy pelosi is the most strong, formidable, powerful woman he's met. in terms of not being forficient

in the art of the deal, he has really met in her someone who is competent, capable, understands how to govern and understands the political strategy needed to unite all herrer troop business hind her and donald trump has not proven that he has -- that he can go up against her and win. >> i think he's come up against a wall, actually. thank you so much. anyway, thank you, peter baker, and coming up, two failed votes in the u.s. senate and the government's still shut down. there's a sign of -- well, some people said optimism and he calls the whole exercise quote kind of stupid. he got that right finally. plus michael cohen has been subpoenaed by the u.s. senate. which means we're days away from hearing the former fixer tell all. by the way, he's under subpoena. no more walking away out of

fear. he's got to show up or he goes to jail. stay with us. stay with us cancer is relentless, but i'm relentless too. mbc doesn't take a day off, and neither will i. and i treat my mbc with everyday verzenio- the only one of its kind that can be taken every day. in fact, verzenio is a cdk4 & 6 inhibitor for postmenopausal women with hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer, approved, with hormonal therapy, as an everyday treatment for a relentless disease. verzenio + an ai is proven to help women have significantly more time without disease progression, and more than half of women saw their tumors shrink vs an ai. diarrhea is common, may be severe, and may cause dehydration or infection. before taking verzenio, tell your doctor if you have fever, chills, or other signs of infection. verzenio may cause low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infection that can lead to death. serious liver problems can occur. symptoms may include tiredness, loss of appetite, stomach pain,

and bleeding or bruising more easily than normal. blood clots that can lead to death have also occurred. talk to your doctor right away if you notice pain or swelling in your arms or legs, shortness of breath, chest pain or rapid breathing or heart rate. tell your doctor if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or plan to become pregnant. common side effects include nausea, infections, low red and white blood cells and platelets, decreased appetite, headache, abdominal pain, tiredness, vomiting, and hair thinning or loss. i'm relentless. and my doctor and i choose to treat my metastatic breast cancer with verzenio. be relentless. ask your doctor about everyday verzenio. what sore muscles? what with advpounding head? .. advil is... relief that's fast. strength that lasts.

you'll ask... what pain? with advil. and the army taught me a lot about commitment. which i apply to my life and my work. at comcast we're commited to delivering the best experience possible, by being on time everytime. and if we are ever late, we'll give you a automatic twenty dollar credit. my name is antonio and i'm a technician at comcast.

we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. welcome back to "hardball. "senate majority leader has finally emerged from his shell. the senate voted for the first time in over a months on reopening the government. but did it do anything to accelerate an end of the shutdown? president trump showed the first sign of budging, however. >> so knew they both were not going to go anywhere, we thought and now mitch is negotiating with chuck schumer and we'll see what happens. if they come to a reasonable agreement, i would support it. >> even if there's no wall funding? >> i have other alternatives if i have to and i'll use those if

i have to. >> wow, he's warning about emergency action by the president. the president expressed concern over the cost of the shutdown. the sources toelds the "washington post" that trump told a room of people this is a kind of stupid and every day thing. this goes on, the cost keeps getting higher. and a republican backed bill would have funded the government while providing 5.7 billion for the wall temporary relief for d.a.c.a. recipients and 10 votes shy of the 60 you need in the senate. the one for the democrats would have temporarily funded with no wall money at all. 52-44. well, since the shutdown started, senator mcconnell has been unwilling to move on anything without trump's approval. let's watch that. >> the proposal outlined by president trump that will consider in the senate is the only proposal, the only one

currently before us that can be signed by the president and immediately reopen the government. i made the clear to the speaker we're not interested in having show votes here in the senate. we're interested in bringing up something the house has passed, 60 senators will support the president will sign. in other words, make a law. >> well, that wasn't for long. because he pushed a bill today that had no chance of win withing. meanwhile house leaders are crafting their own fwiel reopen the department of homeland security but woerwon't include efor a barrier. i'm joined by democrat from minnesota and former democratic governor of colorado. another executive. you've been executive all those years in colorado. what do you make of this political gamesmanship going on. what are they doing except

dicking around? >> can't use language like that? i look at it as how does seeing people get to this point? and the president is not a fool. i think he's dreadfully miscalculated and followed his impulses and now he's backed himself into a krner i'm not sure he sees his way out. >> he was ready to caught deal before they said you can't go anywhere without that wall. >> he rushed in with a lot of bravado, sort of like a child. without really thinking what am i going to do next? and now he's got a place where he's stuck with theses demands and he realizes no one -- i mean putting a wall up has been a symbol. the rest of the world will see us locking people out and someone told me the other day as i was coming out here that if

you think of exports from america, one of the great ways cash comes in is from tourists around the world. that's down 8% the last couple of years. you put a wall up and see what you do to that source of revenue for the country. >> maybe i'm playing great skeptic but i don't think he can move without a wall. if it's 50 or 20 feet, he's got to put up something and i believe speaker pelosi is leading the party says that's immoral. this is an iconic battle. >> it is but just a minute ago the clip you showed how difficult it is to negotiate. you need to have a clear idea of what he wants and what he's going to settle for and he's real all over the place and it's just ridiculous. and meanwhile i have people in minnesota and all over the country whose lives are being damaged by this. and wilbur ross's idea is people

should just go get a loan. it's so out of touch -- >> he's a billionaire. >> maybe he could loan. >> i've been covering politics most of my life and i've never seen a power play like nancy pelosi and he just walked right into the punch. it looked like he didn't know she was going to do it. as a woman, i don't like do this but we live in identity politics. it looks to me like next year there's a very good chance the democratic nominee for president will be a woman. at least 50/50. is pelosi showing the way how you fight with trump? >> i think she is. you have to be tough, clear, willing to take some hits at the same time you don't lose track of a what it is you're trying to accomplish. >> he's afraid to give her a nickname.

i can give you a bad name. >> who knew he could do this, if he wanted to make a wum an real hero, he did it. >> who thought he was the guy? >> i think he'ss intimidated by her. >> how so? >> he doesn't quite know what to do with her. and she's like the -- she's like the fifth grade teacher who said go back to your desk and don't come back again until you have your homework done. >> and i say this positively. it's not clever leccing tronnics and social media. she knows that stuff but it's about who are you with? and you tooth and nail and you don't say anybody. are you running for president? >> we've gone around the country and to different states, my

wife -- i'd say she's getting excited about it. so year moving in the right direction. >> a great man used to work in this room and his great question i put to you. ready? what would stop you from running? >> if my wife or son put their foot down or if i went out there and people didn't care about pragmatic solutions. i spent the last 16 years trying to bring people together in nonconfrontational situations and environmentals and gas people to find compromises and move forward. if that's thrown out the window, then it's not waste my time. >> you showed me around your old restaurant and all that stuff. you're close to the people. >> was walking to through tsa and one of them was a kraft beer guy and he was saying the government shutdown, nobody thinks of theetds little guys. but they make new labels for special beers and they have to get them approved by the bureau

of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. it's shut down. there's so many places it comes in. >> debate with other candidates and the issue of kraft beer comes up, you're going to own it because you produced it. it's been an honor to have you on. hope queue get in this race. welcome and former governor of colorado still ahead another development in the michael cohen case. after postponing his public testimony, cohen has now been subpoenaed. that means you got to show up by the senate intel committee. that happened today and this time he has no choice. they made an offer he cannot refuse. we're back after this. we're back aftethr is how do you gauge the greatness of an suv? is it to carry cargo... or to carry on a legacy? its show of strength... or its sign of intelligence? in crossing harsh terrain... or breaking new ground?

this is the mercedes-benz suv family. greatness comes in many forms. lease the glc 300 for $479 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.

yeah, i've had some prettyeer. prestigious jobs over the years. news producer, executive transport manager, and a beverage distribution supervisor. now i'm a director at a security software firm. wow, you've been at it a long time. thing is, i like working. what if my retirement plan is i don't want to retire? then let's not create a retirement plan. let's create a plan for what's next. i like that. get a plan that's right for you. td ameritrade. ♪ i felt i couldn't be at my best for my family., in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured and left those doubts behind. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured.

even hanging with friends i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all common types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b, a liver or kidney transplant, other liver problems, hiv-1, or other medical conditions, and all medicines you take including herbal supplements. don't take mavyret with atazanavir or rifampin, or if you've had certain liver problems. common side effects include headache and tiredness. with hep c behind me, i feel free... ...fearless... ...and there's no looking back, because i am cured. talk to your doctor about mavyret.

welcome back to hardball. president trump's long time lawyer and fixer, michael cohen has made an offer he can't refuse. the senate committee on intelligence subpoenaed him to appear next month. in fact, unlike cohen's decision to delay his voluntary testimony, if he doesn't show up he can be held in contempt and go to prison. he held back talking to the oversight committee after what he says were ongoing threats against the family like this one.

>> he says i have an idea. i'll give you information on the president. he should give information, maybe on his father in law because that's the one that people want to look at because where does that money -- that's the money in the family. >> cohen's advisorer says he expects his client to honor the subpoena from the senate committee but still says this president's perceived threats still worry cohen. >> when the president of the united states -- amazing i'm about to say this -- called somebody who tells the truth a rat and then praises people who are refusing to tell the truth, then your sending a signal of lawlessness by the highest office in our country. so mr. cohen is concerned that when you're labeled a rat and you're in a federal prison, there could be danger from other people.

>> i'm joined by my colleague, host of "the beat." you know that was clearly to bulljure known as an informant and he was killed within hours by the prissners. >> beaten to death. dramatically. yeah. >> so what do you think about the threat here? how clear is this? i referred to it as witness tampering. if you're telling a guy you're afraid he's going to testify against you in kangress, it is like johnny five angels and the godfather and bringing the brother in from sicily because you're going to kill him if the guy testifies. >> the pan tachg low analogy is one he made on msnbc as you were coming on air and i pressed him on it. i said wait, if you're siting the scene in the godfather ii", are you saying you're worried about violence and davis says

yes, he brought up charlottesville and said even if he isn't ordering it, he's trying to wlu meant it among people who wilt lash out. they're in midtown manhattan and says they fear for the safety. it's dead serious. and then the congressional side is the chairs of the committees in the house, they view it as potentially criminal tampering. >> what more do you think cohen has that he hasn't given up already to new york prosecutors? what's he worried up he hasn't given up already? >> i think you're asking the bigging question. if mueller laz the key stuff and he did say cohen was credible and help fool core issues. that sounds like the core stuff, election tampering and obstruction, then what else is there? >> there's the way donald trump acts and the way his company runs, in matters that may not be

chargeable. oblehe thinks cohen will say something that will hurt him. but at a minimum i don't think any rational person can debate the fact that donald trump looks shook, scared, is doing incredibly incriminating, embarrassing things on air as you just showed to try to delay or prevent this time. so if you're asking me do i know what it is tonight? i don't. >> you had quite a collection. let's listen to your panel's reaction. >> do you thinkee should speak before congress before he goes to jail? >> i don't have an opinion. >> i think he should. >> i could careless i want him

to go to jail as soon as possible. >> the more openness the better. >> i felt like i was watching the tobacco industry. >> were you waiting for the hands to go up? >> yes. as we said the "godfath" reference again. he'll be held in contempt. can he use the fifth before the senate intel committee? >> so two things. he can take the fifth less than the average person because he's already done the self-incrimination on certain matters and confess. so he has less of that argument unless he's asked about things outside the plea deal and confession he made. and believe me lawyers would debate this but the short answer is he has less than the average person. the second to what your you've been pointing out. this is an usual situation.

you have a long-time loyal defender of the presidents and attorney to the presidents who is scheduled to go to prison, who said he would now testify and come clean, who back said down because of the threats you reported and now a clash with the congress said guess, what, buddy, it may not be your call. thats rr why it's so big the democrats have subpoena power. rarely do you have a subpoena fight with an incarceration deadline. year all going to watch the next couple weeks. do they try to delay it out past his reporting date to prison? >> this guy is not like john dane. john dean was not richard nixon's confident. this is the real fixer. this is like velocci, giving you the structure of the coppos and the mob. he's the guy trump called in the middle of night with girl

trouble, women trouble. whenever he had a dirty problem, he would call michael cohen and say what do we do about this? he knows it all, right? isn't that what scares trump? because trump might not remember how much he's conifieded in this guy. >> we have to remember the way donald trump works. there are people who think he's dumb or out to lunch. not when it comes to his personal interests, his problems and his money. he may be hands off all sorts of jobs of the presidency. 37% of appointees are vacant because he won't do the work. but when the dime accusations, gag orders, silence agreements, hush money, national enquirer, threatening reporters, i could go on. we don't have enough time on cable news for it and we have a lot of time. so i think you're putting your finger on it. what is it that donald trump knows that cohen can say

truthfully or credibly? because i don't think him saying words with no corroboration or story line is moving anyone. all the problems that michael cohen was called to fix because one thing you got to remember about donald trump, this is a guy who would have hush money payments, make people sign the deal and he wouldn't sign it himself. that's how secretive he was. >> georgy knows, what georgy's done. it's not a mystery to donald trump what he's done in life. up next leaking, gossiping and in fighting. the new tell-all book tells the ways in which kelly ann conway became one of trump's most influential advisors and leakers. influential advisors and leakers. too, saying [indistinct conversation] [friend] i've never seen that before.

♪ ♪ i have... ♪ just as important as what you get out of it? i have... our broccoli cheddar is made with aged melted cheddar, simmered broccoli, and no artificial flavors. enjoy 100% clean soup today. panera. food as it should be. this is a commercial about insurance. but let's be honest. nobody likes dealing with insurance. see, esurance knows it's confusing. i literally have no idea what i'm getting. i don't know either. i'm just the spokesperson. but that's why they're making it simple - so that even actors, like us, can understand it. i'm not an actor. i'd love to tell you more but i only have thirty seconds. so here's a dramatic shot of their tagline so you'll remember it.

when insurance is simple, it's surprisingly painless. so are all these. they work together doing important stuff... like keeping your vital organs running and what not. the hitch? like you, your cells get hungry. feed them... with centrum® micronutrients. designed to nourish and revitalize you... at the cellular level. restoring your awesome... on the daily. feed your cells with centrum® micronutrients today.

since become canning

president, donald trump has routinely attacking the leaks that have fuelled the stories. let's watch. >> don't believe the crap you see from these people. the fake news. they have no sources. they just make them up when there are none. and the leaks are absolutely real. the news is fake. >> we're going to find the leakers. we're going to find the leakers. they're going to pay a big price for leaking. >> now in a new book "team of vipers" cliff sims depicts trump's innercircle of a snake pit all leaking against each other. and in a lengthy excerpt, sims portray as kelly ann conway as the most prolific leaker of all. he has a episode where he was tasked with draft agonal

statement and sims says kwoetd cell canny ann was sitting at her desk texting away and since her account was tied to both her and laptop i could see every conversation she was having. she was having simultaneous conversations with no fewer than a half dozen reporters, most from outlets the white house frequently trashed for publishing fake news. as i sat there trying to type, she bashed jared kushner, reince priebus, steve bannon and sean spicer, all by name and conway recounted private conversations she had with the president, during which she had convinced him to see things her way which is a challenge when you're dealing with someone so unpredictable. she was talking about him like he auz child. as damaging as that sounds, he reveals much more about the leaks out of the white house. he eludes to another source

close to the president, very close to the president in fact and we'll reveal who that is after the break. who that is after the break. when did soup become this? at panera, we treat soup differently. with vine ripened tomatoes, signature cheddar, simmered to perfection. with big flavors, not artificial ones. enjoy 100% clean soup today. panera. food as it should be.

enjoy 100% clean soup today. i was thinking...d clot could there be another around the corner? or could it turn out differently? i wanted to help protect myself. my doctor recommended eliquis. eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another dvt or pe blood clot... almost 98 percent of patients on eliquis didn't experience another. ...and eliquis has significantly less major bleeding than the standard treatment. eliquis is fda approved

and has both. don't stop eliquis unless your doctor tells you to. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. if you had a spinal injection while on eliquis call your doctor right away if you have tingling, numbness, or muscle weakness. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily... and it may take longer than usual for bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. what's around the corner could be surprising. ask your doctor about eliquis. there's brushing...and there's oral-b power brushing. oral-b just cleans better. even my hygienist said going electric could lead to way cleaner teeth. and unlike sonicare, oral-b is the first electric toothbrush brand accepted by the ada. oral-b. brush like a pro. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats moderate to severe

plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla,75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. welcome back to "hardball." while president trump has never hidden his disdain for anonymous sources, "team of vipers" suggests he may be among those leakers. an excerpt from the book on

"vanity fair" recalls trump trying to persuade a prominent reporter to reveal their sources and the reporter laughed somewhat nervously saying they obviously could not reveal their sources mp and trump tried to cut a deal. well, i guess that's fine, he replied, but of course you know i could can give you so much better stories, so much better. and trump relented. the reporter hung up without a top scoop from source close to the president which was the president of course. joining me now by our friend, phil rucker and david led a former senior speech writer for president obama. phil, this book, which can you somehow got ahold of fast, apparently a seven-figure deal. demand for dirt inside this

white house. >> it's a memoir and it's filled with intrigue and all sorts of scenes of dysfunction and due plisty and frankly among the president. sims is quite flattering in his portrayal of the president and certainly not in his portrayal of some of the co workers. >> david, i've never heard of the white house so disloyal to the president. when i askredpoerters like phil is it hard getting stories out of the white house? they laugh at me. kelly ann is pitching stuff from different directions and the president himself a a source and they complain about fake news but it's all from them. >> i hope you'd preferrer to me as a source close to david litt. it's not just the availability, it's the pettiness of all of it. people wrote stories from the obama white house or the bush white house but it's the

personal feuds, rather than national issues and you think are people going to work every day to do? what's tlr point? >> and this is a president who likes to see these arguments play out in public. he reads newspapers and likes to see the debate playing out. he likes to see the friction among his advisors and i think that's why so many of his aids and ofilgszs talk to reporters like me and appear on television to make their cases because it's a very public process. >> what a den of vipers. as a private citizen trump had a habit of calling reporters to it liver flattering news about himself but do so while posing as an imaginary pubilousicist named jon barren. he told them in a phone call that most of his father's assets had been trarz transfoortd him. >> okay.

what's your first name, by the way? >> john. >> john. >> let me tell you what the deal is what the deal is so you understand. mr. trump, fist of all fist of l >> david, i don't think obama ever did this? >> no. i'm going to go out on a limb and say he did not come up with his own fake publicist. i assume he had a sock puppet while he was in character as john barren. >> he didn't even disguise his voice really. >> we sort of laugh about it but that is the deaf nigsz of fake news. he is literally lying about his identity to advance a story that

may or may not by true. he wrused to do this all the time with the tabloids in new york about his personal life, which women were coming on to him. >> ready? trade craft question. in your reporting on the white house there's all kinds of smart people, do you have a diagram where if you want something on kelly ann, go to these people? if you want something on jared kushner, go to to these people? >> what you do though is thiaological split among advisors. for trade you know which oneses have a free trade viewpoint and you know where to go for different pieces of information. but it's not as tribal as you're mapping out there. it's really not. >> thank you. coming up one shining truth to emerge from this shutdown of the government is the political strength of speaker pelosi. trump sees it, the whole country now sees it.

trump sees it, the whole country now sees it. hey, who are you? oh, hey jeff, i'm a car thief... what?! i'm here to steal your car because, well, that's my job. what? what?? what?! (laughing) what?? what?! what?! [crash] what?! haha, it happens. and if you've got cut-rate car insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. so get allstate... and be better protected from mayhem... like me. ♪ from capital one.nd i switched to the spark cash card

i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back. which i used to offer health insurance to my employees. what's in your wallet? not long ago, ronda started here.

and then, more jobs began to appear. these techs in a lab. this builder in a hardhat... ...the welders and electricians who do all of that. the diner staffed up 'cause they all needed lunch. teachers... doctors... jobs grew a bunch. what started with one job spread all around. because each job in energy creates many more in this town. energy lives here.

welcome back to "hardball." the one clear shining truth to emrnl is the political strength of speaker pelosi. having worked, by the way for the legendary tip o'neale, here's an example. trump has tried to pat ruinizing pelosi. he tries to belittle the

constitutional officer second in line to the presidency by referring to her as nancy. she hasn't let him get away with it. >> nancy's in a situation where it's not easy for there talk right now and i understand that and i fully understand that. year going to have a good discussion and see what happens but we have to have border security. >> mr. president, please don't character the strength that i bring as leader of the house democrats, who just won a big victory. >> and so first and foremost speak of the house is to demand respect from the presidency. what speeb orneal did with regan in the '80s and what speaker trump has done with president trump now. and second to make it crystal clear where you stand. she says it's an immorality. well, last night at 11:00 p.m. eastern we saw the first white flag, white flag flying from the trump white house. speaker pelosi said the president could not deliver a state of the union while the

government was closed. trump had to announce he was going along with that. leadership is an interesting aspect of human behave wrr. a leader is with someone lots of people following her. trump ses it, the whole country sees it. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. >> on "all in." >> there are reports of some federal workers going to homeless shelters to get food. >> well, i know they are and i don't quite understand why. >> trump shutdown drags on as trump world -- >> is this the let them eat cake kind of attitude or call your father for money? >> my exclusive interview with elizabeth warren on wilbur ross, the trump shutdown and her brand new proposal for a welt tax on the super rich. then the senate will force michael con to testify. >>