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why? >> greed. plain and simple. it came down to greed. all about money. it was a whirlwind love affair. >> i felt like this was the one that i'd been waiting for. maybe it was too good to be true. did he love me, or was this all a game? >> reporter: a beautiful businesswoman falls for a dashing doctor, but her daughters have doubts -- >> i had lots of suspicions. >> she thinks his fingernails are dirty. this does not look to her like the hands of an actual doctor. who was this guy? >> his nickname was "dirty john." >> this woman knew him all too well. >> i started snooping.
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and i found everything. >> this reporter made some unnerving discoveries, too. >> he scared a lot of people. he swindled a lot of people. >> the story of his "dirty deeds" riveted the nation in a hit podcast. >> announcer: this is dirty john. >> but dirty was about to turn dark. >> he's got duct tape, he's got all the tools ready to kidnap her. >> would this mom and her daughters learn the truth in time? >> she was in a panic. she said, "i saw john." "outside in a car." >> a story ending in savagery that would stun even police. >> there's no way he gets away with this unless he kills her.
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>> whole complex must have heard it, terrified, howling, desperate. >> is she ok? >> reporter: there was a man down there, they could see him. he had a knife. he was stabbing the screaming woman and nobody was helping her. >> it's really bad -- >> all right. i understand. we have officers on the way. >> too late. too late. >> oh, the ambulance is here.
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they're doing cpr on somebody. >> the bloody ending. but the story, the whole terrible tale, is much deeper than that one thing, dreadful though it was. >> reporter: a little too judgmental? maybe. >> me and my sister could go over the top sometimes. just very protective over my mom. >> reporter: but now debra wanted a romance, just for her, on her terms. >> i had always done everything for my children. so i felt like it was "me" time. >> reporter: and this guy on the
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he'd come straight from an operation and he was handsome and tall and very fit. and very into her. >> he swept me off my feet, said everything right. took me everywhere that i wanted to go. >> reporter: did you have that walking on air feeling that you get when you fall in love? >> little bit. i fell in love. >> she called me one day and told me that she met someone amazing and that she really liked this guy. she wanted me to meet him. >> reporter: but true to form perhaps, debra's daughters reacted just as they often did to a new man in her life, especially terra's sister. >> she didn't like him immediately and i thought, "oh, she'll eventually like him. he's a lotta fun. he'll win her over." -morning. -morning. -what do we got? -keep an eye on that branch. might get windy. have a good shift. fire pit. last use -- 0600. i'd stay close. morning. ♪ get ready to switch. protected by flo. should say, "protected by alan and jamie." -right? -should it? when you bundle home and auto... run, alan! ...you get more than just savings. you get 'round-the-clock protection. 3 days is really fast. than sensitivity,. the dentist is going to be able to provide that to their patients. sensodyne rapid relief in my opinion is a game changer. it's going to let the dentist offer their patient
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secret. they decided, said debra, they wouldn't tell anyone. >> i knew my family would be not very happy with me. >> reporter: what did it feel like? >> very mixed emotions. a little empty, knowing that they're not onboard with this. >> reporter: but that's all on that one side. on the other side, there's this rush of happiness and good feelings, right? >> yes. >> reporter: so debra's
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daughters, protective as usual, had no idea that their mother was a newlywed. the therapist debra had seen recommended that she keep her relationship separate from her family, but, of course, christmas was coming, and there were very important family traditions. like the one where terra would have her own special time with the nieces and nephews of her extended family. so they made a deal. john would stay in a different room, while terra had the kids to herself. this isn't just any moving day.
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well. unless they were taught to have evil in them. >> reporter: sure. and terra was something of a student of evil. she was a fan of the tv show "the walking dead." zombies. she had a feeling that evil was lurking in the life of john meehan. so did her sister. they knew he was hiding something, said reporter christopher goffard, and they were determined to find out what it was. >> they hired a private investigator to look into his past. >> reporter: debra, meanwhile, was in love.
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the newlyweds had settled into a simple life on newport's balboa island. debra, convinced she'd found the perfect man. even when, sometimes -- things didn't quite make sense. like the time she picked up the mail, and saw a strange return address on a letter to her husband. >> reporter: you opened a letter to him? >> yes, i did. i was so curious. and he was irate. "that's fraud.
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you know, i can't believe you did that. >> reporter: but what had caught her attention was that letter was from an inmate at the orange county jail. >> did you read the letter? >> i did. >> reporter: what was in it? >> it was talking about how lucky he was that he had found love, and that his life had turned around. and i'm thinking, "life had turned around?" hmm. so i questioned him, and he said that he writes and sends care packages to people in prison. >> reporter: sounded plausible enough to debra, but not to the sisters. especially not once their private investigator began reporting his findings on john meehan. >> they learned that he was not a doctor. he was not an anesthesiologist. >> reporter: john had worked as a nurse anesthetist, but not recently. and he certainly had not been in iraq with doctors without borders. instead just before he met debra -- >> they learned that one of his recent addresses was the orange county jail. >> reporter: john was not a sender of care packages, he had been an inmate.
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then in march 2015, four months after john moved in with debra the sisters snooped around the balboa house and -- jackpot. they found a stash of paperwork john had left there. legal documents, police reports. >> reports that he's stalked other women and that other women had restraining orders on him. >> reporter: john's papers outlined a long criminal history. multiple arrests and incarcerations, drug convictions. alarming stuff. >> and debra was hesitant to believe the stuff. she believed john. >> reporter: even after her daughters told her what they'd found, debra went straight to
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john, and he said they had the wrong guy. >> he said, "there's gonna be allegations that other john meehans did." and i thought, "well, okay, you've got a point." >> reporter: john said he was a victim of mistaken identity in some cases, and in others, he was framed. >> and he said, "i was set up. and i said, "but you lied to me ". he goes, because i knew you would never date me if you knew the truth, and i said, you're right. i wouldn't have. >> reporter: thing was, john was so sad. seemed so sincerely contrite. >> he started crying and crying and crying.
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and he said, "please forgive me. i love you so much. i can never live without you." >> reporter: and it was true that he made her feel like she was the only woman in the world. and when they were alone together she felt truly loved. >> and i'm thinking, "okay, 90% of me doesn't believe him, but there's that 10% that maybe he's right, and i'm going to throw away the person that i fell in love with without trying to work it through." >> reporter: and so she accepted his explanations, and she forgave him. >> there was always a reason? >> yes. >> reporter: in march 2015, soon after they found that stash of papers, terra and her sister discovered their mother was married to the guy. that was it. . why not feel this good every day? emerge and see. going to extremes for perfect skin? where does it end? new olay whips. while not equal to cosmetic procedures, our b3 complex hydrates to smooth skin. injections? rejected. beautiful skin? accepted. olay.
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>> reporter: it was the late 1980s. tonia was a young nurse anesthetist in dayton, ohio. john was in law school there. until he met her, that is, and said he had a kind of epiphany. >> he said, "you know, i'm not even sure i'll be happy being an attorney. i think i wanna be a nurse anesthetist" and i think my jaw fell to the ground, because i thought he was, you know, a second-year law student. >> reporter: in fact, he wasn't. he had been kicked out. though he didn't tell her that. >> all the days of my life. >> reporter: so, in her blissful ignorance, she married him in her family's church in 1990. >> mr. and mrs. john meehan. >> reporter: and she helped put him through nursing school. they two daughters before things stopped adding up. >> and i found out that he was having an affair.
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>> reporter: tonia wondered, what else did she not know about her soon to be ex-husband. like, why did he refuse to invite his family to their wedding? why not let her even meet them? she decided to call his mother. >> i said, "dolores, this is tonia. i'm married to your son, john." and the phone was quiet for a minute. and she said, "oh, tonia. i knew you'd call me some day." >> reporter: wow. >> and so then, of course, my heart was racing and my knees were shaking just to make the phone call. and then she just unloaded on me, you know, all the details of
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trouble in the past. >> reporter: according to his own mother, john had been cheating and stealing and lying for years. even lied to tonia about his age. lopped off five years. oh, and he'd been convicted of cocaine trafficking. >> she said, you know, "is he still using drugs?" and i said "what?" >> reporter: so in something like shock, tonia become a sleuth. who was this man? >> i started snooping. and i found everything. it was under my nose all the time. >> reporter: evidence of a criminal double life. and something else -- >> a cedar box full of fentanyl
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and versed and some other things that aren't controlled substances. >> reporter: she started watching that cedar box. >> and things did come and go. so now i thought -- >> reporter: it's a stash. >> it's a stash. yeah. >> reporter: was he using his position as a nurse to steal drugs? >> reporter: like getting a ticket to be in the candy store all day long. >> right. i mean, it's like putting an alcoholic as a bartender. >> reporter: she told the authorities. she had to. it was the law. >> he had to be stopped. he was going to hurt patients. >> reporter: and on a dime. >> he turned on me. he flipped like a switch. >> reporter: now the man she once thought she knew turned scary. threatening. she began recording their phone conversations. >> listen to me, tonia. >> i'm listening. >> i got a big smile on my face and you know why? because it's gonna get done. >> what's gonna get done? you're not making any sense. >> well, it don't have to. you will understand when the time comes. >> hmm. >> and that's all i got to say. when it happens tonia and you see it in your eye you remember it was me, okay? >> remember what, john? >> keep that in mind. it was me. tonia, you enjoy your time left on this earth. okay?
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because that's what it's gonna come down to. >> reporter: he was arrested for making threats against tonia in june 2001, was convicted of menacing and put on probation. >> reporter: he wasn't the man she thought he was? >> that's exactly right. there was another version of john. >> reporter: dennis luken was a police detective back then. he investigated the source of those drugs tonia found in the cedar box.
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he started at john's house. and found a gun. illegal, because john was on probation. so he was arrested again and sent to jail. >> when he went to montgomery county jail, i called a supervisor. i said, "you've got an individual there, john meehan, and he's gonna try to con you out of drugs." he says, "he already has. he claimed he fell out of the top bunk and he got pain medication." >> reporter: you're dealing with an incorrigible person here. >> yes, sir. you're dealing with an addict. a very smart, articulate addict. >> reporter: eventually, thanks to luken, john did jail time for stealing drugs in ohio and michigan. and tonia felt guilty. wondering if she'd missed warning signs. wondered what else john might have hidden from her. never thought about the clue. way back at the beginning. on her wedding video. >> and the groomsmen who'd had some drinks and have their arms around each other, and they're
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talking about how they met him. >> we're here to celebrate john. >> one of the groomsmen said -- >> john meehan's nickname is filthy john meehan. >> reporter: filthy john, over the years, became dirty john and the nickname stuck. >> reporter: you found out later on, there was a story to that. >> yes. he was basically conning little old women out of money for jobs that he didn't do. and also that he had a way with the ladies. >> reporter: luken discovered darker secrets as well. john supplied the opioids that killed his own addicted brother. he was alone with his sick father when the old man died rather suddenly. john wasn't charged in those cases, but there were others, said luken, and as the years went on, he developed a certain criminal specialty. >> he would go on dating websites and he would find women that usually had good financial backing. he always told people he was a doctor. >> he seemed like an ideal catch, i suppose. >> yes. >> fer for a lot of these women. >> he was a true conman. he'd take their money and when they would find out about him, john would threaten 'em, he would terrorize 'em. >> reporter: how bad was he? >> john was the most dangerous, treacherous, manipulative, deceitful, criminal that i'd investigated in 40 years of law enforcement.
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one thing they found especially alarming was yet another police report about dirty john. this one from just two years earlier and much closer to home. the police in laguna beach had arrested john meehan for stalking a woman, and they discovered he'd rented an office space in which they found zip ties, cyanide and two loaded guns. >> what did all that say to you? >> he might be a killer. and she has to get out of this. >> has to? >> has to. >> reporter: john had an explanation of course, even for that cyanide. >> he says he has multiple sclerosis, and that he kept the capsules around in case he needed to kill himself if it got too painful for him. >> reporter: this time, however john's story didn't ring true, not even to debra.
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>> he still continued to treat me incredibly well. but he tried to isolate me from everyone. >> especially your family. >> especially my family. >> reporter: and now, chastened and afraid, she reconciled with her daughters and read everything they had uncovered about john meehan's past. >> i assume by this time you didn't feel in love with him anymore? >> no. >> what did you feel? >> confusion. i thought, "how could this man fake it to this degree? did he love me or was this all a game?" and i realized i was his newest victim. >> reporter: in april 2016, 16 months after marrying john
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meehan, she fled from the home they shared in vegas back to orange county, and from a safe distance, she filed for an annulment. and soon discovered just as tonia bales had discovered years before that john could turn on a dime. he started by trying to ruin her reputation. sent weird, inappropriate emails to her colleagues, her clients. >> did he send photographs of you to anybody?
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that stops. >> once i found out has was going on i knew what i had to do. >> reporter: she raced to the parking lot. her mother called 911. >> screaming and saw a man waving his hand up and down. >> officers are on the way with sirens. did she say if blood was drawn? >> i don't know. somebody said she was bleeding. >> reporter: schuyler got to the parking lot and saw a man and woman she didn't know. >> i saw him actually stab her. >> reporter: that woman being stabbed was terra, who, with her dog cash, had just stepped out of her car to find someone waiting. dirty john. >> he said, "do you remember me?" he looked me right in the eyes. >> reporter: there was no pause, no time to think. terra, sitting here talking about it, was still struggling with what happened. still visibly keeping an emotional distance, as if it happened to somebody else. >> he was trying to push me into the car. he actually had the trunk wide open. >> trunk. so he wanted you in the trunk of
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his car? >> yes. >> reporter: john was 6'2". a foot taller than terra. as he pushed her, he began hitting her with a bag. something hard in it. >> it just felt like i was getting punched over and over again. >> reporter: but it wasn't that. there was a knife in the bag. cutting her. slicing into her. >> and i put my arm up with my
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purse above my heart. and i tried to get away from him. i was screaming. he put his hand over my mouth. and i bit as hard as i could. >> reporter: cash the dog barked furiously. bit into john's ankle. >> i got thrown down onto the ground somehow. and i was just pedal kicking him trying to block the knife when he's stabbing me. and i kicked the knife out of his hand, and it landed on my righthand side. >> reporter: and then, full of adrenaline, she did something astonishing. >> i picked up the knife and i started just wailing on him and stabbing him. and i pushed him down. i stabbed him at the top of his head and then, the last time was in the eyeball. >> did you aim for that? >> i did. that's the zombie kill. >> reporter: that show, "the walking dead." her education for fighting evil. >> what did you understand from watching that show about how you deal with zombies? >> you have to kill them in the head. like, you have to kill their brain. >> reporter: the police arrived. their dashcam video picked up skylar, the junior lifeguard, leading a very shaken terra to the curb. >> right down here to the bottom okay? >> reporter: where, still terrified, she called her mother. >> i think i might have killed him. i'm sorry. [ crying ] i'm sorry. i knew this was going to happen. did i not tell you he was going to try to hurt us? >> she said, "mom, i just killed
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your husband. i'm so sorry." and i'm thinking, "what?" >> reporter: debra raced over there. >> you could see police cars blocking it off, fire engines. it was crazy. >> they wouldn't let you in? >> they said it was a crime scene. >> reporter: john meehan never regained consciousness. and four days later, dirty john was dead. right after the attack, newport beach detective rick henry found john's killer, terra, at the hospital. her dog still guarding her. >> and she told me the whole story. >> the whole story's a -- pretty complicated mess? >> yes. >> reporter: as doctors treated terra's wounds, detective henry began investigating. the whole family waited and worried. >> so what were you afraid of? >> well, i didn't know if they would for sure know that it was him attacking her, and it was self-defense. >> so you were afraid that they
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might charge her with something? >> yes. >> reporter: there's a process the law must follow. careful consideration. august became september, october, november. debra didn't know it, but the detective had discovered something in the trunk of john's car. >> we found a backpack with numerous other knives inside. we found zip ties. we found duct tape. we found his passport. >> it took some organization. it took thinking. he's planned this out. this was a revenge killing. >> reporter: orange county deputy district attorney matt murphy believed the evidence spoke for itself. >> there is an image of this young woman in the hospital with her dog sitting on her bed. talk about a picture saying 1,000 words. it screams out that this is an innocent woman who came very close to being murdered by a really bad guy and fought bravely and survived.
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>> reporter: the prosecutor said it was an easy decision. this was self-defense. case closed. >> did a feeling come with that? >> a sense of relief that it's, like, finally over. >> reporter: john meehan's ex-wife tonia bales was working when she got the news. >> do you remember that moment? >> oh, yeah. it made me tremble. i was in the middle of a case, and it just -- it popped up on the screen as a notification. "john was killed." by the time i took the patient outta the room, i was in tears. yeah. i wasn't in tears 'cause he died. i was in tears 'cause i had to tell his children. and that made me very sad to have to tell them. it was awful. >> reporter: her daughters, 16 and 21 at the time, said they regretted not being able to show him how well they turned out in spite of him. and now? debra still struggles with guilt. >> i would have never, ever in my entire life put my kids at fear -- or put them in danger. that was the last thing on my
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mind, is that he would be going after one of my kids. >> you feel lucky in a way? >> oh, i feel very lucky. i believe terra saved many lives. saved my life. saved many other victims. >> reporter: terra was diagnosed with ptsd. she still has some healing to do, but she returned with us to that parking lot. >> i don't wanna poke and prod too much, but what happens inside your stomach when you're here? >> i just get a lot of anxiety. i just have flashbacks of me running down the ramp and just, like, going to the cement. >> reporter: she gamely showed us the spot where she looked death in the eye. and struck back. this wasn't an easy thing to do. >> i'm just taking it all in right now. >> uh-huh. i think you're a tough cookie. right? >> yeah, that's what a lot of people say. [ laughter ] i guess so. [ laughter ] >> reporter: and dirty john meehan is an ever more distant memory now. his trail of victims safe from his terror. thanks to a young woman and a
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little dog who fought for her life -- and won. that's all for now. i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." >> the details are so crazy, i couldn't make sense of it. >> a successful young couple ambushed, they said, in the dead of night. attacked. abducted. >> we're like, wow. where is she? >> i didn't have a clue what happened. >> but the real question, was their story even true? >> we were not able to substantiate what the couple was saying. >> could this be
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