i work up here. >> yes, he does. senator klobuchar will join none other than rachel maddow fp i wouldn wouldn't want to miss that. hardball with chris matthews is up next. >> putin's motive. donald trump's deal. let's play hardball. for the very first time robert mueller's prosecutors have revealed a quid pro quo between the trump campaign and russia. i'm chris matthews in washington. we have an explosive show for you. we're following the face up with donald trump and beto

o'rourke are holding grueling rallies over the border wall. the special counsel's office has a working theory in its collusion inquiry. it would support trump's political ambitions if he support russia's ambitions in ukraine. as the new york times report today, the clue came last week at hearing in case of paul manafort who stands accused of lying about his contact with an associate tied to russian intelligence. when the judge asked why manafort's alleged ties or lies were important, mueller's prosecutor responded with this remarkable explaination. quote, this goes to the larger view of what we think is going on and what we think the motive is. this goes to the heart of what the special counsel's office is investigating. in other words, manafort's conversations with that russian operative appear central to a possible quid pro quo between

the trump campaign and the kremlin. to that point, the times reports a closer look at the transcript from that hearing shows that the prosecutors have been keenly focused on discussions the two men had about a plan to end the conflict that followed russia's invasion of ukraine. that so called peace plan for ukraine was so sensitive that manafort lied to prosecutors about discussing it. it may explain what russia expected in return, the unprecedented help they lent donald trump and his campaign against donald trump. i'm joined by ken vogle, malcolm nance. the central question is did russia try to help trump and did trump try to help russia?

>> what mueller is working on is trying to figure out what russia is trying to figure out. it would go down to russia's benefit including lifting those sanction, which as we know, was russia's number one and remains russia's number one foreign policy. >> russia began a campaign to help trump win. they figged out wa was going on and people like manafort, close to russia, the pro russian forces, decided we'll jump aboard this train. we will help them do that by saying we'll stop american opposition to their grabbing of crimea and offensive strategy toward ukraine and stop the sanctions to reward them so they'll keep doing this. they will continue to help us in the kpacampaign.

>> that's part of what mueller seems to be trying to figure out is whether russia is trying to use manafort to sort of push trump further on this. trump had already said a number of things. there was already reason for russia to believe that trump would be a better president for them than hillary clinton. what we see here, potentially, if this is, in fact, sort of blessed out reach by russia through this guy through the trump campaign through paul manafort is an effort to figure out whether they could get buy in on a plan or plans that could give them what they wanted from a president. >> you find out a guy wants to give you 10,000 bucks, you go back to him for 100,000. trump sees they want to help, they'll help me even more if i do certain things. >> then you're talking about a quid pro quo. i think ken's article is really good. it gets to the point of where was there an effort by russia.

the kremlin going to the trump campaign by someone who is already damaged good, paul manafort. a person who owned person to a russian oligarch. this operation has a longer time line. we saw in 2012 donald trump had made contact with constantine, the head of russia's tv 1. they established the research agency. 2014 they invade crimea and trump has praise of vladmir putin. 2015, russia starts hacking the dnc. this particular component with c constantine is a guarantor they will get in and have those sanctions raised if this can be proven. this is one component of a very broad base intelligence operation. >> what does robert muleller hae to prove in a courtroom for quid

pro quo? it can't be implied. you have to basely prove somebody said if you do this, i'll do that. that's a quid pro quo. what do you have to prove here? >> that's right, chris. if you were trying to prove a straight out bribery case which is one possible charge here, you would have to show that trump or someone on his behalf basically made a pretty expressed promise that they would lift sanctions in exchange for what they were getting which was help on the campaign, help throwing the election, maybe something with trump tower. there are other possible charges here. i do think that bribery is a possible charge but really depend on mueller's evidence and whether there's proof of that kind of guarantee. remember mueller has already charged the russians with interfering if our election.

if say manafort is part of that conspiracy by giving poll data if trump was aware of it and did something to make sure that went forward, he could be in that conspiracy. he's like the mob boss. no one would do anything without his approval. they would have to know he was okay with what they were doing. it's not just manafort. it's the people meeting at trump tower. it's all these people doing things. trump would have to give his approval and that could be fluff.

>> you don't tell them what to do. he does it because he's a pro. you know what the boss wants and you do it. can you catch a guy because manafort knows what trump wants. he wants to win the election and he wants whatever help he can get. it doesn't take much intelligence. >> it's part of reason the justice department gets a lot of criticism from government watchdog who is say they failed to aggressively prosecute these cases because the standards can be really tough to meet. exactly, as you said, trump wouldn't have had to tell paul manafort, i want you to help me become president. that would have been pretty clear. that said, some of the granular details that are important to remember is you can't understand russians efforts to meddle in the 2016 election unless you understand the ukraine question.

they've always wanted to take back as much as ukraine as possible. it's a key part of greater russia. what we also know before the 2016 election is that two men, who is ukrainian parliamentarian who is the go between michael cohen and russian investors on the trump moscow talks approached with a peace plan where they had specific details. >> that's the way piece communists do it. >> i spoke earlier today with a person who had direct knowledge of that plan who said one of the things that was important piece of it was limited nato's access to ukraine. making it so the west had less of a military footprint where the world was trying to expand. >> to your point about the difficulty in charges these cases s cases, it's possible this theory may never manifest in an

indictment but we might see it laid out as the connective tissue in a mueller report that may or may not be publicly released but never have someone charged in direction connection with this theory even fp they are. >> it always looked like the theory that made sense. trump long appeared willing to lift the sanctions imposed on russia to punish them for annexing crimea and ukraine. trump was asked this question by a woman who was later identified as a russian agent. >> if you were elected as president, what will be your foreign politics especially in the relationships with my country and do you want to continue the politics of sanctions that damage both economy or you have any other ideas? >> i don't think you would need the sanctions. i think we would get along very, very well. sgl just before the republican convention the language was changed to weaken the republican

party's position on assistance to ukraine. >> manafort denied the campaign was responsible for doing so. >> everybody on the platform committee said it came from the trump campaign. if not you, who. >> it did not come from the trump campaign. i don't know who everybody is. >> nobody from the trump campaign wanted that change in the platform? >> no one. zero. >> republican delegates told national public radio that the trump campaign was involved in that platform change. we also know that russia expected sanctions from this president as the kremlin's deputy prime minister said just days before trump took office, quote, sanctions will soon cease being in effect. this case keeps going back to what the russians were doing for trump and what all his people seem to want to do for russia. >> exactly. you'd have tonl there was just this incredible set of coincidences that trump just --

russia just happened to be helping trump get elected and trump happen to be givining his people in russia what they wanted and there was no agreement. you don't have to be a lawyer to figure out that totally belies common sense. can robert mueller prove it? just because we know it and it may be obvious, which i think it is at this point, doesn't mean they can prove it. the fact the prosecutors in this hearing, that we have a redacted pri transcript and there were things they would not say tells me there are more chips to fall because if this was just about manafort and his contacts they would have been able to talk about that at the hearing. >> malcolm, let's talk about how history will look at this moment. if trump walks on this, there's

no strong robert mueller report that nails them. everybody has been following this case that watch this program and others like it have been following this case for two years. they know all the pieces of it and know it's not all coincidental. they know it's so much action here on both sides that it's hard to imagine it any other way that they were working together with the same goal. get trump in there and get the trump team to help russia. all putin wants is to rebuild the russian empire again starting with ukraine. we don't know what he's up to. he's kgb from his toes to his head. that's what he is. >> right. >> what will happen if he gets away with this? what kind of a government would we have at this point? >> i'm pretty sure when you're talking about robert mueller, a man who was an fbi officer his entire life. he's got all the bearings of

eliot nest. there's no one to this administration that's untouchable. when benedict arnold gave the plans to west point and they captured major andre, they didn't have any real plaevidenc linking those plans to benedict arnold. every one knew it was treason when they caught the man and they hung him. at some point there's going to be a bridge of data that will be unassailable. if donald trump through a series of coindens knew nothing about the myriad of basic activities around him that started back in 2012 and end up with multiple indictments around him then i've got a bridge to sell you in brooklyn. >> ken, are we as tough as george washington. when he was head of the arm he hanged that guy. >> no.

short answer. it will be a big question about whether the mueller report sees the light of day. there may be a few more bread crumbs in some of the ongoing cases. we'll see the roger stone case. there is the poshl that's the most sweeping narrative of this that lays out other guests suspect is already true. we'll never actually become charges against either trump or trump associate. that's a possibility and then it will be left to congress. >> it will be hard for people to unravel this. we have learned it all. people know it. these incredible coincidences and what you see as a narrative of deceit and collusion. >> mump of what mueller has brought forward in his charges, not all, but a lot has been reported by journalists who have been able to uncover a lot of what the russians were trying to do. it brings it in and gives us

more detailed information and having it from a prosecutor can give the public more confidence than when it's journalists basing it on their sources. at the same time we have seen a ton of reporting. >> you're a competitive bunch. give this guy some credit. good work there. thank you. there's no emergency and no one want a shutdown. can lawmakers cut through the politics and get a border deal done by there friday. trump says he's the hardest working president ever. this goes back to washington. a new batch of leaked private schedules is casting light on my executive time. why does elizabeth warren get under president trump's skin the most. maybe it's like the one she made this weekend taunting donald trump about his future.

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welcome back. it's a dramatic split screen over the battle of border security taking place in el paso, texas. beto o' rourke is holding a anti-border call and president trump will hold a campaign style rally to make his case for a wall. last week he falsely characterized el paso's crime rate. tonight's duelling events come as congressional members have four more days to keep the government open. mick mulvaney said there's no guarantee the president would accept deal. >> is it fair to say whatever congress hands him, he'll sign, he just may not be enthusiastic

about it? >> i don't think so. >> we cannot rule out a government shutdown? >> you cannot. >> they met today after talks stalled this weekend over disagreement on the number of detention beds available to i.c.e. lawmakers have until friday to assert a sect shutdown. congressional negotiates are expected to meet next hour. peter baker, chief white house correspondent. are we talking another stopgap? >> i don't think so. i think they are really going to try to get an agreement. these aren't just some random

members of congress. these are the best pros that we have. they are used to cutting deals. the democrats believe in border security. we ought to find a compromise that's acceptable to the republican leadership of the house an senate. while there are a lot of grim faces around, that always happens at the end of negotiations. you always hit obstacles and lets give them some air to breathe and give them a chance to get this deal done. no one, no one in the capital wants to see another shutdown and no one in the country want f to see another shutdown. >> let me go to pete. this started because trump wanted a wall. a lot of democrats came out saying you shouldn't take a debatable policy question and use it to shutdown the government. having taken that position, taked out that position, democrats are insisting on cap with a number of beds available for people put into detention

and picked up in the united states who are already here. isn't that a policy argument they are trying to win with a shutdown threat? >> that's the risk. >> go ahead. peter. >> i think -- let me go to peter baker. >> sorry, congresswoman. that's the risk for democrats. they came out of the first round of this shutdown feeling they were emboldened. they faced down president trump. he had to back down without getting a single dime. 0 now they are trying to capitalize on that momentum. they don't want to look like they are responsible for shuttingdown the government. nobody is angling for any kind of shutdown here.

the problem remains what will the president do. if they come up with a deal that does settle the issue, that does include some money for some barrier but not what he want, is it something he will sign or go do a national emergency and take over this effectively through unilateral dela raticlaration o. >> go ahead, congresswoman. >> in the democrats and republicans agree on appropriations bill, the billion doesn't sign it at his own risk. this means that elected representatives have agreed on border security. we're seeing we need more judges. we don't need to put people in detention for long periods of time. we need to go back to the rule of law about asylum and to move people quickly through the process so we don't fleedneed a

of people being detained and certainly not their children. there are big r issger issues t just number of beds. i think it's important that we put our faith in the real pros here. the appropriators and give them the support that they need to get this deal cut. then the president will have to make a very tough decision in which he can explain why when elected officials came together and agreed on a deal that it wasn't good enough for him. >> okay. let me go back the peter on this. i have a question. it seems the wall people, that would be the people on television, ann coulter and the other guy on fox. rush limbaugh and the rest of them were pushing for the wall or else you're a weakling. now the more activist wing in the democratic party, they want to get rid of i.c.e.

are we getting pressure from both sides now to avoid a deal. >> absolutely not. >> there's going to be people that have strong views about what ought to be included in the appropriations process. we can debate the role of i.c.e. i don't like their policies either. we're talking about 20,000 federal employees. hard working federal employees. we don't like the policies. every time we don't like a policy, we ought the change that policy if we have the power to do that. it's the same as closing down the government. you have a debate about an issue and then you decide if you don't get your way, you're going to affect 800,000 hard working people and their families. this is adolescent behavior. it's time to let the pros in appropriations cut the deal for all of us. >> thank you, congresswoman. let me go back to peter on this. even as president trump has made

his case for a boarder wall, president trump's golf course employed dozens of undocumented immigrants noticing the purge of unauthorized workers for five trump properties contributes to mounting evidence the president benefitted for years for the work of illegal laborers he now vilifies. mike mulvaney was asked about that in an sbeinterview with fo. here we go. >> how do you explain this apparent hypocrisy by president trump and his business? >> i've talked about compartmentalization. it's a trump that goes to the trump organization and not the trump white house. >> not my job, peter. i think he put trump under the bus there. he said good question. makes sense. why the hypocrisy. he's saying that about his boss. >> i think that's the best

answer which is to say not my rule to answer. it's a good question and one the trump organization hasn't given a good answer to. it's been going on for years. the new york time found a number of undocumented workers who come forward because they wanted to make their stories known because they thought there was some hypocrisy at the golf clubs for them to be employed. they say knowingly by an organize headed by a person who now president of the united states and trying to take touch a hard line on illegal immigration. it begs the question why he wouldn't have had his clubs and his organizations do a better screen of this in the first place knowing he would come under scrutiny like this. everybody would have understood reporters, and opposition figures would have been trolling for examples of this kind of thing. surprising he didn't make a point of avoiding this exact scenario.

>> pee >> peter, answer this big question. it's a big one. trump, we know his lifestyle. he's got fixers like michael cohen to cover up for the relationships. we know his personal lifestyle requires that service for people to work around and cover up his lifestyle. he comes out as mr. pro life in the kpacampaign, mr. moral lead. he says i'm against imlegal immigrai -- illegal immigrants. they work harder the first day they are here illegally. complete and utter hypocrisy. what do you make of that? it's a big frauds. your thoughts. >> we go to the rallies like the one he's having in texas and we ask his voters and they say we get he's not always going to be consistent with the things he

expresses but we think he's doing a good job by mix things up and raising these questions and breaking china. it's this sort of combative mode of politics that has sort of over shadowed to his own voters the details of his own past. why christian conservatives back a president who is now on his third wife and had his own series of allegations of sexual imp imp improprie impropriety. he has a lot of these judges that will be approved and they are concerned about that than his own personal morals. he advocated the policies they want to see. >> this is what brought down the soviet union. this utter hypocrisy. the future of oligarchs. we have a system where a

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get this, ever. he tweeted over the weekend that he quote, probably works more hours than almost any past president because when he took office the country was a mess. he added this morning, no president ever worked harder than me. it's not first time he boasted about his performance. >> that was some crowd. we had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches. >> there's never been a presidency that's done so much in such a short period of time. >> the bottom line is there is the biggest tax cut and reform in the history of our country. >> there are those that are saying it's one of the finest group of people ever assembled as a cabinet. >> the art of the deal is one of the number one, probably the number one best selling business book of all time. >> i went to an ivy league school. i'm very highly educated. i know words. i have the best words. >> i know words. that's my favorite. the president tweets come after axios got its hand on months of private schedules. they show he spent about 60%,

three or five hours of his day in executive time. after the white house launched an internal hunt to find the terrible leaker, they received more private schedules showing his agenda from last week. this schedule show the president spent half his time in executive time. first of all, where did we start. i have a theory. that long times in about four feet long. the that the longest tie in history. >> no cable news host in history has ever asked as good a question oz that right theas th. you would think that would be part of the time, the hair and the oranging of the face. he seems to be getting defensive. in addition to what you just played that he's done better than anybody else, he respects women more than anybody else. believes in the first amendment than anybody else, reads the

bible more anybody else, he's less racist. that's when he does one of these over the top things and said, yes, lincoln fought the civil war and fdr died after exhaustion in world war ii. >> a lot of new testament bible books also show jesus with his hand in the air like this. trump does that. he makes these proclamations about his greatness like jesus saying something that's important. as the story goes, he had a few drinks and quoted as saying the supreme court just come on sandy, baby, loosen up. you're too tight. this morning president trump tweeted. the democrats are so self-righteous and angry. loosen up and have some fun. the country is doing well.

he's channelling the great, drunken, don john. >> it seems he has a problem. tonight he's in el paso saying there's a horrible crisis and murders and rapists and drug dealers are coming across our border. he's said he had to work so hard because the country is in this disaster shape from barack obama. which is it? is the country in a crisis or should we all just lighten up? >> when they put out his apb looking for who was leaking his schedule in great detail going back to november. intimate private scheduling of the president. the person who leaked that did it again this week. you guys all laugh when i bring there up. i'll ask you the question on camera and catch your face. isn't it harder to work than report this guy now? you all laugh the same way, it's just as easy as ever. >> i think it's easier because

there's more disaffected people. his executive time was 60%. it went down to 50%. he's really had to cut back these last few days on executive time. >> how do you satirize a president like this? it's already done. it's one we all live with every day. >> i'm the greatest. these things are measurable. they say we come back with our fact checkers and says the fact checkers are fake. up next, two more democrats made it official this weekend. what's their priorities? tackling big issues or trying to tackle donald trump? this is quite a cage match between a lot of people and this guy. stay with us. a lot of people ans guy. stay with us ♪ -morning. -morning. -what do we got? -keep an eye on that branch. might get windy. have a good shift.

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senator amy klobuchar is now the nineth democratic candidate and fifth female lawmaker to enter the 2020 presidential race. the three term senator from minnesota braved freezing temperature and steady snowfall on sunday to make her announcement in minneapolis. >> we are tired of the shutdowns and the show downs of the gridlock and the grand standing. i am running for this job for every person who wants their work recognized and rewarded. i am running for every american. i am running for you. >> she joins senator elizabeth warren who made her bid official on saturday up in lawrence, massachusetts. >> the man in the white house is not the cause of what is broken, he's just the latest and most extreme symptom of what's gone wrong in america. a product of a rigged system that props up the rich and

powerful and kicks dirt on every one else. >> president trump indulged in his favorite political past time twitter taunts. he tweeted amy cloannounced he running for president. by the end of her speech she looked like a snow man or woman. on saturday he hit senator warren with this. senator warren referred to by me as pocahontas. will she run as our first native american candidate or has she decide that after 32 years this is not playing so well anymore. see you on the campaign trail in capital letters, liz. was that a reference to the trail of tears, the forced relocation of native americans in the 1830s and 1840s with thousands died from hunger, frostbite and disease? donald trump junior got in on the action by posting this message on instagram.

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swe tweets by saying he might be in jail by the time the election comes around. >> by the time we get to 2020, donald trump play -- may not even be president. [ applause ] >> in fact, he may not even been a free person. >> i'm joined by susan page. you know what, some people like that stuff. do you? >> yeah. >> really tough, in your face. >> senator warren loves campaigning. you can tell that. she's very effective on the stump. her announcement was fantastic. what i think of what makes an effective announcement if you're running for president especially in crowded primary, what is the message you're delivering and what am i going to remember as a potential voter, as a democratic primary voter. when i think of elizabeth warren, i think of fighter who wants to take a system that's

rigged for the wealthy and help the middle class. i think of somebody like amy klobuchar i think of someone who has grit and determination and wants to work across the aisle with messages. tonally, they're different. >> right, that's the point. the two of them have achieved that. you don't have to wonder, why is elizabeth warren running for president? what is her platform? same with amy klobuchar. you know from their announcements. >> one's the fighter, the pug, i'm going to punch them in the face, if i have to. and one says they're the girl next door. >> they've both portrayed themselves as fighters, but their attitude toward president trump is different. you've seen elizabeth warren talking about trump, suggesting trump might be in prison by 2020. and you had amy klobuchar, who did not say trump's name during her announcement event. she -- but she also portrays herself as a fighter, but as a fighter for people on the issues people care about, but not so much as a fighter against president trump in particular. >> who's fighting the indian wars, as you used to say growing up? this is crazy.

she called herself an american indian in an application for the texas bar back in the '80s. she's been called on that. she didn't bring it up. the press caught that, "the washington post" caught that. she admitted she did it when she got caught. that's called rolling disclosure. trump jumped on the it. he seemed to be winning the argument in terms of terrorizing the issue. and then he made that comment about the trail in his tweet this morning. was he referring to the trail of tears, where all of those native americans died of hunger and frostbite? was he doing that? >> does he know what the trail of tears is? i don't even know if he has that historical understanding of our nation's history. >> well, we checked all the reporting today, all-around, every reporter, objective or not or whatever, but everybody said he was talking trail of tears, susan. >> i think that was definitely the implication. and the white house did not push back. >> so he's turned it into an ethnic slur when you could have argued it was just a shot at her personally for appropriating native american identity, he's going out and making fun of the -- well, the terror that was inflicted on native americans by

the white people. >> well, that's right. although i don't think -- this is not a big contrast with his attitude, generally. he's combative guy that does think that people find, people who are not supporting him find offensive all the time. this is the latest in a list. and you know, i think that he thinks that he's got an issue with elizabeth warren when it comes to claiming indian heritage, that is -- that goes to one of her big strengths, which is her authenticity. it makes her look -- >> so is this the bully who found the weakness in the kid on the schoolyard or the person who's afraid of the kid on the schoolyard? >> maybe both. that's maybe why you target someone if you're a bully. >> i think he looks for weaknesses like low-energy jeb. he punches anyone down he thinks he can do it to. >> i think he thinks this is her achilles heel, but going forward, we're not going to be hearing as much about this. we're going to have 15, 20 people running, the democratic primary debates are going to start in a couple of months. >> is she going to hide in the

crowd? i think trump doesn't quit. he gets these nicknames like lil' marco and doesn't let go of them. >> i don't think he quits, but i don't think it matters when she starts talking about the issues. >> senator klobuchar was asked about the president's twitter habit. let's watch. >> how do you handle things like the tweets, things like being called names? >> first of all, you don't go down the rabbit hole with everything he says. you've got to have your own optimistic, economic agenda. and hillary had that. she would have been a tremendous president. but it got lost in that campaign. sop you have to pick your battles with him. and i think you have to use some humor, like i got to do yesterday, right away. >> so we're going into the battle again, the second fight with trump. hillary clinton fought the first battle. and everybody since then said, there must have been something you could do, coming up like a monster behind her in the debate, loomed over her like a monster. even to this day, is there a way to deal with that kind of bullying behavior? what do you do to a guy like that? >> one person who's found out

how to deal with that and that would be nancy pelosi. maybe the presidential candidates can take a look at her attitude, which is, which is respectful in a way, but in another way, just brutally critical. >> yeah, no, i think susan's exactly right -- >> and nikki haley in her own way. "i don't get confused." >> i think susan's exactly right. and amy klobuchar is right, too. you've got to pick your battles. if trump comes after you like something he's gone after elizabeth warren on the american indian heritage front, you've got to address that, because that goes right to her authenticity, which is what she's all about. but if he's throwing out some silly tweet about something that is essentially irrelevant to you, you can just sort of ignore it and blow it off. >> maybe he'll have somebody like you to help him, because this requires discernment. >> no, thank you. >> i'm just teasing. thank you, souvenir paige, thank you, andrea elrod. up next, beto makes his move tonight. we'll watch him against trump, realtime. (burke) parking splat. and we covered it.

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beto o'rourke is making his move tonight. the democrat who dared challenge senator ted cruz in texas is back in the battle. he's out to challenge president trump and he's doing it after months of laying low. the laying low could help build the interest, even excitement of his appearance tonight. because what he's daring to do is match president p.t. barnum in hoopla, staging a rally at the same time and in the same city as donald j. trump himself.

let's see how all of this works, how putting the question of size or bigness right before the cameras, right before the american people is a good strategy and has long seem eed be. in the coming weeks, beto o'rourke will need to make an even bigger move, declaring his candidacy for president. will trump take a whack at him like he did before the election in november? >> ted's opponent in this race is a stone-cold phony named robert francis o'rourke, sometimes referred to as beto. and he pretends to be a moderate, but he's actually a radical open borders left winger. >> it will be intriguing to see whom among the front-line democrats trump fears a year from this november in the fall of 2020 and who he fears today, in february of 2019. what happens when a candidate, beto or warren or kamala or someone else dares to show she or he's -- well, let's check out the word, bigger than him,

bigger. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in" -- >> you know what works? a wheel and a wall. >> the wall salesman meets resistance at the border. >> we will meet lies and hate with the truth and a vision for the future. >> tonight, beto and trump and negotiations over what could be another shutdown over donald trump's wall. >> i will take the mantle. >> plus, big new clues from the mueller probe pointing at collusion with the russians. >> that's what he said -- that's what i said -- that's obviously what our position is. >> and new reporting on the source of the bezos leak to the "national enquirer." >> i can't discuss who the source was. >> and what it could mean for the president. >> if they are prosecuted for being part of the michael cohen conspiracy, bad news for the president. >> "all in" starts right now.