office. that i can tell you. >> the president of the united states in his own words could take us off the air tonight. and that is our broadcast for this monday evening as we start new week together. thank you so very much for being here with us. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. big show for you tonight. weave seen a lot of people announce this year that they are running for president. we have not seen anybody else do it like this. [ laughter ] >> in the middle of a blizzard. with no hat on. senator amy klobuchar of the great state of minnesota just announced her campaign for president of the united states. i have it on good authority she has since thawed out and will be my guest here live in studio in just a moment. in terms of news that we are keeping an eye on tonight, you should know that the president's long time personal lawyer michael cohen today postponed

the testimony that he was due to give tomorrow to the senate intelligence committee. you might remember michael cohen was interviewed by the senate intelligence committee in october 2017. that has since become a famous bit of testimony because he has since pled guilty to lying during that sworn testimony about the president's efforts to build a trump tower in moscow during the campaign. in light of that guilty plea by michael cohen where he admitted lying to congress, the senate intelligence committee asked him to come back and testify again although this time they said it would not be voluntary. they sent him a subpoena last month for him to testify tomorrow. we thought that was on track but now today, we learned that testimony before senate intelligence will be rescheduled. his testimony that was due last week to the house intelligence committee, that was also rescheduled. committee chairman adam schiff said cohen's testimony to the house intelligence committee had

to be delayed, quote, in the interests of the investigation. we don't really know what that means. we don't know why michael cohen's congressional testimony both voluntary and subpoenaed, why that keeps getting put off. but regardless of what these committees are able to work out with him, they can only put it off for so long. michael cohen is scheduled to report to federal prison in three and a half weeks. so if they are eventually going to hear from him before he turns up to get his orange jumpsuit, there's not much time to do it. still, the committee seemed comfortable he's delaying. they aren't expressing concern or worry or beating their chest. they seem to think they will get him but not getting him yet. we're following that today with clarity on what it means, presumably we'll know in the long run. today we also have been following the big news out of colorado. this was the colorado state capitol building today. thousands of denver

schoolteachers marching to the state capital to launch their strike against the denver school district. this is the first time denver teachers have gone on strike in decades. it was below freezing but more than half of the 4,000 plus school teachers were in the streets. the teachers are asking not just for higher pay but interestingly, they are asking for more stable and predictable pay. right now denver teachers are paid a low base salary and then they get an end of the year bonus, but the end of the year bonus can swing up and down quite widely which makes for a very unpredictable total amount of compensation from year to year, which makes it hard to live, hard to plan. denver schools were still open today on the first day of the strike but a lot of students walked out of class today, too and joined their teachers on the picket lines. teachers say they want this to resolve fast but it's not clear how that will happen. tomorrow will start day two of

that big strike. i want to tell you something that just broke within the last half an hour. for the past week, congress has been trying to -- a conference committee in congress has been trying to work out a deal to avert another government shutdown. the deadline to come up with a bill to avert a shutdown which would have to be passed by both chambers of congress and signed by the president, that deadline is this friday or another shutdown starts. well, just tonight, just within the last 25 minutes that conference committee, that group of bicameral, bipartisan legislators who have been trying to find some deal to avert the shutdown, they have just announced they've got a deal. they have reached, a quote, agreement in principle about funding the government. now, we have no idea what that agreement is. we have no details about their supposed deal. the lawmakers do say it includes some sort of funding for some sort of border security. we don't know if that includes any money for the president's beloved wall idea. but again, they do say they have

a deal. we will keep you posted as we learn more. what remains to be seen, of course, even if these conference committee members do have a deal they can all agree on, if it can pass the house and pass the senate, of course it would still have to be signed by the president in order to avert the government being shutdown. the senate and the house already agreed on noncontroversial legislation to fund the government in an ongoing way. the president reperused to sign it. that led to the longest ever government shutdown in history, which we are just out of. so, yes, there's an announcement tonight there's a deal, but there's a gigantic grain of salt riding that announcement without a salad. so we will let you know again more about that when we learn more. we're also, of course, watching what's happening tonight in el paso. right now as we speak president trump is starting a campaign-sficampaign campaign-style rally in el paso, texas. el paso sits right along the border between the united states

and mexico. at his "state of the union" address last week you might remember the president using el paso as sort of a case study for why he wants his wall so much. he says el paso is terrible, violent, dangerous place until a portion of fencing went up on the u.s. border at el paso. and he described that bit of fencing as essentially solving all of el paso's problems. factually that's total horse hockey. el paso does have a very low crime rate, but that was the case long before that little bit of fencing was put up. so unless it's a time traveling bit of fencing, that whole argument never made much sense, and el paso knows it. nevertheless, the president is due to appear in el paso at any moment, making the case for building his magic wall on the border to keep immigrants out. and he of course will be making that pitch against the backdrop of what is another looming government shutdown over this very issue at the end of this week if that deal does not produce legislation that both

houses agree to and that he consents to sign. you should also note tonight that el paso is little bit of a weird spot for the president to be holding this campaign rally tonight. it's weird because of the things he's been saying about el paso that's fundamentally is not true. it's also just weird he's there. he does like holding campaign rallies even when it's not election season, but he always holds them in deep red places, very republican places. that is not el paso. in the 2016 election donald trump lost ulpaso by 43 points. to put in perspective just how bad of a loss that is donald trump lost el paso county by a bigger margin than he lost blue blue state california. so el paso was a little bit of a weird place for the president to rally his base around the idea of a border wall. el paso is not a weird place for what's going to go on right across the street from the president's rally tonight, though. the president's rally is, i'll

show you right here, see that red dot? el paso county colosseum, that's the location for the president's rally tonight. show you everything here. other red dot right across the parking lot there, that's the acosta sports center in el paso. see how close those two buildings are? they're 0.2 miles away from each other, generously. but that acosta sports center, that place is spitting distance from the president's rally tonight, that is the site tonight of a counter rally against the president. tonight thousands of people marched through the streets of el paso to protest against the president's visit and his proposed border wall and what he's been saying about el paso. they're calling it the march for truth, saying they're fighting back against what the president has been saying about el paso and about immigrants and how he's been using both as political footballs. this march tonight starting about a mile away from the sports center that's across the parking lot from the president's rally. on the way there they chanted el

paso united will never be divided. and it is at the end of that march where the counter programming really starts. tonight former texas congressman beto o'rourke is headlining that rally across the street from the president. beto o'rourke of course served in the u.s. congress for six years. he became nationally known when he came close to picking off incumbent senator ted cruz in the race last year. beto o'rourke has not said yet if he too is going to run for president this next year. but there's at least some expectation that he might. beto o'rourke was born and raised in el paso and slated to start speaking tonight at this rally across the parking lot from trump's rally basically hat the moment the president was scheduled to take. can we dip into this for a second? >> because that was the only place she was allowed to go to high school in el paso, texas. had the audacity to try to enroll at texas western college and was denied entry solely

because of the color of her skin. she did not allow that injustice to deter her or to dampen her spirits enlisting the services of a little known attorney named thurgood marshal. they took that case all the way to the federal courtroom of ari thomason, and together making their stand for this community they integrated higher education for every single american in the state of texas. >> beto o'rourke speaking tonight in el paso, texas. as i mentioned he is very close. he is across the parking lot from where the president is holding essentially an anti-immigrant campaign rally. with these rallies happening so close together we're of course keeping an eye on these speeches tonight. we'll turn this around as we are getting remarks from the president and beto o'rourke.

particularly we'll be watching as these events may let out basically around the same time, which should be interesting given all these folks being envery close proximity. and this all comes at a time when more and more democrats are jumping into the 2020 race to run against president trump next year. and let me say why it's important senator amy klobuchar has decided to jump in. this will be her first cable interview, first extended interview since she announced this weekend she is running for president. the first time senator klobuchar ever ran for office was in 1998. she had no political experience at all. she had spent an internship one summer in washington, but that was it in terms of her political back grnld. her dad was a newspaper columnist, dad was a second grade teacher. both parents were from immigrant families. her grandfather had been an iron

ore miner in minnesota, but in 1998 she decided she was going to run for office for the first time. she decided she was going to run for da which was the twin cities. it was a republican leaning year, and also a random leaning year for minnesota. minnesota voters that year also elected a professional wrestler named jessie ventura to be their governor that same night she was on the ballot to become d. a. but despite the sort of head winds and cross winds there she did pull off that da race. the first time she'd ever run for office. she was elected by less than 1% of the vote. she became the prosecutor da. four years later she ran for rer re-election for that same position. no one even tried to run against her. she she spent eight years for da. no woman had ever been elected to the united states senate in

minnesota ever before. she did it and made it look easy. in 2012 she won by more than 30 mints. and this past year 2018 republicans initially made some noise about picking off her seat since after all hillary clinton had barely eked out a win in minnesota in 2016, maybe they could take amy klobuchar's seat from her in minnesota. just two years later they start today make noise about that, but try it. klobuchar ended up winning by 24 points. she was able to spend a good chunk of the -- ever since that first race she ever ran in. and now as of this weekend she's running for president. and her national name recognition is low to start out with, at least for now. but her political effectiveness is high. both electorally and in terms of

her getting stuff done, the numbers of bills she's gotten passed both under democratic and republican residence, the number of practical accomplishments she's brought home as a u.s. senator. i also thinks there's a little bit of an x. factor when it comes to amy klobuchar, which is that she's funny. and that might matter. i mean she's funny enough that it seemed like a heaven sent practical joke when god decided to dump this much snow on her outdoors no umbrella, no cover, no hat presidential campaign kick off speech this weekend in minnesota. >> hello, everyone. welcome america to boom island. where are we? >> boom island.

>> now, we don't let a little snow stop us. we don't let a little cold stop us. >> no. >> like, are you guys even cold? tell the truth. >> there was so much snow at her presidential campaign announcement people literally skied to her speech. people brought their kids to her speech but they brought them not only bundled up to an inch of their lives, they brought their kids on sleds. the location for her speech was on boom island which is on the mississippi riverfront. the site of her speech this weekend was specifically about a mile from a bridge over interstate 35. remember these pictures? bridge over interstate 35 that collapsed catastrophically in 2007. amy klobuchar had been a u.s. senator for only about six months when this bridge came crashing down. it's actually just a few blocks from where she and her family

lived. 13 people died from that bridge collapse, more than 113 people injure. you may remember those kids being rescued one by one from the school bus that was teetering over the side of the collapsed bridge. in her announcement this weekend amy klobuchar paid tribute to the heroes who rescued people in that disaster, again about a mile from where she stood. she drew a roar from the crowd when she talked about what it took to work across the aisle pragmatically, effectively when she'd been a senator for about five minutes. but nevertheless she and other politicians working together were able to get that huge bridge rebuilt and back up and running in all of about a year. constructing something that big and that important that fast takes a lot of political work. the roar from the crowd when she talked about her effectiveness in doing that gives you a portrait of the kind of senator she's been in minnesota. and people talk about being an elected official who your own constituents feel is

indispensable, that sorts of the reason why. that's why you put that at the heart of your presidential campaign announcement. so she talked about that and she went ahead and jumped in with as is his her nature some ad-libbed jokes along the way. >> we are tired of the shutdowns and the showdowns of the gridlock and the grandstanding. today on this snowy day on this island we say enough is enough. our nation -- our nation must be governed not through chaos but from opportunity. not by wallowing over what's wrong but by marching toward what's right. and it has to start with all of us. my family's story is like so many of yours. on both my mom and my dad's side they arrived in this country with nothing but a suitcase.

but they made a home here. it was cold -- okay, maybe not as cold as this. they didn't know anyone, but like so many immigrants they wanted a better life for their families. my grandpa worked 1,500 under feet of the ground up north on the iron range. he never graduated from high school. he saved money in a coffee can in a basement to send my dad to college. my dad who's here at age 90 got a two-year degree from vermilion junior college, and then finished up at the great university of minnesota. he became a journalist as a young -- thank you. i stand before you as a granddaughter of an iron ore

miner, as the first teacher elect today the united states senate in minnesota to announce my candidacy for president of the united states. i promise you this, as your president i will look you in the eye. i will tell you what i think. i will focus on getting things done. that's what i've done my whole life, and no matter what i'll lead from the heart. >> at that point in the speech the crowd starts to say aim e, amy, amy. she clearly has no idea what to do with it. she basically sort of cuts them off and tells them to stop

cheering. this is not a politician to bask in the applause. although maybe it's hard to bask in anything when it is snowing that hard. a few things about senator amy klobuchar joining the race now. first, i'm not going to lie. i think it's important she's funny. i think it's important how the country will get to know who she is. i am banking people will like that in a candidate. she's not the slickest candidate in the world, the most professionally packaged canned did the in the world, but funny sets her apart in lots of ways. and she does have a record of getting things done at home and in washington. on the other hand, it's going to matter and it's probably going to be expensive in terms of building up a base of donations on which you would run a national campaign. it's going to matter she isn't nationally well-known yet. she doesn't start with big name recognition. and also the man it seems she would be running against, it she seems like president trump has

no idea what to do with her. this was the tweet he sent trying to mock her campaign this weekend, criticizing her how much it snowed. while standing in a virtual blizzard of snow, ice and freezing temperatures. what's a blizzard of temperatures? what are you even talking about? the president concludes, by the end of her speech she looked like a snowman woman. this was her response. science is on my side, donald trump. looking forward to debating you about climate change and many other issues, and i wonder how your hair would fare in a blizzard. i mean, is that the right way to beat that guy? i don't know. i don't know. he's only run for office once and he won. i mean, in responding that way did she make you think about his hair, perhaps more importantly did she make him think about his hair? i mean he really can't be out in the snow or the rain. she can. i mean does he get nervous people knowing that. does it make him particularly

nervous to have a woman pointing that out? i don't know. you may have also seen since it became clear senator klobuchar has been running, there's a flurry of stories being a tough boss and having the staff turnover to show for it. we'll talk with her about that in just a moment. she's also got a sort of odd problem or at least a complicated development in the fact that conservatives and republicans, particularly those who have worked alongside her, seem to really like her. eek. today they praised her candidacy while laying out the case for klobuchar. quote, she may be the democrat best able to beat mr. trump. the conservative editorial board at the journal is not alone on the right in praising the minnesota senator today. today politico.com headlined how much her republican senate colleagues are likely to gush about her when asked.

quote, she's a person of character and great ability said johnny isaacson, quote, she's the whole package. corner, quote, i hope i'm not condemning her run for the presidency. she's too reasonable, he says. too likable, too nice. maine republican senator susan collins says, quote, her questioning on the judiciary committee is excellent. kansas senator pat roberts says, quote, of the folks that are running she's probably more responsible. it must be nice to hear that stuff because you're a human being and you serve vaguely your coworkers in a sense. but it must be weird to sort of plan around that kind of praise if you are running for the democratic nomination for president in these deeply polarized times. but i will just say as a person who has interviewed senator amy klobuchar probably more than anybody else -- anybody else in the field of people who are running for president this year, and i've interviewed all of them or almost all of them. i've probably interview her more

frequently than any of the rest of them. and as someone who's talked to her frequently a number of times since she has been in elected office, the biggest question for me about senator klobuchar jumping in is why exactly she would do it. i mean, for one she does seem happy, and again, a, she's funny, b, i think she's happy. and i think that will matter in terms of how she introduces herself as a candidate to the country particularly because a lot of people will not have pre-existing biases about her. they won't have a pre-existing impression of her. so she's happy, she's funny. she's also a pretty excellent senator if you ask her constituents. she keeps winning re-election by 20, 30 plus points. the next time she runs minnesota might send her back with a 40 point margin of victory. with that good a current gig, with that sort of a place from

which she would have to leap in order to do something this hard, would you make that jump? would you do it? we'll ask her. she's here next. stay with us. we'll ask her. she's here next. stay with us >> i am asking you to join this campaign. it is a homegrown one. i don't know if you can even see our number because of this snow, but you can text amy at 99110. i don't have a political machine. i don't come from money, but what i do have is this. i have grit. s this i have grit. to be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing it's best to make you everybody else... ♪ ♪ means to fight the hardest battle, which any human being can fight and never stop. does this sound dismal? it isn't.

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you know how when you stand outside sometimes in really, really cold, cold weather and your cheeks get cold and your lips go numb and sometimes your talker doesn't work the way it usually does? roll tape. >> senator, what is your take on donald trump? >> i'm definite to take on

donald trump. i would like to see him sitting out here in the snow for an hour giving this speech. [ laughter ] >> she did make it all the way through. joining us for the interview is a watch warmer indoor version of amy klobuchar. as of yesterday she's the newest candidate in the 2020 race. thank you. >> thank you. i hadn't seen that feed. i see what happened. your mouth freezes. >> i sure am. [ laughter ] >> it was cold. >> you knew it was going to be cold. you were warning people. >> yes. >> did you know you were going to have snow actually piling up on you? >> no, i did not. in fact, when i later watched the clip it felt like i was watching myself age in 20 minutes because my hair got whiter and whiter and whiter. and we didn't know it was going to snow that much that day. and we had all these camp fires, it was actually some kind of nordic festival and 5,000 cups of coca and cider, but nobody

had any idea. i talked to walter mondel an hour before he wasn't in town, and he said you're not doing it outside. i said, yes. it was just important to me to anons my candidacy with the people. we have a strong tradition of that in minnesota that go back to humphrey and paul wellstone, and also to do it by that river. not only because the bridge had collapsed and we rebuilt it in this incredible sense of community that we had during that time, but also because i thought it was a symbol of crossing the river of our divides, which donald trump, of course, has helped create. >> i was interested to see you put the bridge collapse really at the sort of emotional heart of the start of your speech. in part because you are a very well-known and beloved figure in minnesota politics, but you're not nationally known. so to put a story, a minnesota

story like that, a hometown story like that right at the heart of why you're trying to run, it felt like the idea there must be what works in minnesota can work for the country. and i believe you metaphorically, but i don't know what about that practical achievement is something that i could imagine these days happening in washington. >> well, it wasn't just about working across the aisle and giving that money, which we did, and we got that bridge that almost doesn't even look like a bridge it's so big. we got that done in over a year, so it was significant. but for mow it was just as much about the community. it was about the semi truck driver who died pbecause he veered away so he wouldn't hit the school bus. the it school bus goes down 30 feet, and a schoolworker gets these kids, every one of them off to safety. and the firefighter who dove in over and over again in the murky waters of these cars and trucks to find survivors. and that was that sense of community i feel is so fractured

right now in our country that we need to bring back, that we need to go across that sturdy bridge to a higher ground. so for me the mississippi river is more than just a river. it's really a river that runs through our heartland. it started in minnesota, through illinois, down to missouri and way down and ends in new orleans, that city of resilience. so the symbolism of it was much more than getting the funding for the project, which was a great thing and a success. but for me the reverse stood for more than that. >> in announcing you were going to run you talked about making the announcement from the mississippi, from the heartland, and there's practical politics there, too. i mean, we've got other members of the senate who are running already. we've got elizabeth warren from massachusetts, kamala harris from california, julian castro from texas, kirsten gillibrand from new york, cory booker from new jersey. >> great people.

>> people who are your colleagues and you presumably get along well with. all of those people are from the edge of the country and you're running from the center of the country. and it seems to me that must have factored into your decision whether or not to run. like you say you like all those people. it can't be you think there aren't enough qualified people running, but you think someone needs to run from the middle of the country. >> i do. and also when you look at what happened in this last 2018 election, in places like kansas, i spoke at their democratic dinner where laura kelly beat chris kobach, i mean who thought that was going to happen, but she was so strong. in wisconsin we beat scott walker. you look at all of those victories in those congressional races across the country and a lot of that was about people unifying. a lot of the focus was of course pre-existing conditions and the republicans attempt to repeal the affordable care act and kick people off their health insurance, but we worked together as a party. and much of that was going on in

the midwest, and we wanted to take back the spirit of the democratic party in the midwest. minnesota is a great place to start. as you know, we are the democratic farmer labor party, dfl. and that was done to unify our party. and i have won every congressional district every single time i've run. and i've also worked really hard to work with people in the rural areas so we don't have that kind of divide. >> i was looking back at the trump-clinton results at your state in minnesota in 2016, and hillary clinton did win the state narrowly, but you look at the electoral map county by county and congressional district by congressional district and oats a lot of red on that map. and she won basically with her urban turnout there. you as she said won every congressional district in the state. is that because you have run as a moderate. so should people seeing you for the first time see you as a more moderate or more centrist democrat in this field in.

>> i think they should see me as a progressive because i believe in progress. and i have worked towards progress my whole life. whether it was as a county attorney working with the innocence project to bring in a new form of eyewitness i.d. into our county and advocating for videotaped interte videotaped interrogations, or what i did as a senator, look at what happened in that clinton-trump race. and we're finding out more and more and more about how russia undermined that election and tried to hack it and put out propaganda. and so those democratic reforms including advocating for every young person be able to register to vote when they turned 18, that would be a great bill to get done. >> senator, i hope you will stay with us. i have lot of things to ask you about including things people are saying about you that are nice and things that are not nice. >> that happens when you run for office.

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back with us now for the interview senator amy klobuchar of minnesota who's a new newly announced candidate for the democratic presidential nominations. late last month the minneapolis star tribune interviewed a bunch of iowa voters about you. voters told them they liked you, you're smart, and they loved the job you did questioning brett kavanaugh on the supreme court nomination hearings, however they do not necessarily want you to run for president. why? one voter expressed concerns whether your skin is think enough how hard the battle will be, another said flatly you can't win because you're too nice. another said, quote, they'll run right over her. why do you defend people saying they like you too much to run for president? >> i think part of that is the nature of our politics.

people think how could someone who's more from a normal background run for a job like this? and i would say look at me out in that snow. i've always had grit. i've been the first woman to run for winning both of the jobs that i have held. and when i've gotten to the senate whether it was getting that money for that bridge that i had to stay at my desk and not move to get it done because they weren't including it in a bill, or whether it is taking on the pharmaceutical companies where i passed the bill that dealt with drug shortages which no one thought was possible. we only had two people on it when it started. or whether introducing all these bills to take on the pharmaceutical industry on crises. i've always taken on tough fights and win them, maybe not right away but eventually. >> and on the other side of this scrutiny you're getting, there's been a flurries of stories particularly in the huffington post and buzzfeed saying you are an exceedingly tough boss, maybe

too tough that has resulted in too much turnover and your temperament with your staff members is beyond demanding. how do you feel about those stories? >> el, where i love my staff. and i wouldn't be up on that stage like i was yesterday without a great staff, without a great campaign that we have put together. and also without a staff that helped me to pass all the bills and worked with me over the years. and a number of of them, i wish those stories also i know will come out. my chief of staff has been with me for five years. my state direct for seven years, my campaign manager for 12 years. so we do have that consistency. and many of them have gone onto do incredible things. jake sullivan, i brought him to washington. he became the chief policy person for hillary clinton when she was secretary of state. his brother tom was with me five years, did the same thing for john carrie.

i was teasing president obama the other day. they have hired -- the white house hired over 20 of my staff members. so you only have about 25 in a senate office. and a number of them have come back to me after they were over there. so that's my story. i know i can be too tough sometimes, and i can push too hard, that's obvious. but a lot of it is because i have high kpeexpectations for myself, i have high expectations for the people who work with me. and mostly i'm going to take those high expectations and bring them out to the country. because if we want to really get these things done, some of these things should happen. some of them there's bipartisan support bike doing things on climate change which has been literally regressing under the trump administration as the ice sheets are melting and the fire sheets are raging out in california and colorado. and i will bring those high expectations to the country.

>> when you talk about your staff -- the staff situation, i also feel like for me as somebody who's talked to you a lot over the years, and i've tracked your career ever since you were in the senate, it struck me also since you've ever really had a round of bad press. and there's the substantive matter of the allegations which you just discussed. i also am interested how you feel just in terms of your appetite in getting the inevable derisive nickname from the president and being trashed in the press fairly and unfair lay. how do you gauge yourself for that and have you ever had to deal with it before? >> my whole life i dealt with adversity. my dad growing up while he is no longer drinking at age 91 -- 90, he struggled with that his whole life and i grew up with that. i had to deal when my daughter

was porn, she was really sick. and i just always believed that if you see obstacles just as obstacles you're not going to get through them. but you see them as your path and the way forward, that's your path. and that's how i've treated that. and by the way you're not a prosecutor for eight years running in office with hundreds of lawyers and with murder cases and everything else without dealing with adversity and difficult decisions. and the same thing in the united states senate. so i might have maybe a little more happy demeanor than some of my colleagues, but it doesn't mean i'm not steely and tough and can deal with it. >> you mentioned you were teasing president obama the other day. have you spoken with president obama about your plans to run? >> yes, i have, as have i think a number of candidates. i can't think of a better person to get advice from. and he seems, by the way, in a very good mood and working on his book and so proud of what michelle's been doing. >> did he tell you you should

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they've couched this as some sort of punishment against russia, but the end state is very scary to me. >> you look at what happened, and then putin nounces he's going to move forward, and i am certain that russia has not always been honest with how they have handled these treaties, and you have to keep pushing them. but for the president after having that memorable meeting where he basically dissed his own intelligence forces in terms of their assessment what had gone on during the election with russia, then he announces we're going to get out of this treaty. and i don't think we should be doing that. i think we should be tough negotiators with russia. but our country has astand asto a beacon of democracy. i would do that on day one get our country back into that agreement. that means not balking on the iran nuclear agreement. again, our number one fear and that agreement may not have been

perfect, but now the european countries are struggling with how to make sure it's enforced so iran doesn't develop a nuclear weapon. so, yes, you can make changes to things and negotiate things. but to me it is we must stand with our allies, we must be consistent with our foreign policy, and we must listen to our troops, listen to what the military is say, listen to the intelligence officers. the other example when he announced he's pulling the troops out of syria without any real warning at all to our allies or to his own administration. and those things are all examples where he seems to conduct foreign policy by tweet. and i don't think that's what we should be doing. >> do you have views on whether or not u.s. troops should be in syria ein any sort of long run or in afghanistan in any way? >> the hope is we will be bringing them home. and i of course don't have privy to the intelligence he has, but i would not have suddenly pulled those troops out of syria like he did and leave the kurds who

have stood by our side. but eventually yes, we have to bring them home. >> in terms of the president and his foreign policy agenda and the way things work in this administration, usually with the president you talk about what the president wants to do because that is going to be what we do. with this president there's an expression of what he wants to do and what we actually do as a government is sometimes different. so for example the president nounced there would be new sanctions on russia because of the scriples poisoning, the nerve agent poisoning in the u.k. apparently his administration never followed through in enacting those sanctions. similarly the administration passed the law saying the administration has to assess whether there was saudi government responsibility for that. they appear to have just blown through it and decided they're not going to do it. does that sort of behavior by this president make republicans see him as a different kind of president, not just a republican but perhaps somebody who they even as republican members of congress may be ought to have issues with? >> yes. and of course they say that

behind closed doors. as you pointed out i do point to a lot of republicans in terms of working on legislation together and i find common ground where i can. but that's what they say behind closed doors, and sometimes they stand up. you look at what senator flake did before he left and some of what senator mccain did before we sadly lost him. there were people standing up, and i want to see that again. you see murmurs of it from senator romney and from time to time you see it from senator graham. but we need more people to stands up because this is about our own democracy. we know that russia tried to undermine our election, and yet senator langford and i still can't pass our bill for backup paper ballots that i'm leading that senator harris and senator graham are also part of. we can't pass the bill of having audits of these elections, and this is going to be really important as we go into 2020 that we make sure this election is protected so what happens to

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