tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC February 14, 2019 6:00pm-7:00pm PST
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what we want is for people to be secure. we want people to feel secure. and that, that's hard. and getting there and all it would mean is something that no amount of fencing is ever going to provide. that does it for our special edition of "all in america." thanks to the amazing reporters that spent many hours traveling the border to bring these stories tonight. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. >> incredible, incredible work tonight my friend. that was an amazing hour. thank you. thanks to you at home for joining us. lots to get to and lots going on tonight. the senate has voted earlier today and the house just has voted just started voting tonight on a bill that will keep the federal government from shutting down again tomorrow. as you can see there, this is the vote that has just happened now in the house so the senate passed it earlier. the house has now passed it. and this bill passing the house and the senate provided that the president signs it, this means
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that we will not have another federal government shutdown starting tomorrow. because the president did not succeed in using that last long shutdown, nor the threat of another shutdown tomorrow, because that was not a successful tactic for the president to try to force u.s. taxpayers to pay for a wall between the u.s. and mexico, the white house now says that although the president will sign this bill that has just passed the house in the last couple minutes, although they say the president will sign this bill that passed the senate and passed the house to keep the government open, the white house says the president will also in addition to that simultaneously declare an emergency, a national emergency. so he can raid military funds, especially to build a wall on his own despite the wishes of congress. now grain of salt here. the white house says that's what the president is going to do, right? they say that he's going to sign
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the bill that has now passed the house and senate. they say that he is also going to declare this national emergency. but with this presidency, honestly, is that actually going to happen? we don't know. the white house says it's going to happen but in this presidency is anything done and dusted before "fox and friends" says it's done and dusted. we don't know what the president is going to do and whether or not the white house announced a purported plan but of course, just the prospect, just the threat of president trump trying to do this wall thing with a decoloration, of emergency powers, just that threat in recent weeks has led as you might expect to frankly rabidly partisan attacks from the far left democrats and liberals. >> i don't think it's a good idea. i think it will be a terrible idea. i hope he doesn't do it. >> would you fight him on snit. >> sure, because i think it's
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important. >> it would be far larger act than ever occurred in the past. >> i think it's a dangerous step, one because of the president it sets, two the president is going to get sued and it won't succeed in accomplishing his goal. to me it strikes me as not a good strategy. >> i hate the idea of an emergency because i always worry about that abuse with future presidents. i hope he doesn't go that far. >> i think it would be a mistake for the president to invoke his national emergency powers for this purpose and then it would be a dubious constitutionality. i don't think that that was what the national emergencies act was intended to address. >> those are not whack liberals and democrats. those are all republican u.s. senators before the white house announced today that the president does plan to declare
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an emergency to justify a raiding u.s. military funds and maybe disaster funds to try to build his wall, lots of republican senators including conservative republican senators were willing to go on the record saying that would be a terrible idea. that would in fact be an unconstitutional idea and one they might very well fight him on. he's apparently going to do that so what are those republican senators going to say about it now and it's not just a hypothetical thing and how they will answer to history. that th this is not just a member of the individual senators. what they do know and whether they decide to stick to the previous decisions on this could make a real material difference. we have long expected if the president decided to declare an emergency to get his wall, or to get any other policy thing that was not justified by an actual real-life emergency, we long expected if he tried that, he would have an immediate court fight on his hands, one that you
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have an immediate court fight one that he wouldn't be expected to win but now that it's happening, even before we get to those court fights, what we're watching for tonight is the prospect this emergency decoloration, if he does sign one maybe never get as far as the courts. under the national emergencies act, congress can contest an emergency decoloration, from a president. thank you post watergate reforms. and a congress that was embarrassed by and terrified about the terrible presidency of richard nixon and just how much worse things might have gotten under him or some day might get under a president worse. thanks to post waiter gate reforms and the national emergencies act today under that law. if nancy pelosi has the house pass a resolution contesting the fact that trump has declared this emergency in order to build his wall, if pelosi did that, what would happen after the
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house passed something like that is that republican senator mitch mcconnell on the senate side would have no chaoice in the matter at all. that law, the national emergency act would automatically trigger a similar vote in the u.s. senate. that's the way the law works, right? if it was the senate passing a resolution to block the president from declaring this emergency, then the senate did that, that would force the house to take a similar vote and in this case it would be the house taking a vote to block the president from declaring this emergency and that under this law would trigger the senate into having to take that same vote. the other house of congress is triggered to act by the other house of congress taking a vote on this sort of thing. that's how the law is structured here. so if pelosi does this, if pelosi in the house passes a resolution blocking trump from declaring this emergency, once that vote happened, it would trigger a vote automatically in the senate and once that vote was triggered in the senate, it
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would only take a couple republicans voting to many in fact block president trump from declaring this emergency. that's all it would take. and we all know from the public record, from the tape, from the receipts that a lot more than just a couple republican senators are on the record bluntly and unequivocally and recently saying that an emergency decoloration, from this president on this would be a terrible idea and they would be willing to fight him on it. well, if they put their money where their mouth is, they could stop this president from doing it. and this is not hypothetical. this is now going to unfold over the course of tonight and into tomorrow and perhaps beyond and because of the way that law is structured, because mitch mcconnell himself can't stop this in its tracks by refusing to allow somebody to come up for a vote, he doesn't have that option which can stop everything else. because of the way that law is
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structured, there is real drama whether or not the president will be able to do what he's trying to do with an emergency decoloration, here and that means a lot of republican senators are crossing their fingers and worrying about having to take that kind of vote. so we are watching that tonight. again, the house just voted to pass the bill that will keep the government open. what this should do is result in that bill being transmitted to the white house and the president sign it but as always with this president, you don't know what he's going to do until he does it. we'll have more over the course of the hour. it is a live issue this hour and will be live tonight, tomorrow and into the weekend and while we're watching that unfold tonight, there has been a lot of other things that happened today. the new attorney general william bar w barr was confirmed and sworn in in a private ceremony. andrew mccabe for acting director of the fbi started
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speaking publicly about his own rather harrowing account of what happened in the fbi and in between the fbi and justice department. how much terror basically that raised in the fbi in terms of what this president might be capable of? we'll watch those stories and watch those developments over the course of tonight, as well. you should also know on a smaller scale that the white house released the president's latest physical results. and this is a benchmark for the president's health. it's also just a benchmark in terms of normalcy and the american presidency. the president's physical used to be a normal predictable thing, with president obama, the big drama is he still having a nicorate once in awhile. president bush choked on a pretzel. that's the limit you have with the president's physical. with this president, though, in the same way his tax returns
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have become bizarre and contested territory and the white house can't be counted on anymore to do things like correctly smell t lly spell the foreign leaders and countries, today, this week they are misspelling the foreign names. they are still misspelling the names of foreign leaders while president trump is meeting them. you never had to worry whether or not there is processers in te house before. will we ever expect these to be spelled right? even the president's annual physical has become weird and fantastic and we should have known that was going to happen when his release of medical information as a candidate veered off immediately into very strange territory. we should have known that weirdness would persist when his first physical as a president ended up making a celebrity of the then white house physician but not in a good way. trump tried to nominate him to
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his cabinet. that collapsed under a cloud of all sorts of unexpected allegations about the white house physician. he is now the subject of an on going inspector general investigation at the defense department. so now there is a new white house physician and this one started off weirdly, too, when it comes to the president's physical, the president had his exam last week and the white house thereafter put out a statement giving a preliminary assessment from the new white house doctor in which he proclaimed happiness about the president's very good health. quote, i am happy to announce the president of the united states is in very good health and i anticipate he will remain so for the duration of his presidency, and beyond. i mean, just as a scientific matter, doctor, you don't know how long his presidency is going to be. he's in his 70s and taking coei
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medications and maybe more than six years from now this guy will be in very good health. you can confidently state it? it's the sort of thing that doctors don't say under normal circumstances, so why are they saying that when it comes to this president? did somebody ask you to say that, doctor? well, now today we have the full readout from the president's physical on the president's health and again, it's just a little weird. quote, with the consent of the president, i release the following health information and we do get basic numbers according to the readout from the white house, the president gained a few pounds from last year. his cholesterol ticked down but medication ticked up. his heart rate is up a tick. and this is not the most important thing in the world but i will draw your attention to this assertion here, height 6'3". this was also the president's according to last year's physical. 75 inches.
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6'3". as a value, it doesn't matter how tall the president is. but for the record, for the history books, right? it should some day be remembered that even that is another norm broken. even that is another weird little pointless lie that we've all been told to believe about this president because the president may be 6'3" in his mind but not 6'3" in his body. and it shouldn't matter. [ laughter ] >> exempt for the fact they are telling us that he is and no, i haven't measured the president personally but you can see him in pictures standing next to other people whose measurements have been taken. for example mark sanchez is a quarterback in the nfl and he's 6'2". here is president trump with mark sanchez. mark sanchez in the picture clearly taller than the president. if sanchez is 6'2", a person who is 6'3" standing next to him would not be shorter than mark
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sanchez. here is a gentleman that is 6'2". here he is standing shoulder to shoulder with president trump. he's 6'2", he's taller than president trump, which means donald trump is not 6'3". here is justin trudeau, the prime minister of canada. president trump is not a short man. he's not like danny devito but shorter than justin trudeau that is 6'2", which means president trump is not 6'3". here is president trump with barack obama who is 6'1".5 according to his last presidential physical back when presidential physicals weren't weird and they weren't -- back when they were normal occurrences. president trump and president obama as you can see are very close in height, president obama is a little taller than president trump as you can see in multiple images from multiple angles. if you would like to see what it looked like if donald trump was 6'3", here he is standing next
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to a man who is 6'3" whose name is jeb bush. president trump is considerably shorter than jeb bush because jeb bush is 6'3" and president trump is not and who cares how tall president trump is? who cares how tall any president is? but in our lives as american citizens in this time on earth, this will be one of the weird pointless vain little lies we're expected to, i don't know, agree with or agree to let go. we're expected to believe it, maybe. we're expected to not mind it when it comes to this president, even though it's not true. with elements of the federal government, like the white house physician office, you don't expect them to lie at the president for no good reason. in the case of the president's physical, if they are lying about his height, does that call into question that they may be lying about other things? that may potentially be more material with the president's
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fitness and life expectancy. how tall he is doesn't have anything to do about how long he'll live. are they lying about the drugs he's on and dosing? we don't know. i mean, once they are lying about one thing, it's hard to trust them on anything and this is something we never had to worry about as citizens before. to be fair, we've seen this from the president himself and people that work to promote the president. a few weeks ago the blog went back to find the original source images for some stuff that the white house is putting out to promote trump on facebook and instagram. on the left side of your screen, you can see the original photo that was taken out president, him pointing and the right side of your screen, that's what the white house put out to promote the president's image and at first glance, it looks like they used the image to build that meme, that little meme but they didn't just do that, they had to tune it up so you can see in the
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change between the two images, first day gave him a little haircut. his hair was trump in the back of the neck so they tuned that up a little bit. fixed his hair. they also gave him a shoulder transplant and a whole new shoulder arm area that is more thin looking. maybe that's the kindness of the president's taylor making the rough images not distracting to have wider display but i mean, what explains this? they literally lengthened his finger. they aren't moving his hand. they are making the finger longer. so as to create a new public image for this president that what, for what purpose? gives us some sense of what the world would be like if we had a president who wore finger prosthetics? this is a weird kind of vanity. it's a weird kind of playing with reality but doesn't mean much when it comes from the
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president himself, when it comes from the white house promoting the president and comes from his reelection campaign will put up pictures of him looking like a super model but it is something different when it's the federal government of the united states of america which doesn't just work for the president personal personally. they work for us and serve a purpose but we'll annually be delivered an official government lie about how tall the president is. annually, they will lie to us and tell us he's a height he is not and this is dumb stuff, right? why do we have to think about this? it is kps betiring to know how contend with being lied to by our own government about things that are so petty you would never think to fact check them. but what's the alternative? i mean, should we just like let
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them say whatever they think is true. doesn't matter on small stuff, big stuff, we don't know. letting the truth go seems like a bad slippery step at the top of a steep hill. looking at the images of trump and jeb bush is a good reminder where we were at in 2016 when it was not clear that donald trump would become the nominee of his party, let alone president. and the republican presidential field was so gigantic, you might remember -- excuse me, the debates on the republican side were a logistic nightmare. so many podiums in the united states. in the republican presidential primary in 2016 when they had anywhere between 15 to 20 candidates, maybe more, depending how you counted, they held a dozen debates. for the first seven of those 12
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debates, they held a main debate and an under card so it was like the adult main candidates in prime time, the adults table but before that not in prime time a kids' table for candidates maybe not impressive enough by one measure or another to make it into the main event. this was a very awkward division from the very beginning. literally from the first one the network is showing the under card debate, they panned out wide to show this image of this room in which the under card kids' table candidate was about to start debate income front of no one. for the first debate, they didn't invite an audience to watch the candidates, which was both an insult to them and also i think made the candidates look ridiculous on tv. the first debate had seven candidates in that embarrassing under card debate and ten candidates on the main stage later that night. the one after that they had 11 candidates on the main stage and four candidates on the kids'
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table debate, the under card. by the time they got to mid january, the saddest under card debate had three people at it. that was the kids table debate with carly and by the eighth, enough people dropped out to do a single event with seven candidates. that was still big enough, though, and enough of a pileup that that one is the one where they had a severe logistic confusion moment how to get all seven candidates on the stage. >> let's welcome the candidates for the republican conomination for president. lieutenant governor chris christie. [ applause
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>> and lastly, we welcome back to the debate stage donald trum trump. >> can i introduce -- >> yes, yes, we'll introduce ohio governor john casey. >> and that was when they had finally whittled it down to still seven candidates. that was when things were supposed to get more simple. at least they didn't have two different debates but a huge pileup. easy to screw things up. the footage is helpful for some stuff like seeing donald trump standing next to jeb bush, oh, look, jeb bush is taller, trump is not 6'3" but a good reminder how difficult the republican party had it when they tried to organize their primary in 2016 and when they specifically tried to organize the debates in the huge field of candidates that
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the republicans had running in 2016. i mean, with that under card plan it was not only embarrassing to the candidates involved but difficult to to o produce and had to keep tweaking candidates to try to keep certain candidates in the field who they didn't want off the stage entirely but otherwise might have dropped out, i mean, it was a process not perceived to be fair and didn't do anybody favors. well, this year the democratic party is facing a similar logistic l problem because there are ten democratic candidates that declared running and certainly some are bigger but all of them deserve a shot. by the time everyone is done declaring their interest in the race, the party could top the 17 mayjor candidates that tried to cram in in 2016 to no good effect. well, now, as of tonight, the democratic party has announced how they are going to try to handle their huge field of candidates without making some of mistakes the republicans did
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in 2016. the chairman of the democratic party tom perez had to make a lot of hard decisions to come up with how the party will handle their field of candidates tonight. he's here to make announcements next. stay with us. make announcement next ay with us with expedia, i saved when i added a hotel to our flight. so even when she grows up, she'll never outgrow the memory of our adventure. unlock savings when you add select hotels to your existing trip. only with expedia. select hotels to your existing trip.
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no, we do not know who all is going to run for the president on the democratic side including some of the biggest names still reportedly muddilli the choice. joe biden is certainly keeping the question alive. attorney general eric holder gave a campaign style speech this week in iowa when he spoke with reporters after the speech. he did not say he was running but he left a lot of observers with the impression that he very well may. those names of course on top of the full size choir of democratic u.s. senators who are already runs and at least one member of the house and at least one other former obama cabinet official and at least one mayor and there will be more of all of those kinds of democrats and probably some others besides, this will be a big crowd. don't the democratic party announced the first remembdebat
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year will be held in june and going to be hosted by us. by msnbc and nbc and telemundo. details to come. we have a lot of brand-new information from the democratic party how they are going to try to organize a fair and tough debate schedule for what is shaping up to be a gigantic field. as of today, the democratic party tells us that they have decided to make room on the debate stage for up to 20 candidates. because 20 is too many people to have on any one stage for a debate depending on the size of the field overall, the democrats say that the democratic debates may be broken down into two heats, basically, to occur on two nights. you'd have the first heat say on a monday and then the second heat the next day on a tuesday. unlike the republicans in 2016, these heats will not be divided into one marijuana event and one under card, one adult table and one kid table, instead with the
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democrats say they will divide the candidates randomly between the two nights. random drawings, that will be fun and this is interesting and substantive in terms of democratic party priorities to qualify for making it onto the debate stage at all, for being one of the 20, right? the threshold for inclusion is interesting. it has two components. first is that you got to hit a polling threshold in three polls that are either national or in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina or nevada. and you've got to hit a grass roots fundraising threshold. this is new and interesting. this is what they are telling us about the grass roots fundraising method you have to display and show you can do this. quote, candidates may qualify for the debate by demonstrating that the campaign has received donations from at least 65,000 unique donors. and a minimum of 200 unique donors per state in at least 20
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u.s. states. oh, so you need 200 per state in 20 states and 65,000 nationwide. no system is perfect, no political competition is perfectly fair but this is the democrats hard fought best effort for how they are going to try to give their nominating process the best shot at picking their best candidate. joining us is chairman of the democratic national committee. thank you for being here. >> always a pleasure to be with you, rachel. >> thank you for picking us to do the first debate. we're super excited about that for june. >> i'll tell ya, it will be unprecedent unprecedented. i'm excited. we never had a debate for nbc, msnbc, telemundo, if someone wants to watch it live stream, that will be free, as well and having consecutive nights is going to enable the candidates to put their best food forward. this is what it's all about. it's about giving the candidates a stage to give their vision of
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america, and the thing about our thresholds is we've never had a grass roots threshold before and i think it's really important. we look who won in 2008, what was the key to barack obama's success? it was mobilizing the grass roots. and so you have two pathways to the remembdebate stage. you have the polling. and if you don't make it on the polling, the alternative pathway is what we've outlined with grass roots. we didn't come up with that out of thin air. we looked at the public campaign finance laws on the books for decades and consulted with basically the grass roots fundraising center of the de democratic echo system and feel very comfortable that the gross roots threshold, it's not a layup by any means but not a
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full koucourt shot. it's something that will require hard work and what it will do is incentivize candidates to run grass roots campaigns because i believe we're at our best when we're connecting with people. that's how we won in 2018 and frankly how barack obama won in 2008 and exactly what i think this will incentivize and really again, we've done so many things throughout the process to make sure that we are bringing power back to our grass roots, whether it was our reforms or primaries or caucuses of last year superdelegate and and i think this is going to result in unprecedented viewership and it's going to result in engagement of grass roots and like before.
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>> in terms of the large field of democratic candidates right now, you have floated this idea of you're proposing idea of successive nights and i poked at the republicans a bit in the intro to the show because they had this sort of adults table, kids' table, the main debate and almost made the debate division between the stages when they had a lot of candidates. how is your idea of successive debate nights different than the difficult process? >> there is no under card. that is the biggest difference. if we have a round number of 16 350e people who might meet the threshold. some might meet the polling and gross roots and some might meet it both ways. and that's even better if they end up doing that. what we will do again having random selection is again
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another measure on our part and for these first two debates to demonstrate we're trying to give folks a fair shake. that is not a problem. sit a remarkable tribute to the depth of the field. i've had the pleasure of working with three quarters of the folks that may end up being on the debate stage. they are spectacular people. we want to make sure these debates give them an opportunity to talk about issues. our candidates won't talk about hand size but health care. i'm confident that the questioners from msnbc and nbc and telemundo will give them that opportunity. i love what we're talking about. we're talking about health care and how to address climate change. they are denying climate change and when people see the depth of our field, they see and it's
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important. if we have 16 candidates, 15 aren't going to make it. we need to make them feel like their candidate got a fair shake. that's how we sprint across the finish line next july at the democratic convention and how we win in november of 2020. this is the best strategy in our judgment to make sure we're putting our best foot forward to defeat donald trump. that's what it's all about. >> democratic party chairman tom perez. thank you for your time. i know you're having to invent the wheel to do this but thanks for helping us understand. much appreciated. >> quite a pleasure to be with you. >> chairman there referencing that republicans talking about donald trump's hand size during the debate. honestly even at that nobody dissipated they were talking about the hand size issue and we
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would be talking about it in the presidency of that candidate that ultimately made it to the presidency because he's artificially augmenting hand size in his photos as president because he's still stuck on that issue. all right. much more to get to tonight. stay with us. t.l righ much more to get to tonight. stay with us she's watching too,g [indistinct conversation] [friend] i've never seen that before. ♪ ♪ i have... ♪
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a one-year anniversary of another manifestation of gun violence in america. that's a national emergency. why don't you declare that emergency, mr. president? i wish you would. but a democratic president can do that, democratic president can declare emergencies, as well. so the president that the president is setting here is something that schulhould be me with great dismay by the republicans. >> house speaker nancy pelosi warning republican colleagues, hey, be careful what you wish for if you get behind the president's expected national emergency decoloration, to try to build himself a wall between the united states and mexico. it remains to be seen how much unease and dismay republicans may have if the president is really going to go through with this. a lot of republicans said they don't want president trump to declare an emergency. that said, congressional republicans have not been profiled or encouraged when this president does something they previously claimed to be dopposd
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to. the president will have a real problem when it comes to democrats unlike the first two years, democrats hold actual power in washington so speaker pelosi today said she may challenge an emergency decoloration, from trump in court. there may be a resolution in congress to block the president's emergency decoloration, if pelosi passed that in the house, it would force a vote on that same resolution in the senate and because the republicans are divided on this idea of a national emergency stunt for the wall, such a resolution might actually pass the senate, too, which would have the effect of blocking the president's emergency decoloration. even more immediately, if the emergency decoloration, is supposed to give the president the ability to take money from somewhere without congress so he could use that money to build the wall, well, it's important to know the money wouldn't just becoming from thin air and somewhere in the abstract, if the president does try to use this decoloration, this morning
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decoloration, that one could come from the u.s. military budget. that's the machine the president would be claiming he can appropriate under a decoloration, and defense department. specifically, there is talk that the president without get money designated for army corps of engineers like flood controls in california and hurricane recovery in puerto rico. that's the kind of -- those are the places from which the president expects to get his money. in our new political reality, though, not so fast. not just nancy pelosi. there is a democrat in charge of overseeing exactly that money that the president has his eyes on appropriating and that democrat suddenly just become very, very powerful on this national issue and this confrontation with the president and that democrat joins us next. stay with us. that democrat join. stay with us
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the government from shutting down tomorrow. we're told to expect the president to sign the bill but will declare a national emergency to try to runaround congress and just take the funds he needs to build a border wall, maybe from the money that congress has appropriated to the military for other purposes or from money congress appropriated for disaster relief. in light of the news today, it's hard not to wonder whether democratic congressman has a wrestle ball. he introduced legislation that would block president trump from raiding funds otherwise put aside for disaster relief. the kind of relief that his state, california relies on to fight wildfires and floods that was two days ago. today congressman doubled down saying quote, i introduced legislation this week in anticipation of this news that would prevent the president from doing this. i am going to fight like hell for it. joining us now is congressman john garamendi from the great state of california.
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thank you for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> what do you understand about the potentials? >> he better take a few minutes. i know he doesn't read but perhaps somebody can read article one of the constitution, the power of appropriation lies with congress, if he tries to do this, he's basically establishing an imperil president, his majesty. bottom line, we won't let it happen. yes, there is a piece of legislation i have in that would require his signature so we may not get there but we'll make a statement. we also have the opportunity to sue on several courses, not just the question of the authority of the president to do this under the constitution but also where is the emergency? is the emergency a bunch of kids and mothers coming to the border to cross legally? is that the emergency? i don't think so. and finally, the border crossings are down to the lowest
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they have ever been since 1950. so the emergency issue is not there. and there is tomorrow. and there is the day after tomorrow. the president is going to submit his budget. we'rebudget. we're going to take that under advisement, and i will tell you if he were to do an emergency and rip off fundamental projects that protect the citizens in my communities and in puerto rico and other parts of this nation, he will pay a price ongoing into the future because we do have ultimately the power of the purse >> if there is to be some sort of formal effort in the congress to try to block the president from declaring this emergency, if there is some sort of resolution under the emergency act that would allow congress to do this, is that the sort of thing you would expect republican support on or do you think this would be another issue which republicans sort of put aside their concerns and decided to stand with the president? >> i think it depends on exactly what the president does.
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if the president takes $140 million away from the improvement for earthquake safety on lake isabella, which is on the 16 miles upstream from a community called bakersfield, we might see kevin mccarthy interested in repealing the authority of the president. it's local around the nation. right now we believe the president is going to lead the republicans alone, go after democratic districts, go after puerto rico, which he's done plenty of effort to try to harm or at least not to help folks in those communities already. he's threatened, for example, in the paradise fire to force fema not to help the victims of the fire. fortunately he didn't carry through because there was pushback by all of us. so i think there's going to be a lot of screaming if he were to do it. i'm sure that the issue would come. i'm not sure how speaker pelosi would want to amusmove it but clearly the opportunity of
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passing a resolution through the house is there. we also know there's lawsuits. i talked to ed becerra, the attorney general in california. he could add one more lawsuit to the long number he already has and he would have standing because california would be harmed. >> do you expect, sir, briefly if this resolution issue -- sorry, if the emergency declaration issue isn't settled, if the president has to pause that because of what he's hearing from you and others tonight in terms of how this might go, knowing it would be held up in court, do you think he will sign the bill anyway to keep the government zpuntd avert a shutdown tomorrow even if the emergency matter isn't settled tonight? >> i just he should. he'll take a look at the vote that occurred in the senate. was that a veto number well over 83 votes in the senate for it. so there could be a veto to override, it could come close to the house and we would override the veto and go forward. this has leaves him the option of doing the emergency declaration. but the bottom line is he shouldn't do it n. just three weeks he's going to issue his
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budget. if he thinks the border wall is necessary, put the justifications, where, how, what it's going to look like and cost. and go through the normal process that's a worked very well for this country for over 200 years. that's the way the institution says it must be done. >> congressman john garamendi of california. sir, thank you so much for being here tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. >> we'll be right back lower my. lower my. because my body can still make its own insulin. and i take trulicity once a week to activate my body to release it, like it's supposed to. trulicity is not insulin. it starts acting in my body from the first dose and continues to work when i need it, 24/7. trulicity is an injection to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. don't use it as the first medicine to treat diabetes, or if you have type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take trulicity if you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer, you're allergic to trulicity, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2.
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knowing much about it. it involves a mystery company owned by a mystery foreign country that's refusing to imply wi -- comply with a subpoena. one big thing we learned from what was unsealed today is that the mystery foreign country involved in this case is not trying to keep itself secret. the mystery company and the mystery foreign country, they apparently don't mind if we know who they are. quote, appellant, the witness here, appears to have no interest in seeking to preserve the secrecy of its identity. if that's accurate, that's interesting, we still don't know who the mystery company or country is that owns them, but now we know it's the prosecutors, it's mueller and the special counsel's office who think those things need to be kept secret from all of us, while the country itself doesn't mind if we knew. why would that be?
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