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that's going to wrap up this hour of msnbc live. i'll see you tomorrow on "today." andrea mitchell reports. looking forward to jon stewart. >> me, too. right now on andrea mitchell reports. donald trump leaving this hour for vietnam and his second summit for kim jong-un. is the president too eager to claim success? his own intelligence officials worry he might give away the store. >> i think we'll have a very tremendous summit. we want peace, nuclearization, and i think we'll have a country that will set a lot of records for speed in terms of an economy. >> the point card, robert mueller will not release his report while the president is at that summit in vietnam, but democrats are already getting ready, planning their strategy if the attorney general tries to keep the mueller report secret. >> we will obviously subpoena the report. we will bring bob mueller in to testify before congress. we will take it to court if
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necessary. and fighting for the heroes. jon stewart leads the fight for 9/11 first responders on capitol hill again as they have to again permanent compensation for injured survivors all these years later as jon stewart has been advocating for years. >> i can't stress this enough. why is it incumbent upon our first responders to have to consistently push to get the benefits that are coming to them purely for their acts of valor in a wartime situation? this is insanity. ♪ ♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. president trump is departing this hour for hanoi and his second high-stakes meeting with kim jong-un kicking off a critical week for the trump precedence owe all fronts as kim is half way through a 2,000-mile
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train ride across china to vietnam, the president is tweeting this morning with complete denuclearization, north korea will rapidly become an economic powerhouse because of it. chairm chairman kim will make a wise decision. even as he is taking off today the president's trip could be overshadowed by three days of testimony this week including public testimony wednesday by trump's former lawyer and fixer michael cohen. it is a spectacle that could shed now light on questions of possible obstruction and collusion going back years. nbc white house correspondent jeff bennett joins me now. jeff, let's talk about what the president is going to be dealing with. he's going to be en route to vietnam with his first day of testimony and he'll be arriving 24 hours from now and you will have michael cohen appearing on what is going to be a mob scene on capitol hill. >> reporter: that's right, andrea. look, when michael cohen was sentenced to three years in prison he apologized to the
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federal judge and said he felt compelled to cover up for his former boss' dirty deeds. come wednesday we'll get a better sense of what those dirty deeds were. michael cohen has already implicated the president in that illegal campaign finance violation, that hush money that was paid out to the two women who claimed to have had affairs with mr. trump in the lead-up to the 2016 election, but michael cohen also has a story to tell about the business practices of the trump family business. he has that marathon appearance set this coming week and three appearances on capitol hill, one at least publicly before the house oversight committee on wednesday and what's interesting about it is we don't expect him to be asked any questions directly related to the russia investigation in that public appearance. certainly, he'll be asked about those private appearances before the senate oversight and senate intelligence committee hearing and you're right, andrea, the president will have to contend with that as he sits down with kim for the second summit.
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>> and of course, house intelligence, ed. the first thing they want to know from him is they'll re-ask the questions that he acknowledged lying about and get the correct answers and take it from there and then go forward. those will be private sessions and certainly you can expect there will be some leaks and the public session on wednesday will be quite a twitter force. at the same time the president going to hanoi, there is some concern especially given recent statements when tweets and also what he said back in singapore that he's going to be overselling that he's too eager for a victory. >> that's right and that's that reporting from our colleagues carol lee and courtney. u.s. officials and north korean experts are still concerned that the president will be so intent on emerging from this summit victorious that he will offer concessions without having anything in return to show for it. in the tweet that you mentioned in the open to the show you see the president there dangling this carrot and perhaps easing
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economic sanctions on north korea. we know that is kim jong-un's number one goal to get relief from the sanctions that have crippled north korea's economy. these sanctions curb everything from north korea's ability to import oil and to his ability to import laptops. we don't know yet whether or not the president will put that on the table, but i will say, though, that i think it's interesting how measured he has been in terms of setting expectations. the president, as we know, has a pension for hyperbole, he has a pension for preemptively declaring victory before these kinds of summits, but in this go round he's saying the most that he can hope for at this point is to improve upon the progress that he and kim made in the first summit back in singapore. the white house, the president i think are all too aware of the gaps that remain between u.s. and north korean officials as it relates to agreeing on some sort of denuclearization. >> well, and in fact, secretary pompeo has been the point person
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on all of this. was yesterday saying that the president -- was trying to say that the president never said that kim promised to denuclearize after singapore and claiming, you know, victory after singapore which the president did. those were his words and they were trying to deny the reality of what happened after singapore, and it is far and if he can have a one-on-one meeting that he did with vladimir putin. you know that kim will be very, very well prepared for this. the question is what does president trump do going into the critical meetings and i know you will be watching, jeff, as will i from here. joining me now, bob bower, former white house counsel to president obama and the former district attorney for lobby affairs advocating for the importance of the special council. first, as former white house counsel, if you were counsel to the president and i know this is
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a big stretch, but if you were the counsel to the white house today mr. donald trump you have michael cohen, his former lawyer who is the lawyer involved in the trump organization for all those years, what are the perils going into the testimonies this week? >> cohen looks like he will be testifying across a broad range of issues about the finances of the trump organization and the hush money payments and the very critical payment which is who in the white house saw the testimony that he gave which was false to congress about the time period during which the president negotiated with the russians the moscow project that never came to fruition. he's been involved in so many different aspects of the president's professional, political and personal life that obviously, to have this lawyer testify publicly, but also on three different occasions on capitol hill this coming week would have to be a source of the white house counsel of not
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insignificant concern and would lead the white house counsel to make sure precisely what he was potentially facing. >> and elliott, here, the white house counsel may not even know fully what to expect. he may not have full transparency into the dealings -- the off the book dealings of the trump organization. >> personal dealings going back three decades. going back after all of the real estate deals and the hush money payments before they're more. think about the trump family foundation so what we're seeing here is the intersection of trump the man, trump the family, trump the business and ultimately trump the inauguration, campaign and presidency, and the folks in the white house may not know about all of this because given how far back it goes and how deep these ties are. as i said before, ink michael cohen poses a far greater reputational risk to the president than even robert mueller does right now given all of the information he has about the president and the fact that he's already said it was my job to cover up and lie for the
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president. so we'll see. >> talking about insurance deals and payments, i mean, possible things that the trump organization has done in a variety of arenas. when we think about this, bob bower, the president has said in july of 2017 in "the new york times" there was a red line if robert mueller tried to get into his personal finances whether it was loans and other dealings that that would be where he would go after the special counsel. so it's michael cohen who knows about the things that happened crossing that red line. >> as you know, yes. as you know, the president is missing the mark there because robert mueller is not the one who will necessarily be picking up on all of these investigative threats and there are investigations and other jurisdictions state as well as federal investigations that will be looking at questions like the activities of the foundation and the financing of the trump foundation -- excuse me, of the trump organization. so for all of those reasons and he can train and hire robert mueller, but robert mueller is not the only person with the
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position with the position to cause him legal troubles that he needs to worry about. >> the other question is what happened to the mueller report? bob barr in confirmation hearings was very precise that he would follow the guidance and what the regulations require and the regulations only require him to report that there is a report, to report to congress if there had been declarations and prosecutions. you know the deal better than i do, bob and you're both the attorneys here. so how effective can adam schiff and others be as house democrats try to get the results by them subpoenaing mueller and the report. first to you, bob. >> the congress can be very effective. congressman schiff has said we'll be able to go to the kwou courts as well as subpoena mule tore testify and subpoena for withholding and you are right he does not have a regulation urn the congress and the report he
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submit which is is submitted to the attorney general is confidential and the regulation seems to suggest that all of this will be in some way ill defined and fairly limited and the reports mr. barr makes subsequently very brief. however, again, going with what the white house counsel would tell the president and in the end the administration confides very hard, but it will get the material that it needs. >> elliott, i think you've worked on the hill and you know the broad reach of the majority now that the democrats do have the majority and there's precedent for getting this information out and for instance, kenneth starr back in the 1990s. different statute, but there's still a tradition of that special counsel or independent counsel testifying before congress, but more recently jim comey with the clinton investigation congress got in various ways, number one, comey testified. number two, all of the fbi 302s and the investigative documents were made public and comey testified to congress privately or spoke to members of congress
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privately. so getting the information out about these high-profile investigations, there's certainly -- it's happened before and given the high public interest in this, there's no question and again, as bob said the hammer the congress has they can subpoena and force it to happen. so i would be shocked if this information didn't come out for any number of reasons and given that we've seen it before. >> and bob, to elliott's point, the 302s, those investigate of report, it was the republicans who demanded those from the investigators from comey and others, so that precedent was established by the republicans who would be trying the hardest to try to protect the president from the mueller findings. >> the comey experience creates a really significant problem for the republican talking points for sure, but at the end of the day whether there was a norm to follow and ultimately congress has the constitutional authority and the legal avenue to obtain this material.
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>> thanks so much, bob bower, elliott williams and both of counsel to us and coming up against the wall, president trump telling the nation's governors more than 200 miles of border wall will be under construction soon. really? i'll speak to jay insly who is also a possible 2020 entrant. we'll talk to him about that. stay with us next on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. . ...gone noseblind to. and try febreze unstopables for fabric. with up to twice the fresh scent power, you'll want to try it... ...again and again and maybe just one more time. indulge in irresistible freshness. febreze unstopables. breathe happy.
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i'm going to call it a wall. they'd like me to call it a barrier. it's a big, powerful, beautiful wall that you can see through it. it is very important to be able to see through it. if you don't have it you will not have borders and you will not have a country pretty soon. i expect 350 miles built in the very near future. >> president trump defending his emergency border wall today while meeting with the nation's governors and the 16 states are about to challenge the emergency order and they already have in court. joining me now is the democratic governor of washington state jay insly, thank you very much. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon to you. tell me about this meeting with the president today and he's described it as a wail, a fence, barriers and saying it is now going to be under construction and what did you take from your meeting today? >> nothing productive. the president is still living in this never never land and feeding us a bunch of baloney.
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the vanity project of his and it's not a national emergency. it's a political emergency for him meaning his failures and this has been rejected by both parties. that's the thing that is interesting. to me, there has been a bipartisan rejection of this waste of money. we could be spending these billions of dollars educating kids. we do have a national emergency in climate change, and we've talked about today with governors about the fact that we do have real emergencies in our states with forest fires and floods and he continues to do nothing about. so we are hopeful the republicans will stand up to the senate, if not the supreme court, and our state will be suing him the moment he tries to take money out of our state. >> other states have already sued and is there a reason why you're waiting to see what happens with your own money? >> yes. we have a really good track record of beating donald trump and that's because we see it the
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right moment and our lawyers are telling us the right moment is the moment that the president purports to try to take money out of our state and hurts our economy. so that complaint's already drafted and we're ready to push the green button. if the republicans turn tail -- the republicans took an oath to the constitution not to donald trump. if they follow all of their language over the last ten years they'll vote to rescind this exercise and political vanity. i hope they do, but if not, we need the supreme court to stand up for fundamental american democracy. >> you've been an advocate on climate issues for years and decades, really. the white house is convening a panel to study whether climate change is real. is that the way you read it? >> well, unfortunately, that seems to be the case, i brought our concerns through the epa administrator and acting administrator yesterday and of course, they ignored the science and they ignored the clear
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consensus and the clear recognition by donald trump's own government has found that this is really an exist earn threat to the security and safety and health of our country. i talked to acting director bernard this morning and asked him about this, and i said this seems to be an insane waste of money to try to ignore the thousands of scientists that work for your own administration and he said well, it's not a final decision yet. that smells fishy to me that they actually are trying to again subvert. look, every time it snows donald trump tweets that climate change doesn't exist. what an ignorant position. it seems to me that we need a president of the most intellectually proficient scientific history and to follow pure science and understand the difference between weather and climate and we have a president that will lead us through a mission statement to defeat
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climate change and hope that comes sooner rather than later. >> i know you've been to nevada and new hampshire. you're considering a run. why not just announce it today, governor? could you do it? >> i think you'll see some announcement shortly about our intentions, and i do believe this moment is right. the american people understand that the fires that burned down paradise, california, the floods, it's time for action. we can build an economy around clean energy. i'm an optimist by nature and america is an optimist nation and we have to start that effort now. where do you fit given how many senators and others, other governors, former governors like hickenlooper thinking of coming in, and mccallive. where do you fit in the spectrum of this diverse group of candidates already declared, a lot of women, people of color? >> i think it's great. we have a diverse field. i was proud to get -- have the most women in our cadre of
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gubernatorial candidates as chair of the dga this year. where i fit in is i would say that i have a unique position of having a vision and willingness to say that climate change and our mission to defeat it has to be the number one priority for the next administration. this has to be the organizing principle of the united states so we can make clean energy and build the millions of jobs and i would have the person with the executive experience that has actually got that job done. america's ready for this. i've traveled to three states and they're being hammered by climate change. iowa, when i was there, farmers couldn't get out on the field because it was so wet so the country is ready for an optimistic president. i just may be able to suit that purpose. >> jay inslee, governor, thank you so much and with you're ready to announce come on back. >> i'll be there. >> thank you. >> and coming up, the first responders, jon stewart leading
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a group of 9/11 first responders who are at risk of losing most of the government funding for their health care. how is this happening? join jon stewart, john field and others advocating for some permanent solution. stay with us here on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. . want preventive screenings for things like
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there is no bill more worthy and solid than the one for 9/11 first responders permanent health care, fully funded with the victims compensation fund. these guys should never have to come down here again. >> jon stewart and fellow advocates have been fighting for years to fully compensate 9/11 first responders for a variety of serious health issues including cancers resulting from their heroic acts in those terrible days and months and the months after ward during the cleanup, but now the september 11th victim compensation fund is running out of money and the justice department is threatening to slash funding even further on capitol hill today. lawmakers and first responders are going to be rallying to fund health care for all of the 9/11 responders and survivors who are exposed to deadly toxins at ground zero at the pentagon and
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shanksville, pennsylvania, and the bipartisan bill entitled never forget the heroes act is this afternoon. joining me is jon stewart and ne upon 9/11 advocate and congress mid-cap jerry nadler with me and carolyn maloney both from new york who are part of the coalition introducing this legislation and peter king who hoped to be with us today was delayed due to the high wind, bad weather delaying him, but we will be talking to him, as well. jon stewart and john seal. first to jon stewart, what is your message today? >> i think the message today and each time has been let's get this done. let's get it done with some urgency and let's not make any of these families grieving from losing a firefighter or a first responder or trade unionist or just a survivor, let's get them the proper funding that is
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coming to them and let's do it in a way that doesn't bring more stress and more damage to difficult road that they've already gone through. >> jon stewart, when you created this foundation and started this advocacy, did you think that all these years later you would still be fighting for funds? >> yes. [ laughter ] >> no, but -- no offense to carolyn and jerry who i love dearly and senator gillibrand and schumer and everybody else has been supportive of our champions. we have dealt with two chambers that are dysfunctional for a decade and a half. i've been doing this for 15 years. i've had more time on the hill than some members of congress. this is my 269th trip to d.c., and it's an insult that they keep continuing to put a date, an arbitrary date on legislation, five years here, five years there. everybody knows these cancers
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and respiratory illnesses have different latency periods. i mean, come on. it's insuling. we're sick and dying, but we're not stupid and congress has something tangible to work with. there was a deadline. there was a policy that went into effect and now congress can either do the right thing or they can do the wrong thing and if they do the wrong thing we're going to expose them and we'll make them miserable until we get this passed. we don't want to come back here no more. we don't like coming here. we don't like many of the people here and we want to be left alone. i want to tell my guys and women uniformed and non-uniformed to put the sword down, put up their rakes and watch something grow and be with their loved ones. these men and women are sick and dying and they're walking the halls of congress with us today and shame on congress for making us do that over and over again. we keep talking about a wall that we want to keep a wall to keep the bad people out, but let's not forget what's on the inside of this wall which is the good people and the american people that are suffering 18 years later. many americans have moved on
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since 9/11, but for those affected by 9/11 this is the longest day in the history of days and we're still suffering. >> you know, i'm preaching to the choir here, congress members. carol maloney as john said we're sick and dying, but we're not stupid. 18 years later? >> we have 85 members of congress already on our bill that introduced the never forget the heroes act to restore any funding that's been cut and make the victims compensation fund permanent as we have the health care tomorrow so that the heros and survivors have the health care and support they so justly deserve. we will not stop until we pass this. i am confident that we'll be able to and now the chairman of the judiciary committee that will be overseeing this will be my colleague and good friend jerry nadler. >> mr. chairman, you've got power now and you've got some clout and there's no way this
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isn't getting to the house. what about in the republican senate? >> that remains to be seen. i'm encouraging a couple of senators and core gardner and a couple of others. it's been a long road. it took us seven years to pass the bill in 2003 when we started to 2010 and the health program and the victims compensation fund program for five years knowing perfectly well that was inadequate. five years later we were able to extend the health care program indefinitely and the victims compensation fund we just renewed for five years and it turns out it was inadequate funding and we have to do the last piece of the job and extend the victims compensation fund with adequate funding for 70 years. >> jon stewart, this is not a new fight for you. you've been in it since the beginning. i want to show you in 2010 with some of the first responders and then again with empty chairs
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five years later in 2015 from your program. let's listen to this. >> out of curiosity, where is everybody? >> it's you and i. five and a half years ago we did a show. 75% of the panel is no longer here. two of the people have illnesses and obviously by law i can't comment on how sick they are, and john devlin who sat at the last chair an operating engineer passed away since our show. >> jon stewart, you must be incredibly frustrated by what you've seen here in capitol hill. >> it's maddening because first of all, we're already late been they were aware -- and by the way, this problem occurred because the justice department is doing a really good job, the special pay master over at
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justice has been doing a really solid job in getting these claims credentialed and then processed, but it was clear from the very beginning that the funding was going to be inadequate and that they were going to have to extend it for the life of the first responders and survivors that lives through the 9/11 experience. so we keep getting hit by trains that we see coming miles away. they knew in october that the funding was going to be inadequate and that they were going to have to start slashing the funds for the claims. now they have 20,000 claims that will be cut, sometimes up to 70% for the widows and people that were lost in 9/11. it's so avoidable as to be farce, and if we can just get this done in a manner that, you know, it's ironic, first responders pride themselves on response time. it's the thing that they work on day in and day out so that the people and the communities that
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they serve are well served by their actions, and yet each and every time when they have a need our response is inadequate, slow and apathetic, and for this final chapter, for the last piece of this wouldn't it be amazing to do it in a way that honors the heroism and selflessness of those that gave so much during that time? that's all that john is asking for. that's all that anybody here is asking for and then they want to be left alone and that's it. >> you know, jon stewart, when you look at this, this is a rounding error on the federal budget. to make this permanent, to give these people the security of permanent funding for the rest of their lives, for their families -- >> it's a rounding error. >> at the very same time that they were sending out letters telling these people that the
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awards were going to be slashed by 70% the president stood in the rose garden and talked about how much money he had billions from china billions from mexico. i've got so much money from the dod i don't even know what to do with it and i might take a billion here and put it up against the wall at the billion here. at the very same time these people were being told hey, we're out of money. it's unconscionable. >> john field, yoeal, your reac that, as well? >> trust me there are a lot of things i want to say right now that i can't and while they coin this the never forget the heroes act, i have one better. this is the trilogy, our final stand and we will do whatever it takes to get this legislation passed. our zero tolerance policy is now in effect and we are not going to take no for an answer, and i'm -- i'm optimistic, and i'm always confident that we'll get this done, but i'd rather get it
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done clean than ugly. >> jerry nadler, you nwant to respond? >> i want to make one other comment because people don't remember this. we have two moral responsibilities to the first responders and survivors. one, because they were victims of an attack on the united states, not an attack on downtown manhattan. an attack on the united states and we should all bear that burden. second, because many, many of the people who are sick now who need help now would not be sick if the epa at the time, and the mayor at the time, mayor giuliani had not told them that the air was safe to breathe when we knew perfectly well that the air was not safe to breathe and these people worked under piles for three months without proper respiratory protection and that was a calamity and we have two separate moral obligations in order to meet them. >> and i would say also the number of cancers are increasing dramatically. a few years ago a fifth of the
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claims were cancer and now well over a third and growing, and we lost almost 3,000 people on 9/11, but the number who have died since will soon surpass that number and there are 20,000 people in the program and growing because the cancers you can enroll and you don't even know you're sick until much later so this is the responsibility of our country and 18 years is a long time and these families should not have to come back and jerry and i should not have to keep writing this bill and putting it in and fighting for it. >> john feal, i think i've been told that you've gone to 181 funerals of responders? >> yes, ma'am, and i paid for nine of them because they couldn't afford to bury their loved ones. >> i mean, jon stewart, our president is from new york city. he's spoken many say erroneously
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of his experience of ne9/11. what would you say to president trump? >> it's not about ideology and partisanship, this is about congress has a fiduciary responsibility to fund the programs that have been put into place to take care of the moral damage as jerry talked about and they need to do it urgently and cleanly and not use these men and women as a bargaining chip in a larger funding bill. they shouldn't put this in the transportation bill. they shouldn't put this into some other larger omnibus bill and then talk about how i'll give you that if you let me export shag carpeting. this has to stop. they're not pawns and they're not people to be played with. do the right thing and do it in a manner that respects the 18 years that they've suffered through this. >> yeah. amen. >> jon stewart, john feal, we can't thank you enough for what you're doing today. we'll be following the story. thank you again. >> thank you. >> thanks jerry nadler, carolyn maloney, as well.
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hit on your president. pbs news and jonathan post opinion writer and both are thankfully msnbc contributors. ramish, first to you, your reaction you're right there at the white house where the president is taking shots at spike lee. >> i think the oscars is really a moment to look at the power of diversity and look at the complicated issue that surrounds racism and politics going forward and spike lee didn't mention the president by name, and i think the president is reacting to spike lee talking about the fact that of course, 2020 is around the corner and love versus hate means that he is going to be supporting someone running against president trump. there was a presenter that right before "roma" said borders and walls is not something we should have in this country and diversity and immigration is really the power of this country. so i think what you had was the president feeling looking at the oscars and feeling attacked by the speeches that night.
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taking it out on spike lee because of course, spike lee is someone that will be very outspoken in 2020. he's going to be someone who takes a very strong stand. he's even in his own speech you'll have to go there because his movies and the person that he is at his heart is someone who is very much in opposition of president trump. >> in fact, jose andres was one of the presenters and it wasn't just the actors and actresses in their acceptance speeches. jose andres was one of the presenters speaking about immigration. >> right. that's what i thought was so terrific about this year's oscars is that you had a wide variety of people. it wasn't just hollywood navel gazing and it was people from around the country and around the world who were there to be a part of hollywood's big night and there were people who have, we know them through other lenses. jose andres, phenomenal restauranteur, beloved and we also know him through a political lens because of his
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battle with president trump and also what he did during the government shutdown, providing food to government workers. not that he was asked to, but he did it on his own. another thing that i loved about the oscars when you're talking about spike lee or jose andres or any of the people who mentioned things that were political in nature. they were all talking about bringing us back to where we were or where we thought we were, a country of humanity and love and openness, and which stands in stark contrast to where a lot of people think the country is now which is probably why the president did his knee-jerk tweet against spike lee, and it was also, it was not just people pontificating and giving political speeches out of the blue. it was organic coming from the movies that they were celebrating because of black panther and because of blackkklansman and because of roma. they related in many cases because of these issues. >> i agree.
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>> what the oscars was is what people hope the country will be going forward and what america can be and that is diversity and that is indigenous people and that is african-americans filling all sorts of roles and even a movie like netflix movie going in and chilling and here's a movie of what movie making can be and i think you also saw a lot of people who were unapologetically embracing the diversity of the night and there were sometimes when you see people not wanting to talk as much about diversity. in this case you really saw people on the forefront saying, you know what? i'm here because my grandmother put me here. i'm here because this person saw in me someone who could fill this role. i'm thinking about the women who won for black panther and the costumes and the production design. they were authentically talking about the fact that their own experiences, their own experiences allowed them to get to the oscars and allowed them to get the oscars and the freedom to express that. >> carter's speech on "black
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panther" regina king speaking about james baldwin, one of my childhood heroes as an author and when we talk about the diversity of the award winners, as well, was there also that moment, this, lady gaga, the moment of the oscars with lady gaga. >> which one are you talking about? >> i'm talking about "shallow," bradley cooper and the incredible performance and your reaction to that. >> incredible. i tweeted out, once it was over and i was trying to do it before, i said oh, my god, i think my tv just caught fire because there was so much heat between the two of them and when he started talking, the way they looked at each other and when she started singing it was intense and it was incredible and it was what made me feel that this year's oscars were unlike any that i at least i had watched in a long time. >> we hate to leave it there. >> i appreciate it.
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thank you, as well. coming up, growing unrest after a weekend of violent clashes, vice president mike pence meeting today with venezuela's opposition leader to discuss the next steps aimed at maduro. they're meeting with the lima group in latin america. stay with us right here on msnbc. absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. so i feel protected and pretty. always discreet boutique. you're smart,eat you already knew that. but it's also great for finding the perfect used car. you'll see what a fair price is and you can connect with a truecar certified dealer. now you're even smarter. this is truecar. even if you're doing everything right, inside, something can be wrong. preventive screenings can help. but if you're not showing any symptoms... insurance usually won't cover them. what then? call life line screening. we make checking for things like stroke and heart disease so quick, easy and affordable,
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tensions boiled over over the weekend with a number of reported deaths between venezuelan maduro supporters and protesters trying to deliver humanitarian aid into venezuela. vice-president mike pence is meeting with opposition leader juan guaido. tammy lightener was on a mission bringing aid and supplies. do you know if any of the aid got in? >> you know, andrea, the state department says a small amount of aid has made it into venezuela, but it's really unclear how much. in fact, two trucks carrying aid across the border were torched this weekend, prompting international outcry. and just a short while ago, vice-president mike pence met with interim president juan guaido and colombia's president ivan duke in colombia.
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and the vice-president had a very clear message. we are with you 100%, he said. now, pence spoke to the lima group and announced sanctions that will be imposed on four of venezuela's border state governors. all four are believed to have been involved in this weekend's violent clashes at the border. now, remember, 300 people were injured as protesters tried to move aid across the border through colombia and brazil. president nicolas maduro's soldiers responded with tear gas, rubber bullets and lethal force. pence also promised there will be more sanctions going forward and an additional $56 million in aid. but, andrea, there was no discussion of any type of military force to push that aid into venezuela. >> and, of course, that's been the threat out there. and there are some reports that the venezuelan opposition now wants the military to be used. we know that john bolton stayed back from a trip to south korea to plan the summit this weekend.
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thanks for being with us. follow us online on facebook and on twitter at mitchell reports. and here is ali velshi for "velshi & ruhle." >> andrea, thank you. have a good afternoon. i'm ali velshi. stephanie is off on jury duty. today is monday, february 25th, so let's get smarter. >> president trump heads to vietnam for his second meeting with kim jong-un. >> we're speaking loud and i think we can have a very good summit. i think we'll have a tremendous summit. twe we'll have denuclearization. >> why is this going to be different? >> he's going to do what he does best, negotiate with north korea. so sick of the experts dealing with north korea in 60 years. in 60 years you never got a meeting, you never even got in the room. >> the waiting game, a huge week ahead of the mueller