democrats. we built the hoover dam and put the man on the moon. >> let me have a final question -- >> let me say i agree with that. we did put the man on the moon and i appreciate that about the green new deal. that's my only point. >> let me say living through the 2008 primary about the mandate, barack obama was like no, you can't have the mandate and would be won the nomination. it matters more the consensus. thank you both. that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. >> thanks my friend. much appreciated. thanks to you at home for joining us. happy monday. john brennan will be joining us here in studio this hour. happy to have director brenham on the show tonight. he and 50 other former senior national security officials have just signed on to a statement that says in part quote we have lived and worked through national emergencies and we support the president's power to mobilize the executive branch to

respond quickly in a genuine national emergency. but under no plausible asse assessment of the evidence is there a national emergency today that entitled president trump to tap into funds appropriated for other purposes to build a wall at the southern border. to our knowledge, the president'spresident e president's assertion is unprecedented. this statement from former senior national security officials who have served both republican and democratic administrations, this decoloration, from them comes as congress prepares to vote on a resolution that would block the president's decoloration, of an emergency, which he is using to try to build his wall between the united states and mexico. one of the things we will be talking about tonight with john brennan and otherwise this hour is the fact that that congressional resolution is going to be brought up in the house of representatives tomorrow where it will definitely pass, and then republican senate leader mitch

mcconnell will not actually have the opportunity here to do his usual every day trick where he just doesn't allow things for a vote if the president doesn't want him to. and in this case, mitch mcconnell has no choice but to allow for a senate vote on this resolution blocking the president from declaring an emergency. i mean, we won't know for sure how it's going to go until that vote happens but it actually looks now like enough republican senators are peeling off from the white house on this issue that when mcconnell is forced to put this resolution on the floor, it looks like this thing is not just going to pass nancy pelosi's house of representatives but also going to pass mitch mcconnell's republican control senate, too. so again, we will have more on that over the course of this hour including with john brennan live here in studio coming up but that expected rebuke of this president, this rare instance of congress and what is expected to be a bipartisan fashion, you

know, getting up on their hind legs to block this president from doing something, that's a historic thing. we were in this eerie situation for six hours today when the president and vice president were out of the country at the same time, so it's a little weird these things are happening all at once. the president's trip to asia of course is for his next one on one summit with the dictator of north korea kim jong-un. he met the north korean leader in singapore. do you remember what the big surprise was from the summit trump had with kim jong-un? remember the one thing that happened? people were like wait, was that supposed to happen? where surprise, president trump announced that the u.s. would pull out of joint military exercises with the south korean armed forces. that the something the u.s. military and south korean military had been doing for decades but in singapore, president trump announced that the u.s. would stop doing those

exercises. and that announcement in singapore was a surprise at the time. it also just appeared to be sort of a gift, a unilateral concession for exchange which the president got nothing from them. you might have seen headlines in recent days as he heads off to the next summit that national security officials, trump white house officials are worried at this next meeting with kim jong-un trump might again blurt out a spontaneous one-sided concession. he might sort of give away the store again in exchange for nothing. people have worked on these summits in the past are expressing concerns that trump might be allowed to sort of freelance and think of his deal points in the moment when he sits down with kim jong-un, part of the reason there are those concerns about this summit he's about to have is because last time, he just unilaterally blurted out the u.s. military didn't have the military

exercises. that weird out of the blue concession from trump, there emerged this back story several months before that summit in singapore, the "wall street journal" had reported where and when trump had first come up with that idea that the u.s. military should pull out of those joint exercises with south korea. the "wall street journal" had previously reported quote around the same time in the summer of 2017. mr. trump had an idea about how to counter the nuclear threat to north korea. where did he get that idea after speaking to russian president vladimir putin. so i mean, big picture of course, russia wants to augment its own influence and show off their strength and intimidating presence anywhere they can in the world but on their own borders and zero sum view of the world, russia of course wants to

minimize the influence of the united states. the projected power of the u.s. military and also nato. as such, since russia is a country that borders north korea, russia had long opposed there being joint u.s. military exercises with south korea on the korean peninsula. russia had long been against that. apparently in the summer of 2017 vladimir putin called up donald trump and told mr. trump that russia was against those joint military exercises and putin reportedly told trump that he, trump should be opposed to those exercises, too. president trump got off the phone with vladimir putin in the summer of 2017 apparently convinced and said as far as he was concerned, putin was right and those military exercises should definitely end. that was trump's big idea for north korea, a big idea that he got on a phone call with vladimir putin.

white house advisors including defense secretary james mattis apparently talked trump out of ending the exercises in the summer of 2017 but then in fact when trump went and met kim jong-un last summer in singapore in his own little art of the deal moment, he blurted out that in exchange for no concessions with the north koreans, the u.s. would in fact pull out of the joint exercises and everybody in national security, everybody in the trump administration like white house advisors, everybody was like where did that come from? it's actually in the public record he got that from putin. that is where he got the idea. and then he enacted it when he was given the opportunity at a one on one meeting between him and kim jong-un. then just last week, there was another awkward episode in this same tragic comic opera when andrew mccabe, former senior fbi official published his book with president trump and the fbi

challenge was what vladimir putin told trump about north korea and how trump reacted to that. >> the president launched into several unrelated one of those was commenting on the recent missile launches by the government of north korea and essentially the president said he did not believe that north koreans had the capability to hit us here with ballistic missiles in the united states, and he did not believe that because president putin had told them they did not. president putin had told him the north koreans don't actually have those missiles. >> and u.s. intelligence was telling the president what? >> intelligence officials in the briefing responded that that was not consistent with any of the intelligence our government

possesses to which the president replied, i don't care, i believe putin. >> you know, i don't care, i believe putin. you hear so much about how president trump doesn't work well with staff. he doesn't like listen to his briefings. he doesn't take any advice from his so-called advisors. seems like that's not true about north korea. seems like he's very, very willing to be briefed. he is very willing to take advice on north korea from one very, very special advisor. just the one, though. and his name is vlad. the president heads to meet one on one with the dictator again and today the foreign minister of russia, sergei, flying off to meet with kim jong-un once again, sergei lavrov today bragged to the press about how

the trump white house has been asking the kremlin for advice ahead of this summit with kim jong-un, too. this is the headline in the associated press today. quote, russia:u.s. asks for advise on north korea talks. here is the lead, quote, russian foreign minister sergei lavrov says the united states asked mosc moscow's advice in dealing with north korea before the summit with president donald trump and the north korean leader in comments carried today, lavrov said quote the u.s. is asking our advice, our views on this or that scenario on how the summit in hanoi could pan out. yeah, i bet. it's worked out so well for them before. i should mention also that the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov, the one bragging now about how someone in the trump administration has been begging for kremlin advice about what to do with kim jong-un of this summit, that same russian

foreign minister somewhat randomly also happens to be in vietnam this week. he happens to be in hanoi. while the trump kim jong-un summit will be taking place in hanoi. what is he doing there? could be just a coincidence. hanoi is lovely this time of year. high 70s, low 80s, cloudy and thunderstorms all week. so be on your toes over the next few days. that is going to unfold over the next few days. a lot of -- actually, it's worth noting, it seems like small logistic l stuff bstuff but new stuff will actually take place in the middle of the night u.s. time. we'll have a cheat sheet later what will unfold the next few days and when. it's awkward because of the time difference between here and vietnam but will make for a real 24 hour news cycle where stuff happens all day long here, you know, in what is expected to be

a big week of news and when we're supposed to be sleeping, there will be more big news happening where the president is all those time zones away in vietnam. don't worry, though, there will be plenty of time to catch up on sleep next year. one of the first things that's going to happen here in the u.s. as the president arrives at the kim jong-un summit in vietnam is that perhaps not coincidentally, the house intelligence committee will be convening their first open hearing of the u.s. congress since democrats took the majority. their new hearing quote national security implications of the rise of authoritarian of the world for a president who praised the dictator as honorable and thanked him for his quote courage and who has gushed publicly about he and the north korean dictator fell in love with each other, those were the president's words and the house intelligence committee will play a theme song tomorrow for the amazing spectacle of an

american president jumping into this particular dick dtator's l again. tomorrow's hearing will be about athor t ath ath authority. the world witnessed the athor t authority leaders and the challenges these regimes and ideologies pose to liberal democracies demand our full attention from putin's russia to xi's china to duterte's philippines to erdogan's turkey, the model ought to concern every american. which just has a different residence when it turns out that not every american has the same take on this issue or the same instinct that authoritarian government has an ick factor. when our current president came back from meeting kim jong-un in singapore the last time, last summer, he told fox news upon

his return about kim jong-un, he's the head of a country, the strong head, do not let anyone think anything different. he speaks and his people sit up at attention. i want my people to do the same. i think it is fair to say that it is not an accident that while president trump is meeting with an undoubtedly praising and offering free stuff to kim jong-un tomorrow house democrats will be convening a hearing on athuthoritarian government and dangers and probably not an accident that tomorrow will feature that vote in the house of representatives expected to rebuke and potentially block the president from using a decoloration, of a national emergency in ordinary tore get something he wants as a policy that congress will not agree to. again, we'll have more on that with john brennan in a moment. the most interesting thing about that vote tomorrow in the house and the following vote that will have to happen in the senate is

that those are likely to be bipartisan votes in addition to the 50 plus former senior officials from both parties who wrote that letter condemning that emergency decoloration, today, there was also a really interesting separate letter for more than two dozen former republican members of congress and some former republican senators advising their own republican colleagues currently in congress they, too, should vote with democrats to oppose the president on this if for nothing else, because it doesn't comport with republican party values for a president to do something like this. so this is turning out to be something where there is interesting fault lines, interesting non-partisan, sort of post partisan stuff going on there around the president's attempt to use emergency authority to defy congress. and of course, it's playing off as he goes off to have another summit with the dictator he has fallen in love with and of course, this is all playing out while the continuing scandal

that surrounds this president and his election in the first place precedes the pace. this is the week we're expecting three straight days of marathon testimony from the president's long-time personal lawyer michael cohen who is due to start a substantial federal prison sentence in a matter of weeks. michael cohen will speak behind closed doors to the senate intelligence committee tomorrow. he'll speak again behind closed doors to the house intelligence committee on thursday. but in between those two days while the president is having his big summit with kim jong-un, michael cohen, that same day, kind of that same time will be testifying in an open hearing that will be televised that will start wednesday morning at 10:00 a.m. before the house oversight committee. that announced an advance of michael cohen's testimony that one of the things cohen will be testifying about is the president's alleged involvement in two campaign finance felonies, two of the felonies that are among the charges sending michael cohen to prison for a considerable stretch.

these campaign finance felonies are charges to which both cohen and federal prosecutors in southern district of new york told the court president trump not only benefitted from the felonies, cohen and prosecutors told the judge president trump directed the commission of those crimes, that he basically ordered them. that is what makes the president effectively an unindicted co-conspirator in the two felonies. we expect michael cohen to be testifying about that on wednesday morning. and in addition to the cohen testimony this week, we are also expecting a status hearing, an open court tomorrow for maria butina, one of the many russian citizens charged with felonies in congestion with robert mueller's investigation and prosecution that derived from the investigation. although she's one of many russians charged, she's the only russian arrested and brought to court to face those charges

because russia doesn't extradite its citizens. butina was arrested in the united states and charged last summer, last december she plead guilty and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors. since then, accidently unredacted filings revealed she's been testifying to a grand jury as part of her cooperation efforts. the status conference that we're going to have in her case tomorrow originally was sched e scheduled for a couple weeks ago but the prosecution and defense asked the judge hearing her case to delay the status conference until this week because they told the judge quote, her cooperation is not yet complete. by that point, by the time they were asking for an extension by the time they were saying her cooperation was not yet complete, maria butina's oftitiofty ti

-- had been arrested and indicted and a case related to the russian military intelligence indictment brought last year by mueller's office. so since maria butina's cooperation was not yet complete as of a couple weeks ago, we haven't seen any other action by mueller or other federal prosecutors that would indicate the fruits of maria butina's cooperation but nevertheless, she is expected to be in court tomorrow for that status hearing. we will get the first substantive update on what is going on in her case. here is one thing to keep an eye on. her defense lawyer told a russian news agency within the past few days that her passport has been handed over to i.c.e. her passport has been handed over to american immigration authorities in a move her lawyer suggestions could expedite the process of her being deported back to russia as soon as her case is concluded. butina's defense team is hoping her cooperation is substantial

enough she will be sentenced to very little time in prison or perhaps she'll be sentenced to time that has been served already. if so, the ultimate resolution of the case will be she's deported back to russia. where who knows what awaits her. she's accused of being an agent of the russian government secretly working here in our country on the kremlin's behalf. on the other hand, the only way she will get out with little to no jail time presumably if prosecutors and the fbi atetest to the fact she's been a cooperate tore helping the justice department and into among other things, russia's interference in the presidential election. if she's substantially helped with on going justice department and fbi inquiries, that's the way she'll get out soon, but that might make going home a mixed emotion sort of thing, right?

we will know tomorrow when we get that status hearing in her case. i will tell you that maria butina's lawyer tonight confirmed to our office what he told russian news media that bu butina's passport has been handed over to u.s. immigration authorities and in robert driscoll's words, we're making sure deportation that will occur soon after her sentence, which will occur soon after her sentence is complete will not be unnecessarily delayed. her sentence is yet to be determined but they are hoping once she gets sentenced, they want her not to be held basically in immigration custody for a long time while her deportation gets sorted out. they want her deportation to be sorted so she goes straight from custody, either the custody she's no now or sentenced to and they want her to go right home to russia. we shall see. this weekend, of course, we got a 25-page sentencing men random

and prosecutors made about paul manafort. numerically, there was no surprise that mueller's prosecutors described 17 to 22 years in prison for manafort. again, this is just in the washington d.c. case. that sentencing range had been spelled out already and actually agreed to by manafort himself but what is surprising in the sentencing recommendation for prosecutors, to my eye, there was a couple things that were interesting, if not surprising, first of all, i thought it was interesting prosecutors went out of their way in example after example after example in the narrative about paul ma that fo -- ma that fort's crimes to have people involved in the process who are secretly being paid by a foreign government. i thought it was interesting the few different times they brought

this up. prosecutors from mueller's office stressed that point when it comes to paul manafort's history. when he worked in the 1980s, by president ronald reagan he had been part of something called the overseas private investment corporation. while he was serving in that public capacity, prosecutors say m manafort was acting by the justice department about the fact that public officials cannot be agents of foreign principles. manafort was confronted back then with the choice. he can keep that political appointment in the regan administration and continue to serve as a political appointed official but if he did that, or alternatively he can quit that appointment and quit as a public official and keep the foreign money. guess which one paul manafort picked back in the 1980s?

yeah, he quit the regan appointment and quit the public job and kept all the foreign money and years later when it came to his work with ukraine and the illegal unregistered lobbying for ukraine, prosecutors explained in detail how manafort duped members of congress and the executive branch by having them meet with european officials that appeared to be independent credible authorities on what the u.s. should do with policy towards ukraine. they purported to be people who were independent authorities who have come to their own conclusion about what u.s. policy should be when in fact, manafort had them on the payroll of the ukrainian government. in this dynamic comes up again and again from prosecutors when they are asking for a sentence. it's the most narrative we've seen from mueller's office how dangerous it is for americans and public officials and people involved in the democratic process to be secretly taking

foreign money while the other people involved don't know that they are on the take. so there is a lot that's still redacted in the manafort sentencing memo. we can't tell from this vantage point how many of those are about live on going cases or people who haven't been charged with any crime but maybe charged sometime in the future. just within the last few minutes, just before we got on the air, we got the response from manafort's defense team that was just filed with the court and made publicly available. the bottom line of the defense sentencing submission, no surprise, they are asking for manafort to receive as little prison time as possible. they are actually, i think, restricted as to what they can argue when it comes to manafort's sentence here. they are restricted because he did enter into a plea agreement he signed away his right to contest the sentencing guidelines. when he broke the plea agreement, that freed up prosecutors from their side of the deal but paul ma thmanaforts

still bound and he can't contest. the defense tonight filed this big pile of exhibits which is letters from his wife and relatives and people who have known him and say he's a boy scout, they have also filed a lengthy 50-page sentencing asking for lean yin see. we'll have more on that later. but again, that defense men random filed in manafort's case and sentencing itself will happen march 8th in virginia and march 13th in washington d.c. meanwhile, these next few days, this is going to be a 24 hour a day, seven days a neweek news cycle. we have former cia director john brennan with us here tonight in studio. lots to get to tonight. stay with us. studio lots to get to tonight stay with us

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intelligence analyst for nbc news and msnbc. good to have you. >> good to see you, rachel. >> i want to ask about your decision to sign on. this is former senior national security officials including yourself more than 50 of you signing on to this decoloration, that essentially says the president invoking a national emergency to try to do what he's going to do with the border wall is unprecedented and improper. >> we decided to do this for several reasons. the climaiming mr. trump is makg about the southern border, there is no basis for him to make that claim and so as we talked about it and as we worked these issues for so many years including border security, even the trump administration's statistics and assessments do not support his claim.

we'll speak to believe the in n unisome, several dozen of us. it's a clear budget authority. he went to congress, tried to get the money for his wall, was denied it. and so this is under mining the checks and balances system that we have within our government. it is congress' per viurview. for him to make moneys appropriated for other causes and uses for his border wall is wrong in our view. and third, it sets a very dangerous president. we don't know what mr. trump might decide next week or next month as a national emergency. there has to be a foundation to do something as significant as this and the previous decoloration,s were grounded and individuals that worked for republican and democratic decided they would speak out and call the lie a lie. >> this is another instance, i don't know if it's fair to see

it as this part of the a pattern, i do. i feel like this is another instance in which the president has heard he can do something and/or that he might arguably be able to do something and testing to see how far he can go. the president has done this with different red lines where he's told there is no coming back or will be politically damaging. i wonder what your expectation is if as seems likely the congress is actually going to pass a resolution brushing him back on this. the house of representatives tomorrow will vote to block the president from invoking this emergency that will certainly pass. it has more co-sponsors than votes to pass. it's increasingly starting to look like the senate will have enough votes to pass that, as well. the white house says the president will veto that but i wonder how you anticipate and i sort of a question, when somebody is testing the waters like that to see how far they can go, how they react to being brushed back. >> i think mr. trump has a track record of mischaracterizing the

facts. i am so glad that some of the republicans and the congress are now going to stand up against mr. trump. so it is going to be interesting to see what trump does in terms of pushing back. is he going to pursue this in some other way? who knows. as you say, he continues to test the limits. he doesn't understand what his authorities are and he's going to continue to push it and the fact that you have people around him in the white house who are not trying to reign him in really gives i think a lot of us great pause in terms of what he might do next. >> in terms of the president's trip to vietnam now, he's on route and will be meeting with kim jong-un one on one. i hoped the show talking about concerns expressed by anonymous national security officials currently serving worrying that the president might give away the store when he's one on one with kim jong-un. i identified a few instances the president seems to have done things that were a surprise to

his administration that line up to the russian government, president vladimir putin. what are you thinking about or watching for as he heads to this north korean summit? >> i'm looking for whatever concessions he might be tempted to make with the thought that it's going to get kim jong-un to denuclearize and i am -- i was very concerned when he decided to suspend the training exercise with the south koreans. this is so military forces to operate and train with our allies and partner forces in the region, not just for north korea but any eventu eventuality there. he givers up things without understanding the implications. who knows as he gets together with kim jong-un if vladimir putin is whispering in his ear or president xi. president xi is the biggest offender of kim jong-un. mr. trump needs to listen to his experts inside of the intelligence community inside of the department of defense and

others who understand and recognize that kim jong-un is masterful how he has manipulated donald trump's engagement. >> hearing that the president has been masterfully manipulated on the -- while he's on his way to the second part of the summit. john brennan, can you stick with us for one more segment? >> sure. >> i have a few more things i want to does you aboask you abo. we'll be right back. ask you abou. we'll be right back. simmered to perfection. with big flavors, not artificial ones. enjoy 100% clean soup today. panera. food as it should be. enjoy 100% clean soup today. the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand new way for you to sell your car.

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back with us now is john brennan and senior national security analyst. thanks for being here. >> sure. >> there has been a lot of discussion and anticipation about how the mueller investigation is going to end and when and what sort of report will be produced, if any, and what sort of access we'll have as the public to that information. i wanted to ask you about something that happened at the outset of the russian investigation. andrew mccabe said the gang of eight, the heads of both parties in both houses of congress and intelligence committees were briefed in detail about what was going on with russia and election interference. and that is something that we had known in broad strokes, i think andrew mccabe filled in details there that we didn't necessarily know before. what is disstressitressing to ps seeing the behavior of some of

those members of congress that were briefed after they had that information. people like senator richard burr, the leader there bipartisan investigation into this matter. publicly denying that there was any reason to attribute these attacks to russia after we now know he was personally and briefed in detail on the fact that russia was carrying out these attacks. and i know you can't talk about anything classified. you can't talk about the content of the briefings but i wanted your reaction now that we the public know more what happened. >> i briefed a gang of eight on the assessment in terms of what russia was doing. andy briefed him on the investigation the fbi was engaged in. i was dismayed some of the members, the gang of eight seemed to be rather dismissive of the intelligence community's assessment and being protective of the candidate of their choice during the campaign. it is disheartening that a number of members of congress

have come out very publicly against the intelligence community assess tment and fbi' work. burr and mark warner have been doing a good job working in a bipartisan fashion. devinder mined the degree mr. trump. so i think now with adam schiff in the chair of the house community intelligence, i think there is a much better shot of getting to the bottom of this but too many vinindividuals in congress are playing partisan politics on something of great importance. i'm sure it's disheartening to me and a lot of members of the intel sdwreligence and law enfot communities. >> what do you expect in terms of how the mueller investigation will end? >> bob mueller is meticulous

prosecutor, and i do believe that there is going to be more indictments. i would think the indictments are going to be probably presented along with the final report. so far we haven't had any indictments of for example members of trump family, as well as any indictment that might identify americans who are involved in a criminal conspiracy. if in fact, there is evidence to that and if the special counsel decides to go forward, i would expect it to be the final act because i think bob mueller and his team would know that cutting that close to the bone, so to speak would be the final bill for them and so i anticipate that some time in march, we're probably going to see more of the indictments, the final report. i don't have any insight into it but i do believe that bob mueller is going to hand off the southern district of new york, the eastern district of virginia to state attorney generals appropriate the investigative threads that will need to be

continued to be pulled but i do think that we're going to see more in the coming weeks that will then be addition to the final report. >> former cia director john brennan. thank you. appreciate you being here. >> thank you. much more ahead tonight. stay with. > much more ahead ton. stay with. . u. s. . u. s. (engine in the distance) (wheels screeching) (kickstart my heart by motley crue) (truck honks) (ave maria by shubert) (loud thump, wheels screeching) (kickstart my heart)

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it's all the ones after that. as i mentioned, we just within the last hour got the sentencing man re ing memo. this is paul manafort's response from the sentencing ae ing administration. they said paul manafort, donald trump's campaign chairman quote repeatedly and breeazenly broke the law. the special counsel's office this weekend told the court in the manafort case, there were many aggravating factors when it comes to manafort's behavior that should make the sentence worse and no mitigating factors

that should make it better. according to federal rules, the federal judge in the d.c. case can't sentence manafort to more than ten years in prison specifically in the d.c. part of the case. she's facing up to fiver years for each of the two felonies he pled guilty to. the max that judge can give him is ten years. but manafort and his defense team tonight, they are arguing manafort should in fact get less than that, that he should get no jail time at all if possible. the reason they are saying that is because of oall the bad thins paul manafort didn't do. their case they open the submission by saying his case is not about murder, drug cartels, organized crime, the madoff ponzi scheme or collapse of enron. okay, i didn't do any of those, either. the reports are also not quote related to the primary focus of the special counsel investigation, any links or coordination between the russian government or individuals

associated with donald trump. never nevertheless, these offenses led to mr. manafort being vilified in a manner this country has not experienced in decades. manafort's lawyers argue the special counsel's office charged manafort with the crimes he eventually pled guilty to only because they couldn't establish that manafort engaged in any quote russia collusion. in other words, what manafort is going for in the filing tonight is the argument that he didn't do anything that bad, that he's the victim of a political prosecution and even though his defense is sort of constrained by the fact that manafort pled guilty already and conceded what the sentencing guidelines would be in this case, they are still arguing for stuff to be as lenient as they can make it. how will that go for him? joining us is ken vogel, reporter for "the new york times." thanks for being with us tonight. i know you're joining us on short notice. appreciate you making the time. >> great to be with you, rachel.

>> what should we understand on the fate and more importantly, what we learned about the course of his case in the two jurisdictions? >> my biggest take away from his lawyer's sentencie ing men memorandum. men randomorandum.

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vogel with the "new york times." ken, in this filing in the past half hour or so, paul manafort has just said to the judge considering his sentence that since manafort isn't being charged with any crimes related to russia collusion, in the grand scheme of things his crimes aren't that serious, so effectively he shouldn't get that tough a sentence. ken, i know you have been reporting on constantine kalimnik, a long-time coworker of manafort, but it is said that manafort may have sent kalimnik long-time polling data from the trump campaign during the time that trump was up for election. can you tell us what happened at that point? >> our sources tell us when this first occurred, when manafort actually instructed rick gates, his deputy on the campaign and

also his deputy during the time in ukraine, to transmit polling data to constantine kalimnik, a long-time associate of both of theirs who have been assessed by the fbi to have ties with russia, when they first did that, it was in the spring of 2016, right when trump was wrapping up the republican nomination, right when constantine kalimnik had just been or was preparing to go to new york to meet with associates and he said he hoped to meet with trump as well, and just when manafort was brushing up the campaign to benefit donald trump's presidential campaign, and you could see how potentially -- and we don't know for sure -- but potentially having very detailed polling information that showed how donald trump was polling with various segments of the population in various places. having that could potentially

assist someone who was trying to launch a social media campaign to help donald trump. >> ken vogel, reporter for the "new york times." thank you for your reporting and helping us understand it tonight. >> thank you, rachel. we'll be right back. stay with us. stay with us

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