that's our show for today. thanks for watching. "am joy" is back next week. alex witt. i know you have a lot coming up. there's a new nbc wall street journal poll. a lot of good stuff. are you going to dig into it? >> a lot of good stuff. the one thing that bothers me, socialist and socialism, the republicans are using that very liberally right now, no pun intended there, to paint democrats as being socialists. >> it's a setup for how the 020 2020 election is going to be played. >> from msnbc world headquarters in new york, it is high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. new developments this hour. first, a startling new number about the trump white house just brought up by the house judiciary chair. then a critical deadline looming closer for jared kushner and new

fallout from the president's cpac speech. >> new today. we have dramatic word from the house judiciary committee. congressman jared nadler said his committee will be requesting documents from over 60 different people and entities close to the white house and president. that's right, you heard it, 60. >> from the white house to the department of justice, donald trump jr., allen weisselberg to begin investigations to present the case to the american people about that obstruction of justice, corruption and abuse of power. >> that would include john kelly, don mcgann, the former white house counsel? >> i would assume so. i don't have the list in front of me. we will be releasing the list tomorrow. also tomorrow it is the deadline for the white house to provide the house oversight committee documents related to

security clearances or risk being subpoenaed. this after "the new york times" reported the president ordered a top secret security clearance for jared kushner overruling career intelligence officials. the president after a bruising week, both at home and abroad, unleashed with the longest speech of his presidency. he riled up a sympathetic crowd. among his wide ranging targets, robert mueller, james comey and hillary clinton. and the president downplayed his infamous campaign press conference in which he called on russia to hack hillary clinton's e-mails. >> if you tell a joke, if you're sarcastic, if you say something like, russia, please, if you can, get us hillary clinton's e-mails. then that fake cnn and others say, he asked russia to go get the e-mails. horrible. >> crucially the special counsel's office says russians

that very same day back in july 2016 made their first attempt to hack clinton's personal servers. a new nbc news wall street journal poll said 58% do not think the president has been honest and truthful about the investigation into russian interference and in the same poll the president's approval is up by 3 percentage points. it stands at 46% up from 43 in january. let's go to mike vacara at the white house. do we have any further info, mike, on who is on that list? 60 names on entities. >> reporter: well, it's an amazingly big number. 60 plus names. jerry nadler, chairman of the house judiciary committee, very powerful commission, he says the congress has to do its job. they can't depend on robert muell mueller to do congress's job. 60 individuals from the white house, the department of

justice, donald trump jr. allen weisselberg who has an immunity deal investigating personal power, emoluments clous. threats to the investigation and the hush money that was the subject and that check that michael cohen produced at his open testimony on wednesday before the house oversight committee, hush money that nadler terms a possible sabotage of a fair election which could be an impeachable offense according to nadler. on that very sensitive subject of impeachment, here's a little bit more of what jerry nadler had to say. >> fellow democrats say the evidence that the president has obstructed justice is an abuse of power that justifies impeachment. can there be impeachable offenses that are not crimes? >> oh, sure. crimes and impeachable offenses

are two different things. we have to lay out for the american people, and we can't depend on the mueller investigation for this. the mueller investigation, number one, we don't know when it's ending despite lots of rumors. number two, it's focused on specific crimes and we have to focus much more broadly. on abuses of power. >> reporter: well, there you have it, alex. he makes a distinction on crimes and impeachment. we've heard that a lot and we'll hear it more in the next coming weeks. impeachment is a political process. whether a president should be impeached or not is up to the elected representatives. meanwhile, democrats over the course of the last several days from leadership on down have been playing down the possibility of impeachment. nadler says impeachment is, quote, a long way down the road if it's going to happen at all. >> i think he's right on that. >> joining me now, washington

correspondent to the san francisco chronical, and john nichols,, a very big hello to all three of you. charlie, i want to get first your reaction of all of the documents dropping tomorrow. it is targeting, as you know, the president's closest confidant confidantes. there are 60 names and entities. >> what this means is the house judiciary is starting to swing into action. the difference that the last year's mid term made in bringing democrats to power and transforming the power of congress from a defense of the white house when it was under republican control into a probing adversarial oversight relationship is now really kicking into gear. 60 plus games is a lot of names and we're going to have to go through that list carefully once it is put out tomorrow to really understand the scope of the limit -- and the limits of what they're looking for here.

i do imagine there's going to be some names on that list who are not willing to turn over documents and provide testimony and cooperate and i think that the theme of a year that we're heading into is going to be one of confrontation between the branches and eventually the question of how -- what kind of contempt of congress lawsuits the house under nancy pelosi's leadership is going to be willing to pursue. i suspect that among other things they're going to want to choose their targets carefully and focus their legal action to enforce subpoenas rather than having a scatter shot one with many different committees pursuing his 60 plus names on their own topics of interest. so filtering out which ones they're really willing to go to war over will be an important internal conversation. >> charlie, what do you make of chairman nadler saying the democrats can't depend on the mueller investigation because it's too focused? are they moving the goalposts here? >> the mueller investigation of course is looking at russian

interference in the 2016 election and whether the trump campaign coordinated with it. as we saw with the cohen hearing just last week, there's all kinds of other issues about financial crimes and campaign finance crimes and emoluments and so for the that are outside the a.m. by tmbit which is one reasons mueller spun that off when he encountered it because it wasn't core to his mandate. nadler is saying we have a mandate far wider ranging. i don't think that's moving the goalposts, that's explaining their jurisdiction. >> look, this is just the beginning of many requests and potential subpoenas to come. how do you see the white house handling this? will there be any cooperation? >> any cooperation? it's honestly hard to say. look, in many ways we are now entering what's going to be the real heart of this, which is the legal fight over a lot of this.

the administration has already shown that it really is taking an expansive view of executive privilege. they've used it to limit what secretaries in the past, the attorney general have been able to testify in front of committees. you know, the past two years obviously democrats had no enforcement powers when they felt like someone wasn't being a responsive witness and now they do. and we're going to see some really interesting legal fights, especially when you look back at some of the back and forth going back to the investigation into what happened in benghazi and some of what republicans who are in control then subpoenaed and fought with the administration to get. a lot of those court cases are now going to come to play again with the tables sort of turned. so, you know, there may be a few things the administration sort of cooperates on, but i think both sides are probably preparing for a bit of a knock down drawn out fight. >> what goes around comes around to your point. john, we listened to congressman nadler discuss the issue of

impeachment. you have an article in which you write that cohen's testimony formed the basis for articles of impeachment. here's what the congressman said this morning. >> we do not now have the evidence all sorted out and everything to do an impeachment. before you impeach somebody you have to persuade the american public that it ought to happen. you have to persuade enough of the opposition party voters, the trump voters that you're not just trying -- >> that's a very high bar. >> yeah, it is a very high bar. you're not trying to reverse the results of the last election. we may not get there. >> weigh in on that and how significant public opinion is when making the case for impeachment. >> well, it's the most significant thing because ultimately impeachment is a political process. we can't emphasize this enough and your correspondent just did a moment ago, but this is something that an awful lot of people lose sight of.

they imagine the constitution and its outline of impeachment as some sort of legal contract, a set of laws. that's not it. the constitution in this case outlines how government works and the congress is given the power to check and balance the executive. impeachment is the ultimate power in that regard. it's a process and where we are at right now is incredibly significant. remember what congressman nadler said there. we don't have it all sorted out just now and then talked about the role of public opinion. so first and foremost you figure out what you might something is an impeachable offense. i happen to think that several impeachable offenses have been defined. i think obstruction of justice will be at or near the top of that list, but then once you have done that you hold hearings. you conduct a process. in that process two things happen. one, the white house complies or doesn't comply.

that itself can form the basis for articles of impeachment. >> yeah. >> secondly, the american people view the process. they figure out whether they think this is fair and reasonable and the key word here, necessary. >> yeah. >> okay. so that process, charlie, even if democrats have enough evidence for impeachment, they're not going to move forward without public support. how do they read that support? where do they gauge it? yes, we have the chance to go through the process if we go through the process but where does it stand now? >> i think what congressman nadler has said not just today but repeatedly over the last few months, he's not going to move forward with impeachment proceedings unless a sizeable amount of republicans agree that president trump needs to be removed earlier than his term would naturally end anyway. obviously we're nowhere near there. i think behind that is not just a high philosophical and moral understanding that impeachment is something that should be bipartisan and not just a

political act but it's also expedient and the political will because you need the votes of 2/3 of the senate to remove a president. if you don't have a large number of them to do that impeaching them only ends in him remaining in office but vindicated more or less and with democrats standing accused of over reach not unlike what republicans were during the bill clinton impeachment hearings. the next election is only 611 days. i think what democrats at least at the leadership is they want to drag stuff into the light heading into trying to defeat donald trump at the polls absent some major new revelation that changes our understanding of what's going on here. >> yeah. in terms of dealing with this sweeping away of investigations, i know the president may use two hour long speeches to do so, but what about white house officials? >> yeah, i mean, look. each of these witnesses end up

having to testify, you know, we've already seen a sort of unwillingness to sort of play along. you know, it's perfectly reasonable going back to, for example, matt whitaker's testimony, the brief time period in which he was acting attorney general. he really did not play along with democrats' questioning, and when you have hours and hours of that dynamic, it's possible for democrats to come out looking kind of bruised at the end of that because they're sort of hammering home points and witnesses not really willing to go there. and it looks like they're sort of badgering him or whatever. there's a really delicate balance here. certainly, you know, the way information is released and the way witnesses end up speaking, i mean, there's a lot of -- when you talk about just taking a step back, this notion that the public has to go along with whatever the house is up to, that is what we're talking about here is beet sidoth sides playi public opinion going into the

election year. that's the calculus they're making on all of these decisions. >> john, playing to public opinion, playing to the room, what was your assessment at cpac by the president? >> i think it was a desperate speech by a man who had a horrible week. remember he was trying to deal with the koreans during the course of this week, north koreans and then also had the cohen testimony. i think he is a shaken man and he realizes that what we're discussing now is very relevant to his future. >> it was this extraordinary stream of consciousness. didn't seem like there was a prompter anywhere to be seen. >> thank you guys so much. good to see you. let's move now to the weather because there is a swift-moving winter storm and it's heading across the u.s. aiming for right here in the northeast. let's go to meteorologist janessa webb. i have some plans this afternoon. i'm wondering if i should cancel them. >> timing is key, alex. i want everyone in the northeast to be off roadways from the 7:30

hours to the overnight hours. timing is key. this is a quick-moving system. rapidly moving across the plains now entering the midwest. this just in, a tornado watch out for the deep south. potential for severe weather as this system starts to track in. let's talk about the colder side of this system. our models are now showing cooler air tracking towards the north. winter weather advisories and winter storm warnings now in place across new york, into boston potentially 4 to 6 inches. what is saving us here across the northeast, even the plains and midwest, it's a quick mover here and so should be out for your early morning commute. northern new england. unfortunately you're going to have to deal with that for tomorrow morning's commute. behind this storm system is a very cold arctic blast that's going to make its way from the upper midwest to the plains here. look at these air temperatures this afternoon. daytime highs rapid city, only one degree. 14 degrees with departures.

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do you think the president obstructed justice? >> yes, i do. it's very clear. 1100 times he referred to the mueller investigation as a witch hunt. he fired -- he tried to protect flynn from being investigated by the fbi. he fired comey in order to stop the russian thing as he told nbc news. he -- he's dangled part -- he's threat -- he's intimidated witnesses in public. >> joining me now, representative harley rueda, democrat from california. member of the oversight committee. welcome back to the broadcast. i'm glad to have a fellow californian here. 1100 times stated by the congressman. i found that absolutely stunning he referred to it as a witch hunt that many times but he said the president obstructed justice and abused power. congressman, from what you learned, do you think that's the case? and if so, how so?

>> i think we saw that evidence in the oversight reform committee meetings this week with michael cohen and in my line of questioning it became very clear that the president has lied under oath, at least that's what the evidence would suggest, that there has been potential collusion and there's certainly been obstruction of justice. so when you add all that up and you look at history and seeing what has responded and became ab impeachable offense, we are seeing an interesting path. >> if he has abused his power, if he has obstructed justice, why would it be wrong for congress to take up impeachment? is it just about politics? the congressman suggests you would need to bring along the american people. >> first of all, i don't agree with that this is politics.

it's our constitutional duty to investigate. we need to have the full investigation completed before taking any steps that need to be taken. just as a prosecutor doesn't start a case 10%, 20% into the case decides to file charges, they want to get through the entire investigation. here we have the mueller report. we expect that soon. and that i think will be a very revealing investigation as to what if anything has transpired under this administration and this president. in addition, we finally have committees with oversight doing the job they're supposed to do. for two years republicans have stood on the sidelines and allowed this president to do as he sees fit without any oversight, so it's time now to get to the truth. >> you heard the congressman also suggesting the mueller report is not enough. do you agree with that? is this more about as you look at it being driven by word that the mueller report may not live up to expectations? >> i think it's hard to suggest that one way or another since we haven't seen it. i think the bigger concern is we

are getting indications, obviously, from the attorney general and even the president as to what may or may not be released from that report. so we have to assume for a moment that maybe that report is not disclosed in its entirety less any international secrets to the public. if that's the case, that they're going to try to withhold any information that the public deserves to know, we have to make sure that these congressional investigations can provide to the public the higher truth and allow them to make their own decision as to the credibility and voracity of this president and the administration. >> let's take a listen to a little something, part of what we heard from the president in his marathon two-hour plus speech yesterday. here it is. >> so they don't have anything with russia. there's no collusion. now they go and morph into, let's inspect every deal he's

ever done. we're going to go into highs finances. we're going to check his deals. we're going to check -- these paem a people are sick. >> how much do your constituents have as an appetite for this? >> i think people want objectivity. i was a republican for 17 years. i can tell you if a democratic president had one ounce of what we're seeing here under president trump i would want to investigate and know the truth. and i believe our constituents in orange county want the exact same thing and across our country. we just want the truth and we have a president who continues to dodge providing simple answers, simple documentation, tax returns and stop telling lies repeatedly. whether it's under oath or otherwise. we have a right as citizens of the united states to know the truth and know the truth about his relationship with russia, and we're going to keep digging until we know. >> i'm curious that you were a

republican for 17 years. can you tell us what it was that made you pivot, switch parties? >> i left in the late 1990s, and i can tell you when i was a republican we had republicans that believed in environmental stewardship, they believed in a woman's right to choose and they believed in voting rights and they believed in bringing down the deficit. we have a republican party that does not embrace those issues in a way that i believe most americans do. >> yeah. well, they say that the party has changed irrevocably. we had rick tyler on my broadcast and he said it doesn't look anything like it. it looks like the party of trump. he believes it was decimated never to return again. it was quite profound what he was saying yesterday. i want to take a look at this in regard to michael cohen. here's one of the questions that you asked at that wednesday hearing. here it is. >> president trump doing negotiations throughout the campaign regarding the trump tower in moscow, was he directly involved in those negotiations

and if so how do you know? >> well, the answer is yes, and as it relates to negotiations, it was merely follow-ups as to what's currently happening. what's happening with russia? i mean, he wanted me to give him a status report. >> i'm curious how serious of a matter this is in your mind, that the president may have been involved with the russia tower deal throughout much of the tower debate if cohen is to be believed? >> it's a broader relationship with the russian leader, oligarchs and their supporters and with the trump administration -- excuse me, the trump organization and the purchase of condos at cash, at list price for continuing multiple properties across the world. what we saw with the negotiation of the trump hotel with constant

denials by president trump and other members of the trump organization only to find out once again we were lied to. and this number of lies, what is he and his family and the trump organization trying to cover up? i think we all have a right to understand what's behind the scenes. >> california democrat, congressman harley rouda, thank you for your time. look forward to seeing you again. >> thank you. the key question of pardons will come up later next week. we'll take a legal look at that next. at&t provides edge-to-edge intelligence, covering virtually every part of your manufacturing business. & so this won't happen. because you've made sure this sensor and this machine are integrated. & she can talk to him, & yes...

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new reaction today from both sides of the aisle as those on capitol hill disagree whether the president of the united states who is now facing new criminal allegations from his former attorney has committed a crime. let's take a listen. >> this investigation goes far beyond collusion. we've seen all the democratic norms that we depend on for democratic government attacked by the administration. >> do you think the president obstructed justice? >> yes, i do. >> there was nothing the president did wrong. >> nothing? >> in this process to be impeempd? show me where he did anything to be impeached. >> joining me now, jill winebanks and former u.s.

attorney and msnbc legal analyst, barbara mcquade. welcome both. if this were anyone else, someone not the president, how hard would it be to prove obstruction? as you heard mccarthy saying, has the president done nothing wrong? >> well, the key element for obstruction of justice and the hardest part to prove in any case is a corrupt intent. not so much what he did but why he did it. and when it's the president because he's the chief executive, he might have done it for a legitimate reason. if hypothetically he truly believed he's done nothing wrong and it is a waiste of resources and politically damaging, that might be a pure intent that is not criminal. if on the other hand he did collude with russia or he knows others were and he even tried to end the investigation, that could be the kind of corrupt intent necessary for an obstruction of justice charge. >> there's this new washington post article, jill, which details how republicans refused

to turn on their own party as investigation and threats are looming over the president. you have democratic senator john tester saying i'm not sure watergate would be prosecuted. given your experience, what do you think about that? do you agree? >> i do fear that given the news cycle now, given the multiplicity of news outlets and the fact that at least some percentage of our country is listening to news that is not based on fact, i think it's harder to bring the public along and i do believe that the public hearing with cohen as the first witness is the first step towards bringing the public to a place where they can accept the facts. they will hear and judge for themselves, and that's an important element, but i do think that things would be different during watergate despite the explosive evidence we had and now we have things like donald trump's very

distinctive signature on a check paying off someone or repaying the person who paid that person off and it's a very dramatic moment where we see the president as president involved in returning money that was used to pay off someone to keep the facts from the american public so that they wouldn't vote in a certain way. he didn't want them to know those facts and he definitely did it. i think there is enough evidence of obstruction and corrupt intent and we shouldn't forget that. even if we don't proof what is being called collusion but which should not be because that's allowing the president to set the definition of things. >> right. >> it is conspiracy. >> i spoke directly to laurence tribe this week and he said the same thing. we're going to try to stick with the word conspiracy. that being said, barbara, there's a new "washington post" article in whether michael cohen was involved in pardon

negotiations. there is more to come from the sdny. is it possible it's about pardons? >> the pardon power is an absolute presidential power, but if it is used in a corrupt way, for example, if he promised a pardon to michael cohen and others in exchange for providing false testimony to congress or robert mueller, i would think that would be an obstruction of justice in itself. i think even though the president has very, very broad pardon powers, if he uses them in a corrupt way that, too, could be a crime. >> ladies, i'm sorry to cut it short. that's a wrap for today. thank you so much. >> thanks, alex. right now civil rights activists and political leaders are gathered in selma, alabama, for the annual commemoration of bloody sunday 54 years ago. it's serving as an unofficial 2020 campaign stop. let's get to nbc's ali vitali

there. we know senator bernie sanders is there. how about other candidates using this as a, you know, unofficial campaign stop? who's there? >> reporter: yeah, alex, this has sort of become a 2020 hot spot. it's a place where not just bernie sanders but sherod brown who's not a declared candidate and cory booker was also here. bernie sanders and hillary clinton had a little bit of tension recently as bernie has gotten in the race, some of those old tensions from 2016 have flared up. he did tersely and very briefly congratulate her for the award that she was here to win this morning. sherod brown and cory booker both, bernie sanders, all focused on voter suppression and we have a similar message making this a battle she has not won. take a listen to what she has said here. >> to anyone who has ever wondered what you would have done during those defining moments that we read about in

history books, whether you would have risked arrest to demand votes for women or bled on the edmund bridge to demand voting rights for all, the answer is what you are doing now could be as important as anything that anyone has done before. >> and, alex, you heard her mentioning the edmund pettis bridge. it's raining, thundering, lightning over here but it is expected that all of those politicians are going to walk across that bridge in commemoration of bloody sunday. we'll see what the weather is like. that's the plan now. >> given what they were facing 54 years now versus a little bit of inclement weather, they will head across that bridge. thank you so much from selma. apparently it's not easy being green, at least for bernie sanders. why he may be failing to practice what he preaches about the environment. the environment. 300 miles an hour,

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new attention focused on the flying habits of senator bernie sanders who just yesterday held his first 2020 campaign rally in front of a huge and adoring crowd. a political report shows former hillary clinton aides are still fuming over his travel demands in 2016. joining me now is daniel lipman. you heard ali vitali as well. senator sanders was on that stage and offered a rather terse

congratulations. is this all sour grapes? >> there's still a lot of bad blood between the two sides. clinton's folks view bernie as not helping enough to get his supporters across the finish line to vote for her last time around. my reporting shows that he repeatedly requested and received the use of a private jet for those last couple months of the campaign. >> how much? how much air travel are we talking about here? >> so we're talking at least $100,000 worth of trips and of course some of them at the very end of the campaign when he was darting around the country, that was, you know, perfectly fine to use a private jet just to get around, but some of the other trips the clinton folks said that they preferred that he go commercial. >> yeah. here's kind of an ouch from a clinton aide and what he told you. the quote is, ready for it, his royal majesty, king bernie sanders, would only deign to

leave his plush d.c. office or his brand new second home on the lake if he was flown around on a curby private jet like a billionaire master of the universe. that sounds snarky. why now? why not put this all behind them for the good of the party, for the good of putting a cohesive platform together for 2020? >> well, a lot of clinton people just hold grudges and most americans didn't know that bernie sanders who talks a lot about the environment and fighting climate change and, you know, he's against wealth and equality, that he has been flying on a private jet for a number of different stints in the last couple years. there was a dnc unity tour he went on with tom perez in april of 2017 when he requested the dnc provide him a private jet that he later partially reimbursed so that they could make a number of stops. but this was not during the height of election season.

and so, you know, there's less of an excuse that oh, he had to, you know, be here, here, there. >> yeah. >> then he spent another $300,000 last year when he was campaigning for democratic candidates as well. >> bottom line, is this about scheduling, about security or both? when they want to use private planes. >> i think it's kind of a combination of both and also when you fly private, you are not accosted by everyone asking for selfies and so you can kind of get to your locations earlier, but, you know, the clinton folks decry hypocrisy. when i talk to the sanders' campaign this time i asked them, are you going to use a private jet for the 2020 campaign? and they said they will try to fly commercial as much as they can but they will consider the use of charter jets when needed. >> i am betting thanks to your article people will be keeping track of that.

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unfortunately you put the wrong people in a couple of positions and they leave people for a long time that shouldn't be there, time that shouldn't be there. all of a sudden they are trying to take you out with [ bleep ] okay? because you know the attorney general says i'm going to recuse myself. and i said, why the hell didn't he tell me that before i put him in. how do you recuse yourself? >> president trump taking a swipe at former ag jeff sessions in a two-hour plus speech at cpac. that crowd cheering his attacks as he lobbied shots at james comey, democrats and others. that spectacle raising new questions about the evolution of the republican party. let's bring in policy strategist helena beverly for white house affairs and obama administration

and republican strategist susan and msnbc political analyst. susan, what's your reaction to that? i listen to that, and i find it almost embarrassing the way the president expresses himself. it sounded like to anyone listening in this crowd that that crowd was fully with the president yesterday. as that was happening, i want to get you to answer, but i want you to listen to what republican strategist rick tyler said to me about this speech yesterday. here it is. >> it's not cpac anymore. it hasn't been since 2016. it's now trump pac. it should be tpac. the people there they talk about pro tariffs, anti-justice, anti-law enforcement, anti-imgallant, anti-muslim, pro russia, pro autocrat. it's unrecognizable what donald trump has done to the party and what he's done to the conservative movement. >> what do you think about what

he said there and how the president portrayed himself yesterday. >> i think rick was absolutely right, alex. i don't think it was lem bearsing, i think it was an embarrassment. i don't think it was a speech. i think it was a rant. a disgraceful way for the president of the united states to handle himself. imagine children not being able to handle president of the united states and watching him get bleeped because of bad language. >> that's the easiest part to take apart and say what he's done to the oval office. rick is right, what he's done to the riff movement is completely hijacked. i blame the people in that crowd because they would rather be entertained than face hard realities and face the fact that they have sold themselves out to the great entertainer of our political times. that's all they have done. they have done nothing to move forward policies that matter,

for us to be taken seriously as a party. i'm fortunate enough that i have some prominent democrats said, please don't leave the party yet. i know you're ready to go but we need solid republicans like yourself to move forward. >> can republican party as we knew it in the past move forward. rick suggested there's no chance of it being resurrected. >> i somewhat disagree. i think it's going to take a time where we face a disaster in our country. whether it be natural disaster, financial disaster, terrorist attack. it's something that requires strong leadership and real policies and things to help us go forward as a nation. that's really unfortunate. but for now trump does own the party. >> god, i hope you're not right. >> i know. >> elena how does the evolution of the republican party play into democratic strategy? >> to your point, i think this

party has become a case study in cult behavior and group think. i think that we're seeing that translate to members of congress who are standing by this president when he -- a party that used to be the party of family values, we're seeing him order the stripping of their families from the border. the republican party that used to be about upholding our institutions are now having members of congress supporting donald trump as an unindicted co-conspirator and completely advocating the responsibility to uphold institutions of government. for the democratic field in 2020, we're not hearing our democrats talk about impeachment, we're hearing our democrats talk about standing up for our institutions of government and what is best about america, embracing policies affecting people, you know, every day at their kitchen table but serving as a stark contrast to what we're seeing in

the white house. >> here is part of what was written, a new article in the "washington post," i want to read part of it to you to see your reaction. the representative mike simpson publicly acknowledged what many say privately, gop accepting behavior and policies from trump that would spark outrage from a democratic president, particularly trump's attempt to use executive power in defiance of congress to secure a wall along the mexican border. how can republicans justify that? >> i have no idea, alex. i think it's a shame only 13 members of the house voted fortress illusion moving to the senate. i'm happy to see that now at least in the senate it looks like that vote will pass, so the president will have to decide if he wants to veto and put forward and seek and override for that power to create a national emergency. the republicans have shown right now in leadership they are in no position to lead. they are not -- they have no

moral fiber left in them because of the way they have sold themselves to donald trump. what's worse is they are not doing their job in any way, shape, or form by laying down and letting donald trump walk all over them. >> here is the last question to you and it refers to the cpac which the president knocked democrats for the deal calling them socialists. there's a new "wall street journal" nbc poll which found 50% of americans view that term socialism or socialist negatively. how concerned are you about this becoming a key attack line for republicans? >> i do think democratic socialism is going to be the new buzzword for republicans, and i do think that is somewhat of an achilles heel for us as democrats. however, i think the policies that the democrats are espousing, particularly the progressive policies on -- that have been espoused by bernie

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and this is how i got elected by being off script. and if we don't go off script, our country is in big trouble, folks. >> trouble for whom? still to be determined. good morning from msnbc headquarters, welcome to weekends with alex witt. new today, a major step by the chairman of the house judiciary committee, just a short time the chairman announced tomorrow his committee will begin requesting documents from over 60 different people and entities close to the white house and the president. >> from the white house to the department of justice, donald trump's, allen weisselberg to present investigations to the american people, obstruction of justice, corruption and abuse of power. >> that would include john kelly, john mcgahn the former white house counsel?

>> i would imagine. i don't have the list in front of me. we will be releasing the list over 60 people, entities, et cetera. >> it is also the deadline for the white house to provide house oversight committee with documents related to security clearances or risks being subpoenaed. this after "new york times" reporter ordered top secret clearance for jared kushner overruling intelligence officials. meanwhile the president after a bruising week at home and abroad unleashed yesterday with the longest speech of his presidency for more than two hours. he riled up a sympathetic crowd with the nation's top conservatives. among his wide ranging targets, robert mueller, james comey and hillary clinton. the president downplaying his infamous campaign press conference in which he called on russia to hack hillary clinton's e-mails. >> if you tell a joke, if you're sarcastic, if you say something like, russia, please, if you can, get us hillary clinton's

e-mails, then that fake cnn and others say, he asked russia to go get the e-mails. horrible. >> well, notably the special counsel's office says that russians that same day in july of 2016 made their first attempt to hack clinton's personal servers. a new wall street poll released this morning found 58% of that your vad do not think the president has been honest and truthful about the russia investigation. in the same poll the president's approval is up by 3 percentage points. it stands at 46% up from 43 in january. let's good to nbc mike vaccaro at the white house. a long day for you. let's get to the list. it mentions a bunch of the president's close confidants. >> it's startling. 60 letters going out to the white house, the department, his

son donald trump's, chief of the organization weisselberg. you heard the manhattan democrat, now chairman of the judiciary committee talking about do not mcgahn and john kelly, chief of staff and don mcgahn, white house counsel. people think, is this impeachment in everything but name only? just to review the impeachment process we went through it in 1988 and 1989 but just a refresher course. it starts in the house of representatives, specifically house judiciary committee of which jerald nadler is the chairman now. he says he wants to look into obstruction of justice. he already told nbc this morning he broefs obstruction of justice actually happened. he wants to look into corruption, abuse of power, threats to investigation of the

president and others and hush money paid to stormy daniels through michael cohen by the president which he calls a possible sabotage of a fair election, that would be, according to nadler, again, the chairman of the judiciary committee, he says it would be an impeachable offense. on that subject of impeachment, here is a little bit more of what nadler had to say. >> democrats already say that the evidence the evidence that ha on instructed justice in the russia investigation is an abuse of power that justifies impeachment. can there be impeachable offenses like that that are not crimes? >> oh, sure. crimes and impeachable offenses are two different things. we have to lay out for people -- we can't depend on the mueller investigation. the mueller investigation, we don't know when it's ending, despite lots of rumors. number two, it's focused on specific crimes. we have to focus much more broadly on abuses of power. >> that's an important

distinction between crimes and impeachment. there is no legal threshold for impeachment. it's a political process that begins in the house judiciary committee. asked directly about impeachment, nadler says that is a long way down the road. he's echoing the party line from nancy pelosi on down the line. a lot of top leaders have said that same thing. we're going to build this slowly and if impeachment is warranted we will proceed. they are staying away from the i word now, even though they are going through the motions and processes that may lead to that process itself. >> from the white house, thank you very much. joining me mou from missouri, congressman, welcome back to the broadcast. i'm curious what you know about the 60 people or entities will be requesting documents from. >> it will grow.

there are other committees, financial services committee, which i'm a member, where maxine waters is going to do some of the same thing. she's going to bring in, a possibility, she said, for subpoenas. we've got to look at everything we can because unfortunately and tragically and to some degree painfully our colleagues on the other side when they were in power refused to hold the other branch of government accounta e accountable. this is not a witch hunt, this is called accountability. the public hasn't seen it in the last two years so it's difficult to recognize. >> congressman nadler into saying he wants -- he believes the president obstructed justice and abused power. in your mind is that enough to start impeachment proceedings now? is there a reason to wait? >> i think jerry nadler is one of the smartest people i've been around in my life. there are a lot of fabulous

political minds inside the democratic caucus. most of them are saying something that i have already embraced and that is we need to take our time. we need to do what we can to avoid the whole i word, impeachment and bring in as much evidence as we can possibly bring. i think nadler is slowly but surely log at all kinds of things that raises the eyebrow of those of us who are involved in holding the executive branch accountab accountable. i think all the investigation that you referenced earlier are going to bring i think a lot of information to the front. but the issue is still going to be whether or not we move towards some kind of impeachment. i'm at the democratic caucus meetings every week. i've never heard, as of right

now, anybody in the democratic caucus tat floor and start talking about impeachment. i don't think we're interested in going through. >> how about your constituents. what are you hearing from them? >> there is probably a contingent inside the democratic caucus. it's a smaller group that is in favor of trying to go ahead with impeachment. make no mistake, here in missouri, the largest city in the united states, there are people who want me to get on the impeachment bandwagon. what i said to them is let's let the evidence push me in that direction. the other side is this, if the house impeaches donald trump, overturning the election, and i don't think it would be -- i don't think the senate would do it, so we go into the next election with donald trump saying i was impeached in the house and the senate found me

not guilty. from my perspective, do we want that to take place? >> i want to ask you, because we're watching from the control booth, when we played some of the sound from the cpac speech, you were shaking your head. what did you think of his speech? >> an hour and 22 minute speech -- >> two hours and 2 minutes, sir, even longer. >> well, in seminary, we're trained after 20 minutes, you're not going to say anything important. and i think that happened with the president. you know, the scary thing about the speech was that i think it was an expression of his frustration and his fear. he's frustrated that with all of his efforts to stop it, the mueller investigation is continuing. you add in the southern district of new york and the attorney general of new york, and i think

he is getting fearful of what they can discover in new york that we haven't even spoken about here in washington. >> but you know, we heard the president say in a sound bite earlier that this is what he did during the 2016 campaign. he went off the cuff. he's going off script, and it got him elected. do you think this the kind of rhetoric, this kind of style that will work again successfully for him in 2020? >> i think there's a core group of people who probably liked the language that he used yesterday that neither you nor i would want our children to hear, and most americans wouldn't want the president of the united states say the things he said in front of our children. but there is a group that loves that. i think they are going to be out there. but i am absolutely convinced that the overwhelming majority of americans don't like where we

are right now and where we're headed. they don't like all of the nasty leadership we're getting from the president of the united states. it's vulgar leadership. i think that we're going to find people backing away from president trump, especially those independents who wanted to try to tear up things in washington and put it back together in a more sensible way and that's not what's happening. >> democratic representative fr emanuel cleaver. >> we know the northeast is set for weather tonight, i'm glued to what we're supposed to get? >> this has traveled 2,000 miles in 24 hours and it's moving fairly quickly here. two sides to this system. you can see severe weather rolling across the deep south. potential for tornado warning to hit georgia. i'll keep my eye on that. let's talk about the cold side. this is what you want to know if

you're across the northeast. when do you need to be inside around that 7:00 to midnight hour you're going to see the bulk of that from philadelphia to new york, potential 4 to 6", continue to travel with the early morning commute from boston to portions of northern maryland. so this is a quick moving system, but it's going to drop significant snow on the warmer side we still have 16 million under severe weather risk throughout this afternoon from montgomery all the way into the southern portions of georgia. so keeping our eye on these heavy downpours and potential for some supercells developing. now, behind this system is that cold air blast. i know everyone is thinking about spring. do not get rid of your winter coat just yet. our air temperatures are well below normal only looking at 1 degree across portions of the upper midwest. alex. >> okay, janessa webb, thank you for all of that.

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you have to persuade enough of the opposition party voters, trump voters, that you're not just -- >> it's a very high bar. >> it is a high bar. you're not just trying to reverse the last election. we may not get there. >> chairman of the house judiciary committee jerry nadler on making the case for impeachment. joining me now, john harwood cnbc's editor-at-large. john, before we get to impeachment, i want to get your reaction to the list of document request by the house judiciary committee. some people include his son, chief financial whizzalen wildli -- whiz alen weisselberg, what does this signify to you? >> they are not bound by the

mueller report which will come out at some point soon and may or may not include a conspiracy charge that some people have been waiting for. when you look at the range of activities the president has been involved with that constitutes obstruction, they have decided there's no avoiding that pursuit. really, the question is, as the chairman said, do they clear the bar necessary to prosecute this case at the risk, as congressman cleaver told you a few minutes ago, of having an acquittal verdict in the senate? not clear. >> olivia, how does the white house plan to tackle all of these investigations heading its way? >> i don't think they have any clear, coherent plan to deal with this. they have not historically in the two years or almost 2 1/2 years he's been in office, they

haven't really had -- haven't been able to plan far out ahead. >> hang on a second. this is something that everybody is talking about. they have got to know it's coming. are you telling me they are putting their heads in the sand? >> i think their heads have been in the sand. i think they entered the white house that way. i don't think they put their heads there recently. i think it's very difficult to talk to the president about anything that is planning far out or strategically. he doesn't think that way. he's an instinctual person. this morning he was talking about presidential harassment. it's a phrase he's used before, since the midterms really. he's talking about democrats being out of ideas and just having to join this witch hunt against him. i think we'll hear that again and again and again. i can't imagine he'll have much more of a sophisticated way of dealing with this. >> can i ask given your interview with the president in the oval office, what was your

takeaway with how he approaches things in general. is it that they just don't plan? tell me. >> i think his advisers try to plan but he's very difficult to talk to. anyone who has spoken to him knows he kind of dictates how the conversation goes. he gets board very eagles sily. he wants to talk about things that excite him, sometimes that is the ways his presidency is harmed from the outside. sometimes he's animated by robert mueller or by james comey or anybody else in the news. i think he bounces around a lot and makes it difficult to sit down and plan with him. when i asked him about the investigations during the interview, he kind of dismissed it and said what he always says and didn't really seem to be thinking about it too deeply. when i talked to people currently in the white house or previously worked in the white house, they tell me this was totally unspoken, either because

people didn't want to increase their own legal visibility or because they didn't want to upset anybody else. they don't bring it up. it makes it difficult to address something if you can't talk about it openly with the princip principle. >> extraordinary. back to impeachment, i want to go a little further on that with you, john. you heard the chairman talk about the significance of public opinion. he has to bring at least some trump supporters on board. how challenging is this when it comes to the president's base. george stephanopoulos said this is a high bar. how impossible is it to clear. >> it's very high. 90% approval among republicans. don't forget back when richard nixon was in trouble in the early 1970s, republicans defended him right up to the very end. then when you had a critical mass and ultimately the exposure

of tapes the president tried to conceal, you had a shift. it's not impossible you could get not only republican support in the house but also some republican support in the senate. we don't know. it depends on events that haven't happened before. >> speaking of trump support, olivia, you were at cpac where the president gave that long speech. you wrote about it in your latest piece. talk about the crowd and the feel inside that arena? what struck you? >> as i wrote in the speech, i arrived too late to get my press credentials, so i watched it from the lobby with a group of women who left the speech early and seemed to be kind of wary of me as a reporter. >> did they think it was two hours long and that was a lot? >> they were sounded by their luggage, i don't want to say they just wanted to get out of there and beat the crowd. according to the report even

though the president said nobody left, if you can believe it, that is not true and people did, in fact, leave early. i'm running out of things to say about speeches even though this has the distinction of being the longest one he's given, it's the same thing over and over again. sometimes it's short, sometimes very long. sometimes he says things in a different order than he ordinarily says them. sometimes he says them with profanities thrown in yesterday but really it's the same thing over and over and over again. i don't have anything original to say. to go back to john's point before, i think that's an excellent point for when the tide turned for richard nicxon. as people made the comparison between howard dean, i kept thinking about the fact it was another month after he first testified before the committee learned there were tapes. at that point when he testified, it was his word against richard nixon's. a lot of people don't know who

to believe. it's important to remember these things take time. we might not know what the truth is for months and months if not a year. >> absolutely. john, before you go. i want to touch on what you did, you sat down with larry hoggon who is contemplating challenging the president in 2020. his father was the first to call for impeaching president nixon in 1974. let's play the clip of his dad. >> he consistently tried to cover up the evidence and obstruct justice. as much as it pains me to say it, he should be impeached and removed from office. >> does governor hogan see himself playing a similar role as his father did but playing it today in these politics. >> possibly. we'll see how this played out. we did see in the "wall street journal," despite the 90% approval with republicans, 37% of them said they would like to

see a primary challenger. because larry hogan is very popular as a blue state republican governor in maryland, many dissident republicans, combine that with his family history are leaning on him to get bo this race. i have to tell you, i ran into former defense secretary and republican senator cohen of maine here at nbc the other day, and he was recounting to me how dramatic it was when larry hogan senior broke with trump. bill cohen was actually the second to call for trump's impeachment. he said when hogan told his colleagues on the committee as a former fbi agent, a conservative that stuck with nixon every step of the way, they were shocked. that had a big effect. if you get something to happen in the process, that could affect abuse of power that jerry nadler is talking about but the course of impeachment and the course of what larry hogan decides to do with a primary

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about the supreme court decision a few years ago to take the teeth out of legislation and protect voters from voter suppression activity. take a look at how the candidate handle the issue here. >> the people that own america, the people who put hundreds of millions of dollars to elect candidates who represent the wealthy and the powerful, they know about the power of the vote. and it's our turn to demand that we end all voter suppression in this country. >> voting rights are always under attack. we know that they will stop at nothing to suppress the vote. why? because they are afraid of what we will do with the vote. >> the fight to protect our vote is not gathering the momentum and energy and passion it deserves, we have a lot of work to do, don't we?

>> alex, in my conversations traveling around the cup, this is a focus of for the just democrats here but democrats everywhere, something as we're going into 2019 and 2020 that's going to continue to be a focus. alex. >> no denying that. i think you're right. thanks very much for that. we have new words from the trump official who some say was used as a problem, republican representative mark meadows brought lynne patton to the hearing to defend against accusations of racism. >> you made some very difficult meaning comments about the president that miss patent doesn't agree with. has to do with your claim of racist. she says as the daughter of a man born in birmingham, alabama, there is no way she would work for an individual who was racist. >> patton herself into a long

time ago. take a listen. >> the only prop was michael cohen for the democratic party. what you seen happening is the classic racist double standard that a lot of minority conservatives face every day. i was attacked because i don't represent what their liberal narrative is of what a black woman should be. god forbid i was in that room on my own merit with my own opinion on somebody who i've known just as long as michael cohen has known the president. >> joining me now, president trump's 2020 advisory board, director of national diversity coalition for donald trump, welcome. it's good to see you. first i want to get to the michael cohen part where he was pretty direct, unequivocal, said donald trump was a racist and many were offended by lynne patton being used that way. >> first of all, know michael

cohen is lying. this the first time i've really come out and into about this. lynne patton is a family member of the trump family. that hurts to have another so-called friend get up there and tell a bald face lie making innuendos about the president of the united states. i've been here many, many times and defended the president. in 2015, the pastor and i started largest diversity history of the candidate, we've been in many rooms with him, talked to him, talked to many, many people over the years. for 40 years this president at the time he was regular citizen donald trump, from 40 years being on the tv shows and all the other shows and being all over the world, not one person said anything about him being a racist until he decides to run for president. >> bruce, may i ask you it's possible that is a public display and that when it's one-on-one and there are two people in the room, those being michael cohen and donald trump that michael cohen's

interception is accurate reflecting his relationship with the president and his private time with the president. >> no. >> you don't think michael cohen is telling anything the truth, he's making it all up. >> he's going to prison, alex. let's take it like this. this gentleman had an office, corner office, 26th floor overlooking fifth avenue. a blessing of the president chose him. he came and worked for the organization. he was hired to be the president's attorney. that's it. look at real estate deals, to handle the trump organization. he was not hired to do side deals. now, watch this, alex. the reason why he's in trouble, he was doing side deals. respectfully every one -- >> give -- >> the reason why he was hired -- he was hired to take care of the trump organization and not side deals and take money, pay to play. >> like what? >> the reason he's going to prison. >> stormy daniels, was he not hired to take money from stormy

daniels. why did he end up dealing with stormy daniels. >> because he as a lawyer made a decision, the president said he had nothing to do with stormy daniels. i have an attorney, every business owner has an accountant, an attorney. we rely on their expertise to make decisions. that particular organization is a billion dollar infrastructure. he has accountants on staff, lawyers on staff. he hires people to take care of business. michael cohen made a decision to do that on his own. the president did not direct him to do that. that is unfair. michael knows and he's trying to save himself and this is wrong, wrong, wrong. >> save himself from what? because he's going to prison? >> you heard he said in the prisons, if there's another deal, i'll take one if either going to get me off. he said that himself, alex. this is a travesty. the president went over to vietn vietnam, he closed a billion dollar deal. look at the jobs, great initiative, we haven't had a missile shot in close to 500

days. alex, they shot one every 24 days in the previous administration. >> right. >> can people just get along and realize this president is doing a great job negotiating. you know -- >> the president's trip to hanoi, you think everything is great, when the president was tweeting after the summit everything is fine and we can all rest well because there's not a nuclear threat from north korea, do you believe that's true? >> the record for itself. we haven't had any missiles shot. the interesting thing, when he first went there to singapore, they opened up an ipad and showed a rendering. he told kim jong-un, listen, why don't you build something here. build your business. remember, kim jong-un is the first dictator to leave outside. his dad never left. he came to singapore and took the train to vietnam. so the deals are on the table. all i said psi, american people, trust the president. he knows how to negotiate. that's his gift. the record speaks for itself, alex, you can't deny it.

>> let's take a listen, getting back to the exchange and hearing on wednesday. here is a part of what happened between democratic representative rashida and mark meadows, take a listen. >> the fact someone would use a prop, a black woman in this chamber, in this committee, is alone racist in itself. >> it's racist to suggest i asked her to come in here for that reason. my nieces and nephews are people of color. >> as a person of color in this committee that's how i felt at that moment and i wanted to express that. i am not calling the gentleman, mr. meadows, a racist, for doing so. i'm saying in itself it is a racist act. >> do you at all understand why the representative as a woman of color felt compelled to speak out? do you respect that? >> no, absolutely not.

lynne patton is a woman who makes her own decision. michael cohen can look up there and say, really, should i really be lying about this? it has nothing to do with props. this was a friendship back in the day. the reason why we're here where we are right now, alex, michael cohen, he did other things he was not supposed to do. he started doing side deals and got jammed up by mueller. now he's going to prison. had he done the job as the president hired him to be, he would not be sitting in that chair, going to prison. that's the fact. everyone -- >> let me ask you one last question here, can i ask you this, wasn't michael cohen began those, sat on national diversity coalition for trump, did he start that? >> it was pastor darryl and myself. he was invited in because he wanted to be jewish americans for trump, his father was a

holocaust survivor. he tried to find -- >> he was part of it, though, michael cohen was. >> yes. >> just want to be clear because we got some information on that. bruce, before i let you go, i want to say thank you for being here. i know today is a difficult time for you. i know your father is in the hospital. i very much appreciate you coming and talking to us. our thoughts and prayers are with you and him that everything is going okay. i know he's having a tough time. >> thanks. thanks for having me. thank you. >> rallying around the republican, the vast majority of republicans standing by their man. the vast majority of republicans standing by their man. at midas, with every oil change you get a free tire rotation.

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well, the president's epically long speech still reverberati reverberating. let's bring in don callaway, adrian, former director of strategic -- not saying strategic here, we know somebody else that did that -- strategic for clinton campaign and chairwoman amy. do you think it's in response to the tough week the two plus hours as he said by himself, he went off script. >> youalex, it was almost like was having an internal therapy session in front of the cpac audience and how many are watching it live on television. it was clearly it was a tough week for him.

his attorney who knows where all the bodies are buried spilled the beans and dished in front of congress on wednesday. you can tell he's panicked. he was trying to go back to his comfort zone and deliver red meat to a base that stuck with him through difficult times. it was incoherent, delusional, he rambled on and on. that was a result of the week he had. >> i have to go to amy to ask, is this what you wanted to hear from the president? do you agree it was rambling and incoherent at times if this is what his base wants, the red meat, if you will, why? >> for several reasons, i don't think he was panicking. there was rambling going on, that's for sure. it definitely hit a lot of bullet points for his base. we've got a number of democrats jumping in for the 2020 race. it seems this was the perfect time to get his base rallied up, ready to go. i think he did that.

despite what you may feel or think about the president, he gave a tremendous speech. it was two hours and two minutes. i called him the energizer bunny. i didn't know when it was going to stop. it was fun for me. >> was it fun to watch? >> it was fun to watch. for me it was fun to watch because it was so bizarre. i like to talk. i think all of us on this panel do. i don't know anything i could stand and talk two hours about. i have nothing to say that that's important. cpac involved into this weird carnival, not really about the issues of the day, the president had a terrible week but he can go to this pep rally and people will love him regardless. we all need our personal cpac. >> let's go to some numbers here, those offered by nbc news "wall street journal" poll which found 88% of republicans approve

of the president. is this president really the most popular president among republicans or are we in a different era of politics, amy. >> i do believe this president is so popular and so well liked amongst republicans because he's not politically correct. this is something many people have been tired of for decades. it didn't matter. you could go back to the bushes and people were still tired of it. this guy tells it like it is. he makes a promise he keeps. this is good for the president. but we do have to keep in mind that polls are just a quick snapshot of what's going on. in the 2012 race here in the state of nevada, it showed that romney was going to be winning our state and he lost by 7% in november to then president obama. so we just need to take it one day add a time. >> i'm curious, adrian, do you think democrats are worried about donald trump in 2020, given his performance at cpac, the rousing applause and supports and shouts in the crowd? >> yes, alex, i think democrats are worried about donald trump.

they are worried about defeating donald trump. that's exactly what should be happening. we should not set back on our laurels. this this was not good for him, donald trump. he has done nothing to expand his base during his presidency. so this was a bad poll for president trump, but again democrats have to take him very seriously and certainly we learned from 2016 you cannot take anything for granted. >> ladies, good to see both of you. don, i want you to stay with me. we'll talk about a much more personal story and how the last time you, don, were on the show you heard something that literally saved your life. all of you will want to hear this too. all of you will want tr this too 't fit right. they were too loose. it's getting in the way of our camping trips. but with a range of sizes, depend® fit-flex is made for me. with a range of sizes for all body types, depend® fit-flex underwear is guaranteed to be your best fit. for all body types, thanksmrs. murphy. unitedhealthcare, hi, i need help getting an appointment with my podiatrist.

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doubled over in bed. my wife on goth on the phone and immediately and called 911. >> i want to bring don callaway back in and here is why. you were watching that and appearing on the broadcast like you did. you were sitting down in d.c., i think. >> i was. >> you were looking at your phone and perked up with your ears and you listened. >> i'm usually not always paying attention to the next segment, but i saw this unfamiliar voice. and true main was saying hes he's 38, i'm 39. young kids. i just listened to his story and dismissed it and didn't think another thing about it. then that was sunday afternoon, i guess. two days later, tuesday evening, i'm putting my kids to bed after our nightly wrestling session. i'm thoroughly undefeated in that, my two sons. i walked around for an hour feeling like i pulled a muscle in my chest area. and stretched for a bit. cleaned up the kitchen. and i laid down and just it felt exactly like described.

it didn't hurt. like someone was inflating a ball. constricting my ability to breathe. immediately started sweating. had it been midday i probably would have walked around and did nothing. i decided to not go to sleep and i had not watched the segment, i would have gone to bed and thought nothing of it and probably not woken up. so -- >> you had a heart attack. >> i was having -- i suspected i was only because i had watched the segment. >> you felt that. >> exactly. >> you got to a hospital. >> got to a hospital. >> they confirmed it. >> right away they confirmed it. intake nurse looked at it. within ten minutes i had the youngest, fresh-faced g.w. hospital had to offer, called in a surgeon and i was well taken care of, out of there in a few days. it was indeed a heart attack and because i watched your segment that i knew what was going on. >> dear gosh. >> so. >> i want to tell you that trumane wants to send a message.

i'm so glad to hear you made it through, don. welcomes to is survival club. thank you to lift our voices. this is why we do what we do. >> thank you to my brother. i hope to get to meet some day soon. thank you for lifting up his story. my friend, thank you so much. i appreciate you. >> thank you, don kal layway. we'll be right back, everyone. stay with us. one. stay with us with a specialized guard designed to reduce it. because we believe all men deserve a razor just for them. the best a man can get. gillette. i can choose from all their different hotel brands... like a doubletree for my cousins. a homewood suites for my uncle. a hampton for my sister and her kids. and the waldorf astoria beverly hills for me. can i get a..? thank you. book at hilton.com and get the hilton price match guarantee.

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