anniversary of its iconic, bloody sunday today. and later in the show, i talk to congressman john lewis about the difference between then and now. because even with selma, there was a hopeful trajectory out of it. one that ultimately led to government action in defense of black voting rights. but tonight i can say the government has failed spectacularly in two cases. whether human rights of unarmed black people went thoroughly undefended, terence crutcher, shot and killed in 2016 during a traffic incident in tulsa, oklahoma. the justice department announced friday that no civil rights charges will be filed against the police officer that killed him on camera. and stephon clark, shot numerous times in march of last year in his grandmother's backyard in

sacramento, california, where the district attorney announced yesterday that, again, no criminal charges to be filed against two officers involved. and ju in just a few minutes, i'll speak with the families and lawyers in both cases. but talking about race and justice at the top of this week, we heard from michael cohen, president trump's former fixer and right-hand man, corroborating to congress what marginalized communities have known for the last three years. he said the president was a racist. i agree. and while i'm not blaming the president for what happened in the crutcher and clark cases, this week i am adding that his racism, coupled with rhetoric, is channelling the worst american traditions and cosigning outcomes just like these. but back to politics for now, folks. because michael cohen goes back

before the house intelligence committee for another closed hearing on wednesday, and that is where we start tonight. joining me now, scherr michael singleton, former deputy of ben carson. campaign director for the center of american progress action fund, and glen kerschner, former federal prosecutor and an msnbc legal analyst. shermichael, let me start with you. the president's lawyer, and who he called a person like a son to him, said he's a racist, a con man and a fixer. yet the republicans on the oversight committee that he was testifying before kept trying to discredit him. none of them really questioned his racism, him being a con man. >> sure. >> and him being a cheat.

is the republican party ducking this? or are they going to have to deal with this? >> of course they're ducking it. and i wasn't surprised at all by the maneuvering that we did see from my side. i mean, the reality is, a lot of these folks behind closed doors, and i'm sure you've heard this yourself, despise president trump. they will say that all of the time. but they recognize the political implications of publicly speaking out against him. so what do they do? we know michael cohen is going to prison for lying. so they attempt to tack the legitimacy of his statements based upon what he was ultimately convicted of. yet while not addressing what he was stating about the president's character, all things that have been on display since the president has been in office. >> juanita, but at the political point, i can understand or at least i can hear. but the fact is they're choosing personal politics over leaving

the country in the hands of someone that they did not question whether he's a racist, a con man or a cheat. i mean, michael cohen is going to jail. but what about the millions of americans left that they didn't even question whether there is some validity to a man that he worked for, donald trump, for ten years. we wouldn't even know michael cohen if it wasn't for donald trump. this is his choice. and questioned the real substance of his testimony. >> not at all. and they segloss right over it. it really highlights the fact this is the first time that the trump administration is being held accountable by a democratic-led congress. this is not like the investigation led by representative nunez, who worked on trump's transition team, which is also under investigation, or even like the investigation led by senator burra in the senate side, who worked on trump's campaign, which is also under investigation. this is what happens when you

have cummings really leading the charge here and flanked by strong actors like representative iyanna pressley, alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> the house intel committee plans to question trump organization cfo allen weisselberg and real estate developer, felix sater. the house financial services committee will investigate whether trump exaggerated his wealth to get bank loans and lower his insurance premiums. and his trump foundation. and the house ways and means committee will investigate trump's tax returns. glen, what kind of legal exposure does this give to the president? >> you know, rev, he has got legal exposure on so many fronts. whether it is his fake charitable organization, his

continuing criminal enterprise of the trump organization, whether it is an inauguration run amok, it looks like, taking illegal, foreign donations and doling out or promising goodness knows what to those people who donated. and it's his presidency. you know, when we put together criminal investigations and prosecutions, it's like assembling a puzzle, where no one piece of the puzzle shows the entire picture. but once that puzzle is assembled, it shows a pretty compelling picture of a president and an organization and an administration that has just sort of run roughshod over the rule of law. and if we had more time, we could actually sort of assemble that puzzle and go through all of the different facts and circumstances that make it clear that this president has no

respect for the rule of law, and i think justice is coming, and i think bob mueller, when he issues his report, when he returns what i am certain will be a large conspiracy indictment based on what he finds with respect to campaign and russian collusion, i think everything will come home to roost. >> when you say return a large indictment, do you think that would include the president? can you indict a sitting president? >> i think, rev, we have to revisit the wisdom of the department of justice policy memo by the office of legal counsel that says you can't or shouldn't indict a sitting president for a couple of reasons. one, the constitution doesn't prohibit it. two, there's no law that prohibits indicting a sitting president. three, and perhaps most importantly, rev, think about this hypothetical, which in another time might sound crazy. but i think it's appropriate

under the circumstances of what we're contending with today. if this president were to bribe, coerce or persuade 34 senators to vote against removal after the president was impeached by the house, he bribes 34 senators, so that the senate can't reach the requisite two-thirds to convict and remove, the olc memo says, tough luck, america. nothing you can do about it, because you can't indict a sitting president. that must be revisited. >> shermichael, let me get back to race for a minute. listen to what former trump aide omarosa, said on our show last night. you and michael cohen both have called the president a racist. why? >> we can look at his track record of what he said and when he's done. michael cohen was correct in his assessment, because he had a very intimate relationship with him. as i did. and on the receiving end of the

most disgusting racial slur when he called me a dog. >> how do you respond to omarosa and others calling the president a racist? >> look. i know omarosa, and i take her at her word. i'm reminded of something a conservative actually political philosopher, sir roger scruton wrote two or three years ago, everything is imperfect. but what can be reformed and what can be amended, but what must be thrown away all together. and as we look at the state of race relations in our country, i think, again, and i think donald trump has reminded us, and can you talk a lot about this. there are a lot of things in this country that we have to address. we cannot continue to turn a blind eye. we cannot continue to sweep them under the rug. we must, again, throw those things away, no pun intended to mr. scruton's quote. so i think donald trump's presidency gives this country an opportunity to really see who we

really are. we like to purport we're this great country that's open to diversity. we want all different types of folks from all over the world to be here. yet our actions don't indicate that. not just for african-americans, but for people of muslim faith, for folks who are hispanic, folks part of the lgbtq community. that is not the type of society that i think most americans want. and i think as we continue to go forward, it's going to be more difficult for the republican party to stand behind donald trump. why? because a great majority of the country is saying this is not who we are. >> juanita, we saw that congressman meadows stood lynn patton up, who is a hud official, saying she was there to say that the president is not a racist. now, she could not speak, because she was not a witness called. she couldn't go to the microphone with meadows. she is not a member of congress. so she was there, basically, as a prop, as many of us have said. >> exclusively as a prop. >> that's what i wanted to ask you. do you view her as a prop?

because she seems to be saying otherwise. let me show you what she said on her show this morning. >> the only prop in that room was michael cohen for the democratic party. and what you see happening the last week is the classic racist double standard that a lot of minority conservatives face every day. you know, i was attacked because i don't represent what their liberal narrative is of what a black woman should be. god forbid i was in that room on my own merit, with my own opinion on somebody who i've known just as long as michael cohen has known the president. >> but she was attacked because she stood there and couldn't say anything, couldn't do anything. no one was attacking her before that because she was a conservative. >> exactly. >> shermichael is a conservative, and we're not attacking him. she stood there. she was a prop. >> she allowed herself to be used here. and it was really unfortunate that she put herself in that

position. what i find also stemming from her appearance there is the blow back that representatives felt. the fact that she called out that meadows' action was racist is accurate. and the fact that he had his massive blowup of even hearing that word associated himself was revealing as well. coming from a representative who made racist statements about the previous president, president obama, and finding this birther -- advancing this birtherism before, it's really something that i think people need to take note of and not ignore. so shoutout to representative tlaib for calling it like she saw it. >> thank you all. coming up next, congressman and civil rights leader, john lewis, reflects on the historic selma bridge march 54 years ago, and the threats to equality and human rights in this country that he still sees today. still y ♪

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> today marks the 54th anniversary of bloody sunday. some 600 civil rights advocates crossed the bridge on march 7th, 1965. at the starting point of a statewide march to press for black voting rights. leading the demonstrators on that fateful day, 25-year-old

john lewis, the leader of the student nonviolent coordinating committee, along with josa williams of sclc. his skull was fractured, horrifying the nation and ultimately spurring congress to pass the voting rights act. well, this weekend, 17-term congressman, john lewis, led several lawmakers in commemorating lives lost during the movement before making his own march across the pettis bridge. i caught up with him ahead of all of the observations to ask him about the progress and the problems we face in this age of trump. >> reverend, thank you so much for having me on. i tell you, i feel grateful that we have come such a distance, made so much progress 55 years

later. i tell you, in spite of all of the changes and in spite of the progress they're trying to take us back to another time, to another period. but i'm gratified to see so many members of color. not just african-american, but hispanic, asian-american, so many women. we have two natuive american women in congress for the first time in the history of our country. so the bloodshed, the beating, the suffering in selma was worth it. >> you have led this with the martin luther king type of spirit of love and reconciliation. yet we heard this week the president's former lawyer, michael cohen, testified before

congressional committee that he is a racist and there's been, of course, the blackface scandal and any number of things. does this discourage you after all you've seen that we're still wrestling with these kinds of graphic images of racism? >> well, i must say, reverend, i dislike, despise racism, bigotry and hate, putting people down, because of the color of their skin or where they come from. and i will not give up. i will not give in. i will keep the faith. i will keep my eyes on the prize. during the height of the civil rights movement, i was beaten, arrested. but even some of the people that beat me and left me bloody, left me unconscious, they came and said i'm sorry, will you forgive me. and i had the ability, like dr.

king and others, to forgive people. we hugged. and we made up. and that's what we must continue to do. do what we can to redeem the soul of america and create the beloved community. >> one of the things that you really struggled decades later, you literally led a sit-in, in the well of congress and many congress people joined you around the issue of gun control and the issue of guns. this week, the house passed probably the most impactful gun reform legislation that we have seen. what did you think about that and do you have hopes the senate will also pass this legislation? >> well, i'm so pleased that we did pass a meaningful piece of legislation to do something

about the proliferation of guns and gun violence. the sit-in of a few years ago, almost every single democratic member of the house participated. and members of the senate, democratic members of the senate, came over and joined us. so this is a great step. this is a significant step. it is my hope, it is my prayer, that the senate will follow us. >> last sunday, you came to the academy awards, and you came on stage and were given a standing ovation. and i watched that as many of us, as you know, struggled the last several years for inclusion in the academy awards. my mentor, reverend jesse jackson, started that years ago. we kind of picked it up. how did you feel standing there with the captains of cinema, standing up and applauding you. it's a long way from you lying bloody on the edmond pettis bridge to be standing in

hollywood and the industry that gives the cultural interpretation of this country, saluting you and for the first time including a large group of nominees of color? >> i was very moved. at one point, i almost cried. when people stood and cheered, and even as i was walking down the red carpet, people stood and they cheered. not just cheering me, but cheering a movement. cheering the legacy, the history of a movement. the freedom rides, the sit-ins, the march on washington, the march from selma to montgomery. saying in effect, we made progress, but we still have a long road to travel. and that's what we must do. >> one of the things that i have observed and i have sat in rooms with you with president obama,

our first black president, and some of us that a generation under and then those that are generations under me. and you have always admonished us and those younger than us to remain nonviolent and operate with the love ethic. on this anniversary weekend, what do you tell young americans that want to help finish making america what it should and could be? >> i will continue to say this weekend to young people to never become bitter, never hate, as dr. king said. hate is too heavy a burden to bear. and to never give up. to keep the faith, and keep our eyes on the prize. >> congressman john lewis, a true icon and a weekend that you paid a price. and because of that, we have seen so many, including a black

president and now 55 members of congress of color. it started on that edmond pettis bridge in selma. my thanks again to congressman john lewis. and a note, in one month time the national action network will gather civil rights activists, stakeholders and 2020 presidential candidates for the 28th annual national convention to examine the state of civil liberties and racial justice today. among the speakers and panelists, 2020 presidential candidates, senators cory booker, kirsten gillibrand, kamala harris, amy klobuchar, and congressman john delaney and andrew yang and other notables, such as stacy abrams, valerie jarrett, eric holder and representatives karen bass, lucy mcbath, gregory meets and

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as i mentioned earlier, i've livid tonight that on this weekend that we commemorate the suffering in selma 54 years ago, the value of black lives is still debatable in the eyes of the law. on friday, the justice department announced that it will not prosecute former tulsa, oklahoma, police officer, betty shelby, for civil rights violations in the 2016 shooting death of terence crutcher. and on saturday, sacramento, california, district attorney ann marie shubert announced that her office would not be pursuing criminal charges against two officers involved in the shooting death of stephon clark in march of last year. in both cases, the officers

responsible maintained they thought the suspects posed an imminent threat. in the case of crutcher, shelby's lawyers maintained she thought he was reaching into his vehicle to retrieve a weapon. but lawyers for crutcher's family say the car's window was closed. and with clark, the two officers were on record as having thought he was reaching for a weapon before they shot him. a justification cited by shubert in her decision. despite the object in question being revealed to be a cell phone. i've gotten to know the families of both men, and they will join me, our legal representatives, live, when we come back. don't go anywhere. don't go anywhere. i wanna keep doing what i love,

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there's no question that a human being died. but when we look at the facts in the law, and we follow our ethical responsibilities, we will not charge these officers with any criminal liability related to the shooting death and the use of force on stephon clark. >> sacramento county district attorney ann marie schobert announcing the two officers who shot and killed stephon clark last march have used lethal force. this is one day after the justice department decided not to pursue charges in a different case against a police officer in

oklahoma who shot and killed unarmed motorist, terence crutcher, during a traffic stop. two different cases, two unarmed black americans dead. joining me now from tulsa, oklahoma, dr. tiffany crutcher, the twin sister of terrence, and the family of simmons, and civil rights attorney, benjamin crump, who is the attorney for the clark family. let me start with this -- with you, attorney crump. i got the call from the grandmother of stephon clark yesterday when this announcement was made, and she couldn't join you today, because she is now hospitalized >> yes, sir. and it's so unfortunate, reverend al, because in her backyard is where he was executed. and when the d.a. rendered the verdict -- her decision, it was

overwhelming for miss saquita, and she had to be rushed to the hospital, so we're asking for everybody's prayers for the family, especially miss saquita, as she struggles with her health. >> absolutely. let me say this. you and i worked on several civil rights cases. and we do not say people had to be convicted one way or another, but it should not die in the prosecutor's office. one of the reasons i'm so outraged about sacramento, they didn't even bring this to a grand jury. this was a decision made by the d.a. >> absolutely. and reverend al, we are asking for due process and equal justice. we're not asking for anything special. and when you think about what this d.a. did in trying to justify these officers killing steffon, it was outrageous. not only do you assassinate the black man's character, but she took it to a whole new level, reverend al, suggesting this

suicide by cop theory that is so bogus. but if you believe her, then steffon should have all eight bullets to the front. and we know that most of the bullets out of the eight shots came to his back. but she didn't talk about that in her hour-long press conference, because that doesn't fit the narrative. >> now, let me go to you, dr. tiffany. this was your twin brother. i've been out there with you and your family. you have raised over and over again these laws need to be changed. there was videotape of what happened with your brother. >> yes, sir, reverend al. thank you so much for having us. it's just frustrating to get that call and meet with the u.s. attorneys and department of justice and for them to tell me that there was not enough evidence to bring charges. it was like another shot fired when we know that betty shelby shot him with his hands in the

air. and what's happening is that, you know, they assassinate the character of the dead like attorney crump stated, but they never look at the killer cops that they're unleashing on to our communities. betty shelby had a violent past. betty shelby actually had warrants against her or restraining orders. and child abuse charges. and all these things. but yet the tpd hired her anyway, and she should have never had a weapon. and i just feel that if the city of tulsa would have done their due diligence, my brother would be alive today and the city of sul at th tulsa and mayor binam continues to fight us. we're just frustrated and we're upset all over again. and these laws, they have to change, because these laws allow police officers to commit legal murder. >> officer -- i'm sorry, attorney simmons, civil rights

charges, federal. what is required by law in terms of civil rights charges that you felt met the standard here and should have proceeded at least to a federal grand jury and federal trial? >> absolutely, reverend al. number one, you have to show that what she did was objectively unreasonable. and we believe that shooting a man with his hands in the air who was unarmed, at a safe distance, not posing an imminent threat, who is not looked for -- committed a crime. we think shooting a man in that situation is completely unreasonable. that's number one. and number two, to have to prove that it was willful. she willfully violated his civil rights. i believe that she -- because she testified she shot him on purpose, that, in fact, she testified that terrence made her shoot him. he basically was responsible for his death. so i believe she has the willful intent in her mind to shoot him.

and that's why we are so disappointed, and we disagree with the decision of the department of justice. we are very disappointed, but unfortunately, reverend al, we are not surprised. because we know terrence goes on a list of tamir rice and so many other -- philando castillo, eric garner, which you have done so much great work on. all of these individuals, unarmed black men, have been killed and yet our federal government does not come in and hold anyone accountable. and if our federal government cannot hold unarmed individuals who are shot with their hands up on video, if they can't vindicate those civil rights, what civil rights can they vindicate? >> attorney crump, this issue keeps coming up. we have fought it for years. we saw in chicago a conviction. every once in a while, we'll see an indictment. but the laws need to be changed. should that be a central issue in the 2020 presidential elections and the elections about the laws on policing? >> absolutely. and we should pose that question

to all of the candidates. i know at the national action network convention, they're going to be there. if i get an opportunity to engage with them, i'm going to show them the pictures of stephon clark, of tamir rice, cory jones' trial is going on now in palm beach right now. >> in florida. >> stand your ground for police officers, reverend al. we can't get any relief from department of justice. now we turn to national action network and other civil rights groups to try to help these families. and that's why we always are thankful to you, reverend al. >> and, again, we're not coming to conclusions. we fought for trayvon and had to get it to court. once we got to court, didn't like the verdict, but dealt with the verdict. but you're talking here where it never even got to court, dr. crutcher. and where they won't even give a jury of the peers the evidence and let them decide. that's what we're talking about

here. >> i'm talking to dr. crutcher, the sister. >> absolutely. absolutely. and it's definitely a concern. and i'm with you. i'm going to be at the national action network convention, asking the presidential candidates, is this a priority for you, because we're in a state of emergency right now as it relates to our black men being slaughtered on the streets. and i'm so thankful to the legal defense fund who will be in tulsa this week helping us hold the city of tulsa accountable and demanding that certain reforms are implemented within tulsa's police department, who has a history of racially biased policing. so we have a lot of work to do, and, you know -- >> we must continue to work. attorney crump, one of the things that in california is the state attorney general is supposed to be looking in. >> yeah. >> do you have any confidence in his investigation? >> the democratic attorney general has been very dogmatic

in saying that the policies have to change. and also he did an investigation into the -- killing of stephon clark on march 18th. we're going to have a press conference on the capital. i believe he's either going to join us or he's going to be there in his office to release his findings. >> on march 18th. >> march 18th, the one-year anniversary. i know they're going to close down the city of sacramento. >> all right. thank you, dr. tiffany crutcher and attorneys salman-simmons and benjamin crump. >> thank you, reverend al. we appreciate you. . >> next, the chair ousted over the hacked dnc e-mails will be here to tell us why she thought michael cohen was telling the truth. be right back. the truth. be right back. introducing the all new chevy silverado. it's the official truck of calloused hands and elbow grease. the official truck of getting to work, and getting to work. it's the official truck of homecoming, and coming home.

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my testimony. >> and that he shared that outcome. >> yes, ma'am. >> congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, the former dnc chair, who was ousted over hacked dnc e-mails, questions michael cohen on his eyewitness claim that trump knew that dnc hacked in advance, and it was her very precise and effective questioning that laid the groundwork to have ivanka, donald jr., eric and jared be part of possible future hearings, depositions and investigations. joining me now is democratic congresswoman of florida, debbie wasserman schultz. congresswoman, as one that took a brunt of a lot of criticism over the dnc e-mails, as you questioned him, what was going through your mind? >> what was going through my mind, reverend al, is that the days -- we want to make clear that the days of the trump

administration facing zero accountability for their corruption and their deception are over. and making sure that we can get to the bottom of the allowance of a foreign adversary to interfere in the could you teou elections is absolutely essential so we can prevent it from ever happening again. >> there were the attacks from your republican colleagues on the credibility of michael cohen. you believe michael cohen why? >> well, i believe michael cohen because a number of the things that he told us are checkable. i mean, he indicated in his answers to my questions, for example, that it was likely that -- particularly because the lies about the trump tower in moscow being executed and negotiated during the campaign, and that ivanka and don jr. and jared could be compromised as a

result of their involvement, those are all things that we can bring them in for or ask them for written testimony or private testimony and check on those. so -- and he pulled his punches. there were a number of times when he could have really gone in the way that a questioner might have wanted but he didn't do that. that's why i felt he was being truthful. he has a lot to lose for not being truthful as well, reverend al. >> you went into another area where this week you're questioning the classification of top clearance of jared kushner. tell us what is your position there and what you hope to achieve. >> well, my position has been since last year when i filed amendments to revoke jared kushner's security clearance in the appropriations committee is that nepotism should never

override national security. and that we now know as of a couple of days ago with "the new york times" and now "washington post" reports is exactly what happened. you have our national security professional experts who recommended that jared kushner not get a top secret security clearance and he was given one anyway. and who was he given that security clearance by? his father-in-law. that's -- i mean, then you had ivanka just a couple of weeks ago say that that didn't happen when it did. and the president himself said he had no involvement. so i'll file legislation next week called the white house security clearance accountability act that will make sure that if you are under foreign investigation for involvement with a foreign adversary, if you have lied on your security clearance application then your clearance would be revoked and it would prohibit people in those categories from getting a security clearance if they work in the white house as well. >> now, we are told that there

were memos in writing by both chief of staff john kelly and the general counsel to the white house documenting that the debate about jared kushner's getting this classification and that in fact the president insisted on this, his father in law. >> that's right. because apparently both the chief of staff john kelly and the general counsel white house counsel mcgann recommended against giving -- giving jared kushner those security clearances. and that they should agree with the white house advisers who are the experts in granting that clearance. and, you know, reverend al, that lines up with my question of michael cohen, which was that was it possible that jared kushner, don jr. and ivanka were compromised given their involvement in the trump tower

deal through the campaign when president trump and they lied about that involvement. and so that makes me concerned and suspicious that this was a part of the reason that the white house security clearance experts advised against him getting it. and we have been asking on the overnight committee, chairman cummings has been asking for the white house to give us information about how those security clearance has been granted and they have been ignoring those requests. chairman cummings has now given the white house until monday to comply with those requests, allow us to interview witnesses related to the granting of that security clearance and if we don't get it then i assume the chairman is going to take the next steps. >> so he's given them until monday and you are coming with legislation this week about the security clearance of jared kushner. >> that's right. >> all right. >> because this is very serious and we can't -- we have to make sure that nepotism doesn't trump security -- national security so

to speak. >> pun intended. thank you, congresswoman wasserman schultz. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. up next, my final thoughts stay with us at midas, with every oil change you get a free tire rotation. makes you feel like a king! king for a day! well, maybe not the whole day. our 19.99 or 49.99 oil change includes a tire rotation.

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want more from your entejust say teach me more. into your xfinice remote to discover all sorts of tips and tricks in x1. can i find my wifi password? just ask. [ ding ] show me my wifi password. hey now! [ ding ] you can even troubleshoot, learn new voice commands and much more. clean my daughter's room. [ ding ] oh, it won't do that. welp, someone should. just say "teach me more" into your voice remote and see how you can have an even better x1 experience. simple. easy. awesome. when the march across edmund pettus bridge happened 54 years ago today, i was 9 years old. but i grew up hearing stories of my mother was born in the south and i was born and raised in brooklyn, new york. talk about how she couldn't vote

in her home down of alabama. i remember going many years for the commemoration march, would have been there today other than weather. and i remember one of the proudest moments was when i walked across that bridge thinking of my mother who had died three years before that. as i walked with the president of the united states who was a black man, elected because of the voting rights act enabled a lot of people to be able to vote. and as i stood there with john lewis and others with the president, we thought about how the struggle had to continue. they were starting then with voter i.d. laws and other means of voter suppression. here we are now 54 years later. north carolina, ninth congressional district showing the kind of tricks played. georgia what happened in the stacey abrams race and florida and other races. so the securing the right to vote without any impediments is

something we still struggle with, 54 years later. on top of that, the criminal justice system where we still see we can't even get into court with things that clearly seem to be questionable that a jury should decide and not be done by politics or other measures in a prosecutor's office. that's why we say our lives must matter equal to everyone else. so the struggle continues not just for blacks, but for all americans. if we're going to live up to the creed this country set, a creed that dr. king talked about in '63's march on washington, this is a defining moment for this country on how we come to terms with this. no one would have thought when i marched across that bridge behind john lewis and barack obama that a donald trump would be president spewing out the kind of polarization and spewing

out the kind of lack of accountability on racial justice that he has shown. but that is why you don't stop marching. you don't stop talking. you don't prejudge anything. but you don't stop it from proper judgment. that does it for me. thanks for watching. see you back here next saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern. until then, keep the conversation going. like us on facebook.com/politics nation and follow us on twitter. up next, "meet the press" with chuck todd. this sunday, battle lines. michael cohen tells congress what he thinks of president trump. >> he's a racist. he is a con man and he is a cheat. >> and provides new areas for investigators to look at from jared and ivanka to mr. trump's tax returns. republicans attack cohen. >> you lied. >> he lies. >> you are a liar. >> liar, liar, pants on fire. >> and president trump tells a conservative conference what he thinks of all of the investigators.

>> and all of a sudden they're