still many many mysteries about what we're going to be allowed the wikileaks energized him. to see and what we're not. >> you're all national and he say that's william bar is treasures, to my guests, thank not going to look at this report you all for watching, that does to decide what is privileged and it for our hour "mtp daily" what is not. is that because he had a starts now with katy tur. conversation and he is talking >> stop being so nice to me, the president's answers from it's making me uncomfortable. >> just look at twitter. reporters that have been asking him over and over. >> that's true. >> not you, me. >> it sounds like the latter, he >> that will take me down a said although the president notch very easily. happy friday to you, if it is would have the right to have friday we just got a letter. privilege, he stated that he intends to defare to me, but they didn't cue in on this, i know that we're pressing nbc in the pool today, we said ask them i'm katy tur in here for about that very fact and he didn't bite on it. >> it is interesting, he went after jeff sessions so much, he chuck todd. has been on the record saying in the last 90 minute, bill barr his attorney general should be updated congress on a number of someone that protects him. issues about mueller's report. he thinks eric holder protected

expect a public version of the mueller report very soon. the him. the fact that he is not going after bill barr, that will open some doors to a lot of he said i'm it anticipate we will be in a position to release allegations that the president the we port by mid-april, if not picked someone that he knew would district hem. >> i think that is true, sooner, barr also says he will democrats will pick on a lot of be available to testify before things here, we knew it before, the senate and house judiciaryay perhaps, is that the special 2nd, buckle up for that. council is helping in this we're going to speak with a member of the house judiciary process. and for those democrats and committee in just a moment. others paying attention at home that have been embracing the barr also goes out of his way to note that the white house will not have an opportunity to integrity of robert mueller, i redact portions of mueller's report. here is perhaps the most important part of his letter, it is the section about what we are think that should satisfy them to some degree. this report, as we know is now not going to be able to see in mueller's report. 400 pages long. we have only seen, and i counted and barr appears to be setting the original summary today, 100 expectations that there could be plus words of it so far. there is more to be seen. a lot of material redacted by >> william barr took issue with the justice department. that includes material related the idea that it was a summary of the entire report. pete williams, thank you as

to the mueller grand jury. material that could affect well. let's turn to some league ongoing investigations, and perhaps more cryptically, expere experts, greg bower and dan material that could infringe on the privacy or reputational interests of peripheral third danny sevales. parties, so what in the world >> i don't think letter could have been better especially in does that mean. let's join in, joining me now comparison to sunday's letter that i thought was ill advised pete williams and with me onset and caused a lot of confusion. is peter alexander. this letter has something for everyone. can you help us understand what the ag commits to giving the that means, peripheral third parties. >> that means people not report quickly, and appears on capitol hill, and there is no plan for the white house to do a privileged review. i think this is a better charged, and this is in pmpl with long standing policy. communication from the ag. it will satisfy a lot of those so if is investigated for a speculating and criticizing for the last few days, the devil krum but is not charges, the policy is you don't talk about will be in the details, but i that in public but that was such thought it was a good communication. >> how do you expect to see from this letter? >> from the mueller report.

400 pages. >> barr says there are 400 pages but that is exclusive of a outliar that is now how they handle these things, it is exhibits and other things, i interesting to me he doesn't say expect those will be significant as well. noncharged individuals, he says don't think this barr letter is as deferential to the president as some are saying. peripheral third parties. he says the president has the they may show that some shots right to assert privilege. were investigators, but he doesn't say that the president would be correct in asserting privilege or that it undoubtedly, i would assume that would be granted. is what they're talking about. there is a strong argument that >> people not charges, that is anything submitted loses it's everybody. nobody was charged in this. privilege right away. the other part of that personal paul manafort, gates, flynn, privacy issue, it is long been the law under the freedom of information act that the doj would redact information that papadopulous. but you're point is really well would, unwarranted or unfairly taken. in terms of the redakotctions - invade the personal privacy of others. i don't think that is too much of a surprise. for people looking for >> well, the 6e grand jury disclosure, this is a fantastic material that he says cannot be issue. we're going to see a lot of it, shared by law, if anything would

and that is really, really significant. compromise intelligence sources >> on the issue of grand jury and ongoing investigations, that testimony, congressional was all in his letter last leaders, and democrats, have signals they would be willing to get a court order to see that sunday nap is n material, what are the chances sunday, that is not a surprise. of that being successful? the only thing new here was reference to third parties. >> i think that is a tough one, i was surprised that was not in i think typically when the the letter on sunday. i think they would say that we're not going to say a lot and the reason that that was sort of material is authorized, it's expected is mueller is required because the government agreed to under the special council do so and so i think absenousen regulations to submit to the the government agreeing that is a tough one for congress. toer >> when it comes to the way the attorney general a report on deckical ical material will be looked over, and whether or not they trust william barr or not, how much declinically -- deically nati -e although authority on it. who has say on it. kree credence do you give to robert mueller? >> i think we have to take him as his word, and i think it would make sense that the author of the report play a significant >> the intelligence material, role in reviewing the report for

they could potentially discuss grand jury and other potential it in closed session. he will talk about the report that will go to congress and be made public. congress has no role in that because it is a separation of powers issue, and he said that robert mueller will assist him in flagging -- it may not be redactions. >> danny, in terms of third possible for someone shown this party, are we asked pete this at the top of the show who would fall into the third party thing sitting down in a room, to category. it is doj policy not to necessarily lay out why you -- figure out what grand jury the details of why you could do material is. so they have to say this line on page 87, they can spot the ball, that, but who do you think it and they will help identify that would be? >> it is a very broad spectrum, material. now you raise an interesting question. the material that is given to it could g include folking that congress, and retacted for public view in the congress, could the congress go back and say we want to be briefed in were almost diindicts, but sortf close session about this big square block of black on page a traditional spectrum of folk 93, maybe, that could happen. that's are a target, a witness, >> peter alexander, the or a subject.

president is weighing in, here but they have information that is what he said. is important, and that might be >> i have great confidence in the folks that they're trying to the attorney general, and if protect the perm privasonal pri that is what he would like to do, i have nothing to hide. for. >> how do you expect this to play out for the president? this was a hoax, a witch hunt, i he is using this as a political have nothing to hide, and i win. think a lot of things are coming you heard him on the campaign out with respect to the other trail, waving it around saying side, but i have a lot of it was a witch hunt, the details confidence in the toernl general. are looking for detail on >> so what do you make of that. >> what do you make of that, it obstruction and evidence of makes us have a new insight into conspiracy. adam schiff says he believes there is evidence of conspiracy the mar-a-lago treatment, you in this, what do you expect from see a vase behind him, look at this report? >> what i expect is that it will have a lot more information, that vase, it's the first thing that strikes you, but the president left this in the hands of the attorney general. a guy that he handpicked. clearly, than the president and a guy that had nothing but bad things to say. his team are aware of. a former ag that recused himself i think them understanding what here. is in there is premature. he put william barr in charge. he is told by aides that he has i would say with respect to the

handled himself well here. rhetoric and the witch hunt he had that 19 page memo where talk, there is still a huge he basically said that the disconnect between the president, that this was all, president, his rhetoric, and that he would not be pursued for what his own attorney general, and his own deputy attorney the idea of obstruction on this. general and his own fbi director last night i was traveling with the president in grand rapids have said under oath before congress. michigan, the whole new debate they clearly don't agree this is has begun, and the president made it clear out of the gates a witch hunt or a hoax. that the russian hoax is dead. he said the collusion i ddelusi >> ahead, we'll be back to break down this news with tonight's is over. this is something he will use as panel. plus democrats and republicans a vehicle to ramp up his base are trying to turn the mueller report into their own weapon, and his rhetoric. but will it be a silver bullet for the people in that room saying look at the others, the or a double edged sword? media, the democrats, they try to divide the a way still around. e edged sword? still around say is wow ♪ ♪ make you're jaw drop drop say oh my drop drop drop ♪ ♪ make u say oh my god my drop drop ♪ ♪ make you're jaw drop make u say oh my god ♪ ♪ and you never felt this type of emotion ♪

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of the robert mueller report will be available by mid-april. tonight, msnbc reporter nick con confiscori, and noah rothman are joining me now. this letter, it is the mueller report he is mischaracterizing at an exoneration. >> if in fact she descrihe is d the contents accurately, if he is delaying the inevitable release of evidence, it will look very bad. i'm not sure which it is. >> noah? >> i'm hesitant to speculate about any of this, but i would

be willing to say that i highly doubt the summary of this report, the top lines, the major things that we know, the president basically exonerated obstruction of justice. i would be surprised to think that is wrong. it will get into the hands of congress and then it is in the media's hands. >> there will be a lot of redakotass thourebax redactions. at the end he talks about third parties and you don't want to harm their reputation. there will be big chunks of this that the public never gets to see, how does that play into it. >> i think the public has a right to see as much as humanly possible of this report. not only do they have a right to do so, but i think it is necessary to if we want to continue --

>> i think that is a way to responsibly redact. let's be honest, it is in the hands of someone that is a political appointee -- >> donald trump is no longer slamming, where as his past political appointees, when he didn't act the way he wanted he would slam them. >> it is executive privilege that would encompass conversations wit stuff in there we can't see. sources and methods, grand jury testimony, and these are not under investigation by the doj. that is not going to be be in there some of the damage is

already out of the report, is that baked in? >> you hit the nail on the head, the longer you delay or you wait to release full information, a balloon gets deflated until eventually no matter what finding comes out in the this report, that might be extremely damming, maybe not criminal, but damming, americans say is this new? what's new here? and that is a strategy that i'm sure republicans are enjoying and the white house is enjoying. the question is is that something consciously being practiced by someone that is again a political appointee of the president. >> last night in grand rapids he was talking about how you should not investigate believe it is number one, guys. >> in this country we not criminalize political

differences. we do not abuse the law enforcement and intelligence power to target our political opponents. >> all of the current and former officials who paid for, promoted, and perpetuated the single greatest hoax in the history of politics in our country. they have to be, i'm sorry, they have to be accountable. >> lock them up. lock them up. >> so we don't go after political investigations, but we should go after the people that went after me to chants of "lock them up." i'm sensing some die ver jens here in his two opinions. a and b don't line up. his best move for reelection is the same move he used in his first campaign. to present himself as the victim and the object of mysterious terrible forces, elites, the

deep state, they're trying to get him. he wants, in a way, to keep this going. to t idea of his persecution going and keep the sense of that battle going. if it is about his record, if it is about his record on jobs, on trade, on foreign policy, that is a very difference terrain for him. >> is it important to talk about this and only talk about policy. >> it sounds like they want to, but president is entitled to a victory lap here. when you're accused of collaborating with a hostile power and you're exonerated, you can take one hot lap, but just one, but malfactors surrounded this president. >> he did not directly conspire, but the russians helped him, the russians attacked the election, is that something that you want to do even one victory lap

around? it seems unseemingly. it is certainly to say i didn't collaborate, but i just took it all for my advantage. it is better than acts of traeson. >> they want to move away from the collusion aspect of this, but the obstruction of justice question, let's be clear, they should run on lk and jobs and all of that, but it gets to the heart of what americans don't like about donald trump is is that he doesn't play the rules, he plays by his own rules. >> but again, i think this is a winning finish for democrats, you're not going to convince people in donald trump's face to

vote for a democrat. he calls the whole thing bs last night, but he used the full word, at this point i think i have heard him say all of the four letter words or versions of them in the english language on stage at a rally. why would we look at what he has done to our olympics as normalizing the profane, the images of childrens in cages and you can imagine from there. i think it is important that the rest of us say that that is not the kind of politics that we want and it is nothing something that we want to see other politicians practice. >> it is disgusting, and the democrat that strikes a posture in direct confrontation with that, presents themselves as the demeanor that is equal to and

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welcome back, bill barr said in a new letter today that he is available to testify before may 1st, and the house judiciary committee on may 2nd. the chairman of the house judiciary committee says while he will take that date under

advisement, he wants the attorney general to testify immediately to clear up questions about the four-page letter that barr sent his committee about the mueller report on sunday. joining me now a member of the house judiciary committee, so getting bill barr in front of your committee to talk about that letter what more will you find out that we didn't learn today in this new letter? >> let's see, the attorney general barr writes letters kind of like agatha christie novels, he says the president has the opportunity to exercise executive privilege, but the president has give n him

privilege instead. but bottom line -- >> is there anything that the ag can do that will make you trust him? >> yeah, he is turn over the mueller report. what did you think that would make the whole country trust him? >> what about any redakotass it might need? congress is capable of making the redactions ourselves. in the past if you look at waterdprwate watergate, or the ken knit star investigation, they just turn the complete report over, and they sent over boxes of supporting evidence. >> is using the ken star report the best example? everyone argued at the time that it was too much information to release to congress. it got out to the public, there

is sensitive material, they could argue there are sources and methods here, is there a reason to go through with -- with bill barr or the special council? >> i have no idea because i have not seen it, but look that is a tweet argument to be making now about the clintons, that there was all of this salacious and damaging material, we're just asking for the same treatment that every other council has reported to congress. we are the law making constitution. the toernl general has to allow this. >> that is a great question. i don't know where that doctrine

came from. it looks like the storm brought it today, it wasn't in the last letter and now maybe he is deciding wait a second this could be incredibly damaging to members of the family, the staff, but it doesn't appear in any other treatment of a report by an independent or a special council. and this is one of our fears in continuing to wait, the april second deadline that chairman nadler imposed on the attorney general is the most permissive deadline that anyone has ever gotten. so there was ample time to do it. now they will not even specify a date, but some time in mid april it will be acceptable. >> so any day after april 2nd is a day too late?

>> yeah, he could have done it at the first possible moment. you get an advance, you put the boxes in, and you send it over. we're the congress of the united states. we have saves, fsafes. we can keep it safe, the transcripts of the gate waterg tapes have been in there fer decades and they're fine. >> will you trust the report and any redakotass in it? >> if there is reasonable dedakotass, of course. >> a moment ago you seemed to suggest that any redakotas would not be reasonable. >> if there is a compelling reason to do it and congress is capable of doing that. >> so you need to see it? >> yes. >> you in the house judiciary

committee need to see it? >> yes, we represent the people, that is the purpose of having a special council. this has been confused by the fact that the attorney general has interjected themselves. and here are the factual findings, the factual conclusions, you decide what to do with it and the attorney general in this case said well the special council cannot determine whether or not there is a substantial justice. he can't conclude that and that is am beg yourself. but in any event that is a secondhand reading that we get and the attorney general declared there was no obstruction of justice. that is based on the 19 page single spaced memorandum that william barr wrote before he became attorney general. he said the president cannot as

a matter of law be guilty of obstructing justice when he tells members of his administration to drop a case, to leave out a criminal suspect, to end an investigation because he is the president. understand that is a radical fringe view within the law today under this so called theory that the president controls this function. is that the basis by which the attorney general is saying there is no obstruction of justice? we don't know. that would be the first question that the judiciary committee would be asking him. >> what are the second and third questions? >> i have not thought through those because the first is so overwhelming, if he is able to say no, i set aside my view, that he can never be prosecuted for obstruction of justice, and i decide that the quantum of evidence that was induced was

not sufficient to prosecute, how do you make that decision overnight when special council mueller could not make it after two years of knowing and investigating. >> if you think there is evidence in there that means the president did obstruct justice, if that is the conclusion that you end up making, what is the remedy here? nancy pelosi has taken impeachment off of the table. >>. >> she said as long as -- she said no, there is a bipartisan barer bar, a really high bar -- >> are you saying the republicans would never impeach this president even if the special council said there was high crimes and misdemeanors committed? >> i don't know if they said it. >> no, but you seem to be accepting that the republican party would never question this president. >> they have so far shown they

were unwilling to go after this president, so i'm just taking past for precedent here, and nancy pelosi with the bar as high as it is. >> let's just take you one step at a some time. >> there would need to be evidence and bipartisan support. republicans that were sticking with him all of the time said they had seen enough. they went to the president and they said after the tapes were revealed, mr. president this has to end, this is over. so she can't saying we're talking it off of the table, she just said there was an extremely high bar. i think every democrat agrees with that. but it is part of the constitution. it is the people's defense against a president who is

acting like a kid. we would never impeach someone for the reasons that the republicans did, they impeached him for telling a lie about a private act about sex, and that is a terrible -- -- and obviously we'll do that. >> so you're saying that -- that there could be evidence yet that could convince republicans that he is not fit for office, we will see what happens. out of curiositycuriosity. there is a moment because of the clause of the constitution. >> he needs the consent of congress, or to the u.s. treasury, that would be crime against the united states. the founding that the president had to have a loyalty to the people of the country and could not take money from foreign

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time now for the lid. the panel is back. mitch mcconnell wants nothing to do with leading on health care. >> it's a fight he tried to win. why keep fighting it? the better attack for him and the president in 2020 would be to attack socialism. but people in politics are always afraid most of all of losing health care they already have. that is the hard part for them right now. it's easier to attack some part of a health care program than to take away two of them. >> i talked to two this week. i asked both of them what the plan was. neither one had an answer. mark is part of 2020 campaign, so it's a little different, but

neither of them knew what a plan would be. >> this has been a winning issue for the democrats. they won big on it in the midterms. between that and the trump tax cuts, that's what the democrats want to focus on. they're winning issue. >> they sort of won on health care. they won on defending obamacare. they pivoted to saying we should actually reform the entire health care system. nick is right. the health care voter favors democrats. but the electorate favors health care performers. >> say they tristrike down obamacare and there is no plan in place. are tai talking about maybe medicare for all or -- >> they would favor democrats because republicans have been positioned as the defenders of obamacare. they're the defenders of the status quo, attacking the reformers. they have been attacking democrats as being health care performers.

>> i think we saw the results of the midterms, so it's clear that the republicans are not winning on this issue. >> democrats did not run on the medicare for all. >> they ran on health care. nobody knows what medicare for all means. the -- >> it means the nationalization of health care. >> there are different ideas from democrats so far. they haven't been fully flushed out what they want to do for health care. bernie sanders is pretty flushed out. everybody else is figuring out what they mean by medicare for all and whether they mean public option, whether they mean getting rid of private health care and becoming -- having a system in the same way that the uk or canada is. >> i think there is an opening for the gop on health care in 2020. if obamacare is thrown out and it collapses, there is going to be some collateral damage for the party, but there is a rising of democrats who say obamacare was bad to begin with. we should never have bothered trying to compromise republicans on it, let's do national health care, let's do med carry ficare.

>> if the president really wants to fix health care, why not come up with a plan now before asking the courts to tear it all down and go to the democrats and say let's find a way to fix this together. we have a health care system in place. it's despite how hard they've tried to tear it down, it's still working okay. why not find a way to shore it up and it will be so great i'll call it trumpcare. >> there's no consensus what health care should be. funding mechanism. that's what everybody likes. a health care platform that isn't fully funded. >> the answer is because republicans have been over the past four years more interested in tearing barack obama's legacy down than in delivering real policies and approaches that work for the american people. >> they tried over 70 times to repeal obamacare. >> third answer here, right? we are now on the tenth anniversary of obamacare. at that point it's a program.

it exists. they are extremely hard to get rid of once they're in place as history shows. i could chalk it up to desperation. we have got to get rid of this thing as soon as possible. every year it stay there is it is harder to dislodge. >> we forget that donald trump campaigned against one of these versions of the obamacare repeal and replacement bill. he went to iowa in 2017 and said the house bill didn't have enough heart, didn't have money and fwas mean. >> it doesn't matter if mcconnell isn't going to do anything about it. where does that leave the president? what happens if mcconnell refuses to push on it? >> it becomes a discussion on the campaign trail instead of a live thing. >> so it's just donald trump standing in front of a crowd like he did in 2015 and 2016 saying i'm going to have the best health care. >> >> this is an example of you asking me a question you already have the answer to. of course, he's going to do. >> i'm going to have the best health care, trust me. they're just lines. they're just big promises and empty words. >> why did the president even come out without the congress

behind him in the first place? he just says things. >> i think the american people can -- they're not stupid and they can sense when there's a real plan and when something is just being bandied about for politics. >> guys, thank you. happy friday. i appreciate it. tgif. we will be right back. - [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this.

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we will be back with more on monday. don't miss chuck on "meet the press on sunday". >> hi, katie. thank you very much. we begin tonight's show with breaking news. friday and we have another friday letter, brand new, on mueller from attorney general bill barr. bill barr making news late on a friday announcing officially we have it that he will release, he n says in writing by mid april and he will testify before congress on may 1st and he will not send the mueller report to president trump in advance for privilege review or at least he has no plans to. those are the headlines. we know them tonight because attorney general barr just dropped his third letter in a week. i have all of them. in a departure from the first two letters thr, this one rebute criticism he's heard or what you may have heard on what barr

calls media reports about his initia