live. andrea mitchell reports starts right now. retreat. president trump backs off on health care after republican leaders rebel at thought of taking on the democrats best issue without a plan of their own. >> this is the secret plan. they will not pass it until after the 2020 election. >> translation. they have no health care plan. >> coming up, senator tim kaine who does have a health care plan of his own. father knows best. did donald trump clear the way for widespread cheating on proper white house clearances well beyond just ivanka and jared. >> i've been accused of all different types of things. all those things have turned out to be false. we've had a lot of crazy accusations like we colluded with russia. feeling the heat. al roker travels to the northern

most point of the united states. >> you're the last musher. what's that like? >> it's kind of remarkable. sad but true. >> are you worried about the traditional way of life up here with the change that's going on, the climate change? >> i am in a way because everything is changing. everything is harder. coming up, presidential candidate joins me to talk about his number one issue, climate change. good day. democrats are on the attack over health care as president trump was pressured by his own party to give up on the issue until after 2020, if then. >> translation, they have no health care plan. it's the same old song they've been singing. repeal. they have no replace.

president trump confirmed that he will hold americans hostage through the 2020 election when it comes to health care. >> joining me now to start us off, msnbc senior political analyst, ashley parker. and contributor jonathan capehart. welcome both. ashley, first to you. this is a lot retreat in a tweet overnight after ramping up the health care attack despite warnings from kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell. the president retreats and says not so fast. we'll do it after 2020. what's going on here? >> it sure is. the irony or the interesting thing is more frequently the president tweets things and in his party is not very happy and they have to scramble to correct it. in this case the president is tweeting something that republicans and republican leadership on capitol hill is happy about. they were very dismayed when the administration, the justice department signed onto that

lawsuit. they did not want to make health care an issue that republicans were talking about or republicans would own. they were saying publicly and privately, politically this was a winning issue if they let democrats try to landhandle. the president punting this back to post-2020, it is a retreat. it makes a lot of sense politically for the president and republicans who don't want to have to be responsible for coming up with their own health care plan. >> that lawsuit will creep through the federal court system. there's no impending decision on health care. we have been debating this now for ten years. >> right. this danger here with this lawsuit, yes, it's going to take a lot of time but in that time

people's health care will be dangling by a string. >> it defecti ining ins the mar. >> right. >> it affects premium, costs and people sense of insecurity. >> exactly. what you have now is with the administration saying we're not going to defend this at all in the courts, the american people have lost their number one advocate in the courtroom when it comes to protecting the affordable care act. let's say things move more quickly than anticipated. move more quickly than past 2020 and people lose their health insurance. it's the duty of washington, congress and the white house to not have a plan in place to protect all those people who have insurance. all those people who will lose insurance as a result of the affordable care act, as a result of obama care being dlaeclared unconstitutional. >> the fact the president, since the original campaign has been

promising to replace obama care and promising a plan of his own. let's just show you some highlights of the president over the years. >> there's going to be a period, if you repeal it and before you replace it, when millions of people -- >> we'll do it simultaneously. it will be just fine. >> it's an unbelievably complex subject. nobody knew health care could be so complicated. >> the republican party will soon be known as the party of health care. >> i understand health care now especially, very well. a lot of people don't understand it. >> that was only last week. that wasn'tiest yester year. it's the john mccain vote against the obama repeal of obama care rather the trump repeal of obama care that his last vote, john mccain's last vote is the thing that is inflamed the president against

john mccain. >> yeah. that's exactly right. he still talks about that thumbs down that senator mccain gave after he's been passed for seven months. what you've seen in the clips is the tension that the president will be grappling with as we head into 2020 which is the difference between the rhetoric where it sounds great to say the republican party will be party of health care or cover all pre-existing conditions with a lower deductible and the reality of putting forward and owning plan. when republican controls both chambers of congress after running on repealing and replacing, they were unable to pass their own plan and it seems more unlikely that something that starts in a republican controlled senate would pass a democratically controlled house. that's why the president when he can't reconcile his rhetoric with reality, he did sort of cave and try to kick it to post-2020 when it will not be a

political headache of his. >> now, the democrats know they have a winning issue that from 2018 they will try to use again in 2020. nancy pelosi speaking of 2020. today the highest ranking democrat to speak out against the joe biden issue. this was at a political breakfast this morning. >> i think that it's important for the vice president and others to understand is it isn't what you intended, it's how it was received. that's generally communication in general. to say i'm sorry that you were offended is not an apology. i'm sorry, i invaded your space not i'm sorry you were offended. what is that? >> however, she said she does not view this as disqualifying for the vice president. jonathan, you've been writing about this. >> i have a column where i get to that very point. perception versus intention.

vice president biden is not harvey weinstein. he's not a bill cosby. that's not what we're talking about here. biden example or the situation we're talking about is in that gray area that the metoo movement and all of us talking about these issue. that's where we are now. we have to be able to have a conversation where we listen to the people who are making the accusation, take them seriously. we also have to be mindful that we have to then give the accused an opportunity to respond and then have that person think about the -- talk about their intentions but also think about what they've done and how that is perceived. i have my own situation with vice president biden in november of 2017 after we did an event for his book, "promise me dad." it went well. he comes right up, this close. puts his hands on his shoulder.

touches his forehead to mine and says you got it. he was really happy with the way it went. was i uncomfortable? sure i was uncomfortable. did i mind? no. then again, i'm not a woman. that's the discussion we have to have now. >> it's so interesting. we're going to have to leave it there. just to say, one of his virtues is he's so em pathetic and engaged with people one-on-one but that's also proving to be a challenge for him in the post-metoo perception of getting too close to someone and the issue of gender. this debate will continue for a while. thank you so much. great to see you. thanks for joining us. with health care now clearly the key issue for democrats in 2020, hoping to use the same winning formula that helped them regain the house in 2018, democratic senators michael

bennett and tim kaine are sbrous do -- introducing a new plan. they are hoping their presidential candidates will not move too far to the left on l t health care. tim kaine joins me now. thank you very much. >> tell me about medicare x and why you think it's a better alternative? >> you bet. medicare x takes the existing system that we have and just adds one element, which is we would direct the centers for medicare and medicaid to put on policies and any working person can buy it. the policy by medicare wouldn't have to cover a profit margin, fancy salaries, return to shareholders, paying local and state taxes because they wouldn't have to advertise on the evening news. it would be a very reasonably

priced policy that could be offered in every zip code in the united states eventually. we would have a phased roll out. it's responsive to what i hear from my constituents. we want lower costs and more choices. a lot of people live in parts of the country where there's only one or no doctors on the writing exchange. republican colleagues say the same thing. people need more choices and lower costs. that's what medicare x would do. >> when you call it medicare x, are you still talking about the private insurance system, private companies competing for those dollar or are you talking about a federal program? >> it is a federal program but it's not a mandate. you could buy it if you want. for example, on the exchange now, if you go out and try to buy insurance, there's private companies that offer policies.

this would be in the individual market and medicare would put plan on the exchange for people to buy an individual market. if you're working for an employer that provides a private plan and you like that then you don't have to give it up. this is an option. it would be affordably priced and if you qualify for a sub siy under obama care and we super charge it to make them -- to cover even more people, you could use the subsidy even to bring down the medicare x premium. medicare x would be significantly less than private insurance and you could use the subsidy to bring the cost down even more. >> it could cover pre-existing conditions and how could it handle prescription drugs which are exploding? >> it would provide all the same

protections that obama care does on pre-existing conditions. on prescription drugs we have that medicare would start negotiating for prescription drug prices to bring down the price of prescription drugs. you know this issue so well. when medicare part d passed in the early 2000s, that was a good thing exception we shackled ourselves and said we won't negotiate with companies over the price of prescription drugs even though the federal government does negotiate when we bruy the same drugs for the v.a. we ought to be getting a big volume discount if we're purchasing prescription drugs through the medicare program, and in our bill we would do that. >> i want to shift gears and ask you about something that has been exploding. my colleague hallie jackson interviewing about the president's tweet on puerto rico where he complained that $91 billion has been spent on puerto

rican relief. it's not true and said puerto rico is not part of the united states. hallie question eed hogan about that. >> they're getting $91 billion that are in pledges. >> that's what he said. he said they got 91 billion and estimate on what's to come. >> that money is coming to them. they have received more money than any state or territory in lift for rebuild. >> that's not true. >> 100% p. >> louisiana got more after that hurricane. that's not a true fact. >> they have not come to 91 billion. we have had a systematic mismanagement of the goods and services we sent to them. >> he's referring to that country as though puerto rico is not part of america. >> it's maddening. you're asking about this because we're having this debate right now on the floor about a supplement disaster relief bill. the democrat's position is really clear. we want to protect florida, texas, georgia. there's some funds for virginia

in there. we want to protect every state. we have one demand. treat american citizens all the same. the administration's desire to short puerto rico and this spokesperson talking about puerto rico as if it's another country, it's not another country. it's part of the united states. equal treatment for american citizens is what we want and it's what republicans ought to want too. >> i want to you about joe biden. you worked along with him. you've been a candidate for vice president on the trail. you know what it's like to be doing the rope lines but joe biden is under fire. nancy pelosi said this is not disqualifying but he has to understand the way his lhugs an embraces are perceived. >> i think nancy has a good point. you know the golden rule, treat other people the way you want to be treated. i got an improvement. let's treat other people the way they want to be treated. people have different standards

in terms of how they feel about touchiness and physical proximity. there's differences depending on age, culture. i think it's important to suns the way other people want to be treated in this space. it's important that we all sort of grapple with that. everybody up here knows that senator biden, vice president biden is very physically affectionate guy. that's what medipeople know abo him. for some people that's fine and others, that's not the way they are. we may be a certain way but this doesn't mean everybody is that way and we have to be sensitive to that. >> how do you think it affects his chances as he contemplates this wrong? >> nobody who is getting into this race will have only things on the plus side. some will say the following things are great and we have questions about this. that's the case for every candidate.

only the candidate can make the decision i want to run for president. we're hearing that decision is imminent. this is not a disqualifying thing. >> tim kaine, thank you so much. great to see you. >> absolutely. coming up next. jared kushner breaking his silence on the controversy surrounding his white house security clearance. you're watching andrea mitchell reports. you're watching andrea reports. with safelite, you can see exactly when we'll be there. saving you time for what you love most. >> kids: whoa! >> kids vo: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪

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welcome back. president trump's son-in-law in a rare interview is answering a storm of criticism over his top secret security clearance after a white house whistle blower told white house investigators that career security officials were overruled by white house higher ups, presumably the president granting top security clearances to as many as 25 people whose applications had been denied. jared kushner was questioned about it on fox news. >> when i came to washington, i had a successful business career. i had extensive holdings. i disclosed them. they told me what to divest, what to keep. >> do you pose a grave national security concern to the country? >> the president's done a phenomenal job of identifying what are our national security

priorities. i hope i played part in pushing those objectives forward. >> there were fireworks at a congressional meeting when elijah cummings clashed with jim jord jordan. >> trisha nubold came forward at great personal risk to warn the congress and the nation. she raised her concerns inside the white house. inside the white house and they targeted her for retaliation. >> yesterday a press release after talking to one witness where you hand pick a few parts of her testimony and now today. now today we're going to subpoena a guy who just sent us a letter saying he's willing to come here voluntarily. i've been on this committee ten

years, i've never seen anything like this. >> yeah, you've done it. >> msnbc political analyst, peter baker joins me now. peter, let's stipulate that she's an 18 year veteran that clearances are very specific process. there's a number of issues that are supposed to be looked at including people's bank ground on finances and whether they are a credit risk. that's a key indicator where they would be pressured by a foreign government. that credit risk issue has been obliterated under there white house. >> that's right. one of the things they look for are there issues in your past that would make you susceptible to blackmail or some other form of extortion by foreign powers. obviously, jared kushner financial past is rather complicated as he said on that fox news interview. we don't know what would

triggered the concerns raised about him but they had been extensively documented in the news media about projects to raise money and so forth. the president of the united states has the authority and the right to grant a security clearance even to those who are not deemed worthy of them by career officials. that's his authority as the chief of the executive branch. what's interesting is they have tried to disguise his role in this. my colleague and i went to see the president a couple months back and asked him did he have anything to do with jared kushner getting the security kpleer clearance and he said no. maggie reported that his chief of staff wrote out a memo that the president ordered him to give jared kushner security clearance. why are they giving us different stor stories? >> the audio from your interview back in february with the

president. here is a bit of it. >> i was never involved with the security. i know there was issues back and forth about security for numerous people. i don't want to get involved. >> apparently he was very much involved. peter. >> yeah, exactly, he was. i think that's one of the things that would raise alarms or raise red flags for people like trisha who are doing the same job they did under this administration as they did with previous administrations. she's come forward to congress and as congressman jordan said, this is one testimony and one person at this point. it comes in a context in which these security clearances had been an issue in the public now for more than a year. going way back to when staff secretary had to leave because of allegations of domestic misconduct at home with his wife. we've yet to get a complete record or accounting of how

these security kpleerclearances been issued. maybe that's what the congress will try to find out. >> it's a clearly different congress. there's a new sheriff in time. elijah cummings on it. coming up next, the democrats are upping the ante trying to get access to the mueller report. o the mueller report hey there people eligible for medicare.

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house democrats are demanding answers from william barr who missed today's deadline that they set to turn over the mueller report. they are threatening to issue subpoenas as early as tomorrow. who wins this face off? joining me now is barbara mcquaid and matt miller and msnbc justice and security analyst. first to you barbara, who has got the right to see this unredacted, if anyone and will the house democrats have their way with subpoenas if he doesn't turn it over soon. >> i think it's important to separate the idea of disclosure

for congress and for the public. when we're talking about congress, they should be able to see these things because they have a responsibility under their duties in their oversight capacity. it would be easy for william barr to get a court order to per misdecemb permitt december closure. his refusal to do that may be to delay for another day that full disclosure. the department of justice favors full disclosure unless prohibited by law and the next step is to try to accommodate those requests and only as a last resort should courts be resorted to. it seems like we get to that point here. >> indeed. the senate judiciary committee has a big interest in this.

>> i want to ask you about the attorney general saying he will deliver a redacted report mid-april. the house judiciary chairman said it would be april 2 and unredacted. where do you stand? >> we want to see that report. 420 members of the house of representatives voted that they wanted to see the report. nearly 90% of the american people have said they want to see the report. i hope that the redactions are minor and carefully done because if he gets out there and has redacted after that report, we're not going to get the information we need to figure out what security measures we should put in place to protect us against russia. i'm most interested in that. >> there will be votes tomorrow. what do you expect to happen in

response to that? >> i think the reason democrats are moving this way is because they don't trust william barr. in his subsequent letter he gives reasons he will conceal. >> he raised the issue of personal embarrassment. why is that a legitimate issue? >> that's a goal to not release publicly. that's not a reason to withhold reasons for congress. the department can't release that information to the public but they cannot with hold it from congress. grand jury information, he ought to go to courts and asking for a resolution. he's refused to entertain that request. the reason you see the democrats moving now versus waiting until they see the report is because they have seen how the justice department plays this game in the past. this is true justice departments of both administrations is they try to delay, delay. there's a long drawn out court

process. it involves negotiation between the two parties in advance. they know the justice department if they want to delay releasing this full report, can delay it for months, maybe even years. they want to start the process now and get it going as soon as possible. >> barbara, rachel maddow pointed out the same judge in charge of this issue, the same federal judge just released, ordered the release of all the underlying materials in the nixon case going back four decades. will we have to wait 43 years to see the mueller report? >> many parts of it. it seems parts could be disclosed both to congress and the public. i think it's important to separate those two things. even if things can't be produced now, i would hope we don't have to wait until 40 years. one of the basises is ongoing criminal investigations that continue. we don't know who they are. those will come to an end at

some point. certainly not within four years but the coming months i would imagine. once those matters are concludesed, those should be turned over to congress. congress has a duty here. it isn't about getting president trump. that might be part of what people are looking for but protectioningintegrity of our elections from russia. >> that should be mission one. thank you both so much. coming up, the heat is on. how are state and local governments fighting back against climate change? we'll get a report from al roker, next. stay with us right here on msnbc. with us right here on msc.nb ♪ you should be mad they gave this guy a promotion. you should be mad at forced camaraderie. and you should be mad at tech that makes things worse. but you're not mad, because you have e*trade, who's tech makes life easier by automatically adding

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season is beginning. it's dangerous to go out on their seat skin boats because the ice is so thin. that's causing dangerous conditions. the perma frost is thawing. that's the permanent layer of frozen earth. they count on that because they have ice cellars after they have had their catch for the day, for the year, they store that whale meet in those cellars. because the temperatures are warming, the catch is thawing. there's beach erosion. folk who is live along along the coast, there's a thousands mile coastline that faces north. unfortunately, there's beach erosion, storm surge, pst cauit causing problems. climate change is real and it's happening. those folks are at the front line. their way of life for thousands of years being disrupted, possibly permanently.

back to you. >> thanks so much. al roker in the far north in the arctic region with climate change. a key issue on the minds of democratic primary voters. governor, thank you very much. i know you were testifying today on capitol hill. what do we need to know about how america has been ignoring this partly after the withdrawal from the paris accord. the message is we can't do this alone and if the rest of the world isn't doing it, we shouldn't join in. >> we need to know we are the first generation to feel the sting of climate change and the last generation to do something about it. we need to know that this is a matter of urgent peril as al just talked about. flooding in the midwest. sea water rising in florida.

washington state kids couldn't go out to play because the air was so bad. we're all on the front lines. we need to know this is matter of great promise, which is an economic opportunity to grow clean energy jobs. i was telling the commerce committee about that. i've one of the leaders of the u.s. climate alliance. these are 23 states that recognize the economic possibilities of putting people to work. they are putting people to work. the fastest growing job is solar. the second is wind turbine technician. we need to be invested with confidences in our ability to build a clean energy economy together with urgency to get this job done. that's why we need a new president and what i think can be called a historic candidacy because it's a historic moment that demands leadership. i want to thank you for covering the issue. >> thank you for raising the issue and bringing it to a

higher level of a presidential campaign. how are we prepared? m my reporting is the pentagon nervous about behrain but our government doesn't seem to be doing anything to create resiliency along our coastlines. >> it's difficult for our federal government to act when the president at the top says this is a chinese hoax. he needs to listen to al's reporting to alaska. this is real. it's affecting every state in some way. not only are bases being flooded but the security threat of mass migration caused by drought that will create political instability. this is a national security situation. we have a president now that doesn't believe in gravity or the science of climate change. we need leadership to really ignite the energies of this nation. i believe this nation is ready

for this. we are by nature an optimistic can do people. we know we can put people to work in clean energy jobs. we need that spark of inspiration from the white house like we had from john f. kennedy. i'm saying what i believe very deeply that this has to be the number one job for the united states. it has to be first foremost and paramount obligation of the united states. if we do this, we're going to build a great clean energy economy and give a chance to our kids to have a healthy future. i think that's a moral responsibility as well. >> how will you raise the money? bernie sanders just announced $18.2 million in a shorter time than kamala harris who pulled in 12 million. pete pulled in 7 million. these are big dollars coming

from small contributors which is the newest way the democrats are proving their mettle on the campaign trail. >> it's a good thing. we love that fact. sints you mentioned it, if people want to see climate change on the stage in iowa, people have the opportunity to send in a dollar to make sure this climate change message is part of the debate in iowa. it needs to be a debate. climate change wasn't mentioned for two nano seconds in the last debates. now i'm proposing a can ddidacy that it has to be the duty of the federal government. if it's not job one, i went get done. for those that want to see that as part of the debate, we need to make sure this happens. we only got one more chance. it's the next four years. then it's too late. all the chips are on the able. i hope people will rally to this

cause. we're ready for it. >> it's a pleasure. i'll catch up with you on the trail. >> thank you. tonight, two more 2020 c contenders join msnbc. this all starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. coming up, susan page here to discuss her revealing new biography of barbara bush. that's ahead right here on andrea mitchell reports. mitche. of soft-serve ice cream? i got cones, anybody wants one! oh, yeah! get ya some! no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. ed! ed! we struck sprinkles! [cheers]

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startling new insights into the life of barbara bush. and of course her family in the new biography officially released today called the matriarch. it is by susan page. including never before known details about how mrs. bush suffered with depression at one low point in her very long productive life. page writing that overwhelmed by pain and loneliness, she contemplated suicide, she would pull over to the side of the road until the impulse to plow

into the tree or an oncoming car had passed. joining me now, the author of the matriarch. congratulations, susan. this is fascinating what you have achieved here with your access to the diaries and your exclusive sinterviews with mrs. bush. >> it was such a privilege really to have a chance to spend time with this very interesting woman whose life spanned so much of american history. she was born five years after women got the right to vote and she lived to see her son vying for the presidency with the candidate on the other side turning out to be the first woman to run for the presidency for a major party. so quite a lifetime she lived. >> talk to me about the depression because it was partially triggered you write about his time at the cia, that was a pivotal year in his life. but she no longer had access to any of his secrets.

>> she had played such a pivotal role in his life. up to then his life in china and at the u.n. and running for office for the house and senate in texas. and now suddenly he took over the head of the cia, a job she advised him not to take by the way and he could not share his work life with her. she said i couldn't keep a secret, he couldn't tell me anything. so she felt detached from his work life. it was also a time when she had an empty nest at home. her kids were either away from school or moved into early adulthood. she was going through menopause. she thinks that may have played a part in it. and she describes this time of just great dark fls in her life where the only person aware of what she was going through was her husband. and i can tell you looking back on it, she thought i should have gotten treatment, i should have gotten the treatment we have now to for depression including drugs, and it changed her outlook on people who encounter tough patches, that it is not up

to them to just pull themselves up by their boot straps, sometimes you need help. it changed her to go through that episode. >> and also what you write about, her struggling from the issue of abortion and one pointl about abortion. obviously a toxic issue in republican politics in particular. but as a woman and someone who is used to speaking out strongly, she felt constrained. >> she gave me access to her die wri diary and in it were four sheets of paper saying thoughts about abortion. and she wrote this out, it was really a letter to herself at a time her husband was making his first bid to the presidency in 1980, she knew she was going to be asked about abortion. she wanted to figure out what she thought. and she drew on her experiences with her daughter, robin, saying i felt robin's soul enter her body when she was born. i felt her soul leave her body

when she died at just age three of leukemia. so to me that means the soul enters the body at birth and therefore abortion is not murder and should be permitted. for people who assume that politicians make only political calculations about issues like this, here was someone really struggling with the morality of what she thought. >> and her whole connection to the women's movement. >> was difficult. she really walked the walk of feminism. she was strong minded and independent, but she did not talk the talk. and she would not say to me that she was a feminist. in the long conversation we had about it, we went around and around and i finally gave up. i think it was because she felt that the feminist movement dissed her and the choices she made to stay at home, to raise children, to devote her life as a supportive spouse. and even though she was very popular eventually very lauded and praised by everyone, i think she never quite got over that

feeling that they had not respected the choices that she made. >> it is so interesting also that as we understand it today, today the foundation, the lie blae library, have changed the name to be george and barbara bush to give her equal billing. >> you know who would have liked that, barbara and george bush. they were partners in so many ways. when i asked people about what role she played, the adjective that came up over and over again was indispensable. they were indispensable partners to one another. >> in life and always they would love this book. susan page, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> the matriarch. and it is equal pay day in america, this is the day of the year when the average woman's paycheck finally catches up to what the average man earned last year. and that is an average. in other words it took women on average three extra months to

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