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. >> we hear directly from jerry nadler tonight. tomorrow we will be watching the big vote on the subpoenas for the full mueller report. don't go anywhere right now. "hardball" is up next. >> the democrats' big weapon. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. the democrats' virktry last november gave them the weapon they need to make war on donald trump. the subpoena. the power it demand testimony, document, whatever they need to drag the truth from the people around this president. let's see where and how they are using it. today the house oversight committee led by elijah cummings
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voted to authorize subpoenas of white house security clearances. tomorrow the house judiciary committee led by jerry nadler will vote to authorize the subpoena for all 400 pages of the special couple's report without redactions. that's because the justice department failed as of tonight to deliver the report by the committee's deadline, which was today. now president trump who insists he has nothing to hide is bashing democrats for seeking the full report. >> will the white house fight it? >> it's ridiculous. we went through two years of the mueller investigation. the attorney general now and the deputy attorney general ruled no obstruction. they said no obstruction. so there is no collusion, there is no obstruction, and now we will start it all over again? this is a disgrace. these are just democrats that
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want to try and demean this country. it shouldn't be allowed. i will live by what the attorney general -- i live by what he said. it's a 400 page report. we could give them 800 pages and it wouldn't be enough. they will say it's not enough. it's not enough. >> you are the country? they voted along party lines to authorize a subpoena of the former white house security director karl kline. according to a whistle blower, he overturned the recommend algzs to deny the application of at least 25 white house employees. in other words, people like ivanka trump and jared kushner among many others granted secret information intelligence despite the warnings of the career civil servants who reviewed their background checks. it comes after reporting last month and revealed the president personally intervened to grant his daughter and son in law permanent clearances.
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i'm joined by jackie spear who sits on the house oversight committee and liu on -- is and political reporter at the washington post. let me go to congressman liu about this thing. me why you are going to a subpoena authorization tomorrow. >> thank you, chris, for your question. it has been over 10 days since robert mueller completed his report and congress and the american still don't have it. what is bill barr riding? we will authorize to get the full report. we don't trust bill barr. based on public reporting, he did not want to eliminate health care, but he was buckling under pressure for donald trump and now he is trying to eliminate preexisting conditions. we don't want him to make redactions and that's why we authorize the subpoena for the full report.
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>> do you think he is dishonest? if he is going to use the redactions, you are suggesting he's hiding the truth. >> it's possible. it has been over 10 days and it's not clear why he is hiding the report. he went way beyond what the special counsel regulation said. he did not have to write a four-page memo that said no obstruction of justice occurred. that's the decision he was supposed to have made. congress should be making that and not the attorney general. the whole point is to not have people like a political appointee like bill barr make that decision. >> let me tell you about the politics. what is this about? it seems to me that the attorney general has become in the last week the man in the middle here. here's the that decides and he
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decides so far what we know. he's the that decides whether the president has been exonerated in terms of obstruction of justice. he said he is exonerated. he has a lot of power. is he a political guy or a public servant? how would you break it out? >> the congressman laid it out. it's one that is legal and political, but the way this situation is developing based on my talk with republican and democratic sources is is that may go to the courts and the attorney general may not give sufficient information in the view of house democrats and this goes to federal court or to the supreme court if congress doesn't feel they are getting enough information and the attorney general said he is giving enough within the pram terse of his own jurisdiction? mar. >> how would they decide it? they have to look at the whole report. it took two years. >> bless you. >> always happen this is time of night. what do you do if you have an
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attorney general put in my trump because you said the right things about his powers as president in the executive role. he thinks you will look out for him. you can look like roy cohen or bobby kennedy. are you working for the president? >> we hope he is working for the public. he came in under a cloud with the 18-page memorandum where he laid out views of obstruction of justice. we are hearing from congress and they voted 420-0 to see the findings of the report released in full to congress. congress as an entity who has the duty to oversee the executive branch. >> almost all of them said let's looka the this. >> the underlying findings of the report as well. >> there is a difference between the republican party and the president. he obviously is ready to dump on it again if it gets out. >> for he gets out, he will spin
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it, no collusion, it's not even a word in the federal criminal code. the members of congress agree and voted unanimously to get this out. we as the body that oversee this is as a right to get to this information. even though barr said he will get the information out within two weeks, congress is well within the authority to get it out now. >> jackie spear, thanks for coming on. it seems that the democrats don't trust the republicans. i see why. they don't trust barr. they want to see the whole report and not his version of it. they don't trust the president passing out the top secret clearances to his family. it seems that this nepotism reached the limits where you trust jared kushner.
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your thoughts? >> we hear in a situation where a whistle blower who worked in the white house for 18 years under both republican and democratic administrations has come forward because she believes that she can't go up the chain of command anymore and have her reviews have the clarity they deserve. she started making a list of 25 people who got security clearances who were not cleared by the fbi and she brought it to the oversight committee because she said that's our last hope. this is someone who is fearful for her job, who has already been retaliated against by having two weeks with no pay because they see that as insubordination because she keeps continuing to not recommend that certain individuals get security clearances. that is consistent with the fbi and then again her boss
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overturns it. you have that issue and it's really interesting in the oversight committee. they were ringing their hands and just a year ago, they were subpoenaing all kinds of documents from hillary clinton and never even had the courtesy of telling the democrats on the committee. we had an open hearing about it today. >> what do you suspect jared and perhaps ivanka have done wrong that got the fbi to say no, don't let these people see top secret materials. they know she is the daughter and he is the son in law of the president. he entrusted great power to these people and they say at the fbi at the public servant level, don't trust them. what is it they have on these two people? >> you are declined a security clearance if you have a conflict of interest. if you have some financial
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interest with a foreign entity. whether you had either a criminal act or bad behavior. those are the circumstances under which a security clearance is not recommended. we need to know what the fbi found, why they chose not to offer those computer clearances and why the white house overturned that. we are a country of laws and it seems that the president thinks that he doesn't have to comply with any of those laws. that's fundamentally what the problem is. >> we saw footage of the young couple greeting pete sessions who is -- jeff sessions who was dumped by the president. when it comes to jared's security clearance, the fbi and ci aback ground checks flagged concerns about his family business and foreign contacts and foreign travel and meetings he had during the campaign in an
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interview with fox, they brushed off the allegation. >> can't comment for the white house, but what i can say is over the last two years, i have been accused of all different types of things and all have turned out to be false. >> do you pose a grave national security concern to the country? >> i can say in the white house i worked with phenomenal people and over the last two years, the president has done a phenomenal job of identifying what are our national security priorities. >> at no point was he asked if his father had law intervened to grant him clearance. the fbi i take them totally seriously. i have been at the clearances to be a speech writer and something jumped at them. >> i have been through the whole process twice and the follow-up ones. this is not about area skped whether he is a grave thread to
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security. it's about the constant devaluing of the national security community that we keep finding with this administration and the lawyers. >> like when the president refuses to say that the russians screwed with our elections. >> or that saudi arabia is a threat to the united states. people devote their careers to think about who is posing a threat and get their opinions -- >> whistle blower worked for 18 years as a security specialist and explains why she is speaking out now in an exclusive interview on nightly news with peter alexander. >> why is this issue so important that you felt the need to speak out? >> the protection of national security is not a democratic or republican issue. it's an american issue. we as security professionals owe it to make all our recommendations in the best
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interest of national security. >> i want you to weigh in as a political figure and a leader of the opposition party. what do you make of this president with respect to law and national security and with respect for the truth? where would you put him in all of those three categories? >> i give him an f and the conversation highlights why we need the mueller report. there is a range of conduct that may not rise to the level of a federal offense, but constitutes misconduct. for example, former trump officials scott pruitt and ryan zinke and others were forced to resign not because they necessarily violated federal laws, but misconduct like conflict of interest and abuse of power. we want to know if others engaged in that kind of conduct as well as the president. >> jackie spear and ted liu both of california. elliott williams and robert costa of the "washington post."
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president trump's health care layaway plan you can call it let obamacare for 20 million people die now and promised a plan after the 2020 election. isn't that nice? it's like wimpy and popeye. i will be happy to pay you on tuesday for a hamburger today. how can this play out in the 2020 elections. it's not going to help the republicans because health care is a top democratic issue. kirsten gillibrand is on tonight and they are different from what forced al franken from the senate. donald trump said the american citizens there are taking from the u.s. like it's a foreign country. what's behind all this angry bitterness by the president. stick with us. bitterness by the president. stick with us. ree access to res. yep, td ameritrade's got that. free access to every platform. yeah, that too. i don't want any trade minimums.
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welcome back to "hardball." one week ago, a perceived victory over the special counsel's investigation, president trump decided to endorse a decision to strike down obamacare all the way. get rid of it. terminate it. last night he tweeted the republicans are developing a really great health care plan with far lower premiums and deductibles. it will be taken after the election when republicans hold the senate and win back the house. it will be truly great health care that works for americans. today she was r he was asked why reversing course. >> i wanted to delay it until after the election. we don't have the house so even though the health care is good, really good, much better than when the plan comes out that will be showing you at the appropriate time, it's much better than obamacare. when the plan comes out, you will see it. >> does anybody believe he's a great salesman and does anybody believe he has a health care in mind at all?
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privately the quest to push for an alternative ahead of the election got an icy reception from fellow republicans in congress. according to axios, the decision to fight this now made no sense. mitch mcconnell said he and the president are finally on the same page. >> is there a distance between and you the president between what he wants to do on health care and where you see it standing? >> not any longer. we had a good conversation yesterday afternoon and i pointed out to him sna tthe sen republicans' view with the democratic house of representatives. >> notice how the republican guy is pulled back from him? they don't want to be in the picture. democrats were not quite as forgiving. take a look. >> translation. they have no health care plan.
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it's the same old song they have been singing. therefore, repeal. they have no replace. president trump confirmed that he will hold americans hostage through the 2020 election when it comes to health care. >> this is his secret plan. they are not going to pass it until after the 2020 election. >> what's left unsaid is what happens to the millions of americans whose coverage could disappear if the supreme upholds the decision that declares the law totally unconstitutional. michelle goldberg is from the new york times and republican strategist. it seems to me that president trump made a political mistake here. if the court strikes down and do proceed to uphold the texas judge's decision, if they get rid of health care all together,
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they will have nothing. the democrats will be saying bring back obamacare and the approximately will say something, i don't know what he will say, but they will have an empty-handed alternative. it seems like it opens the door for the democrats. >> that's true and even if the supreme court doesn't strike down obamacare, democrats will still be able to say going into the 2020 election to say truthfully, this election is about whether or not donald trump is going to take away your health care. he has all but said it. if we win, obamacare is toast. given the fact that you have seen furious up risings whenever donald trump threatened to do this in the past, there was huge opposition to the health care bill and a major issue in the mid-terms and motivate people to get out again when donald trump has made this threat extremely
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explic explicit. >> you had a great column about joe biden. i know you are a republican, but also an independent thinker. what do you have to compare with obamacare? >> not a whole lot. there is a couple of buckets. the bucket on what what they can do in a bipartisan way. the members are negotiating on drug pricing. they can talk about bipartisan things they can do and the things they had to do politically. have a vote saying you are for preexisting conditions. >> how can do you that if you don't have a plan? >> you need protect yourself and have a vote saying you are for preexisting conditions and set up to demand obamacare and not end it. if you take away obamacare right now, the republicans are in big trouble. members of the house and senate realize that. >> what if the supreme court does this? >> it will be a while.
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i think they will uphold it in the fifth district. frankly that's not going to happen. if it does happen, republicans better hurry quick to come up with a plan to mend it and not end it and get basic things. that's how they lost the mid-terms. >> you know what? when the republicans say they will give you protection on preexisting conditions on children up to 26, that's like promising a good air conditioning in a car you are not going to give me. you are going to give me a preexisting conditions without a plan it would be part of. >> of course everything is going to say they are for preexisting conditions. it's not guaranteed coverage, but also guaranteed that those premiums won't be astronomical. i don't think they are making that promise, each if that promise would be empty.
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>> they have strong e lotional issues. for democrats, part of it is that more women vote democrat. there is a lot of reasons for this, but health care is so high with the democrats. they get so angry and so hot on it that the emotional issue voters connect with. i get it. if i don't like illegal immigration, i will vote for republicans. health care, i will vote for democrats. is that fair? >> i worked hard on health care and there is ways to make progress without being so vulnerable. there is a history where republican his concerns about medicare being socialist. >> reagan said that about medicare. >> not just democrats like health care. republicans like health care, too. it's in the republicans' interest to come up with plans. >> they like medicare. when you get old, you get something. president trump has been all over the map on health care.
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let's take a look. >> and the health care, the plan is terrible. it's terrible. we are going to take care of everybody and end up with a great plan that costs much less money for the people and the country. >> obamacare is collapsing. it's in bad shape. we are going to take action. there is going to be no slowing down. there is going to be no waiting and no more excuses by anybody. i think we are going to have a tremendous success. it's a complicated process, but actually it's very simple. >> we're came up with a solution that is really, really i think very good. i have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject. nobody knew health care could be so complicated. >> we will have a plan that is so much better than obamacare. it's a disaster. we will have a plan that is so much better. health care is going very well. >> we will have kirsten
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gillibrand on in a moment, but joe biden, can he get through this? >> i think he can get through this. like i wrote in my column, i'm not sure that somebody who is so out of step with where the energy in the democratic party is needs to get into this race and sort of swim against the tide. this was not really a me too story. it was a story about ignoring boundaries and being unaware of changing norms and how other people react to what he thought was a friendly affectionate touch. that said, his ability to sort of read the current political environment and read where manners are is relevant to whether or not he is the person to leave td the democratic part right now. >> up next, democratic candidate kirsten gillibrand of new york will be here and i'll ask her about the threat to close the
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when a president says let's send a man to the moon or when a president says let's pass the civil rights act. that's what bravely looks like. when you are willing to take on the battles that no one else is willing to take on and you are willing to do the thing that is really hard to do. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was 2020 presidential hopeful, senator kirsten gillibrand of new york. she was making her pitch to progressive activists at the we the people summit here in d.c. the senator described to the audience what she is willing to do to keep president trump from another four years in the white house. >> i'm willing to stand up to president trump. i am the senator who voted the most against president trump for his cabinet nominees. i am going to stand up to him every chance i get because that is who i am. >> kirsten gillibrand joins me right now. i like what you said about courage. former president obama said the other day candidates should
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focus on the issue they are willing to take a loss on. what's your issue that is worth losing the election over? >> i have several, but you have to address global climate change because it's the greatest urgent threat to humanity. people don't understand what leadership is. you have to do it now not because it's easy, but because it's hard. when john f. kennedy wanted to put a man on the moon, he didn't know if he could do it in 10 years, but it would be innovative and strong. >> here beat the spread. >> and he did it. we need a president who said we must address climate change and regain our place on the stage. why not a space race with china over green agency and say let's see who can address clean energy and renewable fuels faster and see whose scientists and
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entrepreneurs are the best. >> most people watching and listening are saying okay, you have the green new deal. what about the rest of it. the ideological part or the left part. that's what trump will run against. >> it's more simple than people think. the green new deal say platform of ideas. i have been working on it for 10 years. korean air, clean water. i have been serving on the environment public works committee to clean up poisoned water for 10 years from lead, from pcbs. the second piece is infrastructure. there is no more bipartisan idea than rebuilding america's infrastructure. high speed rail, new electric grid and more mass transit and the last is green jobs. if you train young kids and give them the opportunity to be able to be the next workers in solar, hydro power and biofuels, they will have the jobs of the future and create growth.
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that is the base of the bill. the thing that is aspirational is net zero carbon emissions in 10 years. just like putting a man on the moon, you don't know if you will splish it. >> you sound like a big progressive. i think a lot have evolved, but immigration was great on more funding for ice. now you are for getting rid of it. explain that evolution. >> let's talk about border security first. democrats are not afraid of keeping this country safe. i will continue. >> why do we have 11 million people because they crossed the border or overstayed their visas. why do we have so many people who came in illegally? >> right now? they are desperate. >> 11 million. >> right now it's el salvador, honduras, gang war, hunger and fear. we are a country that has
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benefitted from immigration. we are stronger because of our immigrant roots. we are stronger because imgrants have helped build this country. it's the entrepreneurial innovation. >> should the democrats be proud that they helped enforce the border or that they like immigrants? >> let me be clear. president trump confused the issue. there are two parts of immigration. the border security part which is to fight against cross border terrorism, human trafficking, gun trafficking and drug trafficking. that's the part we will fund. that's the part we have to continue to get the resources. >> what about the poor mexican who is want to move to the united states. isn't that the biggest chunk of people? >> i will address that, but the second half are seeking asylum. that's where president trump is off the rails and inhumane and frankly frightened of immigrants and refugees. he has been a coward. >> now it a currently thing.
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you were a colleague of joe biden and he's under a lot of heat. not a lot of heat, but under heat. what should he do? is there anything he can do at this point in his career? >> this is something i have taken very seriously over the last seven or eight years. >> i know. >> against sexual assault for the military and on college campuses and changing the rules for the house and senate on harassment. with these allegations specifically, i think it's something if vice president biden will have to run, he will have to address directly with the american people. >> what should he say? >> they feel demeaned and that's not okay. >> that's not what he thought or felt, but how people receive it. >> there is a conversation about do we value women? when we allow the space to tell their truth and what they experienced, you have to not only receive and believe them,
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but investigate. you can't investigate. >> you know what i'm trying to do is get an answer here. is he fit to be the nominee and fit for the office? >> think it's an issue he will have to address with voters and the voters will decide. >> how are he and al franken different? >> they are very different. senator franken obviously had eight credible allegations corroborated in realtime. >> sorry there more that didn't get out? >> i'm not at liberty tow say that, but what i know and what is public is eight were allegations and two since he was senator. the last time was a congressional staffer. for me and many others, we couldn't stay silent anymore. it's not that he didn't have the right to stay on and do his ethics investigation and sue every woman who came out against him. those were his decisions.
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my decision as a mom of boys, theo is 15. henry is 10. the conversations i was having at home were not great. theo said mom, why are you so tough on al franken? i had to say theo, it's not okay to grope a woman without consent or forcibly kiss a woman without consent. >> where are you on biden? >> the first woman said she felt demeaned. it's an issue he will have to address with the voters. >> should he quit? >> he will have to talk about it. >> people are going to ask me. do you call on him to leave the race? >> i do not and it's something he will have to address. the truth is that we as a country have to decide whether we value women at all. it's a day in the year when a woman has to work up until today to earn the same as a white man
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doing the same job. do we value women? >> there is something wrong with you if you do. one of the candidates for president of the united states. trump complain he's gets so little appreciation for being what he said is the best thing to happen to puerto rico. s the g to happen to puerto rico
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welcome back to "hardball." after months of attacks on puerto rico where almost 3,000 people died in hurricane maria in 2017, president trump tweeted that puerto rico got $91 billion, more money than has been gotten for a hurricane before and all the local politicians do is complain and ask for more money. the polls are grossly
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incompetent. that's the president talking. "the washington post" points outs that nearly everything trump just said about puerto rico is wrong. he knows that puerto rico has not received none billion for hurricane recovery. so far about $11 billion has been sent to the island. trump's $91 billion number comes from the $41 billion set aside, but not spent for recovery combined with $50 billion expected to be spent over the life of the recovery effort that could take several decades. they point out that hurricane katrina cost $120 billion and trump has no evidence to show that the leaders are mishandling the money. trump praised himself for his response to hurricane maria. let's listen. >> i knowledge that puerto rico was an incredible unsung success. >> i have taken better care of puerto rico than any man ever. >> dia great job.
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welcome back to "hardball." this morning after attacking puerto rican leaders for how they spent their hurricane recovery money, president trump tweeted that the best thing that ever happened to puerto rico is president donald j. trump. arizona democratic congressman is ruben gallego from the hispanic caucus and luis miranda from the federation and creator. miranda, you knowled that all t time. let plea let me go to the congressman. the numbers are all off. >> he in way over his head. he has zero concept of what the island is. he doesn't quite understand these are americans. we have the person who called it the other country. it doesn't surprise me. this is the one who was capable of failing casinos. he failed 3.1 million americans
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on puerto rico. he should learn to accept that and try to work with us to fix it. >> let me go to mr. mi rand a. is it a question of politics that he doesn't see them as his constituents because they can't vote in presidential elections? why does he talk tow disdainfully? >> it's vintage racist trump. let's speak on the most vulnerable and attack them from painting the people from california, the people from texas, from florida, from puerto rico all with disaster relief, but let's speak on the most vulnerable and throw a number out of presidency head, $91 billion so the number sticks and people talk about oh, my god, the people of puerto rico are really corrupt. they got $91 billion when it's totally a lie. >> let me ask you about the administration of the funds.
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he suggested the money is going down a hole and nothing is being done. do you have confidence that the billions are working for the people who are u.s. citizens and are we working and are we saving that island? >> the billions have to arrive. >> it's not a country. go ahead. >> the billions have to arrive. the money has been appropriated. 10 of the $15 billion that got to puerto rico was spent by fema and fema by its own analysis indicated that they didn't do a good job right after hurricane maria. when trump gives himself a 10, he is actually contradicting his own fema staff who believes they did not do a good job. >> here he is throwing out the paper towels and i don't understand that thinking. that's goofy. he is throwing out the don't squeeze the charmin. on msnbc today, hogan called
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puerto rico i did that, too, a country. it's a commonwealth status. a territory of the u.s. >> the governor has done a horrible job and trying to identify someone to take the blame off of him and not having a grid and not having a consistent -- >> he back tracked on the comments later in the interview. >> i think you referred to puerto rico as that country. >> a territory. that was a mistake. >> slip of the tongue? >> 100%. not on purpose. that was a definition of the slip of the tongue. it's a territory and they mismanaged all the money. >> president trump appeared to pit puerto rico against the rest of the country writing that politicians are grossly incomp hent and are foolish and only take from the usa. you have been over there. >> the president doesn't clearly understand what's going on. we have a fiscal control board
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and even the money that goes to puerto rico has to go through a controller that is nominated by republicans and democrats. talking to the local governor and city councilmembers and mayors of the island, fema is not approving these projects fast enough. there is so much red tape that has been created by this administration that a lot of that money is not moving fast enough. the incompetence here is on the part of the trump administration. the fact that the president can't focus this because he is blinded by rage, he is stopping them from doing the real work. it's the administration's fault and not the people of puerto rico. >> who is making sure they are doing the job? >> there is a fiscal control board that was approved by congress in a bipartisan manner back in 2016. it is a fiscal control appointed bite house, senate, and the president. the money comes in first and they oversee the money before it gets decided by the local
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government. the president is entirely wrong. they have no con1ecept of what they're doing and looking for blame. >> tell me what's going. it's two years since maria. what's it like in puerto rico? >> still moving. we just came from doing hamill in puerto rico. the struggle continues. when you are promised lots of dollars for rebuilding, in fact the $91 billion, it's really the number of the money that is needed over decades to rebuild puerto rico. little by little the country is getting better, but out of the money that has been allocated, take for example, the $15 billion, two billion have arrived to puerto rico for projects. so everything is going slower not because of the government of puerto rico, but because not a penny -- it's actually agencies.
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>> great to have you. thank you. luis miranda. what will progressive candidates do in states like pennsylvania, wisconsin and ohio to win in 2020? back in a minute. 2020 back in a minute just go together.
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i have been thinking about who is going to take back the white house and win the democratic nomination next spring and go on to defeat donald trump in 2020. what if the democrats nominated the key progressive issues of today, getting rid of the electoral college and increasing the size of the u.s. supreme court and creating a health system and paying a significant chunk of college tuition and legalizing abortion laws and presenting immigration policies that has an interpretation of open borders and including socialists in the democratic coalition. suppose the one pick is going up against donald trump and how will they strike the voters in this electoral swing state with pennsylvania, michigan, minnesota, ohio and even virginia and north carolina. it's hard to identify a leading candidate resisting the move to the left.
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all seem determined to hold their own with the young strongly progressive and minority voters expected to make up the voting base in the early states. i have a strong memory of how this pattern of memory the last time the party went hard to the left. 1972. george mcgovern was the nominee and everyone enjoyed themselves and they were gid we excitement even if not that well organized. i was there watching the delegation and dancing in a circle, they were so happy. the democrats lost 49 states that richard nixon who not only carried the electoral college, but 60% of the popular vote. it can all be different on election night in 2020. trump could get licked no matter who they put up. these are facts to consider. almost half the party elected is moderate or conservativement. to the right of the progressives. two, voters were to the right of the progressives and so are the
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straight republican voters that they might need. bottom line, going into the primaries is not the same as going to the country. that's "hardball" for now. it really is. all in with chris hayes starts right now. >> tonight on all in -- >> the muller report i wish covered the oranges, how it started. the beginning. >> the white house gets squirrely on the mueller report. partake a look at the orange or the oranges of the investigation. >> democrats demand the release. >> they will never be satisfied. they are sore losers. >> the white house stonewalling congress. >> we have an unprecedented situation. >> amid the subpoena votes from the new house majority. >> what is next? putting nuclear codes in instagram dms? >> they have not come to $91