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>> my party refused to compromise. i regret and that i can no longer sit for this party. >> oh, don't go. come on. >> so tonight the future of the united kingdom and its relationship with the european union remains unknown. that's our broadcast for tonight. you can catch me back here at 1:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. eastern. thank you for being with us and good night from nbc news headquarters in new york. what a weird news day this has been. seriously, we have odd news days now and it happens, we have news days with unexpected of twists and turns and stuff. we rarely get stuff this weird just like over the -- here you go. make of this of what you will. >> take a look at the oranges of the investigation, the
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beginnings of that investigat n investigation. the mueller report i wish covered the oranges, how it started. >> i had no idea it started with oranges. >> now it all makes sense. everybody has been teasing him of his makeup tone. it was a signal of the oranges, the oranges? the president mentioning the citrus beginning and i am sure they are juicy. what the heck was that? it was not just one time, he kept going on and on about the oranges. >> that was very weird. >> that came in the midst of the president doing a public 180. public u-turn on whether or not he wants the mueller report to be released. does the public have the right to see the mueller report.
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president trump replied to that question, quote, "i don't mind, i told the house if you want, let them see it, let it come out, let people see it. i want to see the report. you know who wants to see it, tens of millions of people." the president was asked if he wants to see the mueller report completely released. the president responded "it would not bother me at all." today, light have dawned o oon on -- literally, within the past two weeks, he's been like let it all out, i can't wait to see it
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and now he's like why do they want to see it? it is a disgrace that they want to see it. >> what would occur to you in the mueller report? today was the deadline to release by congress set by jerry nadler and five other chairmen in the house. willi william barr blew off that deadline as he continues to sit on that report and allows no one to see it. according to democrats and congress, barr should connect have the report subpoenaed tomorrow. congressman jerry nadler and the other chairman have now said attorney general barr this letter. on wednesday, april 3rd, 2019, the house judiciary committee will begin the process. that's tomorrow. >> while we hope to avoid
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resorting the processes, if the department is unwilling to produce the report to congress in unredacted form, we'll have no choice but to take action. during your confirmation you stated your goal is to provide as much transparencies as i can in consistent of the law. >> so this is them saying hey listen, we are going to subpoena you, we prefer not to, you said you are going to be transparent. if you are going to be transparent here, don't tell us there is grand jury material in it. that means you can't look at it. if there is grand jury material, you need to get the court order so the court can allow the release of that grand jury material. you ought to be doing that. another point in the letter to
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william barr today, jerry nadler's recent conversation with barr about the mueller report. the redactions made in accordance of rule 6(e). they are basically letting us know what their surmising from barr's comment thus far is the mueller report is going to be redacted on the grounds that it contains a ton of grand jury information which william barr is taking upon himself to cut out, not only before he shows it to the public but even before congress. the democrats want him to get a court order allowing for that grand jury information to be closed.
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that has happened in every other investigation. that's what democrats and congress would like to happen now. no response from the attorney general whatsoever. democrats today also included a long legal analysis from the attorney general explaining on what grounds they believe should see the unredacted version of the report and why they need to see the report now. why is there some urgency as to their requests? barr continues to sit on it for going on two weeks now. because i think that portion of the democrats letter to barr exploding like a little bit of a firework, that legal analysis that they sent him starts off at the top with this. the attorney general's letter indicates that president trump may have criminally obstructed the department's investigation
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obstruction in the 2016 elections." it is difficult to over state the seriousness of the action. these are not only matters of addressing the harm that has occurred. these are urgent, ongoing cor a concerns. multiple open investigations referred by the special counsel's office to other u.s. attorneys may implicate the president or his campaign, transition and inauguration or businesses, these important inquiries could be compromised if the president is seeking to interfere with them. >> so in other words, hand it over. >> they lay out in details why all of the different categories of redaction, the attorney
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general says he's going through stuff right now before he allows anyone to see it and they go into details why none of those category of redactions should apply to a report that is released to congress. not the grand jury stuff and not the classified material or the ongoing material. all that stuff is handled by congress with sensitive documents. but again this is a fight now. this is the democrats trying to pry loose the mueller report in its unredacted form. it is 11 days since mueller submitted it. tomorrow unless it is shook loose from the attorney general's office, they're telling us we are going to get the first subpoena from the mueller's report. tomorrow should be a big day, tick-tock. if that's not enough for one day. we are also now in the midst of an ongoing show down of the administration and the democratic-led congress over these new whistle blower claims,
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over ruling security staff to hand out security clearances to people who would otherwise not be approved for them. while security clearance procedures may seem like an arcade thing while this boils down to. the trump administration, the us trump's white house had been insisting on making classified information available to people who are considered to be too much of a risk to handle such information. they been over ruling career security staff in order to do it. today in the midst of that ongoing standoff, we got a new story to put in this quiver. tonight a charging document in a florida court indicates that the president's private club in florida, mar-a-lago was just this weekend, the site of a very strange security breach of its own. a secret service affidavit filed in court today states that a woman, this weekend on saturday,
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presented herself at mar-a-lago at the secret service perimeter check point there. she told the agents she wanted to use the pool. she showed two different chinese passports to the secret service agents at mar-a-lago. despite the feedback they were not clear of what she's doing there. they never the less let her in. she was brought to the front desk in a valet driven golf course and having arrived at the front desk, the receptionist found that the woman could not give any real or plausible explanation as to what she was actually doing there. >> luckily the mar-a-lago receptionist was on the case. that receptionist called the secret service back to say, i don't know why you let this person in but she does not seem to be here for any legitimate reasons. the secret service questioned
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her again. she wanted to talk about chinese u.s. economic relations with the trump's family. even though they let her in because she wanted to use the pool, she didn't have a swim suit on her but they did find that she was carrying four cell phones and extra hard drive and lap a laptop and a thumb drive. she brought all of that stuff in the president's private club during the president's visit this weekend. again, luckily the receptionist was on the case. so we are protecting america. i mean this comes hot in the hills of news that another woman was markieting access at mar-a-lago for a price. she was markieting a package to chinese nationals. the deal was you would pay her cash money and she would get you
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to florida and get you into mar-a-lago and get you access to trump's officials or trump's family members or the president himself. she's the ruling chinese communist parties and she owns day spas across florida. he was the original owner of robert kraft and other owners recently related to the prostitution there. what could possibly go wrong? i will say for my money all of this latest mar-a-lago stuff pails against the time that president trump allows all paying guests at mar-a-lago dinner to sit in on a make-shift situation room as he and shinzo abe strike thategize.
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that's the one where staffers and weighters weaiters were gat around. the staffers and weighteaiters using flash lights so they can read it clearly. >> i am sure those phones definitely have no cameras on them whatsoever. they were definitely flashlights phones. i am sure it is fine to have them illuminating classified documents in that moment. i i am sure everything was super secure. as democrats and congress continue to raise concerns of the trump administration ability to handle national security matters. today the oversight committee led by elijah cummings approved the subpoena from the security director from the white house's personal office. a whistle blower was brought to the attention of congress.
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this is an 18-year official, she worked for the office of administration and the office of the president. she looks over people's background checks and decide if they get security clearances. she has a list over two dozen cases and which career officials recommended against issuing a clearance for someone applying for the trump administration and on more than two dozen occasions, she said there was interventions from the trump's white house to over rule those officials and disregard the red flags that came up in people's background checks and give people clearances otherwise they would not have been able to obtain. congress is now investigating her claims. her former supervisor at the white house personnel's office, he was subpoenaed by congress. subpoenas were also approved related to the royal controversy over the next census, the 2020
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census a census. this is an issue which the administration have been absolutely ripped apart by multiple court ruling already and congress is at it too. congress subpoenaed wilbur ross and william barr. they're all subpoenaed to answer questions and provide do you means about how the trump administration has handled or mishandled this issue about the 2020 census. on the issue of immigration and citizenship today which is what the census fight is about, today for the first time a 2020 presidential candidate unveiled a complex, detailed, far reaching immigration policy proposal. that was unveiled by julian
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castro. on an online post unveiling this policy post today, castro in his trademark mix of extremely eloquent and resolutely practical, he explains part of it this way. "last year the trump administration told americans if he would just be cruel enough to separate little children from their parents, that cruelty would deter for family havies f seeking asylum from our border." it turns out this is wrong. more families are coming. their policy of cruelty is a failu failure. we should choose compassion instead. julio castro, former development under president obama. he as a remarkable family story to tell to backup this policy roll-out today. his grandmother was an orphan.
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she made it through the third grade and she ended up working her whole life as a cook and a babysitter. when that daughter was ready to give birth to twins, grandmother paid delivery bills was winning a contest. those twin boys grew up in san antonio, texas, they went to law school. joaquin still serves in the u.s. congress today. he became the youngest city counselor, he became mayor of san antonio. he was the youngest mayor in the country. in 2012, a rising national star
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in the democratic party. he was tapped the give the keynote address at the 2012 democratic national convention. >> the american dream is not a sprint or even a marathon. it is a relay. our families don't always cross the finish line in the span of one generation but each generation passes onto the next, the fruits of their labor. my grandmother never owned a house, she cleans other people's house so she can afford to own her own. she saw her daughter becoming the first of her family graduating college. my mother fights hard forsivi c rights. instead of a mop, i can hold this microphone. >> that was julio castro. within two years, he was asked by president obama to become the youngest member of the obama cabin cabinet.
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>> first time most americans heard this man speak is when he gives a speech at the democratic national convention two years ago. they saw this young guy, pretty good speaker, not bad looking. talk about how america is the only place where historic can be possible. i watched and thought, that's not bad. castro's grandmother came into this country from mexico. she worked as a babysitter or a cook. whatever she had to do to keep a roof over her family's head. for her, a home is more than a house. home is a source of pride and security and maybe one day the kids grow up in that home and is able to go onto get a great education and become the mayor of san antonio and a member of the president's cabinet.
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>> after take that job, julio castro made the short list of potential running mates for 2016. he did not get the running mate gig. we know how 2016 worked out. julio castro is running of his own accord. he's 44 years old. he's the only latino who's declaring candidate in the presidential race. his people's first immigration policy which he unveiled today, proposal on immigration issue from anybody who's running on the democratic field. she's prosing whposing what he marshal plan for central america, addressing the dire conditions of central america that sends people north to a dark country out of desperation. >> let me say one other thing before we bring on julio castro
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for tonight's interview. you may have noticed there are gazillion people running for president. it is turning out to be a crowded and an exciting contest of the democratic nomination even before anybody had jumped ic in. as far as we can tell the largest field of candidates to ever run from a major party was the field of 17 republicans who competed their party nomination for 2016. we know how that worked out. the republican party looked at those 17 options and show donald trump of all people. he went onto win the general election in november. now if you are trying to han handicap for the field of the con contenders, you are trying to gain right now who may win against trump. the 2016 race, not only donald
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trump was not favor to win, he was not included in most polls. nobody was asking about him when they were poll ing the race. the guy that's widely considered to be the front runner was mit romney. he did not end up running in 2016. mike huckabee and sarah palin at this point of the race were considered top theier contender. neither of them ended up running and rudy giuliani, seriously, he did in fact run for president in 2008. he won nothing. he didn't win a single contest or did not even get close. who's ahead in the polls for the democratic nomination at this point, tells you little of who's going to win in all likelihood. also, again looking at history,
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having this organic field of candidate running does seem to have a net positive when it comes to that party chances winning in november. every year is different and there are exceptions to every rule. if you are going to try to draw patterns of big field races, it looks good for that party. 17 republican candidates since 2016. a record for either party. their ultimate nominees got the nomination and went onto wins the presidency against hillary clinton. the biggest field of democrats ever put forward was the field of 16 candidates, the candidates put up in 1976. so many democrats ran in 1976 that literally new candidates were joining the race and even after the new hampshire's prime r prime -- primaries. >> it was a ferocious campaign with everyone you can think of running and the competition is stretching on and on and the lead changing hands a million
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times. as the republican emerged in 2016 to take the white house in the fall and so to 1976 with the biggest field of democrats, pick the nominee and emerging to win. >> i know it has become fashionable of the size of the democratic field and to make light of every new entry on the race. >> i can name you even on top of that 15, i can name you five more people who i think probably run and will have a good shot at themselves. but as the country now takes the time to meet all of these candidates and hear what they have to offer. you will hear from julio castro here in a moment. do not win of the amount of work it takes us all to get to know
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all of these candidates this year as more and more keeps on jumping into the race. >> history suggests that the size of the democratic field is one of the democratic party's greatest asset. >> julio castro is here tonight. i am very excited to have him here. stay with us. ith us exactly, nothing. they're completely different people, that's why they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual. they'll only pay for what they need! [ gargling ] [ coins hitting the desk ] yes, and they could save a ton. you've done it again, limu. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ now kayak and opentable let you earn travel rewards every time you dine. earn points with each restaurant reservation on opentable and redeem them for hotel discounts on kayak.
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very pleased to say joining us now live in the studio is julio castro, a young city councilman and mayor of the the city of texas. now he's running to be the democratic nominee for president of the united states. secretary castro, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me >> let me ask you about being 44 years old and running for president, if you won and became president through this campaign, you would be the youngest president ever elected since jfk. is your youth part of what you have to offer as a candidate? >> i think so. when i go out there, i travel the country. what i hear is people want a new generation of leadership, they want a voice of a new generation. during this election inspiring young people to get out and vote like we saw in 2018.
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had a much bigger rate in 2014. that's going to be important in 2020. i see that. also, rachel, in many modern era of presidential politics since 1960, jfk was 43 and clinton was 46 and barack obama was 46 or 47. >> i don't see that as particularly ground breaking, right? that's the norms. the oldest of those democrats that was elected was jimmy carter. you pointed out that crowded election and i think he was 50 or 51? that's the norms more than the exception. >> part of the way it dove tails for me because of your experiences, and the unconventional path. you have been a cabinet secretary and before that a big city mayor. people con exfoliate of your brother's experience that he's a
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congressman that you had been a congressman too. >> she shaved his beard. >> it is a good point for differentiating between the two of you. >> people ask me all the time every time, we have a democratic field, what distinguishes you. i am going to tell them i am the only federal executive member. if you are president, ru a federal exec tiutive and in cha of the federal government. being mayor is about getting things done. people are tired of this administration's inability to get things done. i see my track record of getting things done as a real positive and something that i think people rg goiare going to respo as the months go by. >> one of this things i know
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that you are proud of as your time was universal pre-k program for the city. you paid for it by raising the sales tax over eighth of a percent. is that the kind of thing that you think can be scaled nationally. does that experience in that city give you a sense on how to tackle that. >> it does. we did have voters in texas to raise the sales tax by .08%. we can see what was missing in the city was the kind of management that we needed to have the prosperity that we want it. i am asking all of you to pay on average $7.81 cents more a year so that 2200s, people can get
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full education. if you paint the vision of what we can be, people will accept that. i think that does translate to in america we need to invest in people and greater skills and education. i had the experience as mayor with working with people who did not agree with you, even though i am a progressive and a democrat. i came up in a non-partisan contact. i used to knock on doors and talking to them the importance of neighborhood safety and s is participati aspirations of the company. because this president is so devd divisive. >> do you think you can carry texas? >> i do.
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i believe the future of the democratic party is 70 electoral votes. the 29 electoral votes of florida. if i am a nominee, i am confident that i can carry all three of those things. >> beto o'rourke declared his nomination. he has run statewide in texas, you have not. i the two of you have serious claims to democratic voters. how do you negotiate that? >> well, first, i think he's a fantastic guy. my brother and i were happy to support him and i wish him well in this racism we got 15 or 16 candidates. i am going to go out there and work hard. i think one of the things that distinguishes me is that i actually run something. i have executive experience. people are looking for that. i also articulated a strong, positive and powerful vision for
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the future of our country. at the end of the day we are going to go and work hard. i am not a front runner right now but i was not born a front runner. i didn't grow up on the west side of an an tosan antonio. i want to tell them every single day i will work hard so their children can get a good education and healthcare. >> this is julian castro, he's running for president. stick with us, we'll be right back. t back i have a vision correction number,
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i . there was a time president trump blurted out code word level intelligence to russian diplomats in the oval office. the white house was warned that mike flynn was juvulnerable wit blackmail. there was a time the japane japanese -- handling classified information had not been a strong suit for this white house. >> now we have a new whistle blower who says his career raises red flags, applications.
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career security staffers, notice for those flags and raise concerns. >> those rulings were ignored. we know that's the situation you are in right now. imagine you are going to be the next president who has to follow in the footsteps of that. with that issue and so many think of the trump administration, how do you cram the geanie back into the bottle. back with us now is former secretary, mr. secretary castro. thank you for being here. >> on the security clearance issue, i don't know national security backgrounds on these sorts of issues. i want to get a response. so this controversial that's happening between democrats and congress who are upset of the way trump administration hand
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handling it. >> it is ironic. based on how he raised his campaign, clamming minute ton and about his he mails. this is the sloppest when it comes to handling classified information and these issues are related to national security. my hope is that congress will continue to assert its authority and get a hold of documents to investigate exactly what is happening in terms of the white house, over ruling the career staff that was made recommendations on certain individuals should get and security experience or not. >> you they think so punsing what the norms were. before this administration busted through all these norms. clearance and this process but a whole bunch of other processes within the federal government.
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i also see that as one of the reasons that you know i am well prepared for this office because i was there before. i had the opportunity to see the administration and doing these things in the right way. we need to get back to that. >> we are starting to see a another standoff take shape between the con depressional -- >> how hard do you think democrats should push on that? >> the american people are with democrats on this. poll after show it has shown people want to see the full report. they won't even say how many pages exactly this report is. they summarized with only four ages, probably hundreds of pages worth of the report. so democrats are keep on rushing about that. there is no reason they should
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let up on that. sometimes the issue comes out and people ask, when he will, do the folks out on the trail or iowa or new hampshire. >> if they ask you about the huler report, what people do ask about is accountability. thigh want accountability of government. fundamentally that's what this issue is about. >> you unveiled our immigration proposal today which was of a comprehensive proposal. talk about the prospect of putting in people first. i feel like immigration policies since the bush's administration, there has been a pointless ta talking point of comprehension immigration reform that has never has motivating sources behind it. do you feel like you can transcend what has become not just partisan standoff here, it
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fee feels. >> i believe so. that's what i am trying to do with the people first, immigration plan. >> i hope they'll go to juiliana. i am not buying ip to tips. i said that we should be decriminalized and people that are coming here cross ing the border. we should treat this as a civil matter. we need to end detention, i don't think we should be putting people in cages. we need to increase the number of refugees that we take into this country. it is some what politically incorrect to say for people on the right but we need a lot of these immigrants. several industries in this country benefited already from
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their labor. our unemployment rate right now is 3.8% or 3.9%. >> they can't find the labor that they need. we see the country around the world and have a population and baby boomers who are drawing down and more. we need a young awork force. this nation is going to be begging for immigrants to come for this great country. we have feem that apeople for p flee the region. i believe that our order has been more secure than it has ever been. we continue to make investment sos that it stays in here. >> i want to choose compassion.
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of the process. there is this dance you have to go through and you are not even in consideration. i enjoy going out to the people and that process is so much about sort of the decision as a candidate as it should be. it is all behind the scenes. that's not really my type of politics. >> it is interesting though because it is the most antidemocratic part of our presidential nomination. more so than the electoral college. the vice president chosen behind the scene. >> i think he chose were well. governor kane and senator kane, they had a great specious. i don't mean to say if there is anything wrong with that process. >> that's an odd process. >> last question for you. part of the qualifying process
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this year for democrats party making an early debate. >> you have not hit that yet? >> it has accelerated and really picked up the last couple of weeks. i am 65,000 contributions. fun raising working hard, i am not taking any hack money or federal lobbyists, i want people to know that -- we have not hit it. >> one last question for you. >> the elephant in the room in terms of democratic field of the question of whether or not biden is going to run. tonight in the new york times, another couple coming forward. i wonder how do you feel of these allegations been made. how do you think they should be
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handled? >> well, you know it is god that today in 2019 that we take women who come forward like these women are and talking about how uncomfortable they have been made seriously. >> for the longest time whether it is politics or entertainment, different industries, people have not been taking it seriously. >> the former president and vice president had said that's not what he intended. i think that's not what he recall. that's for the american people to decide based on the statements people have made and what they believe. >> you think he'll be disqualified after substantiated. >> i don't think he intended. i know he's a good man. i don't believe he would have intended to cause discomfort. i have not had the opportunity to read the newest allegations so i am speaking without
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information about that. >> but at least based on what i have seen, you know, i think it is a decision for him to make and the american people to make. secreta secreta secreta secretary julian castro. it is an honor to have you this late in the studio. >> thank you. >> all right, we'll be right back. that's two. down. down. get down, get down.
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from robert mueller. barr had been sitting on that report for 11 straight days. the house to obtain the report as of tomorrow. so it will not come as a surprise, the house judiciary's process has started to begin at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. expect that to light the fuse on some fireworks in washington tomorrow. that does it for us. we'll see you again tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, rachel. the question for everyone is, what is william barr doing? we know he's not responding to the timeline and that he says he's working on redactions of the mueller report, and in the next few weeks it's going to come out, but by what is he doing, i mean is he working to try to protect the president? are his redactions designed to protect the president? is the delay designed to protect