now, it's time for "weekends with alex." good morning. >> good morning to you. and have a good weekend yourself. thanks for getting us started. a good weekend from all of you. 7:00 just about here in the east, 4:00 a.m. out west. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." what happens in vegas. president trump unplugged and on the attack. >> more mainstream, the party of open borders, witch hunts and delusions. anti-semitism. >> knnew reaction to israel, th mueller report and democrats. truth about the border. sorting through the issues of the escalating problems. who is to blame? and are there solutions? the former president with a warning to fellow democrats. brexit chaos. why americans should care and

how does the politics of trump intersect with the drama. new this hour, the president doubling down on the anti-immigration theme that was fueling his campaign. the administration closed a cargo lane on a bridge into el paso, texas. agents were redirected to process a serge of asylum seekers. in las vegas, the president spoke to a crowd of influential jewish supporters. a group protested the speech. government data shows a historic increase of families showing up at the border. and here's what the president said. >> the asylum program is a scam. some of the roughest people you've ever seen. people that look like they should be fighting for the ufc.

>> this comes as government lawyers argue it will take up to two years to reunite the migrant families separated at the border. the president repeating his claim that mexico is just now apprehending migrant immigrants. >> the president of mexico, because they stepped up. and now, they are apprehending people on their southern border. walls build good neighbors, right? we begin with white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. a good sunday morning to you, my friend. is this what we're seeing from the president ala campaign mode? >> very much so. this was a president fired up in a couple key areas. he had just visited the border. we know that immigration, the wall, as he describes it, are core issues for him. he believes it's a strength for his political base, even though it is dedeviivisive and controversial. and you had a group of jewish-americans, who are

active, advocating for issues of concerns domestically but also on behalf of israel and international issues. and the president was very much trying to set up democrats as being insensitive to those issues. and he made some very strong claims against democrats before a group of people who are largely supportive of the president and certainly some of his policies. in las vegas, president trump going all-in for 2020. >> don't let the democrats take it away from us. >> reporter: aligning himself with a powerful lobby of american jews who advocate for israel. >> we got you something that you wanted. >> reporter: touting his high-stakes decision to annex the golan heights. >> bing, it was done. >> reporter: and moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. >> i did it.

>> reporter: the president also leveled a withering charge. >> democrats have allowed the terrible scourge of anti-semitism to take root in their party. >> reporter: openly mocking ilhan omar, who apologized after making anti-semitic comments. >> a special thanks to representative omar of minnesota. oh, i forgot. she doesn't like israel. >> reporter: but his own energy expanded, as he talked about his border visit friday, delivering a severe and unwelcoming message to migrants. >> our country is full. can't come in. i'm sorry. >> reporter: ultimately concerned about his own race. >> with your help on november 3rd, 2020 -- >> reporter: asking this influential audience to stand with him.

it was a supportive crowd. there were a couple of protesters briefly at the beginning who were protesting israel's occupation. that's one of the things that the president had supported the golan heights that israel annexed back in 1981. and the larger issue of immigration played out in a great deal of the president's comments. in part, perhaps, because he had just come from the border. in part, because what was on his mind, as he was traveling back from las vegas. he was tweeting a series of new policies, if you will, re-emphasizing border security. he is saying on twitter he was redeploying 750 agents to the border. this would be to try to deal with what he calls a surge of migrants. he cautioned everyone that this would mean commercial and individual people trying to pass through the border, to expect delays. a traffic warning to the international community on the southern border on the united states. the president arguing those border agents who work in the

ports of entry are needed elsewhere. it's also a way of splitting the difference. he did not close the border, which he threatened to do. and this is a way he can cause some difficulties there, while ordering this issue and trying to put pressure on mexico to do more. those long lines at the border do hamper individuals, businesses, commerce. and that's a problem. it's a problem that people are living with. and he's trying to put more pressure on mexico to do more. and there's a mixed reaction about whether mexico is, in fact, doing more, or if they've been doing it along the way and the president is citing some of their actions. more aggression, more sort of this animated approach from the president when it comes to the border and creates controversy, for sure. >> thanks for that. joining me, now, two congressional reporters. molly hooper and melanie from politico. let's get to the threats and the

actions the president and his administration have taken on immigration. from trying daca protections and birthright citizenship, and tighten the border. is this what his base wants to hear? is that why the president keeps repeating these threats? >> yeah. it's exactly what his base wants to hear. it's not always what his own republican party wants to hear. just this week with the threat to close the border, created so many headaches in the republican party. i think it really reflects a sense that, trump thinks this is a political winner for him. he will keep talking about this no matter what. they wanted to talk about the economy, republicans did, in the last election. but trump was talking about immigration in 2020. and the way he laid out the policies he tried to push

forward to, reflect how he is struggling and frustrated not able to implement his own agenda. >> do you agree this is what the 2020 trumpian campaign will be all about? he won it in 2016. is he feeling, it's going to work this time, too? >> to a certain extent, yes. he is realizing it's tough to beat an article two branch of government. when you're the executive branch of government, you have to contend the legislative branch. and all of the policies you ticked off, yes, he may want to do it. as the ceo of the company, he may get that through. if you have to contend with a congress as divided as our current congress is, not only with democrats and republicans, but within the republican party. keep in mind, immigration is not necessarily a liberal or conservative issue. it's much more of a regional issue. and a lot of the republicans who lost their races in 2018 in

california, the central valley republicans, like jeff denim and others, immigration played a key role because there is a huge community of undocumented workers who they were working with and were dealing with. so, this is not a strictly party issue. it's very much so a regional issue. and it's unclear what the strategy is, in terms of who the president is focusing on. as melanie said, closing down the border, if you look at the republicans who came out against that this last week, rob portman, a key republican senator, said that was a terrible idea. again, it's unclear what the strategy is and how it will help all those republicans up for re-election in the senate. >> the president spoke about his plan to cut $450 million in aid to el salvador and honduras and guatemala. hear what he says here. >> how dare you do that?

that money is used for all this -- no, it's not. it's largely stolen. if the government wanted to, i have a feeling they could stop caravans from forming. we have people that work with them, that say we should be sending much more money. >> melanie, i've spoken with experts, republicans and democrats. all of whom have been uniform, saying that cutting aid will only encourage more central americans to try to reach the u.s. >> yeah. i talked to experts who said the same thing, that the trump administration is inadvertently creating incentives for more migrants to come here. cutting off aid creates an unlivable situation in these countries. and trump's threats to trade asylum laws makes people want to

get here before the laws are changed. that's why we're seeing the surge of migrants at the border. >> the president also repeating his attack that the democratic party is anti-semitic and that ilhan omar does not like israel. this is a day after a man threatened to kill her. she responded on the twitter. here's what she wrote. my lord, forgive my people, for they do not know. what do you think about how democrats are countering this rhetoric from the president, molly? >> this is tough. they do have, within their party, there has been a challenge over how to tackle the issue of israel because there are several democrats who have come out, several leading democrats who have come out to be more favorable toward the palestinians, which, of course, causes a huge eruption among the party. and democrats are seen as the party that has attracted jewish voters in the past. and now, republicans are trying

to take that over. they are appealing to jewish voters, which is interesting. and again, this is an issue that democrats tried to wrestle with just last month, when they were coming up with a resolution to put on the floor, to go back to remarks that representative omar made, that seemed to be anti-semitic. it's something they haven't been able to get their arms around yet. i have a feeling that's something they will discuss at their retreat in leesburg. the president has touted his relationship with benjamin netanyahu. here's what he said about that. >> i stood with your prime minister at the white house to recognize israeli sovereignty over the golan heights.

>> the president telling jewish republicans that netanyahu is, quote, your prime minister. how do you think that was received in the room and nationally in both parties? >> this is another example of president trump trying to move in lockstep with israel. he's showed support to netanyahu. he moved the embassy to jerusalem. recently, he declared recognition of the golan heights territo territory. and i think it's an example of how the president is trying to create the divisions in the democratic party and peel away the jewish democratic voters and lawmakers who are unhappy with some of the comments we've seen from ilhan omar and others. and he is seizing on that to peel away the democratic voters. >> ladies, good to see you both. >> thank you. a revealing look at the white house relationship with robert mueller. wait until you hear what trump's former lawyer said about what was happening behind the scenes. . i don't keep track of regrets.

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new this morning, the president lashing out at the special counsel and his report. he fired off seven tweets saying that robert mueller's team was ran by angry democrats and millions were wasted on a witch hunt. this comes after revealed the special counsel's investigators were frustrated that the attorney general misrepresented their findings.

joining me now, katie fang. we have to get into this one because this is getting big here. in one of the seven tweets the president said, quote, i have not read the mueller report, even though i have every right to do so. first off, is that true? does the president have legal authority to view the report before congress? would he claim executive privilege to do so? and if he did so, what's the fallout? >> alex, normally executive privilege would be asserted to be kept out. you want to assert that so that you would have things redacted. what we know from attorney general barr, he announced a couple of weeks ago, that he is not going to be submitting the mueller report to the white house to assert executive privilege. we know from john dowd doing his podcast, that there was cooperation between the trump legal team and the mueller team. and they did not exert executive privilege. it will be curious to see if executive privilege has the

mueller report redacted but that is up to attorney general barr to decide what he wants to do about that. >> against the advice of his lawyers, couldn't the president say, you're my attorney general. i want to see that report right now. he could and barr would have to -- would he have to respond and do so? >> there's portions of the mueller report that are not going to be accessible to the president of the united states. and so, if trump decides to force the hand of attorney general barr, he has to put barr in a really uncomfortable position to decide what he wants to do. >> okay. what about the president's former attorney john dowd? he revealed that mueller's team could consult with trump's team. he would let them know when the media got stories wrong. mueller agreed the president never obstructed justice. take a listen. here it is. >> the hard part about it is they don't like to be in a position to make a public

statement. so, i had to go by his office to drop something off. and we met outside. and he said, in code, don't believe everything you read in the papers. i said, i got it. okay. and you know, i could then say, you know, i talked to the special counsel and there's no basis for it. >> first off, the biggest claim here from dowd, that mueller knew the president did not obstruct justice. and there was revelations from his team that there was damning evidence on this issue. is this procedure unusual? it's hard to understand the prosecutors and the defense attorneys discussing evidence like that. >> look, the bottom line is this -- there's a level of cooperation that existed between the mueller team and the trump legal team. that's okay. it doesn't have to be antagonistic for an investigation to proceed. what's key about this, for dowd

to make a statement, i don't think it's a correct one from what we understand. robert mueller never said there was no obstruction of justice. he said there was no exoneration when it came to that claim. dowd claiming that is what was discussed between the parties is not accurate. that's not a true statement. we know that to be the case, based on what the mueller report is going to be revealing. >> in the same interview, dowd explained also what he told mueller about the president's attacks on jeff sessions and rod rosenstein. can we reason to that? oh. i'm sorry. we don't have that. he said, i don't think they liked the scolding of sessions. i addressed that with bob, and he said, they're subordinates. he's their boss. weigh in on that. would that work in court? >> john dowd said in the podcast that sessions and rosenstein, quote, sold out the president of

the united states. that's an aggressive statement to be made. and it dove tatails, with did h obstruct justice with rosenstein, comey. there's a lot to be out there. for dowd to be speaking so publicly and candid, is fascinating. there was a decision that came out on friday from the d.c. circuit court of appeals. and it states that the entirety of the mueller report is likely not going to be given to even congress at this point in time because of the fact that there is a rule of criminal procedure, federally, that prevents grand jury information from being released. we may see a battle in the supreme court of the united states, whether congress gets to see those unredacted portions of the mueller report, dealing with grand jury evidence. >> i think i agree. that's where it's going to go. katie phang. thank you so much. the president attacks democrats and mocks asylum seekers. are there any solutions at this point?

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the president, bringing his border message to las vegas. him doubling down at the emergency on the southern border, saying the u.s. cannot accept anymore migrants. >> and i told my people yesterday, our country's full. we're full. our system is full. our country is full. can't come in. our country is full. what can you do. we can't handle it anymore. our country is full. can't come in. it's simple. >> victoria, the director of civic engagement at the university of texas and an msnbc contributor. you heard the president paint the picture of the crisis at the border. is the issue there as big as he says? >> alex, i would characterize what's going on at the border as ranging from a full-blown crisis to a really, really bad situation. in terms of the full-blown

crisis, for the migrants and asylum seekers, it is a crisis. the humanitarian conditions they are facing are abominable. women, children, not having what they need for their livelihood. the overcapacity in the border patrol stations at the shelters and the i.c.e. detention centers are at a crisis point. now, moving over into the situations for, say, cross-border commerce, here, the situation is really, really bad. we're in peak produce season right now. all of the trucks, the semis that are trying to cross over from mexico into the united states, are facing longer and longer wait times. in nogales, arizona, where i grew up in, we're seeing today, the one port of entry line that is dedicated to commerce, was shut down because they don't have the man power to process these trucks. we're seeing this across the border in texas, where they're rediverting manpower from the

trucking lanes to the border patrol stations. that's one. and in terms of everyday life, folks who go and come across the border, they may go across the border and go to school on the other side. or the dentist is on the other side of the border. in these cases where it might take an hour to cross the border, are facing six, seven, eight hours of borderline crossing times. the situation ranges from bad to a full-blown crisis. >> the situation you're describing threatens that he is shutting down the border and trying to build a wall. here, he is talking about the migrants seeking asylum. >> the asylum program is a scam. some of the roughest people you've ever seen. people that looked like they should be fighting for the ufc. i am very worried that i will be

accosted. i said back home, no, no. he'll do the accosting. >> i hate to ask you this. but your take on the president's rhetoric there is what? >> so, he is blaming the victim. he is blaming the folks trying to cross over. am i going to say there are no bad apples trying to cross over? i can't certify that. what i can speak to is the fact that what is needed is more resources at the border, to process asylum climbs. in order to suss out which are credible fear interviews that should be given due process, and which are not. in order to do that, you need more judges. you need more staff in terms of immigrations and customs. and what the trump administration has done, is pulled those back. so, if he's really serious about figuring out who has valid claims for asylum, something that is part of the u.s. law, then give the folks at the border, the resources to

actually carry out their job and interview these people and process them. >> look, the president is describing those coming across the border in the way he did, incredibly undignified way. you're saying you cannot say for certain there's not a bad app until the bun le in the bunch. right. but the vast majority are who? what are they seeking? >> these are people being pushed out of their country for different reasons. but i cite incredible violence in their home country. the drug wars in el salvador, nicaragua and guatemala. you have dire economic situations, coupled with the violence that these folks are facing. and they literally have no choice. it's the lesser of two evils. do i stay here and likely face death, of myself or my loved ones? or do i risk a trek across the

border? they're facing two difficult choices. when the president talks about, i'm going to stop providing aid to these countries so the folks will stop coming over, that's not what they should be doing, to address the violence in these countries, the economic situation. we need aid. the $20 billion that the president wants for the border wall, they would be better used in putting them into a marshal plan package for central america, instead of wasting it on a wall that people can dig under or put a ladder and climb over. >> how about the government report that will take two years to reunite migrant families separated at the border. what do you make of that? >> this is something triggered by the trump administration, by the zero tolerance policy. not well thought out. they said, if we put this into place, they will decrease the

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never before has a major political party been more outside the american mainstream than the democrats of today. now, the democrats have allowed the terrible scourge of anti-semitism take root in their party and their country. >> the president who took the stage in las vegas to present the keynote speech. joining me now, bishop garrison and brian darling. guys, good to see you on a sunday morning, as usual. as we get into this here, i'm curious what you think of the president's assessment that anti-semitism has taken root in the democratic party. >> good morning. thank you for having me, as

always. i do not agree with that. i think we do have a serious problem right now throughout the country, with issues of anti-semitism, as well as general hatred and hate speech, that we need to address as a country, and look for bipartisan methods and communities to get past this hurdle. i do not agree with the idea that it's taken hold or is somehow greater in the democratic party you would see anywhere. to the contrary, democrats have done an incredible job of reaching out across a myriad of cultural aspects to bring people together. >> i'm looking at stats from a.p. vote cast. and by a wide margin, 72% to 26% jewish voters broke for the democrats. there's a fact with 2018 votes calcula calculated. yesterday, the president brought up ilhan omar, who has been

critical of u.s. policy towards israel. let's listen to what he said. >> a special thanks to representative omar of minnesota. oh. oh. oh, i forgot. she doesn't like israel. i forgot. i'm so sorry. oh. she doesn't like israel, does she? i apologize. >> she said this one day after man was arrested trying to kill congressm congressman, brian. what do you think of this rhetoric? >> i think it's awful for anybody to threaten any member of congress. and it's a terrible thing. i'm okay with him pointing out through humor that she does. that congresswoman is not a fan of israel. and she did say some things that were anti-semitic that members

of her own party condemned her. i think it's okay to make fun of her and use humor to make fun of her. in this circumstance, her own party condemned her. and she has said some things that are considered anti-semitic by so many americans. >> how about, as i play for both of you what the president said about israeli prime minister netanyahu. take a listen to this. >> i stood with prime minister netanyahu. benjamin netanyahu. i stood with the prime minister at the white house to recognize the israeli sovereignty over the golan heights. >> he referred to netanyahu as their prime minister. keep in mind the criticisms that the president has levied against representative omar. what's your reaction to this? the tone, the demeanor, the way he delivers this. >> that crowd is very much in favor of benjamin netanyahu.

what he is saying is the guy you support, that you want to see win in israel. i think that's perfectly okay. everybody on the left wants to accuse the president of anti-semitism and racism and all these awful things. and that case, he was making the point, that there were many pro-israel jewish-americans who support netanyahu, because they think he is the best leader of that country. >> i want to quickly say, i think it's not democrats that are accusing the president of racism. i think it's the president that continues to make racist statements and continues to push forward policies that are not representative of what this country feels and what the country represents right now. >> let's change topics. i want to get to the president's finances here. the texas returns requested by congress this week. the president's new lawyer said

in a statement, chairman neal's request is a transparent effort by one political party trying to get to another party. why should the people believe this probe isn't, and i'm going to quote the president, another witch hunt? >> because candidates have done what they can to provide tax returns, until viewing the issues of senator bernie sanders and president trump, to be quite frank. i worry that a president that is not worth right and willing to provide their tax returns over the past, at least few years, is absolutely problematic. what is this individual attempting to hide? to use the idea that the irs is conducting an audit is not accurate. and the president said in the past he would, at some point, release his tax returns and now has failed to do so, is

problematic. >> why, brian, do you think the president does not release his tax returns? to bishop's point, he said he would repeatedly do it. he uses the word audit and says he can't. but he's not under audit. >> we doesn't have to. we have strong laws. >> that was not the question. the question is, why do you think he doesn't do it? because there is some degree of privacy that individuals are owed even when they're the president of the united states. >> why would he say, i'm going to do it. started saying it back in 2011. why doesn't he do it? >> he should be honest and say, i'm not going to give you my tax returns because i don't have to. the truth of the matter is, there's a degree of privacy he wants to preserve. he may be using other excuses for not releasing them.

but he doesn't have to. >> don't you think he had a to post about in terms of his wealth and philanthropic exclamations that the taxes will show that? >> the democrats want it for one reason and one reason only. they want to bash him and use it to knock him down for the 2020 election. they want congress to get his taxes to leak it to the president, so that information can be used against him in the next election. >> we've been asking for his taxes for months. for years now. like, this isn't something that just popped up within the last cycle. >> all right. listen, guys -- >> but american consider their tax returns to be one thing that the government just can't let out and put out in the public domain. you get a five-year penalty if you release them. >> every president since richard nixon -- richard was asked to do it, has released their tax returns. >> i want to get one more thing

in. i want to play for you both what president obama said in berlin yesterday. >> one of the things i do worry about sometimes among progressives in the united states, maybe it's true here, as well, is a certain kind of rigdty. and we create a circular firing squad. you start shooting at your allies. >> can i ask you to weigh in on that. what are your thoughts on what president obama said? >> my first thought is that it's wonderful to see a true world leader again speaking to a group of people. representing the best of what americans have to offer. i agree with what president obama is saying here. and i worry that it is potentially a problem in the current state of the democratic

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so the brexit deadline is five days away. it's a plan that could break up the european union and is favored by the president but there is still no agreement in the british parliament on how the uk should leave. >> the ayes to the right, 313. the nos to the left, 312. so the ayes have it. the ayes have it. >> so brexit was approved in a 2016 referendum by a very narrow margin of british voters. the lead was nigel farrage who

was embraced by candidate trump. joining me amy davidson sorkin. amy has written extensively about brexit so to say that you understand it is quite an accomplishment. let's get into this, though, in terms of what this is for trump. why does brexit appeal to him? >> to hear trump tell it, he was the prophet of brexit. he tells a really vivid story about the day before the 2016 referendum he was standing with reporters on the lawn of his golf course in scotland and called it, that he predicted brexit was going to happen. the problem is with a lot of trump stories that it's not exactly true. he actually arrived at turnberry, the day after the brexit referendum. but it is also true that he has tapped into -- his election

tapped into a lot of the same impulses as brexit did. the search for a lost, glorious past that probably never existed. the same sort of populist nationalism. and the extent that he's fed that, he's been a part of brexit, and perhaps more immediately for americans, he's going to find himself confrontinged with the question of -- which the brexiteers are confronted with now, what happens when a populist dream turns out to be a lie, turns ot to be a failure. what happens next to the voters who looked for that? in britain there's a lot of talk about the trail and about how the elites are actually undermining brexit rather than really looking at the way bre t brexiteers promise things that aren't possible and they can't deliver. it echos trump's rhetoric about the doeep state and they are

after you and want to undermine the popular will. so there are a lot of parallels. i think americans should look there and see how the different political parties manage to answer and address those questions. so far they haven't done a good job. >> a number of british writers believe that all this chaos around brexit supports trump's effort to undermine european unity. one columnist wrote lighthizer released washington's negotiating objective, starting with comprehensive market access for u.s. agricultural goods in the uk. translation, they want the right to fill our supermarkets with their chlorinated chicken. is this what it boils down to with trump? >> to the extent there's an idea we'll make easy trade deals in britain, there's an idea in britain that they can have both things. they can have access to this market and access to that market without being part of the eu.

it's complicated, admittedly complicated but trade encouraging system. so it's more than that. it's more than chickens. it's about what borders mean, what a country means, and one thing that's been part of the chaos in britain is that neither one of the major parties really maps on to these impulses, both the conservative party and the labor party have a remain wing and a leave wing so they're both divided among themselves and there hasn't really been an answer they have been able to come up with. >> which does not bode well for the deadline which looms five days with you. thank you so much. gold star father khizr khan talks about the president's immigration rhetoric straight ahead for you. immigration rhetoric straight ahead for you.

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