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that will do it for our wednesday night broadcast. we thank you for being with us. good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york.
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what you're doing. because i think the word spying could cause everybody in the cable news eco system to freak out. and i think it's necessary for
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you to be precise with your language here. you normally are. i'll give you a chance to be precise here. >> i'm not sure of all the connotations of that word you're referring to. unauthorized surveillance. i want to make sure there's no unauthorized surveillance. is that more appropriate in your mind? >> okay. so shortly before the attorney general's senate testimony, president trump told reporters that he believed barr would dig into the russia investigation and root out so-called treason. listen to this. >> it was an illegal investigation. it was started illegally. everything about it was crooked. everythingry single thing about it. dirty cops. these were bad people. this was an attempted coup.
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>> hopefully the attorney general mentioned it yesterday. he's doing a great job. getting started on going back to the origins of exactly where this all started, because this was an illegal witch-hunt and everybody knew it. and they knew it too. they got caught. what they did was treason. >> joining me now national political reporter for the associated press wanda summers. thank you for joining us so early. what do you make of attorney general bill barr's seemingly taking up republican talking points with his claim about spying on the trump campaign? you have senator chuck schumer going so far as saying he's spinning a conspiracy theory. things that we know full well have been completely totally and absolutely debunked. >> absolutely. i think it's clear that
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republicans and allies of president trump sees this as a moment of vindication. they long believed these investigations were motivated by political malice and see barr's statements as another stab of that going forward. democrats do not see it that way. my colleagues sat down with house speaker nancy pelosi who argued this is showing that attorney general william barr is not impartial in this. she says that, you know, the attorney general is the attorney general of the people, not of president donald trump and has really questioned his stances on this. >> this further shows why the mueller report should be released in full considering the fact he did only give that four page summary. now you see him claiming he wants to investigate possible illegal spying and that seems so much more political now in retrospect. the fact he wants to investigate, not necessarily the
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fbi, but spy agencies on a greater scale. we've heard the president of the united states denigrate the fbi over and over again. we heard the president denigrate the cia, his own intelligence agencies over and over again. does this feed into that? >> i think it absolutely does. i think that particularly with this white house we see unprecedented denigration or attacks on this law enforcement community that can undermine those institutions in this country. what's interesting while you heard william barr use the term spying he didn't offer evidence to back that up. you heard him in that clip that you guys played with talking about surveillance not necessarily spying. barr is someone who speaks precisely and quite careful with his words. it's possible as you listen to that that he wasn't quite clear the firestorm that these comments would spark and the political ramifications of something of this sort. >> it's so surprising he
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wouldn't be clear on something that, especially how inflammatory the word spying is. we're going to have to wait and see what happens. we'll talk more in a again. thank you so much. another top immigration official is leaving the trump administration as shakeups continue within the department of homeland security. the acting director of immigration and customs enforcement is going to be leaving his post as of tomorrow. he had been nominated to take over the post permanently but the president pulled the offer last week. meanwhile nbc news has learned that trump's son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner met with a small group of republican senators last night to discuss immigration and the chaos at the border. senators ron johnson and john cornyn were in attendance. shakeups at homeland security has put the spotlight on steven miller who the president says
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will not be taking over the department. >> have you ever thought about making steven miller the dhs secretary? >> steven is an excellent guy. he's a wonderful person. people don't know him. he's been with me from the beginning. he's a brilliant man. and, frankly, there's only one person that's running it. you know who that is? it's me. >> heading overseas, benjamin netanyahu has won a fourth consecutive term and fifth overall as israeli prime minister. he's set to become israel's longest serving leader. it affirms israel's continued right-wing slant and purees cold water on resolving the israel-conflict. turnout was the lowest in history. non-'s party admitted it hired and gave hidden cameras to 1,200 activists to monitor arab andy
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poling stations which is against israeli law. results show netanyahu's party won with a very narrow margin although taking a page out of his close ally president trump's playbook netanyahu is hailing it as a quote colossal victory. trump played a major role. netanyahu's office said trump called to warmly congratulate him and netanyahu thanked trump for his great support. recognition of jerusalem in the golan heights. trump spoke about it yesterday before heading to texas. >> i would like to congratulate netanyahu. looks like that race may have been won by him. it may be early. i hear he won it and won it in good fashion. he's been a great ally and a friend. >> will you release your middle east peace plan now? >> the fact that b.b. won we'll
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see some good action in terms of peace. look, everyone said and i never made it a promise but everybody said you can't have peace in the middle east. between israel and the palestinians. i think we have a chance and now we have another chance with b.b. having won. >> with two days left to the european deadline the european union gave an extension. it came during an emergency session in brussels that ended hours ago. the eu's 27 other leaders agreed to postpone brexit until october 31st after agreeing late last month to conditionally postpone the march 29th date until this friday. prime minister theresa may originally wanted a delay until june 30th but the eu leader said that was unrealistic. european counsel president donald tusk addressed the uk after the meeting saying quote please do not waste this time. the course of action will be entirely in the uk's hands.
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still ahead the treasury department missed the congressional deadline for turning over trump's tax returns. we'll talk about the likely next step for democrats. it's officially spring. but it does not look or feel like it. there are blizzard warnings in parts of the plains and midwest. meteorologist bill karins is going to have a check on that for us. you should be mad at airports. excuse me, where is gate 87?
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raising his own skepticism about the intentions of the move. while the secretary did not completely reject the idea of handing over the documents, he suggested he would not hold himself to any timeline. meanwhile the president was asked yesterday if he believes the law requires him to give congress his tax returns. >> there is no law. as you know i got elected last. >> i'm with the same issue. and. while i'm under audit, i won't do it. if i'm not under audit i would do it. i have no problem with it. while under audit i would not give my taxes. there's no rule whatsoever. >> it should be noted while the president has continued to cite his alleged audit as the reason not to release his tax records, no law prevents a taxpayer from releasing their returns while under audit nor do we have confirmation that the president is actually under audit. joining me now from washington,
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nbc legal snafanalyst, danny cevallos. what do you make of mnuchkin's response to why he's been so far unable to return the president's tax returns in a timely matter which was yesterday. >> mnuchkin has outright denied the request but run afoul of a congressional deadline which is not necessarily running afoul of the law. on one hand the general rule is taxpayer's secrecy must be safeguarded. there's an exception which says that the treasury department and the irs must turn over, shall turn over not may, shall turn over the information of any taxpayer. but it must be as trump's attorneys argue for a legitimate committee purpose. there's no general right of congress to expose for the sake of exposure. while there's a law that says
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mnuchkin must turn over this information there's case law saying that there's no general rule that congress can look at any returns it wants to. >> this is why i feel like there's some confusion with these taxes and whether or not it will be handed over or not. what i don't get is when i talk to you guys, i.e. lawyers about this kind of thing, everybody has a different interpretation. i talked to so many lawyers on air last week, this week about this sort of thing. everybody has a different interpretation. it seems this law which is confusing to say the least because you're telling me that congress needs a legitimate purpose to get these taxes where other lawyers have told me there done need be any probable cause or legitimate purpose. literally congress could request my taxes if they wanted to see them today and gain access to them. so why is there a different interpretation of this very law? >> well that's the essence of
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advocacy. right? we each take our sides and interpret the law in a way that benefits our client and than the how case law is created. it's an adversarial system. law itself is human. it hasn't anticipated every possible situation. you often have different provisions of even the same law that may arguably at least conflict with each other. this is a classic example. on one hand those who want trump's returns released will argue like the 6103 f couldn't be clearer. it says you shall turn this over. but yet trump's attorneys will argue the supreme court said there must be a legislative purpose. congress doesn't have a right to expose taxpayer returns and this is not authorizing an exception to the general rule that taxpayers secrecy must be safeguarded. two lawyers can find a reason to disagree on anything.
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>> i like black and white better than gray. >> we live in gray. >> danny cevallos, thank you. i want to get a check on your weather now with nbc meteorologist bill karins. >> good morning. still serious situation in south dakota especially. just look at one forecast model. still saying additional 24 to 30 inches of snow. that's ridiculous. let's show you some pictures. this is the scene in minnesota before the sunset last night. just a heavy wet snow sticking to everything. that's really before the winds got gusty. we had numerous pile ups. interstate 29 is closed in south dakota. interstate 90 is closed in south dakota. they are telling people don't get stranded because that's what will happen when we get 24 to 30 inches of snow. this area of very heavy snow. see flashes in here. thundersnow. thunderstorms that it's cold enough and producing snow. so blizzard warnings continue for portion of six states.
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denver has been dropped out of that. minneapolis you're in a winter storm warning. snow, ice, rain and back to snow. here's how it plays out. the worst of it by far south dakota, central portions of minnesota and then eventually towards this evening and friday starts to shift a little further to the north. here's the snowfall forecast and areas of pink, a foot of snow all in minnesota. central minnesota. er and portions, right here. that's 18 plus inches of snow. that's on top of what's already fallen. on top of that very windy too because that's one of the criteria for our blizzard conditions. travel today very difficult in the middle of the nation. when we come back we'll talk about the weekend forecast. a new storm that could have tornadoes over the weekend and affect the masters golf tournament. >> can we just cut weather. >> until it improves. >> i love bill karins.
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welcome back. 2020 candidate tulsi gabbard is eligible to join the debate.
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she said 65,000 people donated to her presidential campaign. the hawaii congresswoman also says she has not accepted any p.a.c. donation. meanwhile if more than 20 candidates meet the 65,000 donor qualification to participate in the june primary debate, the democratic national committee says candidates may have to meet a certain andy poling threshold in order to qualify. also let's talk senator elizabeth warren. her presidential campaign announced it's raised $6 million during the first quarter of 2019. that breaks down into 213,000 contributions from 135,000 donors with an average donation of $28. however warren's overall total puts her behind several of her fellow 2020 competitors including bernie sanders, kamala harris as well as south bend indiana mayor pete buttigieg. warren's campaign manager in an email to supporters acknowledged
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they were outraised by other candidates in the first quarter of the primary however aides for the campaign told "the washington post" it raised morgan and the spent with the margins they are narrow. at the end of the quarter the campaign has about $11 million on hand after warren transferred 10.4 million from her u.s. senate account according to one campaign aide. while still mulling a presidential run terri mcauliffe had this message. >> now i know some in this room may have voted for president trump. that's fine. just remember what he ran on. he promised infrastructure. remember you were going to get a huge, not with an h but with a y huge infrastructure. twice the size of a hillary's. the man hasn't gotten off the douch deliver one damn thing for
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you. you need to remember that when you vote again in 2020. all i can tell you, i have not made my decision yet. i'm very close. of all the candidates running, how many have actually wrestled a 280 pound eight-foot alligator for a political contribution. how many? i am your man. if i can wrestle an alligator i can wrestle donald trump and that would be worth it. you would amoney to watch that debate. >> wow. that would be a sight to see to say the least. the information governor referencing there a stunt that he pulled in 1980, quite sometime ago to fundraiser for jimmy carter's re-election campaign. if only we had the footage of that. still ahead we'll show you how top democrats are reacting to bill barr he believes trump campaign was spied on in 2016.
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president trump's 2016 campaign. senate minority leader chuck schumer tweeted this. attorney general barr admitted he had no evidence to support his claim that spying on trump campaign did occur. a. g. barr must retract his statement or provide evidence to back it up. conspiracy is beneath the office of the attorney general. here's how some other democrats reacted. >> let me just say how very, very dismayed and disappointing that the chief law enforcement officer of our country is going off the rails yesterday and today. he is the attorney general of the united states of america, not the attorney general of donald trump. >> it was deeply disturbing to see the attorney general make such a cavalier suggestion that there was spying on trump
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campaign. that may be pleasing to the president, who has been pushing this idea of a deep state coup but it was a deep disservice to the men and women of the fbi and intelligence community. >> i'm flabbergasted by the attorney general's comments. i don't get it. when you start linking spying with law enforcement or the intelligence community that sets off red flags every where and that's why i think he does a disservice to the men and women who work in the department of justice and fbi who if they had not started a counter intelligence investigation into russia's intervention in the 2016 election they would be skewered and rightfully so. >> for a second day in a row william barr would say how much the white house knows about the contents of the mueller report. >> who, if anyone, outside of the justice department has seen portions or all of the special counsel's report? has anyone in the white house
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seen any of the report? >> i'm not going -- as i said i'm landing the plane right now. and, you know, i've been willing to discuss my, my, my letters in the process going forward. but the report will be out next week and i'm just not going get into the details of the process until the plane is on the ground. >> earlier yesterday president trump didn't exactly say whether or not he had been briefed only that the report no longer matters to him. senator bernie sanders of vermont also unveiled his plan to introduce a medicare for all bill in the senate. >> let me begin by being as clear as i can be. health care is a human right, not a privilege. and together we are going to end the international embarrassment
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of the united states of america, hour great country, being the only major nation on earth not to guarantee health care to all as a right. that is going to end. >> however, sanders said if he were to get 51 senators to back the legislation, he would be willing to change the senate's 60 vote filibuster rule to pass the bill. writing in a statement yesterday. once we have a democratic majority who are prepared to vote for medicare for all in the house and the senate, we will pass it. further, i would remind everyone that the budget reconciliation process with 51 votes has been used time and time again to pass major pest of legislation and that under our constitution and the rules of the senate currently the bill is supported by senators and 14 other senators including his fellow 2020 democratic presidential contender, senators cory booker, kirsten gillebrand, kamala
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harris and elizabeth warren. newly minuted democratic presidential candidate and california congressman eric swalwell claims if elected he's not afraid to shake up the norm with his potential cabinet member picks. >> as president i will put together a blended cabinet. of republicans and democrats. republicans plural. i'm the son of two republicans. i married a hoosier from southern indiana who grew up with the pences. i go on fox news mostly so my parents and in-laws can see me on tv. [ laughter ] i get to talk to the president directly. but i don't want to dismiss people who are counting on higher wages, lower health care costs and a brighter future for their kids. >> thanksgiving must be fun for him. the congressman also announced yesterday his campaign staff is unionizing following that of senator bernie sanders. congressman swalwell will have more on this coming up on
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"morning joe". you don't want to miss that sit down. joining me again wanda summers. let's talk about swalwell here. he's got this idea where he wants to blend both democrats and republicans. wow. in his potential cabinet. but considering the current political climate, considering the fact that washington is wholly broken at the moment and they can agree on anything, even issues that are normally bipartisan, is this kind of a pie in the sky idea? >> i think it certainly is a really interesting approach. eric swalwell isn't the only person talking about this. we heard about howard schultz the former starbucks ceo. he's considering running for president. he put forth a similar idea suggests he would have a bipartisan cabinet. i'm not on the road with these voters. there's a big split. some folks would be interested in an idea like this. want to see a president that can
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bring all sides to a compromise. i talked to just as many people who are looking for a democratic candidate for president that can be a repudiation of the current administration's policies and see someone have a more progressive or liberal cabinet rather than installing wrebs in a show of bipartisanship. >> what do they know about swalwell's reputation on the hill. does he have the type of reputation where he crosses political lines. is this something that's feasible? >> i think it is something that's feasible. he's someone that has a voice that's grown in prominence. the biggest challenge for eric swalwell is compared to some of the other 17, 18 democrats running for president, while his prominence has grown in california and washington where he's represented the state of california, he's still not as well-known as a lot of his other challengers in this very crowded field. the challenge will be to do something and come up with a proposal, let him cut through the noise so people can get to
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know him and his policies more. voters in these early primary states take this stuff seriously. once he continues to make some of these trips to these states he'll have an opportunity to do just that. >> congressman swalwell will be on "morning joe" in just a little bit. wanda summers, thank you. still ahead everybody the number of measles cases in the u.s. continues towards record levels as new york city takes action to stop the spread of the disease. our doctor will break down what you need to know and bill karins will have more on a powerful storm moving across the country. we'll be right back. i had no symptoms of hepatitis c.
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commissioner signs a mandatory vaccination requiring 200,000 people who live and work in williamsburg and don't have evidence of immunity to be vaccy neated within 48 hours. it's the first time the city has required forced vaccinations. violators will face a fine of $1,000. joining me now "morning joe" medical contributor dr. dave campbell. thank you for joining us on this incredibly important topic, to say the least. it hits very close to hem. i live in that neighborhood. i have two young children beneath the age of 3, one that is 8 months or so. wasn't supposed to receive the mmr vaccine until he was 1 years old. talk about this. we have 8,000 people in new york city alone that possibly have been exposed to measles.
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how dangerous is the outbreak? how worried should people be? then also this directive now coming from the new york city mayor asking for all children over the age of 6-month-old to be vaccinated that live in the williamsburg area. what do you make of it? >> well, first, we should recognize that it must be important for the mayor to have imposed this declaration and it is. it's important because the disease is probably more dangerous than most people realize. we became come play scene over the last 30 or 40 years as we saw the vaccination programs working very well and in 2000 we thought measles was gone. it is not. now it's spreading and spreading much more quickly in small areas like we see in brooklyn. one in 1,000 people are expected to die from this measles and typically younger kids and pregnant women can also have
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significant complication from measles. it's a terrible disease. it's preventable with vaccination. >> so is it safe? if you're a person that responsibly vaccinate your children, should you be following these new regulations by the city? is it safe for you to get your child who is older than 6 months of age this vaccination immediately? >> it's not only safe it's important and i believe that it's a responsibility as a parent. because this is a preventable disease. the vaccinations cause at most small issues like maybe a rash or make you feel uncomfortable. there's no documented link to some of the horrible diseases that people talk about with vaccinations. >> right. >> and measles is a -- one of the most highly contagious diseases in the world and it's spreading now mostly from other countries where the disease is far more common. but it's taking a foot hold in small communities like we see
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right now in brooklyn. >> i think a lot of people, obviously, are unmistakably nervous about this as well. so i think the big question here is how does a city -- this can actually be applied to the national audience as well, how does a city regulate something like this? how do you enforce something like this? >> that's an important question. what parents can do right now and people can do right now, make sure their kids wash their hands regularly. make sure that if they need to be vaccinated they do. realize also that the vaccines aren't perfect. there's a small group, maybe 5% 120% of those vaccinated who can still catch the disease. so it is the responsibility of the public health departments to implement these rules because this disease, if it starts to ramp up and become more prevalent it's a bigger, bigger
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problem and it's going to escalate weekly. >> we certainly hope people in the commune and around the city and the nation are heeding these warnings because right now it is, seems to be very much a local problem but could very much become a bigger problem if people do not heed these warnings. dr. dave campbell thank you so much. we'll see you again in just little bit on "morning joe". want to turn to bill karins with a check on your weather. >> good morning. getting to that weekend forecast and big storm that's going to come. i want to wrap up our coverage of the blizzard in nebraska and south dakota. many highways are closed. this will continue during the day today. this is a slow moving storm. some areas will end up with over two feet of snow by the time we're all said and done. it's targeting central and northern minnesota down through areas here in south dakota. even fargo's forecast got worse now expecting a foot of snow there. today's forecast southeast you're warm and dry. masters golf tournament starts.
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beautiful weather today. by sunday could it be an interesting ending. so the weekend forecast starting on friday the blizzard heads into kentucky. little bit of snow left over. we'll see just a little bit of rain and a few thunderstorms in the ohio valley. the next storm is right behind it, more heavy rain, flooding concerns and severe weather concerns. arkansas, oklahoma, east texas, louisiana and then on sunday that heads through the southeast and will head through georgia too. we'll wait and see if that affects the end of the masters for final groupings as they come down. >> we have some breaking news from london. julian assange was arrested this morning by british police at the embassy of ecuador. he is now in custody at a central london politician before his first court appear jan. police were invited into the ecuadorian embassy after its withdrawal of assembly. the wikileaks founder has been
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welcome back. facebook addressed fake news circulating on its platform. thank you for joining us. let's talk about facebook strategy here, what do you know? >> look, it's trying to get rid of content violations and improve safety. all of this is an effort to regain users' trust. additions include a new section on the community standards page to update monthly to let users know what is and is not allowed on the site. if you're planning to go to london despite brexit, you can do that with jet blue. it's very lucrative because of the lucrative business traveler.
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welcome back, everybody. joining us from washington with a look at actionxios a.m., jona swan. >> my colleague reports that the 2020 democratic primary race is already one for the history books. you've got a tighter pack, more authentically viable candidates, more early money, more diversity than we've seen in recent memory. he dives in, goes one by one. it's staggering when you lay out how much early money is being raised, the range of ideas and ideological spectrum of this
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group and it's quite striking. >> also, you see the diversity of candidates that are running as well, which is pretty unprecedented this year. let's talk about which are possibly, if at all, worrying the trump team so far. >> the person i talked to on the political side, on the outside quite relieved at this stage that beto o'rourke hasn't surged more than he has. they're worried about him. i can't say the president is because i haven't discussed it with him and he's never one to admit he's concerned even privately. but the people around him worry about beto because he would force them to compete in texas and spend money in texas, and he has this ability to put out very progressive ideas but speak about them in a very moderate, inclusive way, quite similar to barack obama. he's also got stunning online fund-raising ability.
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they worry about kamala harris because they think she can energize african-american voters and they are worried about widen. they see him as the most viable candidate through the rust belt. >> i'm sure they're award about kamala harris when it comes to the women's vote as well, which is problem the republicans are going to have come 2020. let's shift to the shake-ups at homeland security this week. there has been a lot of them. what does your latest reporting show about the state of relations between the white house and dhs right now? >> you sort of have to say who at dhs? it is woefully sund staffed. when i talk to people inside dhf, it really can't overstated. i sent unwho works in there, a
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quote with someone who is familiar with the office and it almost sounded apocalyptic. i say is this hyperbole? and they said no. trump wants them to assume steveville miller now has full weight to pursue this. >> jonathan, thank you so much. that does it for me on this thursday morning. i'm yasmin vasooghian.
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"morning joe" starts now. i don't think we should question your credentials today. isn't it true you have a science degree from yale? what's that? >> bachelor of arts degree. >> is it a political science degree? >> yes, political science. >> so how do you get a bachelor of arts and a science? >> well, it's liberal arts. it's a bachelor. >> so it's not really science. so i think it's somewhat appropriate that someone with a pseudo sign degree is here pushing pseudo science before our committee today? >> are you serious? this is really a serious happening here? >> you know what? it is serious. you're calling the president's cabinet a kangaroo court. i'm calling this committee he's putting together a

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