accept transgender troops? patricia, i'll serving prior to that wraps up this hour of transgender service. i came out as transgender just "msnbc live." prior to the policy allowing i'm phillip mena. transgender service, and so weaver seen a lot of change and it's now time for alex witt. a lot of inconsistency. there she is. >> i think the weather is going this new policy creating even to be good out there, my friend. more inconsistency and confusion it is 7:00 here in the east, amongst the ranks. >> jennifer, same question to 4:00 a.m. out west. welcome, everyone, to "weekends you. tell me your experience. >> i've been in for about 15 with alex witt." years now, and once the policy new outrage to the tweet some was released under secretary carter and then president obama, said went too far and may have things really got better because put a congresswoman in jeopardy. being trans was never an issue, and now people could serve the deadline set in an openly, receive medical care and effort to get the president's be out to their commands without it causing any issues. taxes. plus the transgender really the only problem with military ban is now in effect. open trans service has been over what it means for the thousands the last year or two when serving in the military right commanders, health care now. >> they barred women of color, providers, behavioral health specialists and service members weren't really sure where the they barred women and bisexual policy stood. what was allowed wasn't allowed and how commanders should be

treating their soldiers. people. every time what we found is >> patricia, it's my these folks are proving it's understanding that you are the first openly transgender wrong. this is a ban that has no infantry soldier in the military. that's true, right? >> that is correct. rationale whatsoever. >> so is this really boiling down to being a don't ask, don't trump proposing to bus tell situation? >> don't ask, don't tell is a great way to phrase this. we're being told, you can be illegals to sanctuary cities. trans, you just can't trump is again advocating for it transition, and you can't tell anybody that you're trans because if you he dysphoria, against democrats. that's disqualifying from being he said he has the right to send in the military. so this is exactly a ban on transgender service because you can't do it openly. illegals to cities. >> i'm curious, jennifer. but democrats said, not so fast. talk about the risk of they're still trying to figure that out. discrimination for trans soldiers who will continue to >> we're going through the process, we're reviewing serve. are you concerned about that? >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, never mind all the everything we can do lawfully but we released them to other people who can no longer come communities, what's the difsh r out who are currently serving, the people who can't join, but we're also going to have issues difference in releasing them to with those who are openly sanctuary cities? they shouldn't say this is serving as trans right now. retribution politically, they f

if i'm in a leadership position should say this is an olive and i have a soldier who comes out to me as trans, now we've branch. >> accusing the president of been told that trans people, trying to appeal to his base according to this order, are while doing little to alleviate the crisis at the border. >> it's illegal, it's immoral, insufficient. so this is almost a second class weaver created. it's unethical, it's sophomoric, i'm allowed to be open and trans, but you're not because you're deficient. if anything goes before a commander who has to make a decision to commit time, energy it's petulant and par for the and resources to a trans course. >> this is going to go all over soldier, once the president and the secretary of defense have the united states. this is really a crazy idea. said these people shouldn't even >> this notion that he can somehow scare us away from what be allowed to serve, they're is a moral position on this deficient in their military service, why would i continue to issue, i think, really speaks to his inability to recognize the invest resources in openly strength that so many leaders have across this country. transgendered services? >> well, the president also >> if they come out, will they decrying his fake news, be dismissed or will they be reporting by cnn and the "new allowed to stay in the military york times" that he told the now just under their at-birth acting homeland chief to close the border to immigrants and gender? >> that's tricky, because if you asylum seekers. three sources tell "the times" say your transgender, the treatment for being transgender and a senior administration is to transition. official tells cnn the president so once you're determined to be

medically necessary and it's not offered to pardon kevin your decision, it's on behavioral health. if they decide it's medically mcaleenan if he faced any necessary for you to transition, that's when the administrative consequences from closing the separation goes into effect. so just by identifying as border. transgender, you can absolutely secretary steve mnuchin on be discharged. whether house democrats will get >> so when the president the president's tax returns. announced this policy on twitter, by the way, which this comes after the april 23rd really caught the department of deadline for the irs to release defense off guard, he claimed six years of the president's tax returns. the transgender groups would disrupt the military. nbc's hans nichols is joining us but last year there were several from the white house. generals and admirals who said happy sunday morning to you, my friend. that admitting transgender we have the democrats who told the irs that this should not be a legal issue, but mnuchin, for service members did not pose a threat to unit cohesion. what do you think, patricia, the his part, what's he saying? ban will ultimately do? will it fail? >> reporter: he's saying it definitely is a legal issue. >> well, ultimately i think that and good morning to you, alex. we'll see that the ban is going to fail. every indication is they are eventually we'll come to our going to fight this. collective senses and we'll when you have mnuchin talking about the april 23rd deadline allow transgender people to continue to serve because we being entirely arbitrary, that's already are. an indication the white house is we're serving right now and prepared for the long haul. we're doing so openly and we're remember, it was just last week we heard from mick mulvaney doing so with distinction. saying never, never, never. i think one of the important things to remember is that one

of the disruption to morale is here's what mnuchin is actually this ban right now. saying. he says, i do intend to follow you made a great point about how up, but he's facing this could lead to potential discrimination issues, and so constitutional issues. now my peers have been told my obligation is to make sure again that i'm deficient, and that for the purpose of that has the potential to create protection, we get this right. a morale issue where there wasn't one previously. what he's saying is he doesn't i was serving openly and having want to see the irs, mnuchin, no problems, but now people being weaponized like it was around me have been told that i'm less than them, and that during the nixon administration. could create a morale issue. there is an important caveat. >> let me tell you right now, during the nixon administration, it was the executive branch. patricia and jennifer, excellent it was the irs using the white house for political purposes, it conversation, not deficient in wasn't congress trying to do any way, shape or form. oversight. alex? >> before we let you scoot away thank you for your service and for a bit, is there any sense, the conversation. hans, on how the white house is service plays an attack on a preparing for the release of the mueller report? there are those who are minnesota congresswoman. expecting to drop just a couple that is next. a minnesota congresswoman. that is next days from now, tuesday at the earliest, right? >> reporter: we don't exactly know the precise date but the white house is bracing for it. they're prepared to have teams read over it as well as outside legal counsel. rudy giuliani made a comment the last couple days and he said,

look, i can almost do a speed read. we're going to have cherry picking on this. the white house will say there is no collusion, they feel my time is thin, but so is my lawn. pretty confident about that, and it's been worn down to ugly thin grass! the attorney general didn't go forward with an obstruction now there's scotts thick'r lawn, charge. now, will there be damaging the revolutionary 3-in-1 solution for weak lawns. things in that report? could there be something that casts the president in an with a soil improver to strengthen roots! unflattering light? potentially. but what i expect the white seed to fill in gaps! house to do, as well as the and fertilizer to feed! other side team, is to really the result... up to a 50% thicker lawn try to amplify the no collusion after just one application. part of it and brush over the ♪ ♪ fact if there are any negative -- let's call them now yard time is our time. this is a scotts yard. tidbits -- in there. alex? >> joining me now, emily noe, we really pride ourselves >> ton making it easyautoglass, to get your windshield fixed. >> teacher: let's turn in your science papers. and correspondent with bloomberg >> tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. news, and jeff mason, white house correspondent with >> student: i did mine on volcanoes. >> teacher: you did?! oh, i can't wait to read it. reuters. hey, everyone, good morning here on a sunday. >> tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage... let's go ahead with the expected she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we'd be there. release of the redacted version of the mueller report. >> teacher: you must be pascal. some say the white house is in >> tech: yes ma'am. for a rude awakening. >> tech vo: saving her time...

[honk, honk] >> kids: bye! jeff, does the white house have >> tech vo: ...so she can save the science project. reason to fear that this report >> kids: whoa! could or will reveal something >> kids vo: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪ damaging, or at the very least, embarrassing for the president? >> i think, number one, the white house thinks they've seen the most important conclusions and those were the ones that were in attorney general barr's letter a couple weeks ago, which is that he says that the special counsel did not establish collusion, and then the attorney general determined that there was not evidence to show, or not enough evidence to show obstruction of justice. yeah, there could be other things in that report. certainly the democrats will pounce on, that others will pounce on, but the white house has been showing quite a bit of confidence that whatever it is, thanks to priceline working with top airlines it's not going to overshadow the to turn their unsold seats into amazing deals, two main headlines that they got, and they were the two main family reunion attendance is up. we're all related! headlines that they wanted. >> but with regard to those yeah, i see it. and because priceline offers great deals conclusions, jeff, isn't there so much pushback that that by comparing thousands of prices in real time, sports fans are seeing more away games. four-page report was a summary various: yeah-h-h! of bill barr's conclusions and is that safe? not necessarily bob mueller's? oh, y... ahh! >> absolutely. not at all. no, ma'am. nope. if there is significant material and more people than ever are enjoying romantic getaways.

in the redacted mueller report (romantic music) that suggests that barr drew that's gross conclusions that he shouldn't have or went too far in those priceline. every trip is a big deal. brief -- that four-page letter, that's gross then there will not only be it comes to the investigation into this president? pushback, there will be outrage do you really believe on behalf of the democrats. attorney general barr read a nearly 400-page report and others around the country. in one day? but so far the white house and and that his 4-page summary is the whole truth? his allies not only are i'm tom steyer, and i'm organizing an effort to confident that that's not going to be the case, but feel, as to release the full mueller report now you're seeing with the push now and let the american people decide. to investigate the investigators, that this entire if you think we have a right to thing shouldn't have happened in the first place. read the report for ourselves, >> yeah. you can call the attorney general so as this goes down, politico, at this number. our tax dollars paid for the report. don't let him cover up the truth. kefr kevin, is reporting that the president's legal team is ready to respond. they're all assigned to specific sections of the report. so how do you expect the white house to respond? they're america's biopharmaceutical researchers. there any indication how this pursuing life-changing cures will all come out? >> essentially they're going to in a country that fosters innovation come out in full force. i can tell you that privately here, they find breakthroughs... behind the scenes, the like a way to fight cancer surrogates surrounding the white by arming a patient's own t-cells... house are ready to amplify whatever message that the because it's not just about the next breakthrough... president begins to get out there in full force. you know, after the attorney it's all the ones after that.

general, william barr, testified on capitol hill last week, i spoke with the chairwoman of the house appropriations committee, anita lowey, a democrat from new york. to jeff's point, she said essentially this might have to come down to subpoenas from the house judiciary committee and that they are -- democrats are going to have to use every legal avenue available to them to try to get out the report as they can. because in all honesty, that 420-0 vote in the house of representatives where republicans joined with house let's go now to the democrats and are urging for the firestorm around congressman release of the mueller report, ilhan omar and president trump's well, now you have the situation tweet using 9/11 footage to where william barr has to get criticize her. out there and explain to the omar is returning volley in a public why there might be some new series of tweets that says redactions, and some might be because they were leading down in part, no one person, no an avenue where they matter how corrupt, inept or investigated folks who ultimately ended up having vicious can threaten vicious, nothing to do with this. but it's a lot of hearsay right can threaten my unwavering love now. and at the end of the day, until the full and complete report is released, or if it's not ultimately released to the for america. good to see you on a sunday public, then democrats and some morning once again. republicans are going to keep >> good morning.

pushing for that. >> brian, i'm going to start >> there is a lingering with you here. many democrats have raised alarm question, emily, and that is over the president's tweet, even whether the white house has seen the mueller report. some saying he's inciting the attorney general was questioned about that this week. violence. listen to what he said. do you see any room for why they >> who, if anyone, outside the may think that? justice department has seen >> democrats should be raising portions or all of the special the alarms that they have to counsel's report? has anyone in the white house keep apologizing for this seen any of the report? >> you know, i'm not going to -- representative because she keeps -- >> hang on. as i say, i'm landing the plane hang on. hang on. the question was, do you see right now, and i've been willing room for the democrats to believe that the president is to discuss my letters and the inciting violence with the tweet he put out there? >> no. process going forward, but the i think she deserves the criticism. are we not allowed to criticize report's going to be out next week and i'm just not going to get into the details of the represe process until the plane is on the ground. >> it's crazy because it could representative omar because have been almost a yes-no she's a muslim, because she's a woman, because she's african-american? answer. i don't think so. i think we're allowed to if he wants to be perceived, criticize her. i think she said something highly offensive to the victims emily, as impartial, why did he of 9/11 and americans who look not answer that question straight on? >> he definitely, definitely back on that. what we're seeing is people like hedged. i think he doesn't necessarily want to lie in front of the congressman dan crenshaw of texas for merely pointing out by congressional panel, and this places a very bright spotlight

saying something highly on him. we'll see when the redacted offensive, by saying some people report is released how much it matches his letter, what's left did some things when we know the out, and what's still in it. thing that was done was a terrorist attack on the united because there's nuance and states. she's not immune from criticism there's context to be added when we see a fuller picture of what by virtue of the fact that she's mueller has been investigating. >> okay, guys, we're going to muslim american. turn now to the president's >> dan crenshaw helped to draw threat to bus apprehended attention to the comments there immigrants to sanctuary cities. initially. this is what was said about the we certainly heard earlier from response from democrats. take a listen. the white house press secretary >> what they're doing is trying to silence any kind of arguments hogan ridley who said they are against them. reviewing whether that proposal is even legal. why? they don't actually have an this is not the first time the argument to make. what they do is use identity to try to splens silence anyone president is at odds with his else from saying anything. administration. we know the dhs tweeted back and you're not allowed to say that because of who i am. said, weav've got no plans to d >> and we had brian reflecting those statement there is in his this. does that even matter to his base? answer but what's your reaction? is there a breaking point for >> good morning, alex. any republicans in congress? thank you for having me. the biggest thing here is a >> that question could be applied to so many different veteran of post 9/11 veteran myself, i don't take any of topics, alex. these types of issues lightly on immigration in particular, with regard to his base, no, i but this is a smoke screen. think the base is delighted to see this. i think the base is very aligned we all understand what the representative was trying to with president trump's thinking. say. she is not for terrorism.

and president trump is doing that's ridiculous. this because he genuinely she's not anti-american. that's also ridiculous. what we have here is a president believes this is something he should do, this is what he and administration with their promised as a candidate in 2016. rhetoric that has continued to he shows a lot of frustration incite these types of issues and about the fact that he doesn't now they're using this freshman think democrats are working with representative as an outlet to republicans to change what he considers the really terrible take away from all of the issues immigration laws. we're seeing that they have to deal with within our country so i think you'll find a lot of right now. three black churches in support from that in the base, louisiana were burned to the and so far, lawmakers in ground by an arsonist, domestic congress have shown very little terrorist just this week. what has the president said appetite to stand up to that about that? base and to the president about what has been his response? what's been the response of this things like this. administration? the president might have told an i do think it's worth acting cabinet official to go mentioning, though, you played out and commit a crime and he the clip from hogan gidley that would go ahead and pardon him if he did that. where is that conversation that we should be having right now? all of this is a distraction, you should see this not as straight up. >> do you know who has a made a retribution. the president made it clear it's comment about this, brian, is retribution. congresswoman rashida talib who i think it's important for a white house spokesman to come out and say that's not what it claims that racism is playing a is. the president has made clear his role in these attacks, intentions are exactly that.

>> kevin, is this an olive especially against congresswoman omar. branch or is this, as the is that possible? >> of course. president says, political it's always racism, it's sexism. retribution? >> it is racism when it is >> first and foremost, the chief racism. >> but it wasn't. of staff mick mulvaney and jared >> she apologized. kushner was on capitol hill last >> she said something stupid and week meeting with democrats should apologize for it. >> give us specifically what she about potentially crafting some type of immigration bill, said that was so stupid, reform, and senator mitch mcconnell after that meeting the exact verbiage. saying there would be an opening >> some people, some people were potentially between now and the august recess to get some type muslims. >> so the fact that she said of immigration bill through. some people as opposed to but this policy proposal with muslims? you've heard the entire conversation, sfliet. >> yes. sanctuary cities is like pouring >> you've heard the entire speech behind that podium? gasoline on an already >> yes. >> you did not take some people increasingly divisive issue. to mean muslims? i'm not sure what the appetite >> no. she needs to explain herself. will be for a bipartisan immigration plan when such a again, this is the second time controversial one is being she's said something she's had maneuvered behind the scenes. but the second point is that to apologize for. some people did something when from an economic standpoint, the you're describing 9/11 is manufacturing community, which outrageous. it's wrong. is a crux foundation of >> how about this? let's not even put the word muslim assigning to it. let's say she should have said president trump's critic the word terrorists. association, has laid down wouldn't that have been

appropriate? >> they would still be mad about serious concerns should the president decide to shut down parts of the border or port of something, alex. >> she didn't explain herself. that's the problem. it would be perfectly okay if entry. >> and where is the money to pay for this program? >> there are some questions. she said this and afterwards first of all, is it legally said look, maybe i should have used my words more carefully but she didn't. she doubled down and accused feasible? is it logically, logistically anyone who criticized her of being a racist, islamafoebist possible. we don't know if they have money to bus people to sanctuary leftist. and she's attacking the people cities. the president using the term "endless supply" makes it seem a who have the kornl to stacouragp little bit that he doesn't see and say what you said was wrong and apologize. illegal immigrants as people per >> this is about an opportunity se, and there is a little bit of to distract from everything else that's happening with this white language that he wants to house, which is on fire right retaliate against democrats that now. he has tweeted overnight are that's all this is. >> what's also interesting, soft on immigration. bishop, is the fallout on this. >> guys, stay where you are. in a little bit we're going to congresswoman talib is taking talk 2020. aim at democratic leadership let's go from there to the they did speak out against the weather now and the deadly president's attacks against omar storms moving through the southeastern part of the united states. wow, that brought baseball-sized and said they put us in photos hail and tornadoes as you can see here. that's the gulf state region. when they want to show our party

that happened last night. in fact, two children in is diverse however when we want to be at the table to show where pollock, texas died when two trees fell in that storm, and an official was describing the damage here. >> what's the most devastating speak up about issues that impact who we are, what we fight you've seen? >> a strip of homes on the other for and why we ran in the first side of town over here completely gone. place, we are ignored. just gone. everything is gone. to truly honor our diversity is it's going to be a little difficult putting it back to never silence us. together, but we'll do it. >> they could have rephrased her >> a possible tornado touchdown statement, which i don't think is as terrible as right is trying to make t she could have come out and rephrased things. in vicksburg, mississippi. the weather is expected to shift that's not the excuse for the to the ohio valley and the islamaphobia we're seeing, it's not an excuse for individuals to southeast today. the lawmaker that could make take action and threats against this representative and, yes, i think that we should come out the president turn over his taxes or go to jail. and have this discussion is there any legal wiggle room? further. the representative has already come out and reemphasized what m she was attempting to say. to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. >> people like dan crenshaw, a fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. decorated veteran. >> as am i. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions as am i. i am, too. i can play that card, too. whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees he should be worried about

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to see the footprints of his financial life. this came as the house ways and gura." means committee chairman, mr. neal, set a new deadline of i'm david gura. tuesday of next week. legal analyst danny savalis and overnight, ilhan omar breaks her silence to president trump's attack on twitter. criminal attorney ashley lawson. >> these people are the president says the law is irresponsibly taking those words 100% on his side. it appears chairman neal is out of context and threatening ready to take this all the way to court. does the treasury department the life of representative omar. have a legit argument that will hold up in court? >> now the president is doubling who do you think wins this battle? >> i think chairman neal wins this battle. the law is clear. the law says "shall." it says if they ask for these reports, the treasury department shall give them to them. they have an oversight obligation. part of their job is to do oversight, and that's they're trying to reveal what says they

shall give this report over. i think chairman neal will win if this ends up going to court. >> danny, it's so interesting. there's been all this arguing over the interpretation of the word "shall." does "shall" mean you do it? >> when does "shall" not mean "shall"? arguably if you don't reach the issue of the word "shall." the word "shall" is ambiguous. it means you must. we speak to thou should and thou shalt. there is no interpretation other than you must. the republicans' argument is you never reach the issue of "shall" if the underlying purpose of the request is not a legitimate committee purpose. only a legitimate committee purpose gives you the blessing to go forward and then there are documents, the tax returns, shall be released. that's the president's argument

there. >> but if there's a legitimate reason for doing so and steve mnuchin does not comply, does he face legal trouble, danny? >> he does. but first there has to be a determination that there is that legitimate committee purpose. and mnuchin is correct deferring to the attorneys and for the legal conclusions, and when it comes to arbitrary deadlines, that alone doesn't run afoul of the law. there is no timeline given in that applicable section where we talk about "shall." so if there is a wait just to determine whether or not mnuchin can lawfully turn over these returns, then these are obviously going to take it. but the real question is, at its core, is this for a legitimate purpose. because there is case law saying congress doesn't have the right to get tax returns willy-nilly for any reason whatsoever. >> okay. ashley, on the soon-to-be released redacted mueller report and its content, white house

aides told politico there is nothing criminal that will be released about the president. they said there are no obstruction or collusion claims, and they already know the outcome. is that true, ashley? could anything new come out relative to obstruction? i think it's a pretty safe case to say nobody is talking collusion anymore, but obstruction is a different matter. >> right. and obstruction seems to be the key word here. and that's a matter of interpretation whether or not there is actual evidence of obstruction. what we'd like to see is actually the evidence so we can make our own determination, congress can make their own determination, the american people can make their own determination. because right now we've got the justice department telling us we didn't find evidence of obstruction. but that's their interpretation. and prosecutors are allowed to interpret the law and allowed to interpret the facts and decline to prosecute a case. that doesn't mean there's evidence of it. it means they've made a decision that they don't want to objefol

this obstruction charge. congress haze right to actually see this data and see these facts and make their own interpretation to see whether they obstructed danny, the whit unfazed by this obstruction. >> they believe there is no crimes or criminal conclusions in the mueller report. but the mueller report is no longer about indictable crimes. it's about optics and it's about impeachment. because impeachment does not require a crime for filing of articles of impeachment. and the optics are that there may be very embarrassing things in the unredacted portions of the mueller report. for example, even going back to collusion, that meeting in trump tower, how involved were the trump family members? that could be incredibly embarrassing. and going to obstruction, even though there was no crime of obstruction, that top line summary by -- or top line notice, i should say, by barr hardly exonerated the president on the obstruction issue c.

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next battle 2020. pete buttigieg will make his run official today in south carolina where he is still mayor. he's among several on a stump on sunday, along with eric swalwell who will announce his candidacy. > we return with our panel. in new hampshire, he pulled in third place. he came in ahead of elizabeth

warren, kamala harris, beto o'rourke as well. what do you think is up with this buttigieg rise so fast, and will it last? can he sustain it? >> the question of can it last will be answered going forward, but it will be his ability to couple personality with policy. he sort of can explain his policy positions in a very compelling way. he's a fairly good orator and he also is a fresh face in the race. as an openly gay mayor in a midwestern-sized town, it really differentiates him from the rest of the field. today, this past weekend, he and cory booker making very important announcements from the towns that made them leaders. the town where cory booker was mayor, newark, and the town where buttigieg is now, south

bend. >> i want to talk about cory booker's announcement yesterday. here he is. >> in the words of dr. king, wait has almost always meant never. you see, the president wants a race to the gutter and to fight us in the gutter. but to win, to win, we have to fight from higher ground in order tong this country to higher ground. we don't have the privilege to wait for what fits into someone else's narrow view of what it means to be a progressive. >> picking up kevin on the word "wait" that he used there, did cory booker announce too soon? do you think this two-week national campaign tour is going to help elevate his profile which he sorely needs right now? he's gotten off to a slow start. >> i'll be honest, alex, i think it's a bit of a wash. i think there are so many democrats running and there's

always these announcements, the pre-announcements, the speaking tour before the announcement, the filing announcement. to be honest, they've all thrown their hats into the ring. >> and there's what, 17 you have to keep track of now, to your point? >> exactly. to be candid, senator booker has something which some of the other candidates don't, which is name recognition. i think he is a known commodity within the democratic party, so this will play itself out. it's a marathon, not a sprint. look at all those faces up there. in terms of moving beyond, what's going to be interesting is i personally think the democrats are hungry for policy ideas, policy prescriptions, and that's based off all the reporting i've done on this. so for senator booker, he's got a record to run on. how does he contrast himself from someone like a senator sanders or a senator warren. what i'm very interested to see, to your earlier question about whether or not mayor buttigieg can last, is where does he come down on economic issues? he's got a very compelling personal anywhere tinarrative,

he going to work in an economic message to draw on as mayor with his policies as mayor. how is he going to capitalize on that? it's too soon to tell. >> i want to look at what trump's 2020 campaign manager is saying about the really crowded 2020 democratic field. take a look at this. >> i'm not worried about any of them right now. i think they're going to beat up each other so much. i'm expecting another 15 by next weekend, it seems like. >> beto o'rourke, bernie sanders, they've been given credit for building out in the digital space, connecting with people that way. >> none of them have even touched us in one metric hit. no one in republican politics has ever been close to this kind of enthusiasm and small dollar excitement. >> the last word to you, jeff, on this. brad pascale, is he downplaying the sense o is there anyone who he or the

president may fear the most? >> if you're a campaign manager for donald trump or if you're donald trump yourself, when you're asked who do you worry about, the answer is always going to be no one. the president is very confident, his campaign manager is confident. you'll hear the word dichotomy, the president uses it all the ti time. i think when that long list of democratic candidates gets narrowed, we'll hear more specifics from the trump campaign about specific weaknesses they may see and that may tell about people they're concerned about, but i think it's too early to expect those kinds of details right now. >> but in terms of states, jeff, they want to run what they ran in 2016 again, but you got the four states where they just barely lost, minnesota, new hampshire, nevada and new mexico. they are focusing on that. they feel they need to pick that up. >> for sure. and i would say expect to see a lot of travel into those states, be it from the president himself, be it from the vice

president who just happens to be making stops in those states for sometimes political reasons, sometimes policy reasons. yes, they will absolutely be focusing on those, and that will be reflected in the travel schedule. >> well, and tomorrow minnesota, the president proposing his tax plans on tax day. good to see you both. appreciate it. of course we're just getting started on this sunday. the top of the hour we have "up with david gura." what's up, david? >> a couple things i want to flag this morning. the mayor of hartford, connecticut is going to join us. the mayor is a sanctuary city. we're going to get reaction for what the president is proposing, that migrants should be bussed to the border off sanctuary cities. senator bernie sanders expected to release his tax returns at long last after alluding to the fact he's done pretty well for himself over the years. and the second story is this back and forth between democrats

and congress and the treasury department over the release of president trump's tax returns. the treasury missed a deadline last week, and now there is a new deadline april 23rd. we'll see if the treasury department makes that one, alex. >> i'm putting money on that one. >> tends up in tit ends up in t think. >> there you go. david, we'll see you soon. the transgender military ban is on the books. but what does this mean for military members already serving? and a new study that says if they did 130 different studies to prove your facial expressions affect your mood. of course, if smiling makes you feel happy, frowning may make you feel sad. if you down vitamin and mineral supplements daily to help you live longer, there is a new study that says they don't help and you're just wasting your money. in fact, too many supplements can be dangerous. research says just eat right. et

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the president's ban on transgender people serving in the military took effect on friday. now the defense department for his part has insisted it's not a ban. servicemembers who have started or completed the transition process may continue to serve, but no new service member will be able to enlist if they publicly identify as transgender or have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria. that dysphoria is when they

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