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history, not just about one campaign or one presidency. >> this is clearly one of those monumental days where people all around the world are saying where were you? >> i am running for president of the united states. >> i know where i was. >> wow. happy monday. good morning and welcome to "morning joe." it is monday, april 15th, tax day! with us we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, well known ad man donny deutsch. >> wait a minute. he went from legislaendary ad mo well known? >> eddie glaude jr., white house reporter for the associated press, jonathan lemire with us and adrian elrod joins us.
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>> so a really special day yesterday, whether you used to root for tiger or not. you saw two things happen. americans stopped. a lot of americans stopped based on the often calls that were coming in from everybody. our phone was ringing off the hook yesterday like it hasn't. my gosh, an era where you have 300 cable channels and a million youtube channels, for some reason yesterday, mika, everybody stopped, they were watching tying are and they watched mayor pete. and, i don't know, ten years from now, 20 years from now just may be a day that a lot of people look back on and see history being made.
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>> well, we were shuffling my mom from room to room. let's go watch tiger, let's watch mayor pete. my move loves mayor pete. or phone started ringing off the hook from reporters, to republicans to democrats who really feel moved by this candidate. >> mike barnicle, talk about, again, i don't want to overstate it but you don't usually have sunday afternoons like we had yesterday. you just -- >> for sure. >> you just don't. with tiger woods be my gosh, tiger could win for the next three or four years. we i don't know. we never saw that coming. but what an extraordinary moment. l you liked tiger in the past -- >> it was about more than golf. >> it was about so much more than golf. it was about redem shn and him
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sinking that last putt and looking in a way look tiger has never never looked after winning a tournament. over where they won the firds what he did was a, something to be savored and something that was so special that he would never forget it. >> joe, on one sunday spring afternoon in augusta, georgia and in south bend, indiana, you had two story that combined to truly represent part of what this country is all about. >> you had the store over nearly decade get up up off the floor, back in the batter's box and become a winner again. and it really was an epic kind of personal story. and then in south bend, ind
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yabba -- >> and by the way, mike, there you see him hugging his children, hugging his mom, this within yeah, in a he's had since his dad was alive when he won his first masters. now he's hugging his son who was last born the last time tiger won be a and you get young mayor look pete talking to america and he's come, compassionate and intelligent and he's not speaking down to people, not insulting people. he's talking about the future and basically declaring that the past is the past and you've been tribd. all of these people living in small midwestern and new england and industrial town, you've been lied to, you've been tribd.
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the future is here. up either go forward and retreat into the distance history of the past. it was a remarkable day and two remarkable events. you're right to call them both remarkable. >> donnie deutsche, you had one man whose career was considered over and you had again driving north from augusta, georgia to south bed. indiana roughly the same age showing a lot of americans the face of it may be on america's political landscape for a very long time to come. >> we saw heros yesterday, two heros in different ways. we have the whether you liked
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hillary or didn't, you would never attach the word "hero" to her. tying are is obviously an african-american man and here we have pete compute jej, a gay married man, in is what the face of this country looks like now. it not just a straight whiteman with gray hair. weep have two. >> you felt. the old tiger woods was the tiger woods we thought of as a flil andering guy and an underand we saw with a good guy, a noose guy and the word "nice" is going to be a very, very
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important word coming -- going forward. to me, we need that now. >> we do, donnie. there are a lot of nice candidates on the democrat being field. >> mika, there seems to be a conciliatory way that even deals with he is enemies. i'm talking with eminates from him is very, very different. >> i'm just saying there's a t lot, we -- it's good in every way and good in everywhere in a trump is the opposite. the rain was coming through the roofs, everybody was the asking that's why heim here today, to
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tell a different story than make america great again. because there's a myth being sewed to striel and rur go it comes from people who think the only way to speak to communities like ours are through resentment and nostalgia. they're certainlying a pr the problem is that they're telling us to look for greatness in all the wrong places. i kwk of doing this as a midwestern and i will seek the
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highest office in the land. up until recently, this was not exactly what i had in behind either, for how i was going to spend my eighth year as mayor and my 38th year in the world. but we live in a moment that compels us each to act. the forces changing our country today are tectonic, forces that helped to explain what made this current presidency even possible. that's why this time it's not just about winning an election. it's about winning an era. [ cheers and applause ] >> if america today feels like a confusing place to live, it's because we're on one of those blanc pages in between chapters. change is is coming ready or not. the question of our time is
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whether family and workers or whether we will master them and make them work for a better day-to-day life for us all. a moment look that calls for hopeful and audacious voices from communities like ours. and, yes, it calls for a new generation of leadership in this country. >> well written, well delivered. he's the right one for that message he's sending. >> well, when they were asking who wrote the speech, he said, we don't have speech writers, it was may pete who wrote the speech. there were so many echos of the kennedys, of j.f.k. and r.f.k. there and i'm not just talking about the obvious one, the new generation of leadership, but he
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sounded like bobby when he p he talked about living in a time that compels each of us to act or almost a j.f.k. -- sort of a ring of j.f.k. -- >> optimism, youth, new life. >> but also saying this isn't about winning an election, this is about winning an era. and, adrienne, you really did get the sense that this was a guy talk and -- i'll just ask you the response you got because i will tell you again mika, you know, when she was 9 years old, she was going to the white house. i'd been in politics for 25, 30 years. people call me all the time when they have a political comment. i must say other than barack obama running in 2008 and i remember as a kid ronald reagan in 1980, i never really got
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flooded with the type of phone calls and heard the excitement that i heard yesterday afternoon from republicans, independents and democrats. >> yeah. same here, joe. between mayor pete's speech and the masters, my phone was blowing up yesterday afternoon, too. and here's the thing. here's a guy who represents the next generation of democrats, who is in a red state giving a speech talking about how mayors are executives, which i think is an important message that, sure, i'm the mayor of a medium sized and i'm young, here's my vision. $ secondly, there is a region we do need to win back as democrats. we may not win indiana back this temperature time in 20-20.
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so it was veryin spiring to see this. with where does he go next? how and i think we're taking spt the question is can he scale this operation? all presidential operations as a friend reminded me yesterday, they have to be scaled and they have to be scaled quickly. a more important question for mayor pete is this db overwhelmingly white but you can't win by exciting educated white people in the democratic party. up have to have a more dihow will he fare among hispanics and black voters and other persons?
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>> you're right. we shouldn't lose sight of what a hark no one knew abouthe's be minor leagues. he has earned his spot on the big stage. he has proven adept to have a campai campaign. >> he's he resonating with a lot of people. the kennedy themes are there correctly, the comparisons you drew yesterday, but i was struck by the repeated use of the word you a disity. hives trying it link himself to
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bad freshman senator, sw but was still really an unnone to you're doing this too soon,or not ready. and maybe people or a lot of people think i'm too young or i don't look like or foot the bill of what america should likely. in. he is going to have to spack minority leaders so has some civil rights policing issues in his hometown as the nation gets to know hum better, but it was a remarkable first step yesterday. >> so, mika, jonathan brought up a really important point about the sudden rise of mayor pete,
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and that is making himself available. what we told candidates time and again when mike huckabee always made himself available, shocked the world with a win without a campaign staff and of course donald trump in 2016. trump always made himself available. people complained bitterly about the fact he was always on tv, that he was on this show, thieves on cnn and fox all the time. guess what? he made himself available. it was like cracking the code to fort knox to get other candidates on the show. we offered other candidates to come on the show any time they wanted to. call in. they were too a
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d.a. dave wept to new hampshire, kaemin pore o introduce yourself to the american people and if you or your campaign staff, if they're skill to that you and eddie, and i'd love to follow-up answer from adrienne on this but looking at where leads are come from, just in this moment in time, which is very early, i sort of feel like this kennedy concept, this young, new, millennial concept in beto, which i would love for him to come on the show to understand what he's like but i feel like that concept has been forced on me. don't tell me this candidate is the one. you hear about a and you feel
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this sort of contrived candidacy. and then lock at mayor pete, who has literally come out of nowhere, and it feels much more natural. it feels real. you hear him and he touches you. does that make sense? >> absolutely. i said on this show i believe it will be an interesting conversation when beto has to hold himself own against someone like mayor pete with regards to the millennials, in terms of pub stance i heard two things, one i heard that politician that sits in the pace between a die someone giving voice to that period of transition. >> the second thing i heard is mayor pete was looking for a new con accepts us story. when we talk about make america
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great again be where there was consensus narrative, a story that linked us pulp if it was a story about a srn understanding america that had turned its face away from all of this ugliness. but mayor pete suggested there's another way to tell a story of america, that think he put forward the outlines of a new con sensitive story but now it's time to join it with substantive policy. weep get et message, now what is your position on we just can't be slogan. >> so adrienne, does the democratic establishment see this can't? one could argue they missed what
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was happening in that's kindly putting it kwou former colleagues of mine over the past few days who said i'm interested in to transition from this sort of fringe candidacy, we'll see if it goes anywhere, to this guy's the real deal, i'm inspired by him, i think we can make this movement in something that actually is a full fledged, real be somebody that inspires people but. you can't really go anywhere, if i do think that beto in many respects has more to lose here.
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he narrowly lost to ted cruz, which is transitioning to a purple state in texas. but for somebody look him, he came on the scene. mayor pete was like i don't have a whol lot to lose and that aforwards you an unity to toe there were times when a mayor from a a medium-sized town could not run for president. he is moving that's pop the again, as the mirror image dro maybe pete has nothing to lose. who does that sond look? it sounds an awful lot like donald trump four years ago when he was taking a lot of bold positions, i would say reckless
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and irresponsible position but still felt like he nothing to lose. you could see it on the campaign trail every day. you sense that again with mayor pete, who will again get out there, go on interviews, take interviews. he's not afraid. and he's not afraid for americans to see who he is. >> and he's got the,josh, you were actually -- we're talking a lot about people on phones outside of south bend, indiana,out side, you were inside. tell us what you saw. >> it was pouring all all day long to south bend, joe. they had to move it into an old car factory instead of the car
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outside roomso the wreel and i have to tell you, they were all just enthused, they were revved up. weep talked to a lot of them who said that they've already made up their minds, you know, in is someone they hadn't known even existed a few weeks ago but a few instances of hearing him talk, hearing the they were pretty much sold. you are right, it was a very white crowd, more diverse in terms of age than it was in terms of other factors. and that is certainly something that i think butte generally is going to have to really work on, particularly given some of the cross currents of the democratic primary right now. but he certainly had a lot of enthusiasm and folks who seemed like they were taking from him something that they were not seeing in any other democratic candidate in this field.
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>> all right. we're going to have much more on mayor pete's announcement throughout the show. we're going to bring in "the washington post"'s robert costa, who is in south bend this morning. and as joe mentioned, dr. campbell picks up our checkup series. and another history making event on tap this week. bob mueller's report goes public. we'll get a preview of that just ahead. plus, the white house says congress isn't smart enough to look through the president's tax returns. does it also hold the american people in such low regard? that conversation and much more is coming up on "morning joe." n"
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the prime minister -- >> the mueller report's interesting. after $35 million with 13 increased to 18 angry democrats, people that were absolutely haters of trump, they found no collusion. it was an illegal investigation. it was started illegally. everything about it was crooked. this was an attempted coup. this was an attempted takedown of a president and we beat them. >> mika, i don't understand. he's panicking there. it's a laughable freakout on donald trump's part. he's just spitting out everything he can, he's swinging wildly and yet just a couple of weeks ago he was praising the investigation calling it honorable. remember when everybody was taking a victory lap? it sounds like he must be concerned with what's coming up. >> maybe.
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the redacted version on robert mueller's report is now expected to be released this week after more than two years of robert mueller's appointment as special counsel. on friday justice department officials were in the final stages of planning the delivery of this roughly 400-page reports to lawmaker. aides say president trump has become emboldened by attorney general william barr's summary, even as the white house awaits new details. there's no that that summary he released can encapsulate even one-tenth of what is in a 400 page report that include the quote he did use in his summary is that it is not an exoneration in terms of obstruction. so the stories in there and the evidence in there and the facts in there must be fascinating. >> john them lemire, you liked
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to listen to "dark side of the moon" while watching the "wizard of oz." remember when the wicked witch of the west starts crying "i'm melting, i'm melting." donald trump sort did that in front of the cameras. >> there was a similarity. >> there was a full-blown meltdown there. can you give us insight into why he went from saying robert mueller did an honorable job to this meltdown where he's spitting and crying about a coup and all that other nonsense, whatever he was spitting out. he sounded like a desperate man. what was going on here? >> i was more of a u2-rem guy in college. what we're seeing here from the president is american public has now waited almost two years for
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robert mueller's report. don't make plans the nks text tr three days because that's the wildly held belief is when we'll get to see it. but inside the white house you saw -- you played the clip there. right after barr put out his summary, the president was reliev relieved, called it a total exoneration, which it was not. he had that rally in michigan saying he was prove i don't know right, no collusion, that he was going to use this report as a political weapon against his enemies. that tone has changed the last would you mean of weeks. there's a growing recognition there's going to be if not criminal, damaging and embarrassing information coming out in this report. they know it's going to be a problem and they're going to take the barr summary and say that's what matters, that's the
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top line and that the report itself is just filling in the details. they're going to claim the democrats are going to twist it and take what conclusions they want aorney general has already made his ruling. let's point out the attorney general who made the ruling not to charge obstruction was appointed by donald trump after putting out his own as a private citizen letter suggesting doubt on the mueller investigation. the president and his white house will try to thread the needle here and it will be blue versus red, people are going to see what they want to see from it but certainly the white house issing if to try to ask their backers to suspend disbelief and believe barr and not mueller. >> that's like reading the cliff notes to "war and peace" and saying you didn't want to be bothered with the details of tolstoy, that you had led the
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cliff notes and was disregarding that. i, too, was a u2 and rem guy in college. so, mike barnicle, it really is quite a spectacle seeing this president pan being the way he is about a mueller report that he thought was put together honorably after the bar letter. >> joe, yesterday in the immortal words of bono and u2, it was a beautiful day. we saw an reaction, an old clip from the president complaining, donnie, but it somehow ties in, i think, to what happened in south bend, indiana as well. the contrast. people are on the edge of articulating a universal statement about this country when he says can't stop the clock and, you know, here we
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are. buttigieg is out there yesterday and he's kind, he has a message of compassion, of generosity, of normalcy in this exhausted country. and now weep have the mueller report apparently maybe tomorrow and the burdens that the normal citizens is carrying i just think someone's message like buttigieg is out there, it's resonating. >> i went to the exact same place, contrasting our a block and b block. you watch trump and we are not trump fans to saturday least and we know what the next week is going to be and we know there will be 50 more vile instances of inappropriate, quid pro quo, disgusting behavior and there's a fatigue. i still don't think it's going to move trump, he's at 43, he stays at 43, but the presidency and politics is an ongoing show.
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and you just saw those two different segments of the show. you saw buttigieg and hope and the goodness and then saw trump. you're starting to get the feeling 36 months into trump, which ever side you're on, there's a bit of a fatigue there. that's says it all. >> would you say the fatigue is indicative of a decrease in concern? the mueller report is going to hit and we still have the tax returns. even though mayor pete is offering as you better story, there's still the reality of the illness that we're in at the moment. >> but elections are choices. it comes down to a choice, you know, what do you want? i think an increasing number of americans want calmness. they want a restoration of the spirit of what they think this country is all about.
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the spirit is not lying, it's not malevolence, it's more to the side of what buttigieg was talking about yesterday. >> the other this evening we need to watch here as the report drops is not just how the president reacts to it but how do democrats react to it? do they take that as a basis to launch other investigations? do they take it and start talking imand the building blocks of the obstruction came in the mueller report i am told by several people are going to be enough that the average person politically damaging. now of course, mika, it's time for the part of our show, a new segment we're bringing out called "isn't it ironic," and o
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no, sarah sanders, hiironic is t a sport. >> trump tweeted "president obama's top white house lawyer gregory b. craig was indicted yesterday on very serious charges. this is a really big story. but the fake news the "new york times" didn't even put it on page one, rather page 16. "washington post" not much better. tiny page one. corrupt news!" >> so here we go, are you ready? i'm going to talk very slowly so people can figure this out at the white house. quote, very serious charges and a really big story. really? >> yup. >> well narks is exactly the
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charges that were brought against the president of the united states first national of course we speak of general michael flynn. if those are very serious charges, those are in fact, mook barnicle, the very serious charges that donald trump tried to get the fbi director to sweep under the carpet and kill the investigation. very serious charges. well, my god, if you are trying to kill an investigation and to, quote, very serious charges, the president's words are not mine, that sure smells like obstruction of justice. >> joe, in keeping with this segment -- >> isn't it ironic? >> well, in keeping with that segment, irony abounds, there is something in common that greg craig has with donald trump and it is this -- the southern district of new york, manhattan
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u.s. attorney's office chose to pass on prosecuting greg craig and they threw it to washington for whatever reason. the southern district of manhattan u.s. attorney's office has chosen not to pass on multiple events having to do with donald trump's presidency. >> okay. >> and you do have to question the timing of the investigation. >> very big story. >> and the indictment into greg craig after it was passed on by other prosecutors. but donald trump says it's a very sear and donald trump of course tell us equally serious and he tried to stop that investigation dead into its tracks. >> we thought it was a big story. still ahead, democrats extend the deadline for the irs to turn over president trump's tax returns, but even congress gets hold of those documents.
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i don't think congress, particularly not this group of congressmen and women are smart enough to look through the thousands of pages that i would assume that president trump's taxes will be. my guess is most of them don't do their own taxes, and i certainly don't trust them to look through the decades of success that the president has and determine anything. >> this is so gross. oh my gosh. sorry. i apologize. >> sarah sanders saying congress isn't smart enough to look through tax returns is like me saying someone is too loquacious to have a talk show. the part about congress actually relying on a statute to try to get ahold of the president's
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taxes, look through them and see if there are connections, and there are, with russia. >> i'm not going to lay it on the i.q. level of those sitting in congress right now. this is something the democrats are obviously looking to get. initially there was a deadline of last week for the white house to turn over the returns. we saw secretary of treasury mnuchin put out a letter saying they were still reviewing the matter, this was not something they were going to be able to comply with. according to our reporting at the a.p., this is an issue the president is highly interested in. he asks quite often what the status of that probe is and has also asked about the loyalty of those at the irs. over the weekend the democrats have now extended the deadline to another week or so, i believe it's april 23rd in order for the republicans -- for the white house to turn over those reports. there's no expectation they will. this is going to be something
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tied up for a while. mike barnicle, we have first of all, bernie sanders going on fox news tonight. but that's part of an underlying story that the "washington post" is reporting on that bernie is actually doing something other democrats are not doing. he's going after trump voters. for those of us that are inside the bubble and those of us that follow politics every day and those of us who always look through an idea logical spectrum on the right or left, this might not make sense. we heard it during the election and just couldn't believe it, people saying, well, i was going to vote for bernie but now i'm
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going to vote for trump. not massive amounts of voters saying that but enough to win wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvan pennsylvania. explain how that works. >> the idea of bernie sanders going on fox tv a great idea for sanders, the campaign and the democratic party. more democrats ought to appear on fox news. you're talking about the kind of party that many of them are democratic voters who have been screwed out of their paychecks and pensions and everything by the activities of multiple administrations but specifically now this administration in washington, d.c. and again, back to pete buttigieg, yesterday he addressed it when he said you can't stop the clock. he was speaking in the shelf an old understood bastudebaker fac talking about automobile factories that have been closed in ohio, he was speaking about factories in wisconsin along the
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rivers that have been shut down for years. they're not coming back. people who live in these places know they're not coming back and the idea is to tell them face to face the truth. >> and adrienne el rrod, we had two or three other candidates announcing their run for the presidency yesterday, eric swalwell, cory booker and then there's bernie sanders. and we're waiting on bide i don't know. bernie sanders is the other sort of underrated, sort of pushed to the side, at the top practically, at the top of most polls. so fund-raising in terms of the democratic establishment, looking at the right candidates, is it happening with bernie? >> yeah, mika, anybody who underestimates bernie's strength is doing so at their own peril.
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bernie sanders is the front-runner. if joe biden gets in, he and bernie sanders will be duking it out for front-runner status. when you look at some of these polls of where bernie is in iowa and new hampshire in particular, he is underperforming where he was in 2016. you'll recall that he narrowly lost iowa in 2016. i think it was 49.4, we won it at 49.7, as in hillary clinton's cam pawn. he's now performing at 20% in iowa. that's going to be an interesting factor to watch. does he pick votes, pick up steam or does he stay as a front-runner but not doing as well as he did in the early assassinates 2016? that's going to be a very interesting thing to watch. >> i agree, mika, that anybody who underestimates bernie sanders does so at their own peril. >> absolutely. adrienne el rod, thank you very much. see you soon. coming up, another example of the power of the president's
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words. congresswom congresswoman omar said she's experienced death threats. >> nancy pelosi has had to get extra precautions to protect her and her family. >> that is ahead on "morning joe." >> that is ahead on "morning joe. - [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this.
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congresswoman ilhan omar says in part "violent crimes and other acts of hate by right-wing extremists and white nationalists are on the rise in the country and around the world. we can no longer ignore that they are being encouraged by the occupant of the highest office
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in the land." that comes after an image of the congresswoman superimposed over images of 9/11 terror attacks. the audio of a speech, here is some of what she said. >> far too long we have lived with the discomfort of being a second class citizen. and frankly i'm tired of it and every single muslim in this country should be tired of it. care was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. >> the video tweeted by the president featured congresswoman omar saying some people did something rather than her entire quote. house speaker nancy pelosi said yesterday that u.s. capitol police and the house sergeant at arms are conducting a security
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assessment to safeguard congresswoman omar, her family and her staff following the president's tweet. there is a lot to talk about this this. we're going to attack this story straight ahead with a great group next hour. plus more on major pete buttigieg announcing his campaign around three words. and we'll be joined by another 2020 candidate, senator amy klobuchar. "morning joe" is back in three minutes. klobuchar. "morning joe" is back in three minutes. i was cured and left those doubts behind. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured. even hanging with friends i worried about my hep c.
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i'm here to join you to make a little news. [ cheers and applause ] my name is pete buttigieg. they call me mayor pete. i'm a proud son of south bend, indiana and i am running for president of the united states. [ cheers and applause ] >> welcome back to "morning joe." it is monday, april 15th. still with us mike barnicle, donny deutsch, eddie glaude jr. and karen timilty, john harwood
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and political reporter for "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst robert costa. he is the moderator of "washington week" on pbs. we were so happy this morning, joe, about this announcement by mayor pete and then you reminded me what meatball did right before we went on the air. >> i don't know that people want to wake up this way. then let's do it. >> we will not tell america that our wake-up call this morning was meatball coming in and, oh, no -- >> it was a lizard. >> a lizard, boom, right out on the floor. lizard just loves chasing things. a good question -- does that cat
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ever do anything good? of course he does but he's the cat that thinks he's a dog. bob costa and i talked this weekend and he said because he believed in chases the story he felt a journalistic instinct to go to to south bend, indiana. obviously, bob, it's a place you know very well. i must say in event yesterday, i'm just going to tell you from our vantage point of the phone calls we received, was electric. and i don't know that i remember a reaction certainly since barack obama 's announcement in 2007 like yesterday's. what was it like in south bend, indiana? what was it like inside that old studebaker plant?
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>> reporter: every rule of american politics say if you have a fast start in presidential politics, whether you're gary hart or howard dean, sometimes your bid fades. but the other rule is assume nothing, who can make it in american politics, who can win the presidency, president trump coming from way on the outside of the republican party to win the white house. when you see mayor pete buttigieg of south bend, yes, he's 37 years old, yes, it seem implausible for him to the president of the united states but having lived in south bend after college and followed his career, as a reporter i wanted to see where this could go, someone who is speaking to a new generation, moving beyond reagan politics and see if he could actually connect with the democratic party that may be searching for a new kind of standard bearer. it was quite a scene. in an old understood beaker factories, thousands cheering on
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this 37-year-old mayor, running as proudly as a gay american, running as a small town executive. they said maybe he's that kind of person from that part of the country who can counter president trump, but they know it's early on in this process. >> mika, bob brings up a great point about mayor pete's speech. when he talked about moving beyond reagan era politics, of course when i was coming up and was a ronald reagan supporter and 49 states. well, that was a reaction to what a lot people considered to be runaway government. well, we've had a correction, many americans would say an overcorrection over the past 40 years. but there's something much bigger than this that eddie talked about last hour, talking about how america is moving from
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one eand even in this world that donald trump idealizes, it wasn't really as great as people remember it being. it was tough. there were a lot of challenges for all americans. and what no politician has been able to put their arms around and provide solutions for, coherent solutions for, is the fact that so many americans grew up after world war ii when most of our global competitors have factories that were in ruins so in the 19 50z nds and 1960s, americans grew up with this belief, this unrealistic belief, that we were to dominate 90% of the world stage and that we would have no economic competitors and then the
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japanese started and and then in the middle east you had opec flexing their muscles and suddenly it was one story after another, one shock after another and americans have just sensed this decline that's been happening over 40, 50, 60 years. it's not a decline as much as it is just and instead of looking back going, my god, why can't we go back to the time where half of the world's industrial output is destroyed and laying in ruins so much we can dominate the world again, somebody has to look forward and say where do we go from here? because we're not going back to 1957. >> and what a great point that he made with a deep sense and
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knowledge of history and what the reality of that history is and what the reality of the moment is. this is a really smart guy. not just smart he's speaks multiple languages. >> a veteran. >> he is a veteran. he has served this country and he's everything that president trump is not, on every -- of president trump's most negative traits, this guy is the opposite. he has studied, he knows his history and he knows how to put it into words to make a real message moving forward. his staff is clear. they doesn't have speech writers. he wrote this speech. these are hit words. here's more of mayor pete speaking to america about what this moment really needs. >> the horror show in washington is membermerizing. it's all consuming. but starting today we're going to change the channel. [ cheers and applause ]
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[ cheers and applause ] . >> sometimes a dark moment bring out the best in us, helps us find what is good in us, dare i say what is great in us because i do believe in american greatness. i believe in american values. and i believe that we can guide this country and one another to. if you and i rise together to meet this moment, one day this le write histories, notes can about one cam pan and here today in this building where past, present and future meet right here this chilly day in south
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bend. [ cheers and applause ] >> it's a little cold out. it's a little cold inside, too. but we've had it with winter. you and i have the chance to usher in a new american spring. [ cheers and applause ] so with hope in our hearts and with fire in our bellies, let's get to work and let's make history! thank you! >> wow. >> yeah. >> robert costa, you were there. you heard him say change is coming, that we can't stop the clock.
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but it seemed i think to many people, and i'm interested in your view, that most of his speech was directed not at items like rebuilding the studebaker factory, with so much as it was moving away from my identity politics, to aversion of a president who speaks about rebuilding the faith that americans used to have in this country, rebuilding that kind of faith as a universal, all as one. >> that's correct, mike. it also leaves him potentially vulnerable in this democratic primary race because he's running against other contenders who have more detailed policy proposals out there like senator elizabeth warren though he referenced gun control and he
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talked about potentially overhauling the supreme court, dealing with the electoral college, eliminating that down the road. it had echos of the late ind condition a and you see in pete buttigieg saying i'm not going to compete on every inch ofle the and trying to cast himself and who speak more in the terms of democratic social i, more of the hard are left and he's more in the center left, at least at the moment. >> karen, you and i have soon a few of these presidential announcements. wonder, what was your take away from what we saw in is i first
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say buttigieg -- these weren't millennials. the average age i'd say was 60 and they were -- he has this riff about how republican but i talked to him afterwards. he said i'm not uno iist and he also said i know that there may come a time when i have a moment. i need to sort make sure that i'm npt and become the flavor of the week and then just disappear. i think he did that yesterday.
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>> john harrwood, you recently sat down with mayor pete for your series and up asked about his view of capitalism in the united states. >> what max capital -- >> it's a vicious cycle. it an interaction between private sector and public sector. and. >> you know, john, we talk so much, people looking at political campaigns talk shoch about lanes if you think's --
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tell us which lane you think he fits in or whether perhaps he may be one of those candidates that actually transcends traditional political plane lane? is forward raers back. i think it was a very key passage in his speech yesterday and his remarks previously that unlike president trump who went around saying i'm going to bring your manufacturing jobs back, bring your kole jobs back. no, we're not. the world economy is changing for the reasons that you were outlining before. it can ji has changed it, globalization has changed it. so he's trying to if to make a broad and he's got a significant advantage having word for
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mckenzie as both a mayor and management consultant, he's seen the set of pier groups you develop when you're in the u.s. military. and up made the very interesting point earlier about identity. i think we have a cl dant with my fellow soldiers, they didn't care if i went home to a boy friend or girl friend, they cared my m-4 was locked and loaded. we're all in in loaded together and i this i that is a powerful niche and this is somebody who is pretty gifted at sin they rising opinion but looking for
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how those principals can be ait the we talk about harvard and rhodes scholar, this this part and i think about this guy that he is a u.s. veteran, that he's from the military, wrapped in these other probably antithetical thanksgiving that you would put with that and to me in a boxing match, in a coke verse pepsi and a hertz vaeshs ash ashia about joe biden. joe biden i don't know comes out a week after this and you look at wide i am and i go back.
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>> i like them both. >> eddie glaude, it all about pr if if you were look at the odds, eddie, the oddmakers would have the three top candidates being men in their 70s, biden, bernie and trump. and i suppose -- i guess that's what makes the contrast of this 37-year-old mayor from middle america seems so much more striking. >> joe: right. not only the mayor but senator harris, senator booker. i mean, the democratic field -- they often he trying to avoid a
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kind of im isn't hpful and then he makes this point that gdp isn't the only measure he understands a critique of the economy that's really rest didn't to -- secondly, he has this ability to speak to evangelicals. he's ten and the way in which he can then open space for ivan jel who are not on the right, who aren't committed to that fick the importance of value, fanlly
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van u let's ten talking a little bit about the economy. donald trump of course tweeting attacks against the fed. it's fairly remarkable because donald trump is attacking the fed chairman he himself appointed much like he has, the cia director you pointed. in but this is actually causing real concern with the markets globally. talk about it. >> well, there's no question. what you have with president trump, he had this tax cut that he enacted with the republican congress that did provide a short-term boost to the economy. it was a significant stimulus that accelerated growth in the second and third quarters of
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2018. but now that that's running out, the economy is slowing down, he can see that. he's not achieving his promises of long-term sustained 3% growth. and so he's lashing out at people who he claims have cassed that to happen. so he blames the fed. i think he isn't a tweet this weekend saying we'd have 4% growth if not for the fed. there as lds of course, for the fact that the trade conflict he's initiated is part of what's hindering the economy. but this is a president who goes moment to moment and says whatever he thinks is good for him in that moment, whether whether or not it's rational or consistent with things that he's said before, and again, if you look at somebody like pete butte jj and see the calmness and even at 37 years old, he projects a certain level maturity that is in contrast to what we're
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getting out of the white house. >> yeah, i this i it's somethingemotional i.q. but, you know, the president's tweets but it's even worth coveri covering but he's got tweets going right now that we aren't even going to cover. they're sort of fitting in the kellyanne conway category of not being worth talking about because they're not true. >> cnbc's john harwood, thank you retch for bob went back o his alma mater forgiven the feelings about duke around the country, that would have been amazing.
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>> chris: and we begin at south bend, indiana. from your kfss, frsh what's the nbs goal? the challenge and the strategy for the buttigieg campaign at this time is expanding and building. they had $ f you saw at meetings across the board trying to figure out buttigieg has had issues with criticisms over his handling of the police department. and the firing of an african-american police chief. but now he has to do more be on.
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>> how would you describe president trump? >> how would i describe him? i think he describes himself on a daily basis. i think there's nobody in the country who knows better that he should not be president of the united states than donald trump. >> reporter: you think he knows it itself? >> i think he does, hwa with one of his white house challengers, senator aky club the conversation. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. right back. not buzzword fresh. but, actually fresh-fresh. fresh. at panera, we hand-pick berries at peak-season.
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joining us now is that state's senior senator and a contender for the democratic party's 2020 presidential nomination, amy clob sharr. she's also a member of the judiciary committee. so she's got a lot going on. good morning. good to have you. >> good morning, mika. >> so senator, there is -- it's sort of dangerous announcing a run for president in the midwest this years. yesterday pete buttigieg had to go inside an old studebaker factory. you -- >> the blizzard. >> you had all the snow there. it is fascinating, it used to be florida, florida, florida. that's what tim russert sold us. hooves right, back in 2004 and
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even twouf. about florida is still pretty important, as you know. i've already been down there and i'm going again. but in the midwest it's exciting to have another candidate from the heartland. it was getting a little lonely, and i welcome mayor pete to the race. i thought his announcement was fantastic. but i think the point here is that you've got a whole area in the country that in 2016 really felt like their voices weren't being heard. and they came roaring back in 2018, elected democratic governors like laura kelly in kansas. we beat ask the walker in wisconsin. so it is still going to be a very critical part of the landscape in 2020. that's why i've been going to all the wid but alsoing about
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who sees her house emerge for weeks as she looks at it in binoculars and talks about how it should there and the flood wart comes from a river that is two and a half mile away. what is that been about which is why i put to the such a strong, bold, infrastructure plan for this country. when the as he celebrates my tax bill today. one, why he hasn't put his own taxes out. and, two, how come he's adding a drl dolds toward the debt and nothing four our cry, like boards when you knocked on
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doors, would say something ls and then everybody would there i think the media is missing this. i'm hearing americans talking about what? what issue is it for you? >> what i've been most surprised at is how many people feel that they are being left behind and the issue that they brought up that i think hasn't been covered at all on tv are issues of drug addiction, mental health and not having a safety net for them.
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and maybe because what happened in but story short, it's crazy that has to do with health care and they're afraid of get being kicked off with preexisting conditions, which this president threatens them every single day but a lot of it has to do with fool and how at some point when he was pushed into treatment, he was pursued by grace. because of his faith and our family's faith, because of the treatment that he was given and that everyone in this country. amy, first of all, i'd love to
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hear your plan on what does the federal government need to do on the issue of addiction that probably not where you live. mental health. so many people suffered in silence with mental health challenges that their families didn't want to talk about it or their communities didn't want to talk about it. but now it seems that americans are not afraid to talk about rather lean forward wk. >> well, a lot of this has to do with making sure that health insurance covers mental health, just like physical health is covered. i led a bill on eating disorders, which is the number
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one mental health disorder that leads to death in women. it's something that no one ever talks about. we finally got some guarantee that their treatment would be available. i think i've talked with mika about this on the show before. >> yup. >> and another issue is opioid addiction and i have been really surprised when i've been out there -- again, it may have been because of my own personal story, because of what we're hearing to go to to because he spends his entire day dividing people and not coming up with solutions, piece who are deal with this and so one of my missions in the campaign, in addition to talking with the forward issues, and doing
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something to make sure when i get in there, i'm going to try to do something about it and not leave them behind. >> you mentioned eating disorders. i have a piece value of and the mental health treatment that i am seeking in i want o talk to you about fund-raising. president trump, his first quarter fund-raising is quite something. is there a concern what are your fund-raising numbers? how much does a candidate need to raise in order to win the l
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nol. we have several million dollars in the bank and. since our announcement, which was less than two months inging and want to have that base, not nm and you want to get in new contributions, which we have been doing. i don't think i have to tell you guys there are a lot of candidat candidateswe've. together a great team that we've heard i don't come from money. oof gotbrm and was able to win
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every county in the rural area, every congressional district that donald trump won. the congressional detectives in minnesota i want everyone and if i would have come at a better time, from the middle states and i think who knows that. but this wook its focus obviously is going o to be on the mule if and we have been debating other the past several weeks the words and the actions of the torng. i'm wondering do you believe
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mr. bar is an honest man? do you believe that he is serving the public interests in his actions or the. >> seems like it me he. i didn't support him because i feared this would happen. that is he gave that that who sent to all the president's importants are i don't think it's a surprise to do this as a page summary to set the tone before the report came out. there was no reason he had to do that. he could have said it going to take a few wooks ongoing vgss
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and pa even instead he chose to manipulate public opinion and i feel that's wrong. >> do you believe bill bar's an honest man? >> i don't think the way he approached this is honest. because if you wanted to approach it honestly, you wouldn't have tried to summarize it without putting the actual report out first. i don't think that summary served any purpose but to help donald trump. he basically was laying the groundwork to say, hey, this didn't look that bad. and now what we want to do is see the actual report because i've got to try to pass my legislation that would require if people want to get federal money for elections, it would require them to have backup paper ballots all across the country. it's a bipartisan bill. i nt, this is a national
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security issue, joe. we need that report to make the case. >> senator, back to issues that you claim correctly go uncovered in large parts of the media, on cable and the newspapers. last week three veterans committed suicide on the ground of various veterans facilities in this country. we have an average of 20 veterans who kill themselves, suicide victims, each week in this country. each day in this country. 20 a day. none of that appears on the front pages of our newspapers. none of that is a dedicated hour-long show on tv. you were talking about mental health issues. what can we do about this obscenity that goes uncovered 20 years at war in this country? 20 suicide a day. >> this is one of the saddest
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things. you have people that signed up to serve our country and when they come home, there was no waiting line when they signed up and when they come home, there shouldn't be a waiting line for mental health care or any kind of health care in this country. the first thing is to recognize that some of these service members are in places like the reserve and national guard. they don't go home to bases. they go home to small towns throughout our country because there's such a high rate of one of the things our state has done and pioneered is beyond the yellow rib on program. so that the management and those in charge at the guard are touching base with those service members all the time. they're required to do that so they can check in with their families to see how they're doing. the second is to make sure that they have excellent maelt care and that as a country we
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recognize that is is one of those wounds that maybe you can't see. it's not missing an arm, it's missing a leg but it's something that got in your head when you come back. so much that we're constantly checking in. and the third thing that we need to do is make sure we've got a safety net for these veterans, that we make sure there's not homeless veterans, they we make sure they get job, that we connect the services to them. our to help these members isn't just about the equipment they have when they serve, it's also about how we help them when we they get by the president of the united states who actually used that horrifying imagery from september 11th to launch a political attack against the congresswoman. what -- i'm just curious what your thoughts are. should the president -- should
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there be a formal statement condemning the president, the senate and the house? what are your thoughts? >> you know, statements condemning all of it rahal downis that we are not a country and rp something in the past. representative omar received a very serious death threat last week. a man was charged for making a very serious death threat against her. what does the president of the united states do? he puts out a video, he sends out a video to the nation that is nothing but hate. it was sent out for the purpose of inciting hate. ant if didn't that no one is following what is mott vatted some these mass hurds are or a
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white no one deserves to be put in the kind of risk that she's been put in bass. >> nor amy clob sharr, thank you so much for coming on the show. >> and the senator touched on leadership, a top ek we're exploring all week long on "know your value.com "o. specific can if in conversations with stacey abrams, claire
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mccaskill and carly fiorinna. join p we want to hear from you on these topics. up next, ahead of the 2020 election, the dnc has launched a new effort to point out all of president trump's broken promises. democratic national committee chair tom perez joins the conversation next on "morning joe." i can't believe it. that we just hit the motherlode of soft-serve ice cream? i got cones, anybody wants one! oh, yeah! get ya some! no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. ed! ed! we struck sprinkles! [cheers] believe it. geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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factories that could face closure. that's a look at a new ad from the dnc's war room. which is part of a campaign to highlight promises it says president trump failed to keep. joining us now, chairman of the democratic national committee, tom perez and "the washington pos post"'s editor has the first chairman. >> this seems to be an ad that goes directly to voters that senator amy klobuchar was just talking about, those people who
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felt their voices weren't being heard. who are in the upper midwest decided to take a flyer and vote for donald trump in the last election. do you think it's going to be enough for democrats to sort of make this 2020 election about donald trump, or are they going to have to make also an argument for these voters to sort of, to give the democrats another chance as well? >> i think we can, are and must do both. what these ads about, what this initiative is about and you can go on our twitter feed at dnc war room what it's about is telling that trail of broken promises. it's not simply a trail that starts and ends in the industrial midwest, it's a trail that goes all across the country, promises he made for military bases in new hampshire and virginia, pennsylvania and elsewhere. promises that he made about medicaid. you don't need to worry about losing your medicaid, you don't
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have to worry about losing your health care. people want to know when they vote for president next year can i trust that person. he said he was going to be a different kind of politician. drain the swamp. what we've seen is he is the worst kind of prince george's. just looking out for himself. what we're talking about in these very hyper local through the lens of local people campaigns is telling that trail of broken promises, and at the same time talking about who we are as democrats. democrats believe that health care should be a right for all and not a privilege for a few. we believe that the labor movement has been what has brought us the middle class and we should support the labor movement. we believe that these tax cuts, these reckless tax cuts are absolutely a promissory note on our children and grandchildren and we'll fight to make sure america works for everyone not just few at the top. >> staying in the upper midwest as much as the president made his appeal for those working class voters democrats lost a
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lot of those states because of a drop in turn out in places like milwaukee and detroit, these cities that have been so reliably democrat in previous cycles. how do you tell that story? how do you help the candidates, how do you tell them to re-energize those voters to come out to help perhaps offset gains that the president has made in other parts of those states >> we do that, john, by replicating what we did in 2018. in 2018 we ran the table in statewide elections in pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin to take three examples. minnesota for that matter. we did that by making sure we fielded great candidates, by making sure we organized every where, not just in a few zip codes but organized in every zip code. we led with our values. we talked about health care as a right for all. we talked about the fact that we must bring down the cost of prescription drugs. the other side is doing nothing. we're working to make sure we bring down the cost of
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prescription drugs. we make sure if you're diabetic you can keep your health care. mitt romney got more votes in 2012 than donald trump got in 2016 because there were obama, obama stayed home and obama jill stein. we talked to those people. that's how we're winning. the infrastructure we're building now at dnc, organizing infrastructure, using technology to our advantage, make being sure we have voter protection infrastructure in place every where. i think most importantly talking about a vision of an america that works for everyone, not just a few at the top. that's what we did in 2018, that's what we're continuing to do now, and i think we can continue that in 2020. >> just quick, in all those states you mentioned and in every state would you be
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hesitant to ask the voters the following question, are you better off today than you were four years ago? >> i wouldn't. people are one health care incident away from being destitute. senator amy klobuchar hit the nail on the end for all those folks making ends meet. if your salary goes up by a dollar and your health care goes up by $2 and your housing goes up $2.50 and the cost of a gallon of gas inches up you're not better off. you're worst off. that's the challenge we have. if you're very wealthy, you gotten wealthier. for everyone else you're struggling to make ends meet. you're struggling for your children as well because college still seems very unattainable to so many people. >> tom, it was a pleasure to work with you this summer. you guys were a great group to
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work with. i want to kind of guide you, you don't need the guidance but cheer lead along. it's not about donald trump it's about the voter. i love that ad. you say to people, he screwed you and here's why, here's what we got. they will pay attention. it's health care, wages, not donald trump. i don't want to see donald trump in one democratic ad. i want to see the voter and i want to see the facts. the facts are on our side. the issues are on our side. i think that's a great start, sir. >> i agree. what we're talking about how we have your back. when voters go to the polls, especially in a presidential they want to know who will have their back on issues that matter the most. the most important issue in this country, most important in 2018 is health care. and we have their back. i mean, we continue to fight for universal health care. continue to fight for people with pre-existing conditions to keep their health care and to make sure that if you're a person with a disability, you
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know, if we lose medicaid coverage, millions of people with disabilities, millions of people in long term care, so many people will lose their health care coverage. if you privatize the va you talk about what joe said in the previous segment. veterans are going to be even worse off. we're fighting for an america that works for everyone. we got your back. >> dnc chair tom perez. thank you very much for being on this morning. >> my pleasure. >> still ahead attorney general william barr is expected to release a redacted version of robert mueller's final report this week and judging by the increased ranting, president trump might be getting nervous. plus the split screen sunday. mayor pete buttigieg officially kicks off his 2020 bid. and tiger woods once again puts on a green jacket. "morning joe" is back in just a moment. just a moment.
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into this president? do you really believe attorney general barr read a nearly 400-page report in one day? and that his 4-page summary is the whole truth? i'm tom steyer, and i'm organizing an effort to to release the full mueller report now and let the american people decide. if you think we have a right to read the report for ourselves, you can call the attorney general at this number. our tax dollars paid for the report. don't let him cover up the truth. this time it's not just about winning an election. it's about winning an era. >> a couple of years ago i could barely walk. i couldn't sit. couldn't lay down. i really couldn't do much of anything. >> but we've had it. >> we never give up. that's a given. >> you and i have the chance to usher in a new american strength. >> you always fight. giving up is never in the
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equation. >> one day they will write histories not about just one campaign or one presidency. >> this is clearly one of those monumental days where people will say where were you. >> i am running for president of the united states. >> i know where i was. >> wow. happy monday. good morning and welcome to "morning joe". it is monday, april 15th. tax day. with us we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. well-known ad man donny deutsch. professor at princeton university -- >> wait a minute he went from legendary ad man to iconic. to well-known ad man. >> maybe a few people know who he is. that's where we're headed. >> i know. >> oh, my god. >> all in the tone. princeton university professor eddie jr. white house reporter from the associated press jonathan lapeer
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and adrian joins us. mika, a really special day yesterday, regardless of whether you used to root for tiger or not, whether you're a republican or a democrat. you actually, just saw two things happen. america stopped, a lot of americans stopped, based on the phone calls that were coming in from everybody. the phone was ringing off the hook yesterday like it hasn't. my gosh, in an era that -- >> long time. >> where you have 300 cable channels and a million youtube channels. for some reason yesterday, mika, everybody stopped. they are watching tiger. and they watched mayor pete. and i don't know, ten years from now, 20 years from now, just may be a day that a lot of people look back on and see history being made.
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>> well, we were shuffling my mom from room to room. let's go watch tiger. let's go back to mayor pete. my mom loves mayor pete and his speech like put her over the edge. our phone started ringing off the hook from reporters to republicans to democrats to people who really feel moved by this candidate. >> and mike barnicle, talk about, again, i don't want to overstate it, but you don't usually have sunday afternoons like we had yesterday. >> right. >> for sure. >> you just don't. with tiger woods, i would say seeing the end of an era, but my gosh, tiger could win for the next three or four years. we don't know. we never saw that coming. what an extraordinary moment. again, whether you like tiger in the past -- >> it was about more than golf. >> it was about so much more than golf. it was about redemption. him sinking that last putt and
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looking in a way like tiger has never looked after winning a tournament. other than winning that first where he went and hugged his dad. it was almost like this was the first time tiger woods understood that this moment wasn't a given, it was something extraordinary, something to be savored and something that was so special that he would never forget it. >> joe, in one sunday spring afternoon in augusta, georgia and in south bend, indiana, you had two stories that combined to truly represent part of what this country is all about. in augusta, georgia you had a story of resilience. you had a story of someone who hurt himself, by himself, self-inflicted wounds over nearly a decade get up off the floor, back in the batter's box and become a winner again. and it really is -- it really
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was an epic kind of personal story. then in south bend, indiana. >> by the way, mike, threw see him hugging his children, hugging his mom. this win more special than any win tiger ever had. >> probably the most special masters win that he had since his dad was alive when he won his first masters. now he's hugging his son who was just born the last time tiger won a major golf championship. but then you go to south bend, indiana as you were just talking about and you yet young mayor pete buttigieg and he's standsing there and talking to america and he's calm. he's compassionate. he's intelligent. he's not speaking down to people. he's not insulting people. he's talking about the future. and basically declaring that the past is the past. and you've been tricked. all of these people living in small mid-western and new england industrial towns you've been lied, to you've been
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tricked. the future is here. you either go forward or retreat into the distant history of the past. it was a remarkable day and two remarkable events. you're right to call them both remarkable. >> donny deutsch and you had one man whose career was considered over. showing again a second life, against all odds. and you had, again, driving north from augusta, georgia to south bend, indiana, you had another man roughly the same age showing a lot of americans the face and the political agility of a man who may be on america's political landscape for a very long time to come. >> we saw heroes yesterday. we saw two heroes in different ways. we have the president.
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maybe look back to our last democratic candidate whether you liked hillary or didn't like hillary never attach hero to her. you have two men that represent the new fays of merge. tiger changed the entire face of golf opening up to a new generation, obviously as an african-american ban and now pete buttigieg a gay married man. this is what the face of this country looks like. the face of this country is not a straight white man with gray hair. we have two people that everybody can root for and everybody has a different leaning now than it used to be. you felt good yesterday. there were two other thing that happened yesterday. there was a different tiger woods. the old tiger woods was the tiger woods we thought of as a ifan entitled guy. yesterday we saw a family guy with his mother and kids. we saw with mayor pete a good guy, a nice guy. >> a normal guy. >> the word "nice" and we talked
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about it this week to me will be a very, very important word. i think this country, nice with strength not soft nice. and to me we need that now. >> we do, donny, and there are a lot of nice candidates on the democratic field. >> the nice part about him, there seems to be a conciliatory way that deals with his enemies. i'm not saying they are not nice good people but as a brand what elm nature emanates from him is very nice. >> what we need from candidates and what you saw yesterday in south bend was good. good in every way. good in every way that trump is the opposite. we'll just leave it at that. mayor pete made his announcement yesterday in an olfactory. the rain was coming through the roof. everybody was wet and cold. he took on trump's promise to make america great again. >> that's why i'm here today.
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to tell a different story than make america great again. because there's a myth being sold to industrial and rural communities. the myth that we can stop the clock and turn it back. it comes from people who think the only way to speak to communities like ours is through resentment and nostalgia. they are selling an impromise of returning to a bye gone era that was never as great as advertised to begin with. the problem is that they are telling us to look for greatness in all the wrong places. i recognize the audacity of doing this as a mid-western millennial mayor. more than a little bold, at age 37 to seek the highest office in
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the land. up until recently this was not exactly what i had in mind either for how i was going to spend by eighth year as mayor and my 38th year in this world. but we live in a moment that compels each of us to act. the forces changing our country today are tectonic. forces that made this current. presidency even possible. that's why this time it's not just about winning an election, it's about winning an era. the america today feels like a confusing place to live. it's because we're on one of those blank pages in between chapters. change is coming ready or not.
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the question of our time is whether families and workers will be defeated by the changes beneath us, or whether we will master them and make them work towards a better every day life for us all? in a moment like that calls for hopeful and audacious voices from communities like ours and yes it calls for a new generation of leadership in this country. well written, well delivered. he's the right one for that message that he's sending. >>and les smith was asked who wrote the speech he said we don't have speech writers. there were so many echoes of the kennedys, of jfk and rfk. i'm not just talking about the obvious one, a new generation of
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leadership. but he sounded like bobby when he talked about living in a time that compels each of us to act, or almost a jfk sort of ring of jfk when -- >> optimism, youth. >> optimism. new life. >> also saying this isn't about winning an election, this is about winning an era and adrian you really did get the sense this was a guy talking about a torch being passed to a new generation, and i'll just ask you the response you got because i will tell you, again, mika, you know, when she was 9 years old she was going to the white house. i've been in politics for 25, 30 years. people call me all the time when they've political comment. i must say other than barack obama running in 2008 and i
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remember as a kid ronald reagan in 1980 never really got flooded with the type of phone calls and heard the excitement that i heard yesterday afternoon from republicans, independents and democrats. >> yeah. same here, joe. between mayor pete's speech and the masters. my phone was going yesterday too. here's the thing. here's a guy that represents the next generation of democrats, who is in a red state, giving a speech, talking about how mayors are executives. which i think is a very important message that he delivered. he reminded people sure i'm the mayor of a medium size town and i'm young but i too can be president of the united states and here's my vision. so i think representing mayors in that context is very important. secondly this is a region we do need to win back as democrats. we may not win indiana back this time in 2020 but we need to start rebuilding the democratic
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party in this region of the country. so it was very inspiring to see this. the question now becomes where does he go next? how does he channel this enthusiasm and excitement into a real full fledge campaign? we're seeing that take shape at this moment. still ahead on "morning joe" president trump said bob mueller was an honorable man. of course trump's legal team said the same thing about michael cohen. we'll check in on which position the white house currently holds about the special counsel. you're watching "morning joe". we'll be right back. right backr own version of best ball. because here, you can choose any car in the aisle, even if it's a better car class than the one you reserved. so no matter what, you're guaranteed to have a perfect drive. [laughter] (vo) go national. go like a pro.
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the mueller report is interesting. after $35 13 increased to 18 angry democrats, people that were absolutely hater of trump, they found no
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collusion. it was an illegal investigation. it was started illegally. everything about it it was crooked. this was an attempted coup. this is an attempted take down of a president. and we beat them. >> mika, i don't understand. he's panicking there. it's a laughable freak out on donald trump's part. he's just spitting out everything he can. he's swinging wildly. and yet just a couple of weeks ago he was praising the investigation, calling it honorable. remember when everybody was taking a victory lap. it sounds like he must be concerned with what's coming up. >> maybe. the redacted version of robert mueller's report on russian election interference is now expected to be released this week. nearly two years after mueller's appointment as special counsel. the "wall street journal" reports that on friday justice
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department officials were in the final stages ofg the delivery of roughly 400-page, this 400-page report to lawmakers. meanwhile the "new york times" reports that aides say president trump has become emboldened by attorney general william barr's summary. even as the white house awaits new details. there's no way, by the way, that summary he released can encapsulate even one tenth of what is in a 400-page report that inlucludes in the quote in the summary it's not an cohnaticohn ati -- exoneration. the facts in there must be fascinating. >>on unanimous lapeer i know you used to watch the dark side of the moon while watching wizards of oz. remember the wicked witch of the
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east cries i'm melting, i'm melting. donald trump did that politically in front of those cameras. he was in a full blown meltdown there. can you give us some insight as to why he would go from doing robert mueller did an honorable job after the barr report came out to this meltdown where he's spitting and crying about a coup and all that other nonsense. whatever he was spitting out. he sounded like a desperate man. what's going on here? >> first, i was a youtube guy oriented guy in college. what we're seeing from the president -- first of all, the american pum has waited almost two years for robert mueller's report. don't make plans for the next two or three days. that's when we'll see this or some of it. how much of this will be redacted when it's handed to lawmakers and, of course, the media also gets to see it. inside the white house we saw,
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you played the clip, right after barr put out his summary the president was relieved. called it a total exoneration which it was not. he said robert mueller acted honorably. he took his victory lap. he and his allies did. he had that rally for 15 minutes on a screen saying he was proven right, no collusion. he was going to use this report as a political weapon against his enemies. that tone has changed in the last couple of weeks. there's a growing recognition from the people around the people that there will be damaging information coming out. they know this will be a problem. their strategy is this. they are going to take the barr summary and say that's what matters, that's the top line, that is how -- that is what matters and the report itself is just filling in the details. they will claim the democrats will twist it and take conclusions they want from it while the attorney general has already made his ruling. now, of course, let's point out
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look through the decades of success that the president has and determine anything. >> so gross. >> sarah huckabee sanders -- >> oh, my gosh. sorry. i apologize. >> sarah huckabee sanders saying congress isn't smart enough to look through tax returns. you just wonder why she would say such a thing but she did. jonathan lapeer where does this end? not the sarah huckabee sanders part, the part about congress actually relying on the statute to try to get ahold of the president's taxes to see if there are connections and there are with russia. >> i won't weigh in on the i.q. level of those sitting in congress right now but this something that democrats are obviously looking to get. representative neil heads the committee. initially there was a deadline last week for the white house to turn over to returns. we saw secretary of treasury mnuchkin put out a letter saying they are still reviewing the
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matter. of this not something they could come ply with according to our reporting at the ap. this was an issue that the president is highly inned in and asks advisers around him quite often what is the status of the probe and what is the loyalty of those working at the irs. he's questioned the loyalty of those at the justice department in the past. over the weekend the democrats have now extended the deadline to another week or so. i believe it's april 23rd in order for the republicans, for the white house to turn over those returns. there's no expectation they will. this is something that will be tied up for a while. eventually it appears from most accounts that the law is on the democrats side, the president and his allies are willing to kick this to court. >> mike barnicle a couple of bernie stories i want to touch on briefly here in this mayor pete hour of power. we had first of all bernie sanders going on fox news tonight.
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hosting a town hall meeting. i think it's a brilliant move. i don't care what the national democratic party says. i think it's a brilliant move going over to fox news. it's part of an underlying story that "the washington post" is reporting on that bernie is doing something other democrats are not doing. he's going after trump voters. for us inside the bubble and follow politics every day and those of us who look through an ideological spectrum this may not make sense. after the election and we heard it during the election and couldn't believe it, people saying, well, i was going to vote for bernie, but now i'm going to vote for trump. not massive amounts of voters saying that but enough to win wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania. explain how that works. >> well, you know, the idea of bernie sanders going on fox tv is a great idea for sanders the campaign and the democratic party and more democrats ought to appear on fox news because you're talking to the kinds of people, many of them, not all of
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them, many of them are democratic voters who have been screwed out of their paychecks, their pensions and everything by the activities of multiple, multiple administrations, but specifically now this administration in washington, d.c. and, again, back to pete buttigieg. yesterday he addressed it when he said you can't stop the clock. he was speaking in a town, in the shell of an old studebaker factory. he was talk about towns where textile mills are gone. he was speaking about factories in wisconsin along the rivers that have been shut down for years. they are not coming back. people who live in these places know they are not coming back. and the idea is to tell them face-to-face the truth. >> and adrian, give us a sense of the other candidate? . we had two or three other candidates announcing their runs for the presidency yesterday.
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eric swalwell, cory booker, and then there's bernie sanders. and we're waiting on biden. bernie sanders is the other sort of underrated sort of pushed to the side, for got at the top practically of most polls. so fundraising in terms of the democratic establishment, looking at the right candidates, it is happening with bernie? >> yeah. i mean, mika, anybody who under estimates bern ace strength in the democratic primary is doing it at their own peril. he's the front-runner at the moment. bernie sanders is the front-runner. joe biden gets in he and bernie sanders will be duking it out for front-runner status. what i think is interesting when you look at these polls right now in terms of where bernie is in iowa, new hampshire in particular. he's underperforming where he, where he was in 2016. you'll recall, mika, that he won or nearly lost iowa in 2016.
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it was 49.4. we won it by 49.7 hillary clinton's campaign. he's forming 14% to 16% in iowa. that's an interesting factor to watch. how does bernie does he pick up votes, pick up steam or does he stay as a front-runner but not doing as well as he did in the early states in 2016? that's a very interesting thing to watch. coming up on "morning joe" -- >> how about coffee? if i don't have my coffee i'm done. >> i gave it up during lent which is my annual opportunity to reset my caffeine tolerance. then went you get back to it you feel you won a prize. a lot of campaigns run on that price. >> dr. dave campbell caught up with mayor pete for an exclusion jennifer conversation ahead of the mayor's presidential announcement. that candidate check up is next on "morning joe". ♪ limu emu & doug
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russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. >> when i'm being sarcastic. >> were you being sarcastic. >> of course. when you see these thugs being thrown in the back of a paddy wagon, thrown in rough. don't be too nice. >> he was making a joke. >> they were like death. unamerican. unamerican. somebody said treasonous. yeah, i guess why not. >> the president was clearly joke with his comments. >> this just came out. wikileaks. i love wikileaks. >> clearly the president was making a joke during the 2016 campaign. just remember the president is merely joking. before mayor pete launched his campaign in indiana over the weekend he was already laying the ground work in new hampshire. that's where "morning joe" medical contributor dr. dave
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campbell caught up with the 20 contender to kick off our new series about the candidate and their health. ♪ >> this one person is smarter than all the old people i ever met. >> i found him extremely engaging. >> he's exactly the type of person we need in washington now. >> i like his morals, his values. >> the thing that resonates with me the most is when he talks about the future. >> i would like to hear more about his foreign policy. that's a big part of the president's job. >> he's an the intelligent person. he doesn't speak down to people. he also is trying to promote the christian left as opposed to the christian right. >> reporter: i first met mayor pete in new hampshire. he's a harvard educated rhodes
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scholar. a deeply rogers person. we talked life, family, policy of, health and the future of health care in america. >> the bottom line is we need to make sure everyone gets great health care. that's an easy thing to same but the mechanics of differing is not so sell. how do we make sure everybody has some kind of coverage guaranteed to them. if you're a part of america, one of the things america does for you is we make sure you have coverage. >> how do you stay healthy on the trail? >> campaign life puts a lot of pressure on somebody's mental health. i think a lot about how to stay rooted. part of it is time management. make sure you have decent amount of sleep. enough that i can function. make sure i'm in touch with things that is for my life. my marriage, my parent, my mother.
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faith is part of that at least it is for me. you got to -- and physical exercise is part of how you can take care of your mental health. >> diet. >> really important. i try to do the right thing. in my case it's only possible if there's a cheat day every now and then. >> what's your favorite snack. >> we have a cheeseburger place in south bend that's irrestible. >> smoking? >> i'm guilty of a cigar. >> let's walk back. >> the values of our party are the right values. but maybe we got to find a new way to talk about some of those things. i look to you to help me make a few friends around this state. >> we're here with mayor pete. the museum is full 300 people. there are another 100 people outside. this event has grown
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dramatically all around mayor pete. >> i'm probably not what you picture when you think about your next president. all right. then we're getting somewhere. i hope i can count on you and i'm that you feel for you being here. thank you. >> it's really a lot of enthusiasm for that generation of energy. what's exciting me the most not just coming from younger voters but people my parents age that would like to support generational eyes. >> elected at 29 no mayor has ever run and won their party's nomination for president in our history. nor has anyone under the age of 43 ever been president. this former intelligence officer in the united states navy reserve served in afghanistan in 2014. his military experience has trained him well for the
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campaign trail. he's passionately dedicated to his health and fitness and we caught up with him in the gym at 6:00 a.m. >> exercise works. >> yeah. only time to do it. >> i don't know how you do it. how are you going to zmoit you have months to go. >> i have a running group back home. i know somebody is waiting on me. but with me on the road so much we'll have to make sure at least every so many days there's some gym time in there. my bible for working out is the guy that puts out for kids who want to go buds and be in the s.e.a.l. program. i have a good way of doing swimming, lifting. if anybody had the time to do it, anybody can be in perfect shape. >> how about coffee. if i don't have coffee i'm done. >> i give it up for lent which is my annual opportunity to reset by caffeine tolerance. then went you get back to it that first cup of coffee an you feel like you won a prize. a lot of campaigns run on that
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stuff. >> being around mayor pete makes you feel wholesome and i had gentle kind way is infectious. wanting to spend as much time together as we could we jumped into his examine car and went along for the ride. he shared why he's running for president. >> i learn for the first time last night your father had passed. i'm sorry to hear about that. is there anything about your family life, close personal things that you experience that speak to how you will be thinking of other americans in your decision-making for their health issues? >> while we were making decisions about, about supporting dad in his final weeks as he was losing his struggle with cancer, we were just thinking about the medical side. not the financial side. except for one period where we were looking at long term care. you don't want a family to have
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to think about that. >> how have you come to the decision to run for the presidency? >> there was kind of a dawning awareness that i had something to offer that was different than the others. as i was watching this field take shape, filled with people, by the way, that i admire. but you could see it take shape and in my view you could see it missing something. and we marry that up to this moment where it feels like americans in general, democrats in particular, are looking for something different. i'm nothing if not that. it's a little bit of a crazy act for anybody to step forward to do this. >> to think that you could do it puts you in a small unique pool of people, to feel like you really have it in you to be able to pull this off. >> yeah. there's an audacity to it. it's a little bit obscene for anybody to look at that office
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if you truly understand the gravity of the decisions made there and think you can walk in and do that job. >> i agree. >> yet all of the people that have done it have been people. impre impressive people. >> have you decided what your nickname will be with donald trump? >> who knows. we don't know. i'm sure he's got a lot of options. so, mika, a look, just the daily routine, and boy i tell you, you look at some of those new hampshire crowds, you sort of get a behind-the-scenes look there of just how he lived but it's getting intense on the campaign trail. >> it really is. it really is. i think what i found fascinating there is when dr. dave was asking him about his health. i think most go to answers would be well i jog every day and try
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to drink a lot of water and i'm worried. he went right to mental health, which is something that i've been focused on in know your value because it is really the root of all your health issues. it starts with your mental health. he went right there and then went from mental health to faith in terms of his physical health. which i found absolutely fascinating. >> you know, eddie, for so long it seems that democrats have ceded the ground on the national level on faith to republican party who aggressively claimed it as their own. that is one thing that certainly is different with mayor pete and we saw it there again. asked about his health, he talked about his spirituality as well. >> it's not just mayor pete. we heard amy klobuchar in the lass segment invoke grace, that he pursued grace. we hear cory booker on the
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campaign trail talking about love. trying to elevate the discourse. trying to in some ways take up a religious language that's not necessarily tethered to a tradition but to say that the democrats which has often been a group thought of as the secular side of american politics, actually talking about family values, actually talk about religious commitments and what i love how mayor pete does it he's unashamed in a way in which he embraces his religious identity. they he links it and tethers to his own political and progressive campaigns and commitments. so i think it's interesting. it's an interesting path forward for the democratic field. >> it certainly is a transformational path. you know, mika, we heard nancy pelosi several years ago starting to talk more about faith as it was connected with the democratic party. but you are hearing, amy klobuchar talking about the
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grace of god. mayor pete talking about his religious faith. other democrats doing the same thing. it's almost as if the republican party for the first time in a generation opened themselves up to a weakness in this side of the electorate, really, for the first tomb since jimmy carter ran in 1976 by embracing a man that is perhaps the most secular candidate in donald trump in the history of this republic. >> and you can read an essay from dr. dave on our site. joe.msnbc.com. all about his experience with mayor pete. up next -- a month and a half after the collapse of the hanoi summit, president trump and kim jong-un say they are ready to try again. we're back in two minutes. t. rf our experts go beyond the numbers to examine investment opportunities firsthand.
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moon jae-in at the white house last week, kim told his parliament that he is open to a third summit with trump. who wouldn't be? while adding he has no interest if the u.s. continues to push what he claims are unilateral demands which he blames for the collapse of the last summit. kim, however, also says the two could continue to exchange personal letters at any time. trump responded on twitter, quote, i agree with kim jong-un of north korea that our personal relationship remains very good. perhaps the term excellent would even be more accurate and that a third summit would be good. north korea has tremendous potential for extraordinary growth, economic success and riches under the leadership of chairman kim. i look forward to the day when nuclear weapons and sanctions can be removed and watching north korea become one of the most successful nations in the world. >> dramatic reading presented by
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mika. >> i say who wouldn't want to have a summit with him because, honestly, he just throws everything on the table and gives everything away. joining us now -- >> let's bring in retired u.s. diplomat robert blackwell. he served as u.s. ambassador to india and is now the henry kissinger senior fellow for u.s. foreign policy, the council on foreign relations. he has a new piece out for the council entitled trump's foreign policies are better than they seem. >> oh, good. >> why don't we start with north korea there, mr. ambassador, and explain how donald trump's actions in north korea are actually better than they seem. >> all of his predecessors tried an approach of starting at the official level and trying to go up. and they all failed. and so north korea continued to develop its nuclear weapons and missile capabilities. the president has tried a different approach. it may not work, but it's right
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to try a different approach since all the other efforts by his predecessors failed. let's not count him out now, if i may say. i don't believe the hanoi summit collapsed as many have said. they just didn't agree. so let's see. it may be that it won't work, but it was worth trying. >> and we've heard talk from the very beginning that the president has been pushing, his team has been pushing for denuclearization, but that's a position the north koreans will never take. again, according to most foreign policy experts. so how does that disconnect get resolved? >> i agree that the north koreans are never going to get rid of all their nuclear weapons. but there could be a step by step approach begin with the freeze, a continuation of the freeze on testing of both missiles and nuclear weapons. and then trying to get at the question of the size of their arsenal and capability of their missile systems. but i agree with you entirely.
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they're not going to get rid of all of them and that's a completely unrealistic objective. >> president trump, his approach on foreign policy is often very tactical, strategic, transactional. but so many of his predecessors view the job in terms of dealing with other world leaders, an opportunity to establish american values. you give him a report card if you will. a b on israel policy. a b-plus on china, an f on russia and f on the promotion of u.s. values at home and abroad. do you think that could ever change? could he ever make that grade go up? >> i spent 14 years as a professor at harvard. you always hope students will get better, but the report ends with a mepessimistic thought whh is he's probably not going to get better and perhaps will get worse. i give him a grade on 18 of his policies. the importance of that grade is
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that our capacity to project power abroad is closely, closely connected to our domestic solidarity. and he wakes up every morning and seeks to divide the country which makes it less likely that we can project power effectively. >> and that's where i think we agree, actually. former ambassador robert blackwell, thank you for being on the show. we'll be reading your analysis for the council on foreign relations. time now for final thoughts. joe, you start. >> well, i think we talked about at the beginning of the show, yesterday was remarkable. the split screens from augusta, georgia, and south bend, indiana. it was an uplifting sunday. there were a lot of reasons to be positive. a lot of reasons to be happy. a lot of reasons to have hope. and for me, the tiger story is
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incredible. again, a story of redemption but also with mayor pete. it was wonderful seeing merit being rewarded on the campaign trail. in a way it hasn't in quite some time. >> mike barnicle? >> yeah, you know, yesterday and today, obviously, we paid a lot of attention to pete buttigieg. and i would just offer this. running for president is an abnormal decision to make for anyone, when you look at the size and scope and the demands and impact of the job. but i don't think you can ever underestimate the appeal of normalcy to a candidate. and pete buttigieg, in addition to appearing to be calm, compassionate, humane is normal. and i think it has great appeal to a lot of people. >> donnie? >> just a great cloud on top of it. just friday trump paraded his sanctuary city policy which is
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something that doesn't understand that we're dealing with human beings and what continues to really frighten me is a man with these sociopathic tendencies with the same time now has our leading law officer basically in his pocket and says he'd come right out and say he'd misuse the military and would pardon them. scary place. >> i just -- four qualities that stand out this weekend. resilience, grit, vision and possibility. we need all of them in the face of what we're confronting right now. >> and, of course, jonathan lemire, eddie is talking about the boston red sox victory yesterday over the baltimore orioles. >> yesterday was a remarkable american day. today is our most important holiday. it's patriots day in massachusetts, which is the running of the boston marathon. barnacle is on his way to the starting line and the red sox, 11:00 a.m. first pitch. a lot of america's freedom began with this patriots day. let's remember that as well as americans also have to pay their
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taxes. >> mika, final thoughts? >> you know, i think we had kind of a hopeful show. and it was really nice to be talking about something other than donald trump for quite some time. and that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> thanks, mika. thanks joe. i'm stephanie ruhle with a lot to cover this morning starting with 2020 vision and a whole lot of campaign kickoffs. pete buttigieg officially joins the crowded race for the white house. >> do we not live in a country that can overcome the bleakness of a challenging and divided moment? you and i have the chance to usher in a new american spring. >> and patriotic millionaires. it is tax day. and we know most americans want to shrink their tax bill, but a group of wealthy business leaders say they should actually pay more to the government while