tv First Look MSNBC April 16, 2019 2:00am-3:01am PDT
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♪ the paris skyline forever altered. new updates this morning on the devastating fire at the historic notre dame cathedral. plus awaiting the mueller report. the redacted verse of the special counsel's findings is set to be leased within days. the new information we're expected to learn. mayor pete gets a big fundraising bump as he pulls in $1 million following his
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official entry into the 2020 race. good morning, everybody. it is tuesday, april 16th. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're going to start with the latest on that catastrophic fire at notre dame. officials say the structure of the cathedral itself has been saved and preserved as a whole while the fire spread to one of the two famous rectangular towers have been spared. firefighters were able to prevent the fire from spreading to the northern belfry. most of the roof of the 12h and 13th gothic cathedral has survived. officials say the fire started about 6:45 p.m. local time. roughly around closing.
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the exact cause is currently unknown but french media is quoting the paris fire brigade that it's potentially linked to a major renovation project on the church's spire and 250 tons of lead. joining us now from paris richard engel. richard, bring us up to date on what you know so far. just a devastating fire unfold yesterday. >> reporter: well, people here in paris this morning are waking up to see that their skyline is different and is diminished. that the spire that for so many years has pierced the sky is no longer there. burned way. the roof burned away. they are focusing on the renovation work under way and began to question some of the construction workers involved in the renovation to see if any accidents may have occurred or any negligence was responsible. so far paris police do not think arson was the case.
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they say this is being investigated as an accident. but an accident that's consider a tragedy here. people have been coming together. they have been singing. they have been praying. they have been gathering to just look and see what happened. i must say it feels that it has brought this city together. i did not sense anger. i saw a lot of people holding hands. staring. and having a moment of reflection. >> richard, we did here from french president emanuel macron definitely wanting to rebuild in the future the notre dame cathedral. obviously it will never be as it once was considering the history that that cathedral has. but any idea, any indication how long it would take and how much it would cost to restore? >> reporter: so there is some good news in all of this in that the cathedral is still here. it's still standing. the structure is there. architects are meeting right now
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to determine how strong it is because they want to make sure that it is safe enough to allow firefighters to going and continue their salvage operations. the french president emanuel macron has said that it will be rebuilt. he's pledged it is something that the french people deserve. that their history deserves. he's put out a nationwide call to raise money to rebuild it. already there have been several very large donation, about $300 million raised so far. but it's unclear how long it is going take because they are still assessing how much damage there was. >> an incredible loss for paris, for the country of france, for the world really. thank you very much. we'll talk the to you again in a little bit. back here at home president trump has also been reacting to what took place yesterday. he first took to twitter writing so horrible to watch the massive fire in paris. perhaps flying water tankers can be used to put it out. that idea was quickly shot down
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by french officials for a variety of reasons. france's civil defense said a large water drop could cause the entire structure to collapse but endang firefighters and civilians on the ground. trump later addressed the situation at a round table in minnesota. watch this. >> i'll tell you the fire that they are having at the notre dame cathedral is something few people have witnessed. that's beyond countries, beyond anything. it's a part of our growing up. it's a part of our culture. it's a part of our lives. that's truly a great cathedral and i've been there and seen it and there's no cathedral, i think i could say, no cathedral in the world like it. it's a terrible scene. >> the justice department says that it expects to release special counsel bob mueller's redacted report on russian meddling in the 2016 election
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and potential obstruction of justice by president trump on thursday morning just before the start of the easter holiday weekend. an official who spoke mueller's team has told nbc news that the report described the evidence on obstruction as compelling and includes more information than made public by attorney general will barr. the official said some within the special counsel's office said their purpose was to leave the legal counsel open for congress and public to examine the evidence. it's not clear how mueller feels about that matter. last night on msnbc news, john brennan shared what he's going to be looking for to determine how transparent the justice department is being. . >> i was involved in a lot of redactions and if i'm going see pages full of black or paragraphs upon paragraphs full of black they are not taking an approach that tries to be as transparent as important, they are trying to cover it up. 400 pages, i'm sure there's a lot of information that will be redacted but should be partial
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sentences or maybe sentences but not full pages of things. >> the big question is how much will be redacted from the mueller report. with president trump's treasury secretary pushing back on congress seeing his tax returns congress is now looking at lenders. they are going to deutsche bank and others to seek information about money laundering. three people with knowledge of the investigation are currently telling the "new york times". deutsche bank is the president's biggest credit tore. having len trump well over $2 billion over the years, including more than $300 million outstanding loans when he took office. the bank is providing information consistent with its legal obligations. the house ways and means committee has set a new deadline of april 23rd for the irs to turn over the president's tax returns. the person who says he'll make that decision treasury secretary
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steve mnuchkin compared the democrats efforts to something richard nixon would have done his political employees. >> this isn't an issue just about the president's tax returns and congressional oversight. this is an issue about protecting americans, and as we've said we're analyzing the law, we're consulting with the department of justice. i want to make sure that the irs is not weaponized like it was in the nixon administration. you can imagine how dangerous it would be if the irs was weaponized. >> joining me from washington is daniel lipman. hearing from steve enough i feel confident mnuchkin will not be forth coming with those taxes or hand them over as we've seen over the last couple of weeks or so in this process. now we're learning democrats are subpoenaing deutsche bank to get some financial disclosures from them per trump's finances.
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do you think that there is a possibility they could learn more about the president's taxes from these overseas lenders? >> i think that's definitely a possibility. you know, we don't -- most people aren't sending copies of their tax returns to every bank but with trump given that he was a very wealthy individual, you know, he would have been told by deutsche bank we have to see what your financial statements look like. we have to see how much money you make every year. how much assets you have in order for us to give a loan to you. i can definitely see some of those returns in those documents, but that's going to take a long time through the courts. what we should also note is deutsche bank was the only major bank that would lend known trump because all of the other major banks, and i've talked to some of them, they just refused to do that because he was a bad credit
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risk. >> i want to talk about the release of the mueller report, the pending release of the mueller report which is likely going to be released thursday morning as is being reported. how is the white house preparing for this? >> so, there are two schools of thought in the white house. one is there's nothing there, it will prove no obstruction, no collusion. the other is people say well it's 400 pages there's got to be something in there. i talked to white house aides who say there's going to be some nuggets that will be very embarrassing for the president. and also you have the fact that trump, white house aides and former aides are worried that, you know, the competent of their cooperation with the mueller probe will be seen in this report and that will not be good for their relationship with president trump. >> we'll certainly have to wait and see. i imagine it's a situation where you have republicans and democrats cherry picking exactly what they want from the mueller
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report to complete their narrative and then we'll be back at square one fighting to see the full thing. thank you so much. still ahead the latest in that wide reaching college admissions scandal as actress lori loughlin faces new charges stemming from that case. danny cevallos is here to break it down. plus a check on your weather when we come back. e come back. sometimes, the pressures of today's world can make it tough
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both free on bail waived their right to appear in a boston courthouse and allowed their lawyers to enter a not guilty plea. joining me on set legal analyst danny cevallos. talk to us about how worried lori loughlin should be, and this new not guilty plea that they submitted yesterday. >> any time a defendant is in federal court they should be very worried. this is a classic government prosecution maneuver here. notice there were defendants who were offered a deal early on, what looked like a single count of wire fraud. those that did rushed in, pleaded guilty. those that waited around decided not to plead not guilty, what a surprise a supnew indictment. that's why the federal government has something along the lines ever 95% conviction rate because there are so many guilty pleas. it is not easy to win in federal court.
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>> how much could they see? what is the strategy behind this including not guilty when you compare to those when we were on air a week or so ago and found out felicity huffman pled guilty. >> a number of reasons why. each one of these cases are fact specific. the parents in each case gave different amounts of money and different levels of involve messenger. maybe individual case that defendants believe they are less guilty than other defendants. some defendants and this is common in white collar cases think they did nothing wrong because the essence of white collar crime you have defendant whose think they might have done something that was on the fringes but something the government believes was have a time understanding what they are facing in federal court. >> while i have you on, i want to talk about the mueller report. we got news it's going to be released on thursday morning.
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we anticipated it was today or yesterday especially the testimony from bill barr last week. so many people are trying to speculate as to what is going to be in the mueller report. 400 plus pages. so much of it, though, especially as we heard from john brennan that was on the 11th hour last night will be redacted. how much is the big question. what your looking for when the report is released? >> primarily i'm looking for evidence of obstruction. what we knew from barr's top line notice to congress is apparently there is evidence of some kind of obstruction. remember, barr's notice said that he didn't reach the issue of whether or not a president can be indicted, but he never mentioned whether or not a president can object struck justice. an issue that barr clearly knows a lot because he authored a 19-page unsolicited memorandum on the topic. it's his opus you could argue.
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for that reason we'll be looking very closely at evidence of obstruction that could give rise to articles of impeachment, because a crime is neither a necessary nor such enground for impeachment. you don't need a crime. not all crimes are impeachable. so even if it's not a crime if it falls within. that abuse of power category that can be grounds for articles of impeachment. >> danny cevallos, thank you. new york city officials shuttered a brooklyn pre-school after it allegedly failed from provide vaccination records amid an accelerating measles outbreak. it's the first close as the city looks to stem a growing health crisis. there have been 329 confirmed cases of measles in new york city alone and more than 11,000 exposed to the virus since last october. it's on pace to be a record year for the measles as the centers for disease control and prevention reported nearly 20%
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spike in one week alone surging to 555 cases in 20 states the second highest number in the u.s. since the cdc declared the disease eliminated back in 2000. let's get a check now on your weather with meteorologist janessa webb. it's been a rough couple of days here with severe weather running across the south to the northeast and even. blustery conditions yesterday. now the winds have started to calm down and finally let's talk about some good news. look at these warm temperatures now from the plains to the midwest. we're finally above average. now we are transitioning to our next winter storm here. it's coming out of the pacific, cascades already going to see about a foot of snow this afternoon before it starts to spread into the rockies. unfortunately this is really going to gain steam here in the next 24 to 36 hours and that's why we have this big time severe weather threat for wednesday into thursday afternoon.
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now my major concern here besides the 29 million people at risk, look at where the enhanced risk is. this is the same spots we saw over the weekend with that ef-3 tornado out towards franklin, texas. it's going to sweep across that same area, unfortunately. so we're going start to see large hail, damaging winds and possible tornadoes. so just really can't seem to get a break. still ahead the latest on the first quarter fundraising for the 2020 democratic hopefuls including but adding to his war chest. we'll see who is at the top of the pack when it comes to drumming up donor support. we're back in a moment. - [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this.
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castro who has raised $1.1 million. hours after kicking off his official 2020 presidential bid mayor pete buttigieg's campaign announced it raised another $1 million. campaign spokesperson said the money was raised just four hours after pete buttigieg officially announced in comparison pete buttigieg only raised $120,000 in the 24 hours after launching his presidential exploratory committee in late january. first quarter sec filings showed he spent less than $700,000 of a million raised. a burn rate of 10% come tired to 85% of elizabeth warren. the south bend mayor last night appeared on the rachel maddow where he addressed criticism. >> i do think as democrats we sometimes have a tendency to lead with the policy minutia.
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it's important for people to know where we stand. one thing conservatives did very effectively they sort of claimed the idea space. they talked a lot about values and won a lot of the arguments or media space for their values beginning with the reagan administration in such a way that even democrats were compelled to do what i would consider largely conservative things when they took office really at any time in my lifetime. it's very important to me to make sure we wayne values argument. >> still ahead more on this morning's top story that devastating fire at the notre dame cathedral and the loss around the world. we'll go back to overseas for more on the investigation. bernie sanders pulls back the curtain with the release of his tax returns. how he's responding to questions about his finances coming up. oh! oh!
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and reaches everywhere. this is beyond wifi. this is xfi. simple, easy, awesome. welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. it's the bottom of the hour. let's start with the morning's top stories. officials in paris say the structure of notre dame cathedral has been saved and preserved as a whole following yesterday's catastrophic fire. however most of the roof has been destroyed and a spire collapsed after being engulfed in flames. authorities say they believe the fire is potentially linked to a major renovation project. the paris prosecutors has ruled out arson and terrorism and is treating it as an accident. let's go back to paris again. joining us nbc news chief correspondent richard engel.
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i was trying to think yesterday if there was anything comparable in the united states if this type of thing had happened it would be so incredibly tragic. you can't. because the history of the notre dame cathedral is so rich, it is so long and so deep. talk to us about what notre dame means to so many parisians. >> reporter: there are teams here checking out the structure of the building and see if teams can carry on the salvage operation. many of the historic and artistic treasure inside this build, because it's not just an iconic monument, a masterpiece in stone and glass and lead, it's also a treasury that holds some of the most important artifacts in this city. officials said they managed to save many of them.
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what does it mean for? what does it mean for france? the french president said it's the epicenter of the french people's lives and that's why he's pledged to rebuild it and already hundreds of millions of dollars that have been collected and hundreds of millions more will be collected. but there are really two levels, maybe three, even, to this particular monument. of course, it is the center of people's lives. it's a tourist attraction. a symbol of the city. but also a spiritual place that has significance for so many here. this, of course, during holy week just a few days before easter. >> as we were watching the images from yesterday and as that fire engulfed the cathedral, there was just a crowd surrounding it. you could hear gasps especially as that first fire fell and as the fire continued to grow. what is the feeling this morning, this afternoon, of course you're in paris from the
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people on the streets? >> reporter: there was a collective experience in this city. people experienced this fire very personally. when it first broke out there was a sense of shock and then the government made this announcement, a very dramatic announcement that paris might be forever different, that there might be no way to save notre dame cathedral from the flames. people came out. they were in shock. they were crying. they were singing hymns to protect this building and find some solidarity. this morning people coming out still disappointed still with a feeling of grief but when they can see the structure is still here there is a sense that not all is destroyed and hope they can rebuild. after previously releasing only one year of tax returns during his 2016 campaign vermont senators bernie sanders disclosed ten years of filings yesterday. his earnings show a sharp
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incline following his first presidential bid and a book dale deal. the joint filings show the two raked in $1 million in 2016 and. 2017. in 2018 the company had an adjusted grows income of over $561,000 and gave more than $18,000 to charity. the federal taxes tallied up to $145,840 for an effective federal tax rate of 26%. sanders financial disclosures proved to be a hot topic at his town hall on fox news. here was the senator's response last night. >> i'm a millionaire. this year we had $560 income. that's a lot of money. enough money in my case. in my wife's case came from a book i wrote.
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we made money. so if anyone thinks that i should apologize for writing a best selling book i'm sorry i'm not going to do it. i guess the president watches your network a little bit, right? hey president trump, my wife and i just released ten years. please do the same. >> so senator sanders had some contentious moments though with the moderators of his fox town hall where it touched on issues like foreign affairs. >> from a foreign policy perspective which country is the biggest threat to the u.s.? >> i don't know that i -- look, i don't like using the word threat because oh, my god we have to spend zillions more. i'll give you and example. clearly we're concerned about china. we're concerned about russia. here's the irony. you have people who say we need to spend even more than $700
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billion, more than the ten next nation on the military. because china is a real potential enemy. these are the same people investing billion of dollars building the chinese economic. i find that iron jig. >> president trump has a primary challenger. yesterday former two term massachusetts goff william weld announced he'll enter the rays for the 2020 republican nomination. he's the first republican a bid to deny trump a second term but not the first time they faced each other on the national stage. weld ran for vice president on the libertarian ticket. weld said he'll run a national campaign but focusing his early effort on new hampshire. today we need bill welt more than ever because america deserves better. >> he was a war hero because he was captured.
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i like people that weren't captured. i don't remember what i said. mexico will pay for the wall. also had people that were very fine people on both sides. i love wikileaks. i know nothing about wikileaks. >> america has a choice. new hampshire 2019. a better america starts here. >> weld's candidate psychocause trouble for trump as incumbent presidents face a serious primary challenge tend to lose the general election and former governor weld will have more coming up on "morning joe". joining me again from washington is daniel lipman co-author of the political playbook. talk to me about the political uphill battle weld faces taking on the president. >> he's like a is a csacrificia
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here. a lot of republicans are not excited about weld. he can go down in. history saying he tried to stop president trump and if trump wins a second term, and know knows what happens after, then bill weld can have the satisfaction of at least getting a nice college try of stopping trump. >> more a show of force versus having a legitimate -- >> i will buy the whole production team at "morning joe" first look dinner at a nice restaurant in new york if bill weld's even win as single state. there you have it. >> maybe you should just get your credit card ready. just saying. because i know everybody is googling best restaurant in new york city. let's talk about these tax
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returns from bernie sanders. it's showing, in fact, that he's part of the 1% which he has certainly harped on in the past. does this potentially hurt his message going forward or has he really owned this transition in his life? >> i think this is like a two day story at most. the biggest pressure was questions about why he was not releasing his returns in the first place, which had been kind of dog him for the last couple of years. and also he has -- he definitely has a taste for the high life. ash few weeks ago i reported how the clinton campaign paid for private jets when he was a surrogate on the 2016 campaign. he used those private jets a number of other times when he was campaigning even when there was no serious election coming down the pike. and so i think that people will still define bernie sanders as someone who is trying to fight
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for the people like elizabeth warren. the issue is does he have "the right stuff" that is going to energize a lot of voters or people in the democratic party go to mayor pete or joe biden. >> i'll see you on november 10th, 2020, 8:00 p.m. >> i didn't realize how long the production team was. >> it's getting big. still ahead, everybody new troubles facing another member of the trump administration. plus more on that devastating fire at notre dame cathedral and what damage to the iconic site might mean for the future of its rich history. we'll be right back.
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it's at the very heart of our lives. with pride i tell you tonight that we will rebuild this cathedral all together, and it is part of the fate, the destiny of france and our common project over the coming years. >> the french president there talking about the gravity of what took place yesterday, the history of course of the notre dame cathedral. welcome back. we're turning back to the moaning's top story and that catastrophic fire at notre dame. joining me from baltimore, associate prove of medieval history at johns hopkins. take us through a brief history of what this cathedral as weathered in the past and are there any historical parallels that you can recall here from what we saw yesterday? >> sure. notre dame has really spanned the test of time over 850 years, you know, built in the middle of the 12th century. you know, it witnessed and was a
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witness to things like plague and the religious wars that divided france. the building suffered at that time during the period of the huegenots and 16th century and french revolution. revolutionaries took parts of the cathedral down, hacked off the images of kings. the building was then repaired. it survived through the two world wars. there are parallels. france has a number of stunning gothic cathedrals built in this way many of which suffered during the first and second world war, the cathedrals in brussels and they were rebuilt. what the president of france has said about rebuilding, that is the french way. >> you know, we've heard from the french president emanuel macron that notre dame will be
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rebuilt. it will take some time and it will be rebuilt. the french people will see that cathedral standing tall once again in its beauty. but it's not going to be the same even if it is rebuilt considering the history involved here. talk us through that. >> that's exactly right. the french do have a long history of rebuilding their patrimony in splendid ways. what happened yesterday was an incredible amount of loss of human effort and care. to construct a monument like that, all of which was done by hand. it's a fabrication of a building, of a work of art, of the stain glass, the carving, the decoration on the inside that, again, was all done by different individuals over decades, centuries, really.
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and it's that, that care, again, that labor that is really going to be lost. we don't have the same techniques. we cannot replicate what has been there and has been standing for these last many centuries. >> all right. thank you so much. appreciate you taking us through a brief history on that. it's just more than incredible day to see something like that up in flames but certainly good to know that the structure is still standing and will be rebuilt in the future. thank you so much. let's get a check now on your weather. i heard that you were kind of a big time runner. >> i am. >> okay. can you imagine -- >> i don't know big time. >> a marathon maybe? >> your talking about the boston marath marathon. identify done the boston marathon. >> these people were braving the elements, the rain, wind, ponding on roadways and then running 26.2 miles. >> when i ran the boston
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marchtion it was sunny and beautiful but i thought a lot of runners imagining what it felt like to be in the wind and cold. not a fun day for them. >> just the weather really, that severe weather acting up and making its way. you can see the runners, congratulations to them all. that system is making its way out. the low pushing offshore. all wind advisories have now expired and that's good news here for the northeast. unfortunately, we need to transition to our next storm system and this one is rather big here and going to cause severe weather in this same exact locations that we saw about four days ago. so this front really makes its way across the rockies into the south by tomorrow afternoon. 28 million under that enhanced slight risk of severe weather. >> thank you. still ahead, everybody, president trump's newly minuted interior secretary is facing a formal probe or ethics issues.
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welcome back, everybody. joining us from washington with a look at axios am co-founder and ceo of axios jim vandehei. talk to us about axios' "1 big thing" today. >> we're looking at how overrated money is in presidential politics. obviously it keeps you alive early on but it's not a great indicator of who is going to have success. ask jeb bush, hillary clinton. a big reason for that is social media. you can get so much coverage for free. i would contend trump might have been able to win the presidency spending 10% of what hillary did because he got so much prekfree coverage on cable tv. so it's sort of that echo of free coverage that probably matters a lot more than money.
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>> so if these fund-raising totals are overrated, as you are finding, why the push by so many of these candidates and putting it out there how much money they're raising? >> at this point in q1 it's the only indicator you have of whether or not somebody has traction. and it does take money to stay alive early on, particularly in a crowded field. i'd pay more attention to how well these candidates do in being orthen particulauthentic connect on social media. people aren't that persuaded by tv ads anymore. you're much more likely to make up your mind based on your social interactions, a lot of which happens on instagram, facebook and twitter. >> and for the younger voters? even for old are voer voters?
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>> definitely young are voters and older voters. donald trump is spending about half of his money targeting voters over the age of 60 or 65 on facebook and often using ads or language that is sort of nativist and talking about immigration. they think that's how you move voters. they used to think do ads on local tv. yeah, that can be useful, but it's equally important to utilize facebook where you also have a lot of older voters, a lot of grandparents that are on facebook that are trying to keep up with what's happening with their family but also in the world and that's how they're getting a lot of their news. we tend to take a very conventional approach to looking at these elections, what's happening on tv, how much money are the people raising where all the action is on social media. i don't care what age you are,
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you're spending more and more time on facebook, often on twitter, often on instagram. >> all right, jim vandehei, thank you. and to all of our viewers out there, you, too, can sign up for the newsletter at signup.actionio.com. that does it for me on this tuesday this morning. "morning joe" starts right now. >> this audience has a lot of democrats in it. it has republicans, independents, democratic socialists, conservatives. i want to ask the audience a question if you could raise your hand here. a show of hands of how many people get their insurance from work, private insurance right now. how many get it from private insurance. of those how many are willing to transition to what the senator says, a government-run system? >> he's got the name i.d., he's got the money and judging from
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his town hall on fox news last night, he's got the support for his key policy prescriptions. bernie sanders is arguably the democratic front-runner for president. good morning. welcome to "morning joe," it is tuesday, april 16th. along with joe, willie and me, we have mike barnicle, columnist for "the washington post" david ignatius, washington anchor for bbc world news america katty kay and historian, author of "the soul of america" and rogers professor of the presidency at vanderbilt university john meacham, an nbc news and msnbc contributor. we'll start with the latest on the catastrophic fire at notre dame. officials say the
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