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special counsel is sinking in. the mueller report details behavior unacceptable by any american, let alone the president. fact, donald trump and his people endorsed russia's successful effort to attack and subvert the 2016 presidential election. they did so according to mueller because they expected the campaign would benefit from information stolen and released through russian efforts. as nbc news points out, the report tells a story of how the russians and the trump campaign pursued a relationship of mutual benefit during the election campaign and afterwards. mueller writes a month before the release of the hacked democratic e-mails, trump campaign officials were given a heads up that wikileaks would release informs damaging to clinton. they showed interest in wikileaks's release of documents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate clinton. when the e-mails were released,

aides reacted enthusiasm and some said trump privately sought information about future wikileaks releases. most damning is that by late summer of 2016, the trump campaign was planning a strategy and communication campaign and messaging based on the possible release of clinton e-mails by wikileaks. in a "new york times" op ed, ryan goodman writes the special counsel hits a national security nightmare and writes that the public mueller report alone provides enough evidence to worry that americans's own interest may not be guiding american foreign policy. ryan goodman is a former special counsel with the editor of the blog. maya wylie, a former federal prosecutor and senior vits president for social justice at the news school. ken delainian is an intelligence reporter for our own nbc news.

ryan, give me a sense of the threat posed by this playing ball by the trump people with the russians in the 2016 campaign. >> so i think the big threat here is that indeed this was a damning indictment of a certain sort with a lower case i. many members of the trump campaign were either knowingly working with the russians to try to upset the election or they were doing it unwittingly and manipulated by the russians in which u.s. national security interests and the democratic process took a back seat. that's written throughout the pages of volume one of the mueller report. that's the most worrisome issue for our own national security. >> what are do you make of mueller pulling back and playing ball means you do this, i do that. it seems to be a tacet relationship. why did they pull back from even a tacet arrangement and the

trumps and the russians. >> part of it might be that certain individuals might have been acting on their own. that's unclear. paul manafort is one example in which he does amazing things in terms of his consorting with russian spies. but at the end of the day, it seems as though they can't pinpoint that paul manafort is acting with the behest of trump. they were they were trying to separate it out. each tacet agreements can be conspiracy under criminal law. this idea of collusion which they didn't actually analyze all of that here. that's what is probably in another report where they put together all of that information for counter intelligence analysis. there is enough here that we can see what it looks like. it shows many instance of what i say goes under the heading of

collusion. >> high crimes. it seems if you work with a country that is attacking our democratic process, that's a high crime. >> that's going to be the reaction of many americans. with this report shows, it's up to 140 contacts between trump associates and russians during the campaign. they welcome in the report and they said they swamped the trump transition with offers and plans. they wanted to lift sanctions. the back channel meeting which we knew about and this report lays it out. what comes out of that meeting with the head of the russians, the two-page reconciliation that goes to jared kushner and what does kushner do with it? hands it to rex tillerson. you can argue that the only reason it didn't go through is this is a scandal the media pushed back.

russia played ball with the trump campaign and the transition and trump administration looked ready to play ball. >> give the wink they wanted. i do have a big question for you. i'm not interested in the law, but history and parallel here. benedict arnold gave the way to bring down west point. it seems to me that manafort was telling the russians at the cigar bar which states they needed to win, the ones who were closely contested. here's how you could intervene. excuse me, why are we giving information to the enemy about what they are doing to destroy our election. how is that different than benedict arnold? >> i can't answer that other than to say this was an extre extremely disturbing part of not just the mueller report, but we had indications before we got the full report from news reporting. remember what's happening here.

what o leg did who is an oligarch close to putin and we have the news reports of how the kremlin uses the oligarchs and oligarchs and some of this is in the mueller report. they take meetings with putin and understand they are given directives by putin. this is one of those. manafort has a long standing business relationship with him. he says in the mueller report he sees this essentially as an opportunity to get back some of what he feels he is owed. he is passing polling data as well as giving information to kilimnik who has been affiliated with russian intelligence who he has been working with for years. at the same time that konstantin kilimnik is suggesting what manafort himself ang knowledges. a backdoor way for russia to

regain control of eastern ukraine. this is all during the campaign. i also want to flush out a few other points of contact between the trump campaign. some of them are even after the trump campaign knows from a "new york times" report if nothing else. u.s. intelligence believes that russia is trying to infiltrate the campaign. that's when donald trump comes out publicly on july 27th, after learning that fact and said russia, get us the e-mails. then for the first time the russians start trying to get hillary clinton e-mails and you have don, jr. who in august of 2016 who has been asked by the fbi to tell them of contacts with russians. he has contact with wikileaks about what russia has gotten

into and he's retweeting it and having communications about retweeting this. that's all in the mueller report. that is not reported to the fbi. there is no contact that is reported. >> i'm going back to this. it seems to me that one person knows they were coordinating with the russians. that's manafort. he was there giving them stuff. i'm sorry, maybe if you give another try at it, he may say 10 years in prison. this report is not adequately done. >> you're right. this is a criminal finding. mueller could not prove a conspiracy. there is a whole other counter intelligence that is classified that the fbi is working on. this report, muler did not cast judgment on this behavior. he didn't say this harmed national security. fbi reports make that. >> counter espionage.

now as the american public begins to grasp the implications, the president appears to be changing his tune. he has gone from claiming total exoneration to claiming the mueller report is fabricated and totally untrue. it's singular for the examination of the events and will not be dismissed as fake news. now trump is threatening to retaliate against those who brought the truth to life. it is time to bring justice to very sick and dangerous people who committed very serious crimes. perhaps even spying or treason. back to ryan. now he considers treason turning on him. state's evidence and telling truth to prosecutors and inve investigator investigators. that's treason. what he did was not. >> it's pretty amazing. in some ways it's even more consciousness of guilt.

it's a bizarre scorched earth policy that he is trying to enact against people who cooperated with the fbi and the special counsel. it's nuts. if anything was treasonous, it's what mueller identifies. they said that the june 9th meeting was unpatriotic. that's one data point compared to a bunch of others in the guide of what happened in 2016 which is the mueller report. >> the report suggested there may be more prosecutions connected to the investigation and the redacted index or appendix d shows the two investigations remain ongoing. they issued 12 jurisdictions in addition to the cases that have been identified in public reporting. ken, give us a sense of what's going to be the results of what's coming now with these

referrals. >> we have no idea what they are. we know that the new york attorney general is looking at the trump foundation. the southern district of new york is looking at that campaign finance issue where trump was implicated in a felony. some people close to the president think that's more dangerous criminally. if they root around in trump's finances. then you have congress. adam schiff, chairman of the house intelligence committee is not satisfied that mueller delved into trump had a financial relationship with russia. he is issuing a subpoena to deutsch bank about the loans made to trump. that's where these investigations are going and have a long way to go. >> what are jumped out at me and i skipped a reference to one of the redacted names. it could be roger stone. i guess it is. what about this whole thing about who was getting the heads up on wikileaks? we have been covering this story

as almost a profession for two years. this has been our occupation and we familiar with the sequences of events. roger said you will get something tasty in a couple of days. it comes out from wikileaks. they said i was just talking generally. no, you weren't. where is that going? >> you know, what happens with roger stone, we are going to know. there will be a trial. that's going to be public. i think it's interesting because what one of the things going in the mueller report is, there is a section where he's talking about the trump tower meeting with don, jr., paul manafort, jared kushner, and russian attorney close to putin. >> maybe ivanka, too. >> maybe ivanka, too. mueller said it doesn't have sufficient evidence of willfulness of the campaign violation, but immediately following the section where he is talking about that, it's

blocked out. on one hand you have michael cohen and the southern district of new york with an ongoing investigation related obviously to the payments of women through the trump organization and that will also be the subject of the new york state attorney general's investigation. at the same time this is in the context of a discussion of the trump tower meeting, not a discussion of michael cohen and not a discussion of the trump organization. maybe that's one of the dozen investigations that we don't know about that is still indicating campaign finance crimes being investigated. >> so much is going. the finger nails are going to keep growing on this body. maya wylie and ken delaney. mueller is stuck with justice department guidelines that mueller couldn't be indicted, but drew a road map, if you will, for the u.s. congress and a prominent democrat running for president is calling for impeachment. mueller describes how the

president lied repeatedly and ordered those around him to do the same. how about huckabee sanders and her fish story. one republican senator responded with a blistering statement. i am sickened. this is a republican senator. i. sickened of the dishonesty of individuals in the highest office of the land, including the president. we have much more to get to tonight. stick with us. et to tonight. stick with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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authority to protect the integrity of the administration of justice. it adds the conclusion that congress may apply the laws to the president's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principal that no person is above the law. today house judiciary chairman jerry nadler issued a subpoena for mueller's complete report and said any talk of impeachment is premature. >> i believe he did, but it's not up to me. >> the judiciary committee. >> you can open impeachment proceedings. >> we are not there. we have to now because barr misled the country, we have to hear from barr which we will on may 2nd and mueller and ask him a lot of questions and other people. >> late today the justice department dismissed the subpoena calling it premature and unarea n. a letter to the

democratic congress, they said congress will not be silent. she scheduled a conference call with her caucus to talk about the next steps. madeline dean from pennsylvania serves on the house judiciary committee and republican congressman from florida. the democrats are kick the can down the road and saying let's talk to barr. you know he is not going to tell the truth. then we talk to mueller who said in writing everything he has to say. are you just pushing it off until june and then what's the next excuse going to be? it seems to me everybody waited for two years to give a basis for an process and now nothing is happening. congresswoman? >> hi, chris. thank you for having me on and happy holidays and blessed easter to you and your family.

i disagree with you. we are not kicking the can down the road. you have seen the subpoenas and the press releases. our committee issued a subpoena for the entire mueller report unredacted with all of the underlying documents. i disagree wholeheartedly. we believe that the judiciary has a right to see the entire report and congress has a right to see the entire report and most importantly, america has a right to the full transparent truth of what took place with the russian interference in our 2016 election and any coordination with the trump administration and the trump campaign and much more importantly, volume two of the mueller report, obstruction of justice. we are far from kicking the can down the road. we aare digging in and doing th work. >> why is steny hoyer saying it's not worthwhile and nancy pelosi saying it's not right

right now. it wouldn't be good for reelections and not what's good for the republic. they are being political and speak in political terms. >> i think this transcends politics whatsoever. we need to make sure we need to get the full facts and evidence in front of us, that means a transparency of this report and investigation. let's remember what mueller investigated. he investigated corrupt conspiracy, criminal conspiracy to work with the russians to interfere with our election. we know the russians interfered with the 2016 election in sweeping and substantive ways according to mueller. the second piece of it is he showed over and over again the attempts of obstruction of justi justice. what i would say is we have a job to do, get the facts, get the evidence, show the american people the truth and then impeachment will be revealed to us one way or another. >> do you think it's possible

and i don't want to badger, but do you think it's possible that the democratic caucus after fighting so hard to win control of the house, so hard to get subpoena power and the ability to begin such procedures, if the congress led by the democrats in the house does not act on impeachment, will it go down in history as a good decision? potentially be a decision to not begin impeachment at all. could it possibly be the right historic move? >> i think you are too far down the road. i think what goes down in history is the people spoke in the last election and said we need a sweeping change in congress and a congress that will exercise the oversight role against an administration out of control. shamefully out of control. whether criminally out of control is yet to be seen. it is shamefully and morally out of control. that will go down in history and

the rest will be born out. >> stay there, congresswoman. late today, democratic candidate elizabeth warren had a different response and called on congress now to start impeachment in a si series of tweets. david, she's for going now and passing a resolution and doing it. >> i agree with senator warren. a lot of voters think that the house democrats and particularly speaker pelosi are moving the goal post. the president of the united states when he was named in criminal conspiracy in sdny, she said let's wait until the mueller report and now we need an un redacted one. we have a 400 page report and the house needs only one hearing. bob mueller, kt mcfarland and ask them one question. is the information in the

mueller report a true reflection of the facts. if they say yes, call for impeachment. donald trump is president of the united states and tried to kill the special counsel's investigation into his own actions and his campaign and then instructed staff to lie about his obstruction. we don't need more hearings. the enough to call for a vote. >> i'm going to be honest. i think it's easier for you to say that because you are not representing constituents of 600,000 people and the congresswoman is. there is a lot of hesitancy because of what happened to bill clinton in 1998. he was impeach and it didn't do anything. how much does that guide your thinking and judgment now? what happened back in 1998? >> i love what representative is saying, but i believe we have to do our homework. if you jump and say you want a redacted report that no one has

fully read. we had a chance to dig in and it's an extremely disturbing read, but if you say we have impeachment here, that would be fool hearty. we have to reveal the narrative, the truth to the american public and then we have the right to go forward with impeachment. look at what we are looking at. it's a redacted report with troubling information about obstruction of justice by this president. asking don began to fire the special counsel and you have attorney general who said the president fully cooperated. he layered on top of that to mcgahn, you won't fire him and the media picked up that i asked you to fire him. would you go to the media and tell them i never asked to you do that. they are treacherous and wrong. we all know that. they are a moral failing. we have the burden to do it and it's a responsibility.

i don't think it's a problem. it's a responsibility to get the facts and the evidence and lay it out for the american people and we will see if impeachment is on the table. we will need the public behind us. we will need the senate to take up the articles of impeachment. we will need 67 votes. >> my problem and you can give last thought, but the president said 37 times, he can't remember. he was useless as a witness. his people lied like you can't believe. liar, liar, pants on fire. now the justice department as of tonight said i am not going to give you the full un redacted version to keep the truth and if the democrats have to wait for the truth on this information, hell will have to freeze over. they will not give the means to bring them down. you have to make it available. >> there is a clear case of obstruction available. here's what democrats risk. what they risk is coming down on the side of bill barr.

consider this. bob mueller said here is information i have about obstruction and bill barr said it's not enough to convict. if democrats suggest we don't have enough information and they give it a pass, you are giving bill clinton a more damning legacy than donald trump and democrats will regret that. >> chris? >> no time to go. >> i have to say i have spoken to my colleagues and no one believes in the credibility of attorney general barr. no one. he poured it away in buckets over the last several weeks. >> well said. madeline dean of pennsylvania and david jolly. the mueller report sheds new light on how russian trolls were able to influence millions of americans and they got through not the truth. he didn't attempt to get through. they got through. what is being done to keep at it? the russians are at it again. back after this. are at it again back after this.

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my people came to me, dan coates came to me and some others, they said they think it's russia. i have president putin, he just said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't see any

reason why it would be. i have great confidence in my intelligence people, but i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. >> so william barr flags for the president and the president flags for russia. that was president trump last summer denying russian interference in the 2016 election. as the "new york times" points out, the mueller report definitively states trump was elected with the help of a foreign power. the report details the extensive social media operation that reaches tens of millions of americans and describes wikileaks's role in russia's campaign that resulted in continuous negative headlines for hillary clinton. i am joined by christopher painter and frank is the former assistant director for the county intelligence at the fbi. chris, you start.

we are looking ahead now. what stops the russians from doing what they did? >> absolutely nothing. we are doing good things, but that report is systematic and significant and sweeping effor s s by the russians and they are doing it again. they are out there. that report is not raft. that's what we are living now and in 2020 and we haven't done enough to prevent it and imposed real cost on putin to change behavior. >> frank, what do you make of this? you must think of this in bed at night. we got a report that they were messing with a florida county election system and not changing results. we need another florida disaster like 2000 to kill all hope for a clean election. >> if there is one inarguable section that even the attorney general could not avoid it's that russia absolutely interfered with our election. people need to understand,

chris. this is a nonpartisan issue. it doesn't matter what party you are a part of. you need to understand that we have enemies in this world and russia wants very much to sow discord and chaos regardless of the party. people need to understand this. their goal is not just getting a candidate into office, but rather to get us into chaos and not trusting our institutions and electoral process. if we lose our ability to vote honestly and accurately, we have lost democracy. imagine you go to the usual polling place you have been going to for 20 years and they look you up in the roster and they tell you chris, you are not here. you don't exist anymore here or chris, your polling place changed on the other side of the city tonight. now we have chaos in certain key swing states and precincts.

>> they know it's pennsylvania, wisconsin, minnesota michigan. they claimed they had no actual evidence in calling russian interference a myth. bill barr is working for the russians, too. he said attempted efforts. he never said in his report or preview yesterday that the russians did it. >> if you read the mueller report, it is clear. it's a compelling narrative. the russians won. they manipulated our system in a way no one else has been able to in the past. that should be a five-alarm fire warning for the future. they should have a coordinator in the white house and doing everything we can to protect the ballots and have been doing good stuff. >> is this a bipartisan effort to keep it from happening again? >> it should be. there are good people in dhs,

department of homeland security. that's all good. they need to do a lot more. the one thing they need to do and this starts at the top, the president has to call out. he has to condemn this. responding to this report with a "game of thrones" tweet -- >> you know why he won't do that and pretty much why barr won't say he did it. because it suggests somehow he got help during the election. >> here's the dilemma. exactly. if the president said i will believe a portion of this report and we have to take action, he runs the risk of delegitimizes his presidency because the russians helped him win. we won't hear word one. we haven't heard from the attorney general, the chief law enforcement officer in the country. haven't heard from him on this. >> notice his preview when he grabbed the country's attention.

he never said anything about the report saying the russians interfered in our election. he never said it. >> that was left out. that's right. we need to have a martial plan to go after this and do everything we can. even if you have good people in the government doing good things, and they are, if you don't have that leadership at the top, that under cuts it. if i'm putin and the president is not calling me out, i will do it again. i created a norm that that's okay. >> i have to ask you a question. you have been doing great work. why did rod rosenstein go along with this whole thing? he looked nervous and uncomfortable behind barr. he's a public servant. why is he doing this? >> you are asking one of the great questions of this inquiry and the and why he didn't recuse himself and he justified the fires of jim comey and he stands behind the attorney general

looking like a deer in the headlights. i think he was a fact witness and should have been interview bide robert mueller and perhaps he's one of the people congress will call to testify to get more detail out of him. this is a flawed system and he should not have been involved in this decision. >> i say this because bill bar used him. he put him up for his credibility and helps his own credibility. i don't think it worked. he is looking troubled with his reputation as we learned in this city and this life, you get one reputation. just one. thank you for everything you have done. up next, house of lies. the mueller report shines a spotlight on a white house that can't handle the truth and can't deliver it. a quick programming note. join me tomorrow night from 6:00 to 8:00 for a special look from the experts. i want all the buffs to watch to understand this thing. we will look at the contents of the mueller report and most

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♪ help! you know i need someone welcome back to "hardball." one of the bombshells revealed in yesterday's report by robert mueller was that sarah sanders admitted, admitted to the special counsel that she made up public statements about the firing of former fbi director comey, telling the special counsel those statements were not founded on, i love this word, anything. she said based on nothing. let's take a look at what sand ares said back in 2017 and what she is saying today about the inconsistencies. >> i heard from countless members of the fbi that are grateful and thankful for the president's decision and i think that we may have to agree to disagree. we are not going to get into a numbers game. i have heard from a large number

of individuals that work at the fbi that said they are happy with the president's decision. >> why can't you acknowledge that what you said then was not true. >> i said the word i used countless and if you look at what's in quotations for me, it's that and that it was in the heat of the moment, meaning it wasn't a scripted talking point. i'm sorry that i was not the robot like the democrat party. >> that's a cover for not telling the truth. white house reporter at the associated press and michael is nbc news presidential historian. jill, it seems to me that they have a problem and it worked, whatever murkiness there is today and whatever fog machine is the work of the lies and the president's claim he couldn't remember 37 times which is in effect, lying. >> that's part of why you see the white house as confident as they are despite everything that is so damning in that report. all of the instances of lying of

the president seemingly not caring and instructing people to come out and hold news conferences to lie to say accurate reports are inaccurate. this is a pattern that we have seen and we know this white house and this president has done so many times. as a reporter who sits in the briefings, it was pretty s stunning to see the dishonesty, but not like we trusted what she said from the podium anyway. you going to believe me or your lying eyes? same thought. how can you walk into truth and lie like the president? he likes when you can see him lying. >> he lies even when he doesn't feel he needs to. it's almost pathological and spreads to everyone around him. many of those around him as we have seen in the mueller report. what mitt romney said was right. the lying is sickening. it's so much against the history of the presidency. honesty was at the center of the

personas of george washington and abraham lincoln and the president who served jimmy carter who said i will never lie to you, that was a promise he kept. gerald ford said after he was swoerp in after richard nixon in 1974, he was trying to draw a contrast with nixon, especially his lying and ford said i believe the truth is the glue that holds government together. he was absolutely right. how can a president ask the public to make sacrifices or go to war if americans can't believe him? >> he would be a great guy to sell your old beat up car to. >> who are has seen a car like this? no one. >> according to the mueller report, a major reason the president was not able to gain control is his orders were refused by various subordinates and his efforts were mostly unsuccessful largely because the person who is surrounded the

president declined to carry out orders or exceed to his request. that includes dan coates, rosenstein, don mcgahn. he is out there trashing mcgahn now, firing his law firm because he was the one guy that said i'm not going to cover up. you try to get me to fire comey. >> this is one of the most test dynamics at play. he is seething right now, feeing like people who worked for him were disloyal because they spoke to mueller's team when the president and the white house asked them to speak to mueller's team and they said tell the truth and tell them everything you know. the president none the less as we saw from his tweets and his private conversations is furious, especially at mcgahn for spending so much time talking to prosecutors. the irony is that it's those people especially mcgahn who talked trump out of doing things that could have gotten him in

more trouble for obstruction. >> my sense when i watch these people like barr talk on television, they are in closed circuit. remember that phrase, closed circuit and there is only one person watching in the other room. they are not addressing truth. they are saying what trump wants them to say, which is not true. they want him to -- he wants them to cover for him ave time y speak publicly. >> barr and others know that's the only way to keep their job. from trump's point of view if he were a leader of inequality and say there is a shocking revelation here which is these people who did not tell me what i wanted to hear and restrained me from doing bad things, they saved me. i might be in a lot more trouble if i didn't have them working for me. compare his staff nowadays. he has few if any of those people. the result is what may happen is having gotten through the mueller report and he may think

that this is a great victory if he does think that, i think he's wrong. he may feel licensed and even more emboldened to get rid of people who might conceivably tell them not to do something he wants to do. >> when you call people and talk to people from the booth and whatever from the white house, do you calibrate this person is good for about 70% of the truth and this person is good for about 90% and this person is good for about 10. >> it's gotten better than at the beginning when toxic environment where there were different factions and in order to get something i feel comfortable printing, you have to speak to someone from this faction and this other faction and then maybe, hopefully that was the best truth you were going to get that day. it's really difficult when people just like the sarah example, all of the other people here are being ordered by the president to lie to reporters as

a president. even on background. this is all fake news. >> must be an interesting job. thank you, jill from the great associated press. we rely on that more than we admit. i admit it. michael, a great historian and great to have as a colleague. some call it as a witch hunt, but what if hillary clinton had been the one who committed the horrors in the mueller report. those of you loving your high fives. if everything trump did, hillary did, where would she be right now. back in a minute. be right now. back in a minute

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it comes to the investigation into this president? do you really believe attorney general barr read a nearly 400-page report in one day? and that his 4-page summary is the whole truth? i'm tom steyer, and i'm organizing an effort to to release the full mueller report now and let the american people decide. if you think we have a right to read the report for ourselves, you can call the attorney general at this number. our tax dollars paid for the report. don't let him cover up the truth. bleech! aww! awww! ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft for the win win. up. up. down. down.

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a word tonight to those trump fans out there high fiving each other. say what you want about this two-year investigation being a witch hunt. you can enjoy your night. give those who supported the investigation this and only this. if hillary clinton won the 2016 election and come out afterwards that the russians had done the same things to help her, the pushing of anti-trump messaging on social media and hacking into the e-mails and it came out that the hillary people made use of that russian help and had meeting to get more. if hillary fired the republican fbi director because he was looking into all this and got out that she was asking the

white house lawyer or campaign manager out of his job because he was not protecting her. if these horrors came out, would you not demand her removal from the oval office. you can go back to your partying now, but let's not hear any more of this being a witch hunt. happy passover and happy easter. all in with chris hayes starts right now. >> tonight on all in. >> the congress of the united states will honor its oath of office to protect and defend the constitution of the united states. >> what the attorney general said mueller wanted -- >> special counsel mueller did not indicate his purpose was to leave the decision to congress. >> versus what the special counsel really said. >> i think that mueller on at least obstruction of justice wanted congress to examine the evidence. >> there is a clear road map for congress, but what are they going