but it is 4:00 in poway, california, just outside san diego, where a gunman opened fire in a synagogue earlier today. four people shot, one of them later dying. the city's mayor has declared the attack a hate crime. authorities say they have a suspect in custody and he is being questioned. sources familiar with the investigation tell nbc news the shooter is 19 year old john earnest, a resident of san diego. the president tweeted a thank you to the border patrol agent who stopped the shooter. his talents for law enforcement were not, mayor of poway steve vaus. >> this is not poway. the poway i know comes together as we did just a few weeks ago in an interfaith event.

we always walk with our arms around each other, and we will walk through this tragedy with our arms around each other. we have a deep appreciation for those who showed courage at the chabad, the deep appreciation for the law enforcement agencies that responded so quickly. we will get through this. our thoughts and prayers will be with the families and those who are investigating. poway will stay strong. and we will always be a community that cares for one another. >> steve vaus there. absolutely taking this personally, as he should, as he felt he was the leader of all religious communities there in poway. how did this happen today? for more on that and the time line of the tragedy that just happened within the last five hours, molly hunter with more. >> reporter: on the last day of

passover, blood shed in the middle of shabbat services. >> going to have a few victims from gunshot wounds. >> reporter: chabad poway near san diego was packed when a 19-year-old white male shooter entered with an ar-style rifle and opened fire at 11:23 a.m. authorities say he killed an older woman and injured at least three others a young girl and two men, including the rabbi. according to eyewitnesses the rabbi kept speaking. >> i want you to know, this is not poway. the poway i know comes together. >> reporter: according to the mayor, the congregation fought back. >> we are grateful to those in the congregation that engaged the shooter and prevented this from being a much more horrific incident. >> my deepest sympathies go to the people that were affected, the families. looks like a hate crime. hard to believe. >> reporter: the shooter was detained just down the road with

a rifle on his seat. >> he clearly saw the suspect in his vehicle. the suspect jumped out of the car with his hands up. >> that was nbc's molly hunter with what happened, the time line this morning that made it very difficult for poway, california. by the way, the governor of california reacting now. gavin newsom saying this in a tweet. charleston, pittsburgh, quebec, new zealand, now our own poway, california. no one should ever fear going to their place of worship. hate continues to fuel horrific and cowardly affects violence across our state, country, and world. it must be called out. california stands with poway. somebody who has stand there in poway all afternoon is knsd affiliate reporter ramon galindo.

i believe we have ramon galindo on the ground. ramon, can you hear me? >> reporter: yes. i am here. we are still out here outside of the chabad community center here in poway. we're hoping to get another briefing from law enforcement, but as the reporter in the earlier package mentioned, four people shot, one of them fatally. unfortunately a woman did die. three other people being treated right now at the hospital, two men and an underaged girl. the suspect, a 19-year-old man taken into custody already. multiple law enforcement sources have confirmed to us that the suspect is 19-year-old josh. the earnest. the synagogue was packed with

people. he sped off after the shooting. an off-duty border patrol agent tried to shoot at him but didn't hit him. the suspect was arrested a few miles away from the synagogue. police don't think that there are any other suspects at large right now. but the suspect, 1-year-old john earnest apparently left back a manifesto. in that manifesto he mentioned that the suspect's responsible for the new zealand and pittsburgh mosque shootings were his inspiration. still early on in the investigation, don't know much more about the suspect except that he was a resident of san diego. not sure exactly what his connection to this synagogue is. but the mayor of poway said that they are investigating this as a hate crime. the fbi is here.

they won't confirm if this is a hate crime, but the poway mayor made it seem like the shooter went in and said something that indicated that he targeted the synagogue specifically because of their jewish faith. >> ramon, when you and i spoke 30 minutes ago, you were saying that inside -- we have pictures here of the chabad of poway synagogue on the left side. there were still parishioners inside that were being questioned by investigators. as you have been watching the scene, are more leaving, and are more investigative law enforcement arriving as well? >> reporter: in the last few minutes, you're looking at a live picture. we see another unmarked police vehicle coming up and showing up at the scene. we have seen many more sheriff's department vehicles, fire department vehicles come on here for the investigation as you

mentioned. it is our that understanding there are dozens, possibly up to 100 people still inside synagogue. >> up to 100? >> reporter: yes. that was from the briefing just a short time ago. a lot of people still inside answering questions as investigators collect all the evidence. there were some worshippers who were able to get out who did speak to earlier and just described the scene of commotion. most of them told us that one of the people who was wounded was the rabbi, that he was shot in the hand, gave a very gruesome account of his injuries. but it does appear like he is being treated at the hospital and that his injury is not life threatening. >> as a member, as a reporter of our affiliate there on the ground for nbc news, you and your team there are following not only the crime scene, you're also following those who are injured and those being treated at palomar medical center.

this is this as we hear the three patients there in stable condition. any other information around the injured at this moment? >> reporter: the law enforcement was able to confirm to us that two of those people who were injured in this shooting are adult men. one is a juvenile girl, and then, of course, we do have that fatality who was a woman. they described her as an elderly woman. we don't have her identification just quite yet. they're trying to reach their loved ones. but that is what we were able to confirm from law enforcement. again, what witnesses told me was just described as a gruesome scene of the rabbi just having an injury to his hand. this man walked in with an ar-style rifle, you would imagine the injuries are pretty severe, but at the same time it does appear that the three survivors's are being treated

and their life is not in danger at this time. >> ramon, thank you so much. i know you're still working hard on the scene. there is a briefing expected in the next hour or two, is that right? >> reporter: that's right. they should they should be back within another hour or so. we'll bring you any details as soon as we get them. >> thank you so much, ramon galindo from knsd, our nbc affiliate there in the san diego area. thank you so much. let's bring in michael balboni, former homeland security adviser. you were listening to ramon's reporting. up to 100 still inside. this is still a process that's moving forward. who are the law enforcement personnel that are arriving right now? what are they asking all these parishioners that are still inside? i was saying earlier for many of these parishioners, boy, how many hours is this now? probably hour number five or six

or seven for them, and they are trying to help. but it must be very difficult for them at the same time. >> given the number of people that were in the synagogue at the time of the shooting, it is an active crime scene, active from the sense that there are people coming and going, they need to make sure they have all the information. we must remember they had to build a case, even though there's over 100 eyewitnesses to the event, what they saw, when they saw it, you still have to build the case to make sure you can bring the shooter to justice and make sure the process works. that's going on right now. one of the things that the reporter said, there's a manifesto referencing other types of attacks in new zealand and in pittsburgh. that raises the specter of the soft targets. when you see the overlay of the hate crimes and then -- i think we're seeing the weaponization of social media. this is a manifestation of that.

there are 7.6 billion cell phones on the globe. that is an incredible platform for the receipt of good information and bad information. and so i think that as our society continues to wrestle with this incredibly rapid adoption of technology and the ability to spread any type of messaging, including hate, so quickly, unfortunately that combined with the soft targets is going to make it very, very challenging for law enforcement and communities to be able to provide a level of protection in all cases at all times. >> malcolm nance is still with us, the executive director of the terror asymmetrics project. reflecten what michael was saying as well as what the report, ramon, galindo was telling us. >> we're building over the last five hours quite a profile, although it is very preliminary about the shooter. we know that he's 19 years old,

he's a white male. he comes from san diego or he was studying in san diego as a student. for the most part, that's what we know about him. his behaviors today as carrying out this attack, going in specifically to a jewish synagogue or chabad, an orthodox synagogue during the passover feast with the intent to kill gives us the impression that he is most likely inspired by a white supremacist ideology. there are some manifestos which are out there that are being reported, and simply because we got the indication from the mayor of poway that this was being seen as a hate crime, that tells us that this was personally inspired by that ideology, and the president himself referenced it as a hate crime. all of this told, we're likely to hear more about his social media profile. it will probably look very

similar. not just to the one in new zealand, which was very specific, which is now presenting itself to us as sort of this template that all these shooters use where they identify themselves, they call themselves, you know, fighters or crusaders for the white race, and they rail against white genocide. what's interesting, really interesting, is that they carry these attacks out now against both mosques and synagogues, which means they don't care about any other religious confession other than their own, and, of course, the pathology that exists in their minds that forces them to go and shoot innocent people. >> talk about his age. 19 years old here and how that fits into the context of most suspects in this space.

>> well, you know, most of the men we've seen that are shooters are relatively older. they're in their mid-20s, maybe early 30s and have been radicalized for a while. but the shooter in quebec city who shot six muslims dead in a mosque, he was also very young. he was a teenager. what we're seeing -- interestingly, the genesis of this was an ders bresk, the norwegian mass murderer who killed 70 people total in norway because he was fighting against what he thought was ra bid immigration and white genocide in norway. that has spread like wildfire amongst younger men. and we're seeing it break out on the internet exactly as we've seen the inspiration occur amongst members of isis and al

qaeda. the internet now a weaponized propagation tool for people who want to air their grievances and take part in a global ideological movement with violence. >> as we see the typical age, if there were to be one, over the course of the last two decades as we've covered these mass shootings, i was thinking back to virginia tech, he was in his 20s, also a young murderer involved in a mass shooting. what does youth say about where we're moving in these sorts of tragedies when as we do younger folks involved? >> i can't say certainly with virginia tech. that was a completely different profile. that was the profile of a mass school shooter. in this case we're talking about someone who has glommed onto an

ideology, and that ideology is what pulls the trigger in his hands. but, you know, i don't want to get into pop psychology here. this is something the fbi has specialized profiling teams for. but the age of these shooters is also tied to the ease of which they have access to weapons. and, of course, you know, we often find many of these young people who have these mental defects also play games on the internet where they go around in first-person shooters. as we saw with the new zealand mass murderer, he put on a live web cam on that looked exactly like one of these online games. it has nothing to do with the games, it's just an ability for them to technically train in simulation to go out and tie these ideologies to go ahead

with their own personal mental health issues and conduct mass murder. >> malcolm, stand by. i'm going to go to andrew blankstein. hey, andrew. >> now that -- we have identified the potential suspect in the case, we have a little more. it's that the letter that was posted on social media accounts, discussed as having possible ties to the gunman is being investigated as part of this broader look into the background. now, investigators from the san diego sheriff's department as well as the federal authority, the fbi and atf are on scene. one of the things they're going to be looking at in addition to processing the scene, the crime scene, but also at the house that was tied to the gunman will be the social media profile to

try to get some background on what he was posting. is there a time line, but they're going on beyond that. they're going to talk to people who knew him, the kind of concentric circle that starts with the family and friends and what happened. a lot of times you have some kind of a trigger, even if people are posting things on social media in the direction that this investigation appears to be going towards, this whole idea of a hate crime. they're looking at the writing, but it's a little early, even with all this to ascribe motive. that's what law enforcement sources say they're going at this point. >> word on a potential open letter that he left. we heard some of the folks this

hour reflect on that and what it might mean about motive. any word on that, andrew? >> no. i think still very early stages. in addition to that digital footprint, anything to do with electronics, phone, computer, they're going to try to put that together. one of the things they're going to be looking for are people who would have known the suspect and what he might have been saying, was there any background that they should know in terms of medical history or any contacts that he had with others, either in his life online or just day to day. we're in the very early stages of that piece of it. >> andrew blank stein, thank you so much, investigating reporter with the latest on nbc news and

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continuing breaking news coverage here on msnbc. 23 minutes after the hour, it is 7:23 in new york. it is 4:23 in poway, california, where we're following the breaking news story of one individual killed in a synagogue shooting. three injured, currently in hospital as we understand at the moment. we are waiting to get the latest information. could be in the next 10 or 15 minutes as law enforcement there locally in san diego we are telling us we can expect another update and what information we

might glean from that in terms of the suspect and the status of those injured. earlier on, of course, the concern remains when we had four injured, one of those injured then passed away. so that is why we are still watching those who are at a local facility there, a local hospital and getting treatment at the moment last we heard. let's go live to brian eleven, director for the center for study of hate at cal state san bernardino, an hour and a half north of poway, california. describe as you look at the granular information and data there in poway, what poway is in terms of concern of crimes like this. >> great question. a lot of things. we're seeing with attacks involving houses of worship and there's been a string. it has been going on for years now. so that's one thing. the other thing, we're seeing attacks becoming particularly

lethal. that's another point. as i said earlier, we've been keeping federal statistics since about '91, '92. we've only had about four years where we religion hate crimes have competed 30%, and three of them are in the last three years. moreover, with regard to anti-semitic attacks, fbi bottomed out with just over 600 back in 2014, now they are close to 1,000 back in 2017. for 2018, not even out yet, anti-semitic attacks have the second highest rate of increase of any of the groups that we saw. additionally, last year we saw white nationalist killings go up from 13 to 17, and out of 22 extremist hate homicides we counted last year, half were

anti-semitic. we've never seen anything like that before. >> brian, as we look at poway, california, outside of san diego south of los angeles, in your averages, where does this part of the country sit, above or below average in terms of incidents or concerns of incidents? >> well, california has reported almost 1,100 hate crimes last year. there was an increase in anti-semitic. >> tell me, is it above or below in terms of the average national? >> san diego is above, but just by a little bit because that he do good job of reporting it. just hear me out. the global terrorism network, i asked, hey, what's changing about this stuff. he said folks are acting closer to home. people acting in their region,

we saw it in new zealand, we're seeing it here. and we're seeing it with attacks against mosques as well. >> is this happening in terms of the increase of, you said it's now 20% of hate crimes related to anti-semitism. why is that increase happening if you were to put it into a 45-second sound bite. i know it's much larger than that in terms of a concern and a phenomenon. is it because there are greater religious tensions? those who have mental disorders and are killing people, is it because that seems the easiest for them, they may not necessarily believe in the tension religiously, but they find that might be more accessible? i don't know the answer to this, obviously, but i want to get your understanding based on this is what you concentrate on. >> yeah. anti-semitic attacks are over 50% of the religion hate crimes,

but of overall crimes, they're about 11% or 12%. jews are on when you have a political landscape, jews are often the first on that train of conspiracy theories and scapegoating. fragmented society and fragmented not only along one base, but religion, political, generational, and, of course, the internet. one last thing with these kinds of ofrpfenders. they have something called progressed of the deed, where lone warriors go out, commit an act, and that's supposed to inspire others. >> brian -- >> they're posting things on social media to make a propaganda of the net. >> you said it's the first stop. why is it the first stop. >> look what we saw with respect

to the tree of life shooting. that was about the so-called caravan. so what i'm saying, there's a really interesting script. eric ward has written about this. there is a script that identifies the target for aggression. when people have an anti-institutional bent, that's what we've seen over the last 50 years, anti-institutions, not trusting the media, schools, government, what we see in those instances, convenient scapegoats are often times jews, but they're not the last ones. >> thank you so much, brian eleven. appreciate your time from cal state san bernardino. >> thank you. >> you bet. i'd like to go to nancy lev knowny, she was heading to service when the shooting occurred. thank you for joining us today. if you can, describe to us what

happened. >> well, what happened was what we saw basically from the outside. fortunately for us, it happened just a couple minutes before we arrived. when we pulled up in our car, we heard shots. we got out of the car very cautiously and we saw a man running down the street with a gun shooting at a white-colored car. i couldn't process it. i didn't know what was happening, so we went into the synagogue and people were coming outside with extremely worried looks on their face. and the rabbi came out and he was standing there with his prayer shawl wrapped in his hand. and it was very bloody. and he was very agitated. he says, when are they coming? when is the police coming? people had already called the police and the ambulance and they hadn't showed up yet. i walked inside the lobby very briefly. and i did see somebody on the floor, somebody was working on that person.

it looked to me almost like cpr or something. i had no clue who that was until i left and i found out later. and that person who i found out that they were working on has since passed away. and she was a very dear friend of ours, just a loving, wonderful person. if you were sick, she would appear at your house with a dinner, not just a dinner, it would be a dinner that lasted for three days. she could never do enough good stuff for people. she was just a wonderful person. very unlucky. and this tragedy happened. >> nancy, please do not reveal her name, but can you tell us more -- >> should i? >> no, you did not. please do not. can you tell me more about this -- she would bring over meals that would last for days, right? a friend of yours? what she meant? >> she was a very good friend of mine.

>> and where she fit into the family of all the kopeople. >> she would do kind things for people. my daughter and her family who live in new york city come out here occasional, and she adores the family. she brings my little grandchildren give away. they were just here for passover. they went home late thursday night and she said, mom, i'm coming back for the funeral. i have to come back for the funeral. i haven't even unmade her bed yet. she will be back for the funeral. that's how much we loved this girl. >> how would was she, nancy? >> i think she was about 60. >> about 60. is she married with kids? >> she's married with a daughter who is, i think, a senior or a junior in ucla, the college up in l.a.

>> wow. >> and her husband. happily married they were. >> have you spoken with the family at all yet? >> no. i've only spoken with a good friend who went up to the hospital to be with them while her family's in the emergency room trauma unit. he and his wife related to us the horrifying news. >> nancy, how angry are you? >> i'm sorry. >> how angry are you? >> i'm very angry. a lot of my angriness has to do with political things that's going on right now. i carry around a ball point pen and they think they can do what they please. no problem, goodbye. we have to do something about this in this country. absolutely.

people should not be allowed to walk around with guns with hate-filled hearts. other than that, that's really my take on this. >> i'm betting, nancy, as you have spoken with your loved ones and your friends after you arrived and then left quickly, right, that you are ex-claiming to many of them how did i get here? >> to my friends in the synagogue or my friends generally? >> all. >> not really. but i will tell you that i have had friends -- we lived in new york for many years. people have called us in the past three hours that i have not heard from in years and are just so concerned. when they heard poway, they know that's where we live. they were so concerned. how are you? are you okay?

caring, thoughtful people. what else can i say? >> we're speaking with nancy, one of the kong regants there. nancy, you described what the rabbi was doing, that he was there outside the center, outside the synagogue. >> yes. he was carrying his bloodied prayer shawl on his hand, which i had no idea at the time that it was his blood on that prayer shawl because he was apparently shot in the hand in the fingers, and he was covering the blood, and he was very irate because the police and the ambulances weren't coming, and he knew inside was somebody who was very seriously wounded. that's the way he was, which is very understandable. >> so you saw the rabbi running

outside or walking outside or he was already there? >> he walked outside. he was looking for the ambulance and the police to come. >> was this after you saw an individual shooting at a car or before? >> yes, it was, and to this moment i have no clue who that individual was. we were about 30 or 40 feet away. he was running up the street following this car that was leaving and shooting at this car. >> then the car left and then the rabbi came out? >> that was it. and i went inside to see what was happening. >> got it. >> and i didn't see anything else after that. >> i know you didn't have a stopwatch out, nancy, but if that whole part when you arrived until you walked in, how long was that just about? >> maybe three minutes. >> so very fast right? >> yeah. >> did you speak with the rabbi before you went inside? >> very briefly because he was so angry that there was nobody -- >> right.

>> that i really didn't speak with him. >> nancy -- >> but i did notice his hand wrapped up in his bloody prayer shawl. >> and as you have learned, he was shot in the hand. >> i went inside very briefly, very briefly, maybe ten seconds and my husband said, come, we're not staying. we're going home right now. >> we're getting out of here. >> that's what my husband said. he was in the israeli army 50 years ago. he said we're not staying here. if you're not coming, i'm going? so he knew. >> he's heard gunshots and he's seen more than a young boy at 17 should see. >> nancy, when you spoke with the rabbi, what was that conversation? what were the words that you said? >> i didn't really speak with him? i just said, are you all right? and he didn't really answer.

he was just focused on when is the ambulance coming. >> the rabbi -- >> i guarantee if you ask the rabbi now, do you remember them there? he will say no. >> just because of the situation. >> yeah. >> completely understandable. >> because of the drama of the hour. he wasn't concentrating on me. he was concentrating on when is the ambulance coming. >> right. how would you describe the way he looked, his urgency, nervousness, everything. >> very nervous, very irate. i had never seen him like that. really upset. >> was he out there by himself? why was he out there doing this? >> he wasn't out there by himself. a few people were outside. the steps are a shot walk from the lobby, maybe ten feet, and they're only about five or six steps that go down to the sidewalk which leads to the seat. >> you know, by your storytelling, this certainly

puts a face upon the rabbi and that he knew that -- >> i know. i mean, i recognized the rabbi. he looked like the rabbi, but i could see he was very, very upset. >> yes. if you will, as the leader of the synagogue, certainly out there making sure that his people were trying to get out of there and be okay despite being injured, still there. would that fit who he is? >> oh, absolutely. but i think everybody really stayed inside. the lobby leads to the main sanctuary. i think the people all stayed in the main sanctuary because, except for four or five people that i saw coming out, i didn't see anybody else. as i said before, this is a very, very popular day to come to the synagogue. the last day of passover is the day where they say special prayers for parents that have passed away and close family

members. so people that have had anybody who has passed away fitting that description will come to the synagogue, although they won't come most of the times during the year. so it was a day where i'm sure, because i never got into the sanctuary, was very crowded. >> are there any security measures, nancy, that are generally around the synagogue on days like this? >> i think they have, you know, cameras or something on the inside. i think they were set up once. occasionally i do remember they would have security people at the door. as i understood, this shooter never got past the lobby. so obviously a lot more people that could have been killed, thank god, were not killed. >> final question, nancy. thank you so much for speaking with us. >> you're welcome. >> what do you want to say to the suspect? >> i want to say that you should

put your head on straight and stop hating people. guns are not toys. >> nancy -- >> that's basically it. >> thank you. no, you could not be more direct or specific and passionate about what you just said. nancy, the sit tight of an unfortunate shooting today. nancy, thank you very much for your honest. we'll be right back with the breaking news right here on msnbc. for people 50 and older colat average risk.ing honey have you seen my glasses? i've always had a knack for finding things... colon cancer, to be exact. and i find it noninvasively... no need for time off or special prep. it all starts here... you collect your sample, and cologuard uses the dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers. you can always count on me to know where to look. oh, i found them! i can do this test now!

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breaking news story coming out of poway, california. this is a little bit 20 minutes north of san diego. these pictures from a little bit earlier, but we're still live on the scene. mark mullin at knsd is standing there in front of chabad of poway synagogue. mark, thanks for taking the time to speak with us. it has certainly been as you know and covered so many stories like this in the past, that it's still ongoing. we have the investigators, we have the congregants inside right behind you at the moment being interviewed. what's the latest that you're hearing? >> reporter: exactly. at last check they had, like, 100 congregants who were still

inside, all of whom are being interviewed by a multitude of different agencies. there are local agencies, the fbi, obviously, had stepped in because of the severity of this. what a dreadful day this has been. three of the four people shot are at least listed in stable condition. that's about as good as it gets, though. as you have been report, there's one confirmed fatality, an elderly woman. i think people around here, because what you guys can't see right now is bordering the synagogue it's an entire residential neighborhood and everybody is just coming here just to stare because it's something so unbelievable. picture this. last day of passover, beautiful sunny san diego day when a lot of people are out on the beaches, people dutifully are spending the last day with their families at this temple service.

and in walks in a deranged man shooting people and fatally injuring an elderly woman and a fourth person also in the hospital, and takes off down this street, it is believed, phoning into police saying he was involved in the shooting, and then a san diego police officer, because this is a community of san diego, so they responded with the call went out. the guy gets out, throws his arms up in the air and surrenders and at this point is talking with investigators. but at this point, as you have been reporting, 19-year-old john earnest is his name. he claimed to be a nursing student. they're still trying to verify that. that's the least of the things they have this to verify right up. what is getting their attention is there is a manifesto that he

published online with all sorts of hateful things in it. they're looking at the possibility of his claiming that his inspiration to do this were the new zealand shootings and also a house of worship in pittsburgh a couple of years ago. so at this point, waiting for another press conference here. we'll get more information, but at last word the suspect is in custody, one fatality, three other people listed in the hospital. >> mark, i can hear all the activity around you at the moment. can you tell us who were the folks that are behind the cameras and the locals, the neighborhood, as well as what have you seen in terms of the law enforcement vehicles that have come and gone within the last half an hour, because they're still moving, as you've been reporting. >> reporter: they're not only moving, but bear in mind, they were able to, after the

arrest -- i'm not sure if you covered this, but a border patrol officer was close by and shot towards the vehicle, which apparently may have prompted him to surrender. in addition to that, you have the fbi. mark, can you get off the stick? is it possible? i'm talking with my photographer right now. we're sort of pinned in by a lot of press. >> i understand, mark. >> but probably about a quarter of a mile down i'm looking at police vehicles with their lights still on. this happened at 11:00 a.m. pacific time numerous agencies all involved. by coincidence, we've been rehearsing for things like this recently, but who can prepare for this. >> if you can get off sticks, that would be great. i know the scene. it's 4:49, you're in hour five or six right now. as we were talking with one of

the congregants a little bit earlier, there's still a lot of questions out there. she was describing what you were mentioning, mark, about that individual, the border patrol agent that went after the suspect's car, we believe. went after the suspect's car we believe. all that part of the story that's still moving. >> right, and that could have saved a lot of lives. it's still a bit unclear whether the border patrol agent happen today be one of the congregants or happened to be nearby. but law enforcement is spread all around. because immediately after arresting the alleged gunman they knew where he lived and this is the guy, right? so they immediately went to his house in this community which is not far from here, executed a search warrant and they began there. and wherever else this person has ties, clearly upward of five, six different law enforcement agencies right now are on the case. but very active, ongoing and

tragic all at once. >> mark, our anchor there at our affiliate knsd in san diego. really appreciate it. joining us nbc correspondent morgan chesky. you've been following the story coming out of poway as well as what the president has been saying over twitter and more. how has that been sort of resonating there as you're there at the rally in green bay, wisconsin. >> reporter: well, richard i can tell you the president just touched down here in green bay a few minutes ago. you said that he did condemn this shooting on twitter, extending thoughts and pray toorz the victims there. we also know when he boarded air force one to come to this very rally he made two phone calls. one was to the mayor of poway and the second was to governor gavin newsome as they lead their

communities on from that shooting. and we did catch the president as he left from the south bay in order to come to green bay and he made some remarks regarding this very shooting. let's listen in. >> our deepest sympathies go to the people that were affected, the families, the loves ones that based on my last conversations, looks like a hate crime. hard to believe. hard to believe, with respect to the synagogue in california near san diego. and we're doing some very heavy research. we'll see what happens, what comes up. at this moment it looks like a hate crime, but my deepest sympathies to all those affected and we'll get to the bottom of it. it looks like the person was apprehended, no more danger. and law enforcement has done a fantastic job. >> reporter: and regarding law

enforcement, the president had this tweet to send out just a short time after he made those remarks saying sincerest thank you to our great border patrol agent who stopped the shooter at the synagogue in poway, california. he may have been off-duty but his talents for law enforcement weren't. and as we learn details that off-duty border patrol officer was inside the synagogue when this happened. as for the rally tonight we're told air force one wheels down just a short time ago. the president is on his way here now where he's expected to take the stage behind me in just a few minutes to what looks like to be a packed house, catching the president for the first time. and i can tell you the vibe here is much more campaign oriented with 2020 just a short time away. that receiving a lot of mentions tonight. >> there's also of course his supporters that stand behind you there in green bay, wisconsin,

looking forward to shall we call it a very energetic message coming from the president. has the very story coming out of california come to discussion by any of those there behind you you've been able to speak with so far this early evening, 6:53? >> reporter: i can tell you we have had a chance to interact with some of the people during the event but they've had the president's son and local congressman take the stage behind me addressing the crowds here. at this point in time the shooting has not been addressed in the rally. we'll listen closely to hear what he has to say in a few minute minutes. >> the president also mentioned heavy research. the typical sort of language that might have stood out slightly or it's heavy research, any thoughts on that? >> reporter: we're still waiting to hear what the president has

to say to tonight regarding the different shooting in question. we notice on twitter he has called this a crime that he's apologized to the victims for their extended thoughts at this time. as far as what that deep research is we're still waiting to hear specifics. richard? >> morgan chesky there with the president as we hear you've just touched down about to deliver a rally there for us, thank you so much, morgan, for that. we continue of course to watch the breaking news coming out of poway, california. if the shooting that began all about six hours ago, this at that location the habad of poway synagogue. and again the information we got from local officials, one day, three injured. we expect there will be a briefing in the next hour or so according to officials there. and we understand that those who were injured, there were three

patients that were sent to palomar medical center which was close by here to the synagogue where the shooting did happen. it is now 4:55 local time. the suspect now identified as john earnest, 19 years old. this individual has more questions surrounding him than there are answers. and that is what's happening in the synagogue as they interview what we believe to be up to 100 cong congrugnts to try to get the information. what happened and who are the people who helped to mitigate what could have been a very, very deadly day today and it did not end up that way although unfortunately one has died. thanks for spending your time with us. reverend al sharpton's nbc news special is up next. - the tech industry is supposed to be a leader

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