about my mother every week so he has to think about her and i have to, i can remember her again. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline". i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. so good to be with you on this saturday morning. i'm frances rivera. it's 6:00 in the east. 3:00 out west. here's what's happening. close call, terrifying video showing the moments a plane slid off a runway and into a river in jacksonville. surprise test. a possible overnight weapons launch from north korea could be the first one in almost a year and a half. raising new questions about the north's strategy. head-to-head. the first match-up showing which democratic candidate could have the best shot of beating the president next fall. alexa is watching, listening. new privacy concerns about what

kind of data amazon is collecting on its customers and how you can opt-out. we begin with this. terrifying moments as a charter plane slides off a runway crashing right into a river during an attempted landing in florida. the boeing 737 plane carrying 143 people was arriving at naval air station jacksonville from naval station guantanamo bay. the plane was in shallow water and not submerged. 21 people were taken to local hospitals in good condition as officials said everyone on board is alive and accounted for. >> as i was en route here, i heard that we had no critical injuries. to say that i was wiping sweat off my brow would, of course, welcome back an understatement. >> no word on what caused the plane to leave the runway. there was rough weather in the area. joining me now over the phone, kyle bailey an aviation

analyst and former faa safety team representative. kyle i appreciate your time this morning. let's start off by walking us through what the response is for pilots in this kind of situation. >> good morning, frances. nice to be with you. first of all, i want to say what was the runway condition was. what was the weather like in the immediate area. i'll throw a couple of possible scenarios out there. say a malfunctioning thrust reversers or high winds in the area could be a possible cause of this plane to crash. the reaction would be, you know, if the pilot found himself coming in too fast remember or had some kind of emergency, serious emergency on landing he would pretty much go through the emergency procedures and

initiate the thrust to the maximum to bring the plane to a stop. the key question here is what was, you know, the actual weather conditions that actually, at that time of the crash. >> based on what you've hear and learned so far about this, this plane going off the runway and right into the water, how would you say from your experience that the pilot handled this overall from what you know at this point? >> it's kind of early to know. what i would tell you this airplane was chartered by a company called miami air. this is actually the first major accident that airline has had. that airline has a very good reputation for safety. and it's actually also used by, you know, the vip community. so, for example, flying executive vips, dig a dignitiar

sporting teams they have a good airplane. that airplane is a 737 the early series which is the, pretty much the work horse of the boeing fleet. >> we know this is not a commercial airline, but it was contracted. you look at these pictures. we can put them up once again. you can't help but find what comes to mind, miracle on the hudson from 2009. tell us what you think may have been taken from that incident and the protocol when it comes to saving people from the water. >> this instance pretty much reminds me of previous accidents that happened at laguardia airport. typically when you have water near or around a runway and you have runways very super long, this does happen once in a blue moon. we've seen it happen at laguardia airport previously.

the runways at this arraignment were fairly long. one was 8,000 feet. about 8,000. those -- the long runway is about 1,000 longer than laguardia airport. laguardia is pretty much known to have pretty short runways for commercial passenger operations. >> all of us who fly and we see that water it's something that comes to mind. all right, kyle, i appreciate your time here. kyle bailey. i know you'll be talking with us in the next hour for more insight on what happened here. i appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. now from north korea, conducting a weapons test earlier today from wonsan. projectiles were fired into the sea. the test lasted 20 minutes and sparked a flury of phone calls between south korea and the white house. matt bradley joins us from london. the president has not tweeted

about this. what your learning? >> reporter: the south korean government has already come out and said these aren't ballistic missiles but nobody nobody neither in the u.s., south korea or japan has been able to identify exactly what these weapons were except to say they were short range weapons. japan has said they didn't come anywhere near their coastline. and sarah huckabee sanders, the white house press secretary, she told reporters last night that they are aware of the test and other white house officials have said they are trying to gear more clues to find out exactly what was launched. still based on what we know this latest launch wasn't a violation of pyongyang's promise to stop testing long range missiles or nuclear weapons but it still says something. if this turns out to be a missile test it would have been the first since 2017. that's long before president trump and north korean leader kim jong-un started this round

of face-to-face negotiations. so north korea watchers and defense analysts, they say kim is growing impatient with these negotiations. president trump met with kim in hanoi in vietnam back in february and that meeting didn't go so well. kim stormed out before the conference had even ended. that's because president trump had refused to lift sanctions on north korea unless kim would agree to give up his nuclear weapons. so since then kim attempted a test in april for what north korean media called it a tactical weapon. so if negotiations don't go their way they can go back to testing and rising tensions. we'll be watching the president's twitter feed to see his response to that. meanwhile developing today new wave of criticism after the president spoke on the phone yesterday with russian president

putin and dismissed the two year investigation. the conversation reportedly lasted more than an hour. this is the photo that a russian news agency released of putin during that call. it was their first exchange since the mueller report concluded the russian government interfered in the 2016 election. and the trump campaign expected to benefit from information that was stolen. >> we discussed he actually sort of smiled when he said something to the effect that it started off as a mountain and it ended up being a mouse. but he knew that because he knew there was no collusion whatsoever. so pretty much that's what it was. >> meanwhile a new ultimatum by house democrats for the attorney general to release the full

unredacted mueller report. demanding a demand by monday or hold a.g. barr in contempt. some are calling the attorney general to resign after his testimony. >> has the president or anyone at the white house ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone? yes or no, please, sir. >> the president or anybody else? >> seems you would remember something like that and be able to tell us. >> yeah, but i'm trying to grapple with the word out there not asked me to open an investigatio i don't know are, say suggest. >> hinted. inferred. you don't know. >> kamala harris now following up, requesting that the department of justice to investigate whether the a.g. has

received or acted upon requests, suing gergss whether implied or implicit to investigate the president's perceived enemies. >> if, in fact, there's been any influence by the president over the attorney general we should know that and something investigated and disclosed and discovered. really at play is the integrity of our system of justice. it is undermining people's confidence in our democracy. >> mike, following up on the president's phone call with putin, let's start with that. it's what they didn't talk about here that's the focus and raising eyebrows. >> reporter: you're absolutely right. it was an hour long conversation between these two leaders. they talked a lot about some front burner issues on the international stage. they talked about venezuelas they talked about reducing nuclear arms, they talked about bringing china into those talks,

they talked about the ukraine where russia still occupies crimea. they talked about trade. they talked about russian interference well documented by the intelligence community and the mueller report, they only talked about it in the context according to sarah huckabee sanders the white house press secretary of saying it's over, there was no collusion, they hope to be moving on, they insist that they are now moving on and, of course, that's been the white house talking point over the course of the last two weeks and even the course of the last five weeks since that controversial summary was released by attorney general bill barr. yesterday our own kristen welker had an opportunity to ask president trump in an unrelated photo op about why in fact this russian meddling did not come up and plans for russian meddling in the 2020 elections as documented by bob mueller didn't come up either. >> did you tell him not to

meddle in the next election? >> excuse me, i'm talk. i'm answering this question. you are very rude. conversationt many different things. >> did you tell him not to meddle in the next question. >> we didn't discuss that. >> reporter: russian interference according to bob mueller as you reported at the top sweeping and systematic. sarah huckabee sanders again insisting, trying to deflect blame to the obama administration for as they claim here at the white house not doing anything about it. we know the obama administration tried to take steps behind-the-scenes to do something during the 2016 election to stop russia from doing what it was doing, specifically meddling in the election and, again, planning to meddle again in 2020. mike, thank you. i want to bring in a white house correspondent and also jonathan allen national political reporter with nbc news as we get start this morning. to both of you, safe to say,

president trump sided with the russian president after meeting with him in finland. take a listen. >> i have president putinin. he said it's not russia. i'll say this, i dodge see any reason why it would be. i have great confidence in my intelligence people. i will tell you president putin was strong and powerful in his denial. >> the president there again missing this opportunity to change the narrative that he is not confronting president putin strongly enough, right? >> yeah. that certainly is the criticism he's getting today and after yesterday's hour long phone call. a lot of people are bringing up that same press conference you played in helsinki feeling president trump totally deflected and missed an opportunity to confront putin on meddling in the election. it's a big concern of a lot of people in the united states.

on both sides of the aisle. but president trump continues to resist that and as you pointed out he's looking to move on. he's talking about the positive nature of the call. and the fact that mueller, that they feel there's no collusion found. >> looking ahead when it comes to 2020, jonathan, that's the question here. last week we learned the former homeland security secretary but mulvaney say it's questioning his re-election legitimacy. >> frances, i think there are two separate questions. sometimes the administration acts independently of the president until the president learns what his administration is doing and will make a decision about whether they can continue or not. we see that in foreign policy all the time.

what we have not seen, though, is sort of a full approach by this government to counter russia and if you're the president of the united states and as robert mueller said, the russians, you know, gave him help, he benefitted from that help and accepted that help and his campaign solicited that help -- you have another election coming up. i guess it makes sense you wouldn't turn around and say russians are responsible for my election and i'll do everything i can to hurt them in between that election and the second election because, obviously, you wouldn't want them to decide that they've turned on you. >> when it comes to the focus on this phone call, 2020 russian meddling, and how the president could have been stronger on that, we saw yesterday along with it a strong jobs report which can be particularly important for the president's re-election campaign, unemployment at its lowest rate

since 1969, but remains higher for hispanics and almost double for african-americans. little progress there from last month. when it comes to the democrats can they campaign on the economy in this kind of environment? >> it's going to be hard. this is certainly, even those who are critics of president trump acknowledged that the economy doing these numbers that just came out is a plus for president trump. as they say it's all about the economy. the economy, the economy. those who feel that trump, many of the big things, you know, one of the big concerns after the mueller report for many democrats is that because it didn't come, you know, come out with cluing that a lot could depend on how the economy did. there's been a lot of concern about the economy dropping. this report certainly seems to show a more stronger economy. obviously, there are still concerns about the economy in the preceding months as we get closer to the 2020 election. but today, yesterday's news and today certainly a boom for president trump. >> that's the question of how

much can he ride through 2020 and if he will at all. jonathan you spoke with some republicans and trump allies. are they worried on whether the president is focusing enough on the economy? >> some of them are. some look at the president and say, this is somebody who should be hammering home these jobs numbers and the overall gdp growth and some of these other economic numbers and if he would just focus on that he might see a rise in his overall approval numbers. other republicans you talk to campaign officials, they don't seem to be very concerned about it right now about his overall approval ratings. they think he's on the right track with his special brand of politics that mixes in other issues. >> how much will that factor in when it comes to those who want to take him on in 2020. when it comes to those numbers i want to bring them in. the president is behind five 2020 democrats.

beto o'rourke is ahead by ten percentage points. followed by vice president biden. sanders, harris and pete buttigieg. how do we interpret this? it is early, but what do we read into that? >> it is early. definitely early. these numbers are important. they show momentum. they show drive. they show who is ahead. very crucial for those candidates themselves because all those candidates particularly if you look just on the democratic side beto o'rourke, biden, they are going out and reaching to the same potential donors for campaign funds. so these investors, those donors, they want to support a winning candidate. so when you're trying to make your case for more money for a p.a.c., it's good to show you're ahead. this is not unimportant. >> jonathan, what does the president do at this point? we talked about the economy. does he need to zero in on that?

>> i don't think it's the only thing. the president has to walk and chew gum at the same time. if you're him i think you worry a little bit about this in part because some of those candidates are not well-known. the name i.d. for candidates like pete buttigieg and beto o'rourke is still well below say a joe biden. if you look at beto o'rourke beating the president by a big number and a lot of the country doesn't even know who he is that's got to be worrisome for you if you're president trump. on the other hand, his campaign believes that the universe that pollsters, independent pollsters are looking at is the wrong universe and the set of people that will show up on election day is a little bit different. >> all right thank you both for being with us early. the critical white house witness in the mueller case and whether he gets subpoenaed to testify before congress. and be sure to catch presidential candidate mayor pete buttigieg in tonight's

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in new threats, the trump administration say they will not allow don mcgahn to testify before congress. democrats are considering him a critical witness after his detailed notes on the president's obstruction efforts were cited more than 65 times in

mueller's report according to "the washington post". >> i don't think i can let him and tell everybody else you can, especially him because he was counsel. so they testified for many hours all of them. >> i think the president indicated he'll make a decision about whether or not the executive privilege -- let's remember here, don mcgahn was made available to the special counsel. >> congress should be -- >> they shouldn't be looking any more. it's done. >> as the president said last night it's time for us to get back to business. >> joining me now is nbc legal analyst danny cevallos. great to have you with us. let's start with this "washington post" article that says that the white house threats about blocking mcgahn from testifying won't hold up saying they shot themselves in the foot on don mcgahn. so have they? because mcgahn is a former employee does that men they no longer have authority over his actions. >> that's right.

that doesn't me they won't and can't try. after harriet myers was former white house counsel and left the administration the bush administration tried to block her testimony as well. when that went before the courts the courts determined that you can't blanket invoke executive privilege, myers would have to appear, have to testify but could invoke the privilege as to specific questions. now that was an instance where harriet myers didn't want to testify and everybody was on board with not testifying. the reality is that mcgahn, as a former executive branch official has the ultimate decision himself. >> okay. so when it comes to a possible nondisclosure agreement between the white house and mcgahn how do you factor that in and how would it hinder his testimony? >> it's a non-issue when it comes to him testifying before congress. a nondisclosure agreement is an

interesting tool in civil cases between parties suing each other for money. but as trump will find out or has already found out his nondisclosure agreements crumble in the face of criminal investigations and things like congressional subpoenas. those nondisclosure agreements are just contracts between parties. they are civil events. they are meaningless ultimately if the government really wants to get through them with its subpoena power, search warrant power, any of its other powers. >> i want to turn now to the attorney general, the house speaker this week excusing him of committing a crime. let's listen and talk about it after. >> top law enforcement officer in our country misrepresenting, withholding the truth from the congress of the united states. >> madam speaker did the attorney general commit a crime? >> he lied to congress. he lied to congress. if anybody else did that it would be considered a crime. nobody is above the law. >> all right.

danny, is there a perjury case that could be made or were the comments misleading. what are the legal standards? >> lying to congress even under oath or not under oath are both crimes. but there's a lot to unpack in the elements of the crime of lying to congress. the lie must be intentional. it must be a false statement of fact. and in this case, it must be material. so believe it or not even little white lies arguably do not fall within the perjury statute. so, it's a really easy charge to make and to say and to accuse someone but ultimately proving it may be more difficult than members of congress may think because it really will turn on the intent behind the statement and whether the statement was actually false. not something that reasonable minds can disagree on but something that was knowingly and intentionally false. >> danny cevallos, always great

to have you with us to digest everything that happened. president trump says he doesn't want russia to interfere with the 2020 election. why didn't he say that in his call to vladimir putin? that's next.

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president trump tweeted about his phone call with russian president putin saying it was long and very good and included talks on venezuela and north korea. joining me now christopher dicky world news editor with the "daily beast" and msnbc contributor. always great to have you, christopher. the president told reporters there that putin smiled even though it wasn't a video call, the president seems to know that. what's your assessment from the read outs? >> reporter: well, i think what the president was talking about was when putin supposedly told him that the mueller investigation was a mountain that turned out to be a mouse which is classic russian phrase. now we don't know that that's actually anything that putin said. we don't know that they talked about the mueller investigation at all and that's what trump told us. there's no reason to believe trump on anything. the read out on the call didn't mention the mueller report. we have conflicting views right there. on the other questions, there

are a lot of issues to take up with russia. the question was, was trump asking for help? was he threatening? was he telling putin to back off? most likely he was asking forced a vice from vladimir putin. the other question is how much information did he share with putin? because there are certain classified things that he probably knows from the redacted mueller report that putin would like to know. so, it's one of those horrible things where we don't know anything really about what putin and trump talked about, but we do know that they were friendly, according to trump just about the same way they were at helsinki at the summit there where we had collusion right in front of our faces. >> we also don't even know who instigated this call and why that happened to begin with. on the topic of north korea and russia, less than ten days ago we had kim and putin meeting face-to-face. then after putin and trump talked about north korea kim put

on a 20-minute show over the east sea. what should we be reading there as far as in between the lines at all? >> reporter: well, you know, kim is tweaking, sort of poking at trump with him saying okay you keep saying i'm not having any missile tests since the summit in singapore, but the truth is i'm going to test these little missiles. we'll call them projectiles. the next step could be bigger missiles. so you better come around and negotiate the way we want to negotiate. step by step. you lift some sanctions, we give up a few things and we progress like that. that's the pattern with all the failed negotiations with north korea in the past. but that's what kim wants to repeat. that's exactly what the russian read out on the phone call with trump said that putin recommended they do. >> last question for you here on venezuela as far as you're

writing here you say that the coup that was not a coup, "washington post" has new details on new yorkers and also betrayals that led to the noncoup. what do you think of america's efforts to depose maduro and why is it not already a done deal? >> reporter: it's not a done deal because basically maduro has too strong of a security apparatus and too much support among a large part of the population. as horrible as things are in venezuela, there's still a substantial part of the population that supports him and also substantial part that doesn't trust the opposition. you know, we're always talking about how horrible maduro is. i don't think people have looked closely at the opposition, which is also rife with corruption as every venezuelan knows. there's sort of an ambivalence. when you talk about moves that could lead to civil war which is essentially what self-declared

president juan guaido was talking about last week, he's not getting a lot of enthusiasm there. you call for a coup. you say it's not a coup. the army is backing you, over0 throw maduro it doesn't happen. they hate maduro. they feel trapped. >> christopher as always, thank you. the groceries you are buying, the books you are reading, what you're saying behind closed doors. why amazon is collecting more information than you think or want and how you can opt. quick programming note. msnbc is live every saturday and sunday at 6:00 eastern. we're back in a moment. -what a sign, huh? terry, can you take a selfie of me? -take a selfie of you? -yeah. can you make it look like i'm holding it?

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as does its twitch gaming service. kindle monitors the books you read, even the passages you highlight. amazon's ring service can show who shows up at your door for weeks. now it owns whole foods it knows your grocery list. the company says this data helps improve the customer service but some believe the company should do more to protect consumers. >> if you want to use consumer data to improve your products, you should have opt-in. >> reporter: as for listening to your conversations amazon says it reviews an extremely small number of randomly selected echo recordings to improve how the device understands language. access to that data is tightly controlled and it has a der tolerance policy for abuse. it says the echo doe not record or scene any audio or data to the cloud unless you specifically wake it up by speaking your chosen wake word.

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with the one and only botox® cosmetic. new this morning democrats are turning up the volume on concerns about attorney general bill barr. senator kamala harris, her exchange with barr during his senate injuries committee testimony is prompt agnew avenue of investigation. barr side stepped her question about whether the president or anyone at the white house asked or suggested he open an investigation of anyone and in new interview with my colleague rachel maddox senator harris spoke about how she followed up. >> do you believe it's possible he's been getting direction from the white house or from the president about opening investigations into the

president's perceived enemies? do you think that's what's happening? >> based on his nonresponse i'm suspicious. which is why i've asked the office of the inspector general to actually investigate this. because, of course, the attorney general is supposed to act on behalf of the people and not act as the president's henchman. >> joining me now is democratic strategist, former senior adviser to hillary clinton's campaign and "boston herald" radio host, also a nationally syndicated columnist. welcome to both of you as we get started with you. does senator harris have a valid concern here? is it a problem if a.g. barr isn't acting independently from the white house? >> bill sbbarr is a professiona. he has a sterling reputation. you know, he's not acting as a

partisan personal attorney of president trump. those are smears from democrats to discredit him because they are afraid that they are going to be exposed as part of a conspiracy to take down president trump and to as the conspiracy to take down president trump and delegitimize the election. they are running scared. they are applying the strategy that the best defense is the best offense. they are trying to shoot the messenger. >> antjuan, smears? clearly does senator harris have a valid concern? >> it is clear my dear friend is drinking the kool-aid instead of the coffee this morning. we know if this is barack hussain obama's attorney sitting before the committee, they would have been crafting the articles of impeachment as he was sitting there. when she talked about running, it is evidently clear that president trump's a.g. would not go to the house democrats

hearing. something that i think is unprecedented and we all know that again if that was barack hussain obama's first attorney general, we would have been jumping off the cliff and going crazy about this. what we do know about this administration and this president and those he surrounds himself with, they pledge their allegiance to them. we continue to see the cups of corruption overflow. conservatives and republicans thinking about life after trump will have to come to grips of life after 2020. >> and grilling barr at the meeting. harris and booker and klobuchar. we heard from them. antjuan, how much was about posturing here and how important are the performances to the presidential bids? >> i took from the hearing that

number one, democrats have a number of talented individuals throughout our party and we saw that on display in the hearing. the second thing i took from this is we all should have learned from the hearing. the severe deep consequences of elections. imagine if we had a democratic controlled senate? a democratic controlled committee taking a hearing head on. we would have seen a tremendously different result. the third thing is we all see how important it is for people to block and tackle. everyone had a role to play. the next set of elections in 2020 will be the most transformati transformational in my political lifetime. >> adriana, when it comes to the new national cnn poll, who would come out ahead of the presidential elections if it were held right now. beto o'rourke with the largest lead in a match up against donald trump with 10%.

joe biden and bernie sanders come out ahead of trump with leads outside of the margin of error. i know everybody says yeah. it is early. what do you make of this? adriana? >> i think president trump's leadership ushering in the strong economy and historically low unemployment for americans and some of his other achievements will put him over the top in 2020. it is about the economy. every day mainstream voters care about the kitchen table issues. more money in their pockets. >> you say all that. there is the question of the president and why he is not focusing on that and having that be the narrative and what we are hearing more and more of. >> that should be the narrative. i think it is a good political strategy. for a politician to showcase their strengths. he has enormous strengths. >> is it a missed opportunity for the president if he is not?

>> i think he is letting the numbers speak for themselves. the jobs numbers just came out. they are stellar. the americans feel or see more money in their pockets. they see more job opportunities from the prior administration. he knows voters are feeling the benefits of his leadership with the strong economy. >> let me respond to a couple of things. why this economy is roaring for some and screaming for others. people in this country will forget about making ends meet. they are putting two ends together hoping they meet. we have the working poor. they are working two and three jobs and still find themselves in poverty. the economy is doing well for some. the typical people at the top. it is not doing well for others. for you to say this -- >> the facts don't reflect that, antjuan. wages are up. >> they do reflect that. the facts speak for themselves when you have a segment of population in the country called

the working poor. while you want to do toe coaches and victory laps of the economy and we had the same argument in the 2018 midterms. the number one issue on the minds of voters is health care. while we can debate about the economy and it is doing well and segments doing well, but what is on the hearts and minds of voters is health care. you all have a terrible record on health care. repeal and replace is what you ran on for eight years while president obama was in office. now you try to get it done and it has back fired tremendously with this administration. i look forward to having a real debate about this in 2020. >> we have a lot of time for that. another time. right now, i want to bring it back around, adriana, especially with the con turnkocontenders a numbers when it comes to the polls. sizing up the democratic field. joe biden with 38%. elizabeth warren leaping in

second with 12%. adriana, you spoke with the president who called in to your radio show and asked if he was worried about biden or the other candidates. listen quickly and we'll talk about it. >> he's a sleepy man. who knows who can do the best? in many ways, i like him. he is not as smart as bernie. he is not as quick, but he's got different views a little bit, i guess. >> we had those numbers up. is the president trying to downplay the threats the candidates can pose to his campaign? >> no, i don't think he is worried at all. joe biden has run twice. he's failed running for president twice. what threat is that? he had to drop out of the race. he barely got 1%. he is not a threat. with respect to elizabeth warren, she is polling low in her own state in massachusetts. if she is a viable contender for president, she should be in

first place in massachusetts in polling. she's not. >> quickly -- i know you chuckle. >> i chuckle because it is clear. >> she has work to do. >> i chuckle because it is clear that donald trump and the entire republican party are scared pissless about joe biden being the 2020 nominee. the attacks ramped up on him and we are not close to deciding who the nominee is. >> we have to leave it at that. i wish we had more for both of you. antjuan and adriana, thank you for the lively conversation. >> thank you. anticipation in britain today. has it already happened? we will have a live report on the mystery in the next hour. ere (dad) got it?

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