>> thank you. thank you for joining us for this hour of msnbc live. i'll see you tomorrow morning. andrea mitchell reports. thank you. right now, under pressure. president trump tweeting some more heat against the fed to ease interest rates, to ease anxiety on wall street caused by his own trade war on china and the worry over oil prices. >> we are the piggy bank that herb likes to take advantage of or take from and we can't let that happen anymore. war of words. tension mount between the u.s. and iran as the national security adviser orders a worse case option to deploy as many as 120,000 troops. is it a scare tactic or a real threat. >> would di do that? absolutely. we have not planned for that. if we did that, we would send a

lot more than that. >> now we're threatening war with iran. i mean, the man has no foreign policy. back to the future. the attorney general ordering a to prosecutor to look into how the russia investigation began. >> now that we have a prosecutor in place, we'll take a different approach and back off. good day, every one fit's a busy day where trump is escalating trade war with china. >> we're having a little squabble with china because we've been treated very unfairly for many, many decades. the relationship i have with president xi is extraordinary. it's very good. he's for china and i'm for the

usa. it's very simple. they want ta make a deal. it could absolutely happen but in the meantime a lot of money is being made by the united states. >> these remarks followed 15 tweets in two days. ten this morning alone. a mix against china and tariffs. joining me kirsten welker. msnbc contributor and former director of the national economic council for president's clinton and obama. first to you, the president this morning he keeps going after china on trade. he blame them for backing away from a deal and refuses to accept what his own economic adviser larry kudlow said on sunday that tariffs are taxes on american consumers. >> he was defiant again today as he's heading to louisianlouisia. the president reiterating what his economic adviser has broken

with the very idea. who will bear the brunt of this. the president trying to suggest it wouldn't be u.s. consumers. he was pressed on his language calling this a squabble when it's an all out trade war and i asked him, is he winning the trade war. he didn't deny the dispute rose to that level. he tried to make the case they are winning the trade war. he said we always win. he does have plans to meet with which the xi at the g-20 summit next month. it's not clear that active negotiations are under way. he denied they are at a stand still but bottom line it's not clear how this all ends. we know there are jitters across the country not only in markets but farmers in other industries who are really concerned this is going to hurt their bottom line and has already started to hurt their bottom line. the president defending his

policy. >> joe biden was speaking this morning about this. the china trade war and the president. >> the fact of the matter is, what we were doing, you can't get much done on trade relative to china by engaging in a trade war that only hurts working people and farmers. he's so alienated in rest of the world, i don't know how you think you weren't going to be able to change china going alone. >> you were an economic adviser in two administrations. the president does have a point that prior administration did not challenge china on the stealing of an intellectual property, on cyber attacks and the likes. maybe he's going about it the wrong way. he has a point about china, correct? >> i disagree with your assessment about what happened in the obama administration but

i do agree that there is a case for being -- for even using tariffs on china if you do it in way that's strong and strategic. we should be willing to take a bit of pain to help keep them from stealing our intellectual property. there's a difference between being strong and strategic and having a reckless strategy. i think biden had it right. imagine if the united states were coming at china with a united front with europe and canada together. it would be very hard for them to be just picking off our individual manufacturers and farmers because wooee'd have und the whole world on this issue. instead, at the same time we're trying to get tough on china, we're picking needless, silly trade disputes with our friends like canada. that weakens us and makes it

easier for china to engage in this tit for tat strategy. i would support being strong and tough. we're seeing volatile, not smart strategy. most of the world thinks which trump are we getting today. the trump that wants to talk more tough and macho or the trump that's so afraid of the stock market going down that he'll back down and take whatever deal he ultimately needs to keep peace in his economy. >> joe, he's got some unlikely democratic allies or unfamiliar democratic allies. chuck schumer and other democrats agree with him. there are a lot of red state democrats other than the farmers. >> this is not a new issue. during the obama administration, there was severe push back on

currency manipulation that the chinese were imposing on world trade. there was public movement by the chinese too to add just that and benefit the united states. i think gene is right. there's no question, there are democrats who view china and the relationship as unbalanced. i think the president has no strategy, no plan. he seems to be a rambling kind of strategy. >> president xi of china, the chinese can wait us out. every one suffers in a trade war, both sides. they have more to lose than we have to lose. that's a given. the fact they take a longer view politically. when you're president for life, you don't have to worry about the next election. >>e taking the long view. they do have more to lose.

when you look at farmers in the u.s., they don't have alternative markets to seek. that's why you see now the white house floating an idea of another potential bail out for farmers where if do ylook in ch look at the imports they take from the united states, they can get that from canada, from france. they have other markets they can go to to stop the bleeding. this could go on for a really long period of time and u.s. consumers will have to wait that out too. the question is how long can they wait? >> what about the markets? what about our own economy? it's been sort naturally long. could this trade war spook investors around the world. >> donald trump has benefitted from two things in his life. he's inherited a lot of money from his father and a strong economy from barack obama. it's not clear what he has done

has helped this economy at all. in fact, when you look at the unnecessary volatility over the government shutdown, when you look at the way he's handling this particular -- really all his trade battles in the kind of reckless, narcissistic type of way he usually governs, i think it has created a lot of uncertainty. i would support a bit of shore term discomfort if we have a strong and smart strategy for chie changing china's behavior in the long run. i do think you start to see a degree of volatility and recklessness in this president that i think probably has a negative impact on the economy. i think it's reasonable to believe that this economy that he inherited might be stronger

and steadier if he, himself, acted stronger and steadier. >> thank you so much. great to see you. attorney general william barr green lighting something the president has been demanding. appointing career prosecutor a month ago to review how the russia probe started under the obama administration. >> i think it's a great thing he did it. i saw it last night. they want to look at how that whole hoax got started. it was the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the people of this country. i'm so proud of our attorney general that he is looking into it. >> let's bring in barbara mcquaid. what say you about the

legitimacy, the reasonableness of having a prosecutor go back over what the obama administration did when they first starred the russia probe. >> we already have two investigation sbos into this ma. i don't know why we need a third investigator. if you look at the fbi and you have done nothing wrong, you say bring it on. when you pile on with a third, i think it contributes to that narrative that this was a hoax. this investigate the investigators idea i worry would have a chilling affect on work of the fbi. >> the u.s. attorney involved is john durham in connecticut. he investigated the cia and fbi

interrogation techniques. what's the point of durham? what does it tell you about william barr doing this? >> john durham has a good reputation. he's been called upon to look at high level, high profile abuses. he's found some in some instances. in some he has not. he's a serious person whose work will be taken seriously. i don't know what's happened to the work of john huber or the inner general. i worry this is a criminal investigation which requires some sort of predication. that's an allegation of criminal misconduct. there's concern that the fbi may have used it s authorities in some way. i don't know that we've seen anything nonfrivolous about

that. you would expect the inspector general to look into that. bringing someone to look at this from a criminal perspective raises stakes. i don't know if they have information not known to the public or just all part of the same narrative that causes william barr to use terms like collusion and spying that speaks more to the way the president speaks than the way law enforcement speaks. >> i believe this is an attack os the mueller report and herings that have taken place. it's an attempt to discredit mueller, this report and what's happening in congress today. that's what this is all about. we were joking before there would have to be an investigation to the investigation to the investigation to the investigation. it's never ending of what this president will do to try to

discredit the special investigation and the mueller report. >> this is how stark the difference of the justice department being led by attorney general barr than attorney general sessions. when william barr came in, the big question will he follow the rules or will he be seen as an agent of the president and it seems so far that it's the latter. for the president to say he didn't know this was happening, he called on twitter for this to happen for the better part of a year. clearly the attorney general has heard him. this is taking place. it's parallel to what's going on in congress and that's the exact optic that the president wants. >> kristen, it does indicate there are very few fire wawalls between the justice department and the white house. >> reporter: the criticism is growing louder from democrats on capitol hill that says this. this is yet another example of

bar acting like he's the president's attorney than the president of the united states. he disputes that characterization. he said there are real questions that need to be answered but the ultimate fall out here could be growing strains between this president and law enforcement community. >> indeed. thank you all so much. first, war games. the trump administration threatens to ramp up troops in the middle east as tensions with iran leereach a boiling point. re. . billions of problems. sore gums? bleeding gums? painful flossing? there's a therabreath for you. therabreath healthy gums oral rinse fights gingivitis and plaque and prevents gum disease for 24 hours. so you can... breathe easy, there's therabreath at walmart.

president trump, today, distancing himself from a new york times report that his national securitied visor john bolton has offered a dramatic war option. one of many options for iran. >> i think it's fake news. would i do that? absolutely. we have not planned for that. hopefully we're not going to have to plan for that. if we did that, we'd send more troops than that. >> this comes as mike pompeo flew to russia today. joining me now is former acting cia director. i can't think of two people i would rather talk to to try to

understand what our iran policy is. john, you've written on it brilliantly today. i cannot understand, first of all, what evidence did pompeo present when he barge sbood int european summit yesterday in brussels. they were meeting to try to do figure out what to do about the u.s. and escalating pressure. he shows up. they probably had a few hours notice and wanted individual meetings to argue the iranians for lightly responsible for suspicious attacks on oil tankers near the strait of hormuz. there wasn't hard evidence. they are launching their own services.

we don't really know what's going on and at the same time bolton asked for the option of 120,000 troops. what would you do with 120,000 troops? it's almost as many as we sent to iraq. >> it would take you weeks to ase assemble them. it look likes a strategic cul-de-sac. add up what happened here. we withdraw from the nuclear agreement alieanating all the partners who would have offered leverage to help us. >> europe, china, russia. >> all of europe, russia, china and canada. then you're left with a couple of options. you can try to negotiate a new agreement, he won't do that. you can look for regime change.

someone should remind trump he's been trying to get out of the middle east. it doesn't make sense. >> especially after his announcement of withdrawal. >> in terms of an uprising, i suppose that's always possibly. we have seen that tried before. the iranian security services are very good at staying on top och th of that and they have never had a leader who could mobilize every one to stay on the case long enough to get it done. you just don't see where this is going. we end up with no partners in the nuclear agreement. we end up with military options that are not viable and we end up with maybe trying to encourage some sort of internal uprising that's not likely to

sk succeed. i don't see where it goes. >> they tweeted this is complete mad madness. trump cancels a deal with iran. they have drawn up plans to send 120,000 more than troops to a new war in the middle east. peter, you've been covering this region forever. >> you see in his comments today on the south lawn is the fundamental probable of his policy. we're not planning for sending 120,000 troops but if we did, i'd send a whole lot more. >> and to do what. >> are we trying to get out of the middle east? withdrawing us from quagmires ov overseas. as far as he's concerned these are places we shouldn't be

wasting our time. they will much more hawkish on these things than the president. always been a particularly skeptical observer of iran. always want to take a more confrontational approach. this question is how much of the two of them on the same page. is ambassador bolton influencing him or is he having meetings that the president might get mad about. >> this is trump last week on the very question about john bolton. >> are you satisfied with the advice you receive from john bolton? >> yeah, john is very good. he has strong views on things but that's okay. i actually temper john which is pretty amazing. i'm the one that tempers him. that's okay. i have different sides. i have john bolton and other people that are a little more dovish than him and ultimately i make the decision. i get very good advice from john. >> i don't know who is the other

people who are dovish. it didn't mike pompeo. >> i think privately the president is saying john bolton is trying to get me too a war. he is feeling some pressure points there in the sense of his team. people on the dovish side are now gone. people like rex tillerson, mike m mattis. >> it has that feel to it. if something were to happen in the persian gulf now, you would have to look carefully to make sure we hadn't provoked it or wasn't a miscalculation to use as a spring board for our bra greater conflict. it's dangerous at this point. the british foreign secretary said there could be a misc miscalculation by either side. >> said that in brussels right after meeting with pompeo.

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officially announcing his white house bid today. you have been following beto. he's acknowledging this is a reboot, isn't he? >> he is on the tactics of it. his message isn't changing here. he's talking about the same things i've heard him talk about in the town halls and the rallies and the other events i've covered. they recognize the grass roots retail style they have done so far is not going to be enough. they are not going to be able to draw the same kinds of attention in a 20 candidate field as they were able to do against running against ted cruz directly. now they are trying to respond to that.

they are putting it together in the rest of these early states with a field this big. if you're in that top ten, there's a difference from being in the bottom ten. they are fairly well situated to live off the land. he has to stay as part of that conversation. i think you're seeing ta reflected in the media strategy that's changing as the campaign shifts into a different season. >> indeed. joe biden today, you've been tracking him, he's responding today in a gaggle to the press about rudy giuliani first wanting to go to ukraine, floating this whole issue what we believe is an unsubstantiated interest. putting the story out there so everybody talks about there and saying he will cancel it that it

became so toxic that even the president had to distance himself from it. this is biden's response. >> rudy giuliani. it's hard for me to comment on rudy giuliani. i don't think i will because my irish may come up. it is a personal attack. i expect that from rudy giuliani and the president. it's not been one ounce of evidence that my son interfered and i got involved in anything other than doing the job i was supposed to do. i'm proud of him. i think it's the way these guys play. >> what sparked his decision to speak out now? >> well the fact he's taking questions from reporters, something he's been more comfortable doing more of late. it's interesting in terms of his relationship between joe biden and rudy giuliani, i can't help

but remember the 2008 primaries when joe biden was last a candidate. remember he shown through in the debate performances. one of those famous moments when asked a question about rudy giuliani who was then a candidate for president on the republican side and remember his famous response. the only thing we hear from rudy giuliani is a noun, a verb and 9/11. you get there's a bit of personal animosity between rudy giuliani and the vice president. it's something he will be weary to respond to. no one has drawn a link between joe biden's conduct as vice president and what his son was doing as a member of a board that was under investigation. in fact, the vice president feeling the way this issue has come up is helping them in some ways. they know that the vice president's son and his business dealings would become an issue at some point. the way that rudy giuliani was doing this, so clearly, raising

some ethical, legal issues in the way he was talk about intervening to do this has helped rally democrats, rally people to the defense of joe biden. >> it's interesting to see the aides feel more comfortable letting him interact with all of you on the road because he's been so reluctant to do anything as they ramped up and fearful hehe was unpracticed at campaigning and been out of action for a while and might make a biden gaffe. i want to ask about elizabeth warren deciding not to accept an invitation to do a fox town hall. that's where a lot of voters are. that's where a will the of viewers are. why not go into the enemy camp and try to win? >> she's saying she thought that network was really problem gapa things she didn't agree with.

that has to be contrasted with bernie sanders who did do a town hall and the president was worried about him going to town hall. he tweeted about the fact he got a big audience. it had the president questioning why fox news had bernie sanders on there. i think elizabeth warren is banking on the idea that people will say i like the fact she's standing up for her beliefs and doesn't want to go on fox news. fox news is the biggest audience in the country on cable news. there's really a missed opportunity there in terms of reaching people. i think she's really setting herself up to say, i don't like fox news. i'm not going to have any qualms about him and people should take it for what it is which is stance that some people will find brave on her part.

>> then we have the new candidate steve bullock. what does he bring to the table that other joe biden, other white guys who are more moderate on a will the of policies, don't bring? >> he's won on his own more recently than joe biden has. trump ran away with montana. that was a 20-point win for trump. on paper, bullock brings a pretty competitive resume. he was popular of a red state. she's a westerner for folks that like the outside the beltway new voice. he will have the same problem so many of the other candidates do which is how do you breakthrough in the field. people are not settling down on candidates.

bullock like john hickenlooper had a hard time getting purchased. he's have to raise some money quite quickly and get some name recognition to get onto the debate stage. >> we'll have to leave it there. thank you all. ahead, teaming up. bernie sanders and alexandria ocasio-cortez headlining a rally to promote the green new deal. stay with us. deal. stay wh itus behr presents: outdone yourself. staining be done... and stay done through every season. behr semi-transparent stain, overall #1 rated. stay done for years to come. find it exclusively at the home depot.

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waiting for specifics. sanders spoke to nbc savannah about the critical fight ahead. >> the challenges we're going to have to take on on the greed and stupidity of the fossil fuel industry. that's not beginning to be easy. what i'm going to say to these young people is we need a political revolution. >> joining me now for the inside school is savannah sellers. host of nbc stay tuned on snapchat. you were at howard university for this teaming up. what are they trying to accomplish here? one running for president, the most national figure elected this year. >> hi. bernie said he was here as senator sanders and not the candidate. they are trying to push this green new deal.

there are not a lot of specifics out there on how to do that. i asked how much that would cost and he could not commit to a number. in this auditorium, there were 1500 people in there. it was packed. huge cheers and huge boos for everything that has to do with that middle ground reported policy that biden talked about. they actually unveiled hashtag change the debate which will include watch parties for the june debate and miami and a physical presence for the july debate in detroit. they plan to pressure candidates to meet with them and they want them to commit to the green new deal on day one. they want them to commit to a climate focus debate and pledge they will not accept any fossil fuel money. >> one of the youngest democrats teaming up with the oldest democratic presidential candidate. you have both ends of the generation gap and joe biden

responded to aoc's criticism that he was too mitdddle of the road. >> never heard me say middle of the road. i've nef bever been middle of t road on the environment. i'd tell her to check the statement i made and look at my record. she'll find that nobody is more consistent about taking on the environment and the green revolution than i have. this is going to be a new road show. is she going to come to our debate in miami as well when the debate takes place? >> we did hear they are planning to team up on a couple other things. this tour, the green new deal tour did take place across the country and we just saw last week that senator sanders decided to join ahead of this event. we'll see what happens and we'll see how much he does want to detail what he would say or

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30 years ago, five black and latino teenagers were accused of raping a white woman in central park. they became known as the central park five. donald trump placed full page ads calling for the death penalty. he never apologized even after their sentences were vacated based on dna evidence indicating they were innocent. a new netflix miniseries is now stirring emotions once again. now men in their 40s, the five spoke with nbc's lester holt about why time does not always heal all wounds. >> reporter: the men known as the central park five and director ava duvernay.

>> i have never seen the five of you. >> reporter: reconnecting in new york at the end of an emotional journey together turning a real story of stolen youth and wrongful conviction into a dramatic netflix series called "when they see us." >> they saw you rape -- >> by political forces, and it really takes away their personal power. when they see, it humanizes them. >> police will miss us though. they're not playing. they're not. >> reporter: before a white female jogger was beaten and raped in 1989, they were just five teenagers from harlem. youssef salam, antwaun, corey wise and raymond santana, but soon after the horrific crime,

they were arrested and quickly branded the central park five. >> this whole process was surreal just to see, like, our life story portrayed and it still be relevant 30 years later. >> is my mom here? >> it's just us. you and us. >> reporter: convicted on what they always maintained were coerced confessions, each was sentenced to years behind bars. >> corey, what was it like for you to watch those scenes of your incarceration? was it difficult? >> it was. it was. it was. still is, but it was. >> reporter: their convictions were vacated in 2002 after another man confessed to the attack. his dna, a match. the central park five were awarded $41 million in a settlement with the city of new york. >> we didn't get an apology. all the time we did for something we didn't do, and it hurts. >> we have this indelible scar

of, oh, that's kevin richardson, the guy from the central park jogger case. >> nothing make that is right. >> nothing. >> and it's 30 years later, and we are the proof that when you damage kids as young as 14, 15 and 16 years old for a period of 14 1/2 years, right, and beyond, how do you fix that? >> reporter: their story now a passion project for this celebrated director. >> so i really wanted to show how it comes dealing with being a citizen and how this was put upon these boys for a crime they didn't commit. >> reporter: and for the men who lived it, validation. >> a series like this paints the picture of what it is like to be a person of color in america. for what we went through, and what it represents for the rest of the world is tremendous. >> the netflix series is about their story. nbc news reached out to the

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and jimmy carter, the 94-year-old former president is recovering happily, at least from a hip surgery after falling while getting ready to go turkey hunting. the carter center says the former president's main concern is that he had not reached his limit on turkeys for the year, asking for some concessions. he discovered the limits of presidential authority though. the georgia wildlife resources division said, we limit all turkey hunters to only three gobblers every year, and that

does not permit any rollover, even for a former president. we wish you well, mr. president. you will be back at it very soon. that does it for us. remember, follow the show online, on facebook and at twitter @minutchellreports and here is "velshi and ruhle." it is tuesday, may 14th. let's get smarter. the secretary of state mike pomp pompeo, meeting with russia's leaders. >> we received that there are certain suspicions and prejudice on both sides, but this is not a way for a win-win situation because that mistrust that we have hinders both your security and our security. >> i'm here today because president trump is committed to improving this relationship. each country will protect its own interests, look out for its own interest of its people, but we're not