you can catch me on social media. let me know what you think and i'll get back to you. i turn it over to reverend al sharpton and politics nation. good evening and welcome to politics nation. tonight's lead, it hurts when it comes from your own people. president trump insists he's not fa phased by the shot from michigan congressman. the first republican to say that the president has engaged in quote, impeachable conduct. to prove it, there was his response on twitter this morning. calling him quote, a total lightweight of whom he was quote never a fan. diplomatically adding that justin is a loser.

he said he reached his conclusions from the redacted mueller report which his cast as misrepresented by attorney general william barr's four page summary last month. for republicans on talk shows this morning, the criticisms is nothing to look at since he's criticized president trump before. also this morning democrats saying the defection is a sign of what's to come as talk of an impeachment enqui impeachment inquiry picks up steam. >> speaker pelosi has been saying this needs to be bipartisan if it's going to move forward. i think justin coming on board means that there is now bipartisan support for really understanding the seriousness of what is in the mueller report.

>> joining me christina greer and in a moment we'll be joined by joe watkins former white house aide under president george h.w. bush. christina, your reaction to this defection by a republican saying that there are impeachable things here and that william barr misrepresented the report in his four page summation. >> we know william barr misrepresented the 400 page report because he wrote a 19-page summary for the president before the report came out. i think the democrats are going to need more defections before when nancy pelosi says she wants bipartisan processes the move forward, they will need more than one or two republicans saying a few thisay ing a few things. whether republicans have a backbone and realize for the

good or the country and the longevity of their party, they will need to step up to this president and the insids yous corruption that's going on in this administration. if they respect their agenda and seeing this overreach on the state level and federal, hopefully some of them will have the courage to say, it's time for us to actually represent our party and our nation and not the president. >> when you say represent our nation, we also talking about an overreach in where it really de defying, the trump administration, the co-equals branches of government saying we're not going to respect any subpoenas, witnesses, documents, tax returns. it is deeper than just one or two items that could be partisan bickering. we're talking about how the legislative judicial and

executive branch are supposed to be co-equal and saying you can't check us when checks and balances are fundamental to how this country was established. >> it's laid out for people who want to read about what the framers intended. the branches of government, we start the constitution with the legislative branches. they intended for congress to be equal with the president but to still be a pillar to understand that we are not electing a king. we're not electing a dictator. these people are to do their jobs to represent the constitution and the united states. citizens in the best of their ability to make sure there's no overreach. as i've said before on this network, george washington in 1796, warned us about the influence of foreign powers which we're seeing now. the second part of that address is really helping the country recognize that we cannot have a

party system that sort of you care more about the party than the good of the nation. parties are never once mentioned in the constitution but george washington saw this hyper partisanship emerging and really feared we would be in this very moment we're in right now. >> joe watkins, you're a republican. does this begin to give any crack in this whole seemingly impenetratable loyalty of our republicans to president trump around specifically first the mueller report. he called out the attorney general saying the four page summation of the 400 page report was misleading. >> the congressman was being very honest. maybe in time there will be honest who will realize what's important is the country.

putting the country first and doesn't pay attention to political parties. if the country will be as great as we want it to be, it's got to work for everybody. the constitution has to stand for everybody. >> when people say that people are not talking about it, it won't affect the election and polls do indicate some truth to that. have we cheapened what the congress and the senate and the president supposed to stand for to where now if it doesn't poll or if it's not politically expedient, it doesn't matter even if it speaks to the very fundamentals that the country supposed to be about. >> it's supposed to matter. it's good that this congressman is standing up to be heard and to be seen and maybe he'll be an example to others in the republican party and to people

in democratic party too. what you do is you do what's right. the law applies to everybody. the rule of law applies to everybody. the attorney general and anybody else is not above the law. >> that's why you have checks and balances. going back to your lesson to me on the founding fathers and the first president, the thing that also comes to mind here is when the congress raises the question to the treasury secretary and says we want to see the tax returns, it's not just about gossip or whether he's really oo billionaire or not, many people, yours truly, could care less. it's whether he has conflicts of interest in terms of doing business in income that could affect judgment that could affect national security of the yiet. that -- united states.

that's the reason the tax returns ought to be examined. when you have only one bank that will lend him money. all these other bankings institutions will not lend money, where did you get money from and what do you owe for that? if there's nothing there then why don't you just disclose it and close the door on that speculation. >> i think what's really skillful about this president is his use of the fourth branch of government, which is the media. he's the hero to his supporters but also the victim simultaneously. he's constantly saying none of this stuff is true. these democrats just keep picking on me. we see this constant whining and berating democrats simultaneously on twitter and in the media but making sure he's controlling the message. the media is doing a great job of trying to figure out all these different illegal ways that the president is weakening the institution of the pr

presiden presidency. it's so much since he was inaugurated the president can frame it to his supposer suppors something new every day. it's like no, it's something new every day because you're just that corrupt. they are just falling in line with the president. >> it's something every day because you will not answer the questions. i don't think any of this would have be prolonged if they had allowed witnesses to come forward, including white house counsel mcgahn and robert mueller and if they had given the tax returns. he is stretching it out by making everything a fight, joe. let me ask you as one that worked in the bush administration. is it at all embarrassing to republicans that none of them have really come out other than amash and said wait a minute, the country's honor and the way we govern is at stake here. let's stop this nonsense.

how do you call yourself a patriot and undermine the very principles you say the country was founded on? >> i agree. the president's finances ought to be an open book for all the reasons we said. whoever the president is whether it's man or woman or republican or democrat, somebody young or old, the country deserves know. it's helpful for us to know and we ought to know it. nobody should be above the law. more republicans need to stand up and say what they feel is right and true. unfortunately, the challenge for republicans is that they're more concerned about saving their -- winning their district, winning re-election in the upcoming cycle. nobody wants to be targeted because they spoke out against the president or against anybody else. it's a matter of staying in line. ? they should stand up and be heard. just tell the truth.

that's ha people elected to do. it's supposed the be public service. stand the truth and do what's right. >> i think that's what's complicated about this president. he does not have a history of public -- capacity. >> he wanted the president of the united states that proceeded him to produce a birth certificate but he won't produce his taxes. how do you rationalize that. i don't believe you're an american, give me your birth certificate. it was valid and humiliating to go there. i want your birth certificate but i'm not giving you my tax returns and i've had dealings with adversarial nations. he was dealing with russia. how do you get away with that in republicans don't call him out on that. >> i think that's the piece we're dealing with a president with no shame and many republicans are showing they have very little shame as well either. >> this is so embarrassing for a

party to allow themselves just because they want to get re-elected because most republicans are in districts that are single party districts in the since their primary is the main election. >> it's the trump party now. more later in the show. in recent weeks a number of states have passed increasingly strict abortion laws. after the break, we'll talk with the president of planned parenthood about these new legal challenges the organize is facing. legal challenges the organize is facing i'm missing out on our family outings because i can't find a bladder leakage product that fits. everything was too loose. but depend® fit-flex feels tailored to me. with a range of sizes for all body types. depend® fit-flex underwear is guaranteed to be your best fit.

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there was missouri and days before that alabama and a week before that, georgia. as the weeks go on, a hand full of red states are passing extremely narrow abortion laws. laws that vary by state but basically say, that women can't have abortions once a fetal heartbeat is detected or after the 6 to 8 week pregnancy mark. regardless of rape or incest. these laws are being heavily contested by pro-abortion activists groups as they are likely to end up on the bok doc of the supreme court.

when we look at the several red states that are now coming on and some of them really draconian laws, what do you and plann planned parenthood feel we are looking at in terms of this all of a sudden rush by state legislatures in red states to come with these real harsh laws on abortion? >> reverend, thank you for highlighting just how extreme these bans are. the law in alabama that was just signed by the governor last week would ban abortion at any time in pregnancy. it's the most restricted since roe versus wade was passed. it would criminalize doctors for up to 99 years in jail. no exception for race or incest and put the doctor that's performing abortion care, which is health care in for jail longer than the rapist.

make no mistake that this is part of a koords nate coordinato have one objective which is to ban all safe, legal abortion and the consequence is women's health. alabama, missouri, georgia have some of the worth health out comes for women already in the country. alabama, highest rate of cervical cancer. missouri, a thousands percent increase in syphilis. these politicians should not be calling themselves pro-life when they are doing everything they can to take away access to health care for women and families in their own states. we'll get into whether or not that is intention to get to the

supreme court to undermine that. we're talking about really stopping legal abortions and forcing women to go as they had to go when i was a kid to illegal means which is a threat to their health and leads to all kinds of new and distasteful and ugly consequences. >> banning safe, legal abortions is not going to stop abortions. it will stop safe, legal abortions. before roe versus wade thousands of women died every year in the united states. we have to look no further than the rest of the world where 30,000 women die every year around the world because they don't have access to safe legal abortion. as a doctor, i just cannot stand for that. planned parenthood will not stand for this.

we will be filing lawsuits together with our partners to make sure that these unconstitutional and harmful laws never go into effect and we know that the american people are with us. 7 in 10 people support roe versus wade and they understand the consequence is to women's health. that's why women across the country and together with men and all people will be rising up and on tuesday we have a day of action. a national day of action to stop the bans in communities around the country and we hope that every one joins us. >> this is this coming tuesday as in the day after tomorrow nationwide. let me show you this. president trump tweeted today about the subject saying quote, i'm strongly pro-life with the exceptions of rape, insist and protecting the life of the mother. the same position taken by ronald reagan.

first of all, that would mean he couldn't support the alabama law because they don't rule any of that as a reason to justify abortion. you have a pro-life president whose appointed two members to the supreme court. is it your fear that the strategy is to push this to the supreme court and ultimately rescind or alter roe versus wade. >> that's what the politicians have said themselves. they said themselves that their goal is to have these laws make it all the way up to the supreme court so roe could be over turned. if it is over turned then one in three women of reproductive age which is 25 million women would be living in states where abortion is banned and criticalized. i want to say to president trump too, if that's really what you think, first of all, i would reject the notion that you are

somehow pro-life when so many of the policies that you have advocated for take away people's life and liberty and freedom but if that's really what you believe then where were you? were you calling the governor of alabama? were you calling the legislat e legislatures in missouri who just voted to restrict abortion with no exceptions even for rape or incest? women will die on your watch president trump. >> that is a question that clearly if he tweets that, did he call the republican governor of alabama or missouri and the other question comes to mind, you even have reverend pat robertson who is to the right of saying alabama went too far. i don't know that people understand, which is why tuesday's march is part of raising continuing public awareness. is the real draconian, drastic

things that this legislation is saying in alabama in missouri? >> what all these bans have in common other than them prompting a challenge to roe which will cost women's lives is that they're about control. they're about power. that's why women in the country are paying attention. women are outraged. we know who are these people, these politicians who think they can make better decisions for us about our health and our bodies than we can. we have to pay attention to who they are and we will be fighting them every step of the way. starts now and on tuesday women and our allies all across this country, anyone who believes in health care, anyone who believes our children should have more rights and now fewer rights. we will be rising up all around the country and holding to task, president trump and all his allies who oppose women's health

and rights. >> do you expect even some republican women, independent women who may have voted for president trump to be part of this push back on the state legislation and the move toward the supreme court to really reverse roe versus wade? >> absolutely. 52% of republican support roe versus wade as the law of the land. actually, what we stand for are core american values. it means we're pro-child, pro-family, pro-choice, profreedom. >> i think that people do not understand we are talking about people's lives. the mother's, the women that we are talking about here.

people were getting unsafe abortions and losing their lives. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. coming up, the killing of eric garner was not a big deal. i'll explain, next. g deal i'll explain, next

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to hear that officer say today when he got the call that eric was probably deceased and said no big deal. >> shame. disgusting. >> no big deal. if one of your loved ones or one of his loved ones was on the ground dead and someone come up to you and say it's no big deal. >> no big deal. gwen carr lost her son five years ago when he was choked to death by a police officer using a move banned by more than a quarter of a century ago. his crime, illegally selling

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not a big deal. adding we will affecting a lawful arrest. people raised the question to me in the last five years why do we march? why do we rally? why are you out there asking for justice? because you have commanding officers saying that the death of an unarmed person at the hands of a policeman is not a big deal then good people, people of conscious need to make it a big deal. marches do not solve problems but they make a big deal out of problems and lead to the solutions. we can never sit back and act like this kind of behavior is not a big deal. policeman must be accountable like every one else. when people die, for questionable or no reason, it's a big deal and when commanders don't think it is, then we must make it a big deal.

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you're looking at a live shot of a rally for senator bernie sanders in birmingham, alabama. it's part of the senator's effort on the campaign trail right now to visit key southern states thumping in those small part for the black vote. the senator stumbled with black voters in 2016. he now knows that the only path to winning any of the southern

states go through african-americans as they make up the largest block of the democratic base. what does he have to offer this time around? let's ask congressman who is a democrat of california. congressman, in 2016, senator sanders was very much behind his opponent, secretary clinton with the black vote. over the last two years, i said when he addressed convention in april, he has aggressively gone into black areas addressing black issues. what is he saying and what is his strategy and background that he's going to put out that he did not say and do in 2016? >> reverend, he's going to speak

explicitly about the inequality based on race and how his plans will address that. for example, he has launched the th thurgood marshal plan for equity and education. the average black student gets $1800 less in investment in schools than the average white student. here is why that matters. i was talking with young black student who is were pursuing engineering. they say there are only 33% of african-american students, black student who is get calculus in their high schools. bernie sanders will invest billions of dollars in these primary sdochools not related t property tax to deal with that wealth gap. >> he's had to deal with a less than clear position on reparations as well as he's had to explain his voting for the 94 crime bill that did lead to the incarceration, disproportiona

disproportionately in the black community. how does he deal with these two issues that are problematic to him with many black voters? >> i'm on john conyers bill to create a reparations. i think the senator has clarified if he was president he would call for commission to deal with reparations. he's also talking concretely about how you deal with historical racism. he's endorsed the plan to have massive investment going to african-american communities. he's talking about massive investment in historically black communities at colleges and making sure that that is an investment we're making. he's talked about playing teachers a fair wage and understanding that will help kids in black school districts. on the crime bill i think he regrets his vote on that. he is speaking about dealing on

mass incarceration and how he overcome that by not having as many convictions for drug offenses and i think he is got a policy of restorative justice. >> one of the things that i think is important about what he is doing this time around as well as senator elizabeth warren for that matter is it's been a long complaint of people like me that a lot of those that call themselves progressive have not been as progressive on the issue of race. they are very clear on the class gap and the wealth gap but not the race gip because blacks are and many cases brown are impacted differently even on class issues and wealth issues. i think by their being leading progressives and senator sanders showing that with the tremendous vote he got in 16, even though he didn't win the nomination is to say to progressive wait a

minute we cannot exclusive while we fight other issues and call ourselves because this whole kind of loose style of speaking about just class and not race does not solve the problem or even address it in many communities. >> you're right. it's not the proof, obviously race remains a huge issue, the reality is race influences police violence. it influences issues of mass incarceration. african-americans are far more likely to have an arrest record or in jail than people who are caucasi caucasian. race influences the wealth gap. in schools we still have

troubles that will seg agrregat. africans don't have the same things. the senator has always recognized this. he was arrested back in the civil rights movement. he's now speaking out more forcefully, more boldly explicitly as race remains a huge issue. >> in this era of trump where he's operated in an us against them kind of context in terms of social construct, it's even more important that we clearly deal with this issue of race because we're dealing with a president that not have people on both sides when they were mash ching with clear anti-se mettic slogans but they were on their way to stand up for keeping up a

statute of a confederate general who led an army to maintain slavery in this country and slavery was based on race. >> you're right. the president is glorified andrew jackson who led the trail of tears against knave it americans and he's held up confederate leaders who helped to perpetuate the system of slavery. we need to understand the incidents of hate have increased since his presidency. he's dismantled institutions that were tasked of going after hate crimes. we need to restore that funding. we need to look at technology platforms and ask them to do more to go after some of the hate speech and violent and the type of minority suppression on those platforms.

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this coming tuesday organizers plan to lead tens of,000 sapdof thousands of women in protest against a new wave of draconian abortion law. more than 100 federal judges and counting plus two supreme court justices who will now try to overturn roe versus wade once and for all. back with me, christina greer and joe watkins. joe, is the plan to over through roe versus wade or in some way

alter in and dilute its bite? >> i think maybe for some republicans both. one or the other. those will probably be the top two for some republicans. for other republicans they believe women ought to be in charge of their own bodies. just as men are in charge of their bodies. for other republicans that's not the case. that's not the plan. >> given the polling on this most americans are clearly not supporting this. are they just tone deaf, christina or just so adamant in their view that they are going to force their will and going to go and fight this? when you see alabama, missouri, ohio and other states -- georgia, and other states doing it, it seems like they just don't care. >> no. they don't. i think the work that the national institute for

reproductive health is doing is key and crucial for us to going on at the state house level who are really trying to change laws in state houses across the country. we're seeing it now. it's very shocking. we have to understand this is part of a larger republican agenda to make sure that they take away as many rights to women but also like we have to recognize they are afraid of looming 2040 and latinos becoming the number one racial group in the united states. this is on the local level certain electeds telling white women they have a duty to reproduce. it's mapart of a much larger stephen miller. >> joe, talking about the larger agenda, are we look at them slopely going toward a states rights agenda where the supreme court can come back and say these are things that we want to

maintain in roe versus wade but states can decide these things. as we see women's rights possibly going into a state's right kind of construct, next will be voting rights rights. are we moving back toward not having a strong federal government overseeing things like protecting peoples' rights? >> i hope that that's not the case. but that certainly is the hope of some people to move toward a states' rites agenda. i would hope we're still in a mode where the central government is the most important and the most powerful and that you aren't passing on to states the right to do what they want to do when they want to do it because that's when there's all kinds of opportunity for bad things to take place. for some people that's the agenda sadly. >> christina, you're our professor teaching us all this history. when we don't have the strong federal government enforcing rights, that is the threat to everything. we would have never had the

civil rights. >> civil rights act, voting rights act, immigration acts. i see that as acts that lyndon johnson helped push forward. in the 60s we looked to the federal government for protection. >> brown versus board of education. >> right. but now there's a reversal. if you look at the national institution for reproductive health, they're looking at massachusetts, new york, to shore up abortion rights for women. they're looking at a state level strategy because there is this fear of a federal man date coming into play where we're taking rights away from women. so, in many ways it'll be curious to see not just on abortion rights but on civil rights and immigration and voting rights as well are we going to look to certain states, blue states -- even though every state is a red state with blue cities -- states that can protect us from the government as they try to roll back so many

hard-fought provisions that do promote equity and democracy and decency in america. >> your political strategist hat -- i know it's sunday and you're a preacher like i am. but put on your political strategy gist hat. will these attacks on womens' rights cost politically republicans in the next election? because there is definitely people that are independent, women and men, and i would say we have dr. whin on from planned parenthood. there are those that will say even in those areas of voters that wait a minute, this is something that's gone too far. >> yeah, even you have some very conservative christian preachers like pat robertson and others who said this goes too far. there's a price to be paid for it. there are consequences for everything you do in this life and certainly political consequences for everything you dos in luf. for those who are pushing that

kind of agenda, there's a price to be paid for it. that's not all republicans. i like a governor like charlie baker in massachusetts for whom my daughter worked by the way, who i think is doing a great job. just got reelected to a second term and is somebody who is not partisan but is just about how do we serve people the best way ecowith. that's a republican that i like. that's the kind of person that i like. >> but we've not seen, christina, republican leader come out and just forthright say this is wrong and take the stage and become the face of republicans saying i'm a republican but this is wrong and we cannot start eroding women's rights. >> i've called republicans sycophants. they've been millimouthed on issue after issue. there are women who can uphold patriarchy in ways we can't imagine. the architect of an alabama bill, a woman and the governor who signed it into legislation, a woman. lots of pundits are saying women

will backlash against the republican party for these policies. there are a lot of white women who voted for kemp, a lot of white women who voted for donald trump, a lot of white women who are upholding key issues that are adversarial to their live livelihood. >> which is why you need to make these issues clear to people what's at stake. let me thank you both. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. with us slow turkey. along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting so when the day arrives, you'll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. stop chantix and get help right away if you have changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions, seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking,

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in atlanta today morehouse college graduates walked away with their diplomas and a surprise. >> this is my aclass, 2019, and my family is making a grant to eliminate their student loans. >> investor robert smith served as the commencement speaker this year for the all-male historically black college. the donation is expected to total about $40 million for the class of 400 seniors. and those of us that know robert smith know that he's been a f n philanthropist. he supports various civil rights groups and other groups chairs, carnegie hall board and other things, supported what we do with technology. but this statement was huge

because it underscored the student debt that a lot of young people incur well into their mid-life years. and it also underscored those that make it have a responsibility of helping those that are wanting to make it that just needs a little help like he showed today. it was a giant gesture from a giant, not because he's a billionaire, but because you're really not a giant person unless somebody a little shorter than you can look up to you and say "i'm looking up at a giant." and that was what happened at moth morehouse in this gesture. that does it for me. up next "meet the press" with chuck todd.

>> this sunday, the democrats new reality, as the field of candidates grows, look who's sitting at the top of the polls. >> the single most important thing is defeat donald trump. >> establishment joe biden who has surged past the early progressive favorites. >> with your help, we're going to win the democratic primary. >> we need big structural change in 2020. >> the perception he's best position to defeat president trump. i'll speak with bernie sanders of vermont. plus abortion battle, a growing number