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with congress. what just happened in the president's fight to keep his financial records from being handed over to democrats. big decision, the questions about whether hope hicks will comply with a congressional subpoena and weather warnings after a brutal week. new storms threaten to derail memorial day weekends across parts of the country. new this morning, the president kicking off a four day visit to japan for the first time since 2014. addressing leaders in tokyo before heading in for the night. meanwhile, back at home, the president's long sought border wall now facing a new set back. a federal judge in california blocking president trump from using defense department funds secured under his national emergency declaration to build parts of his u.s.-mexico border wall. and the battle between the president and house democrats
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intensifying as calls to start impeachment proceedings grow. representative steve cohen revealing how many of his colleagues are in support. >> more and more people have come up to me and said what can we do? and so, you know -- >> what do you think? >> 30? 40? >> something like that probably. >> more than 40? >> give or take 40. >> but democrats aren't getting the same support from the senate. according to hill they want him to tamp down their senate talk. it's hurting more than helping their efforts to win back the majority. the intelligence community pledging to cooperate after bill barr was given sweeping powers to investigate the white house's spying claims during the election. but john brennan sending a warning over the growing concerns of possible secrets being exposed and intelligence
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politicized. >> i emotions ploer others to and the up to this unprecedented act on the part of mr. trump that doesn't understand or care about the security concerns of the intelligence community. >> and facebook now responding to the manipulated videos of house speaker nancy pelosi that made it seem like she was slurring her words. the social media giant acknowledging it was fake but is refusing to delete it. >> anybody that's seen this video in news feed and anyone that is going to share it to somebody else, anybody that has shared it in the past, they're being alerted that this video is false and this is part of the way that we deal with misinformation. it's important for people to make their own informed choice about what to believe.
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gentlemen, good morning to you both. john you first here so this video which the president also tweeted an edited version of, that was the latest jab in the series of back and forth between the president and the speaker this week. pelosi called for an intervention to save the nation from the president. the president said she is crazy. so what is going on here. what is the intent of all the back and forth? >> i think that pelosi is in some ways trying to rally democrats together and maybe distract from the impeachment talks. as we have seen from pelosi over recent weeks she is fairly reluctant to move toward impeachment. she is also fairly reluctant -- she doesn't want to appear too political as impeachment at this point almost seems inevitable. this is a lot of drama and political theater and by taking this dramatic and entertaining stance against the president she
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distracks from the impeachment talks and makes it more about her battle with the president. >> what do you think is the calculation here and how unusual is this reaction with speaker pelosi that's very careful with her words. she knows how her words can make a difference. >> she knows. >> i think she would rather be locked in a feud with president trump than with the base of her own party. she doesn't want to be taking on the democratic socialists. she wants to be taking on republicans and that's why this is a smart political calculation from the democratic standpoint. stick with the devil you know. that's what republicans are saying. that's what democrats are saying because for the president he would rather been fighting with
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democrats. >> you have to work together. what about this dramatic blow up at the white house where the president walked out of a meeting demanding an end to congressional investigations. before he's going to work with congress on infrastructure or anything else for that matter. what happens? how does the president get to working with democrats on serious must pass tasks? >> that's the elephant in the room here. we need to also see the fact that impeachment is not a particularly popular idea with voters. polls have shown americans aren't enthusiastic about impeachment and they would rather see congress focus on issues like infrastructure. trump not working with congress probably isn't particularly popular with voters either. this is not what the american people want to see from the president or congress.
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so it's bringing washington to a stand still. >> it may not be what voters want to see at this point. the talk of impeachment is growing as is the list of democrats supporting it. where do we stand on this matter? do you think it's something as being weighed heavily on a political faction as posed to a principled faction? where does that lie? >> respectfully to my buddy john at business insider i kind of disagree because i think that essentially more than anything americans around the country want to see washington working. even before talk of impeachment. they want to see congress working in either party. that's point number one. point number two, in regards to impeachment, i interviewed sheila lee. she is pushing for there to be an investigation in order to have a piece mill approach.
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i'm paraphrasing but you have to look at this once at a time. she has support of that. that's an argument that the speaker's office makes as well and third and finally and i don't want this to get lost because we're absolutely correct that folks want to see bipartisanship and get things done on infrastructure and whatnot but there are some areas that have emerged. i interviewed senator mark warner. a democrat from virginia. chris from delaware and they were backing him and u.s. policy with regard to the president's executive orders against chinese telecommunications giants so there are aspects of these trade policies and aspects of foreign policies where there is bipartisanship consensus.
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i don't think there is the political clout to get a major package through like we saw with criminal justice reform and i think that to be candid i don't think there's any incentive for either side in the election year to be working with each other on infrastructure. >> let's get to bill barr. here's what the president had to say about the attorney general yesterday. >> mr. president, why should people trust the attorney general to select what is declassified? >> the attorney general is one of the most respected people in this country and he has been for a long period of time. he's going to look at a lot of documents. some he might find interesting and some not interesting. people have asked me to declassify so what i have done is declassified everything.
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>> i don't want him to be for me or for anybody else. i want him to be fair and that's what he is. >> this is all about what happened and when did it happen? this was an attempted take down of the president of the united states. >> take down of him personally of course. >> did he make the convincing argument that barr is not there to support him. >> i think what we have seen is that he's working as the president's personal attorney rather than the attorney general. there's widespread concerns that these new powers that trump granted barr will allow him to cherry pick intelligence that will support this baseless narrative that the russia investigation was a witch hunt and other experts are concerned that it will also reveal things about sources and methods that could be damaging to current and
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fau to future operations. >> the fact is that the intelligence community, as it investigates itself, they have a legal mandate to protect those that could be vulnerable by exposure. >> precisely. this is why this is problematic for many republicans on capitol hill that have long standing relationship with many of these folks that the president has criticized. to john's point, you see that in terms of the skepticism when you talk to senior staffers of some of these republican members privately in the halls of congress and they are a bit uneasy about this. when you look at polls there's a
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deep skepticism. and it moves beyond that. it's completely been a fight that the president is not only provoking but one that he wants to have because he feels it will help him politically. >> thank you guys so much. enjoy your weekend. >> happy memorial day. >> thank you. >> how an obscure figure from the mueller report could respond to a subpoena from the house judiciary committee. a from the e judiciary committee. and a dressing fit for a goddess. come taste what a salad should be. and with panera catering, there's more to go around. panera. food as it should be. on a john deere x300 series mower. because seasons change but true character doesn't. wow, you've outdone yourself this time. hey, what're neighbors for? it's beautiful. run with us.
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new subpoenas this week. hope hicks and the former chief of staff to don mcgahn annie donaldson are being asked to testify and turnover documents. they include michael flynn, trump's talks with james comey, pardons as well as hush money payments. joining me once again for this hour, danny, let's get to this one as the president says he is going to fight all the subpoenas. but how do you see this playing out? and could there be legal consequences with the house if those that have been subpoenaed do not cooperate? >> yes. if they don't cooperate the house has one of several options. criminal contempt. they can file a civil lawsuit and they even have this inherent contempt power.
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they haven't used it since the 1930s but they can send the sergeant of arms out to arrest the person and bring that person in. the reality is our constitution gives congress broad investigative power and subpoena power but very little enforcement power. it relies on the other branches to enforce those subpoenas. so if hicks and donaldson decide not to show up then congress has a challenge in actually enforcing those subpoenas which is why we see so often congress working out the subpoenas with the party as opposed to taking such harsh measures as criminal constitution. this is a world of compromise as opposed to the justice department whose subpoenas must be enforced with criminal consequences. >> if you were a criminal defense attorney representing the president when you look at congress's most important witness here, who is it? whose testimony should concern
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the president the most? >> probably hope hicks because hope hicks is someone that isn't as experienced as say donaldson or mcgahn in answering questions and she will be asked about questions that could have no privilege. what kind of things could she shine a light on that would be legally damaging to the president? >> this is a brilliant tactic. whenever you're subpoenaing people, the main person, like don mcgahn may have a privilege claim or something else but instead subpoena the secretary, subpoena the assistant, subpoena somebody that was preacceptability at everything but doesn't have so much criminal liability because they were more witnesses than participants. those are folks that you can bring different pressure points to bear against and thget them testify and get their cooperation because they don't have the same degree of loyalty
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or in some cases culpability that higher ups may have so they may be more willing to testify about what they saw and what they heard. >> and the president's finances, there's a former senior house counsel telling politico that the irs could be forced to release the president's tax returns by order sometime next year. so how long does a case like this get tied up in the legal system? how likely is it that we see his tax returns before the election because can't he continue to appeal? >> it's hard to say. the courts will give more priority to cases like this but at the same time the issues need to be briefed be and the judges know they have to decide this case very carefully and it will set a very important precedent in the future for similar type investigations. this will take time and should take time so that the judges can properly consider it both at the district court level and the
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appellate level and possibly the supreme court. >> always has the answers. thank you so much. new today the president is in tokyo kicking off a four day state visit with trade talks at its center. nbc chief house correspondent is also there in tokyo. so once again good to see you and good evening your time. set the scene for us there. >> sure, the president now returned to the hotel where he will spend the night because we're about 13 hours ahead of where you are in new york but when he landed in tokyo he was only off air force one for an hour or so when he delivered already a warning or a message saying he wants to get a more fair trade deal in his words with japan. keep in mind that this trip is less about the policies and more about the personalities. a white house official tells me tonight the president is focused on relationship building while he is overseas with the japanese leaders and even with that flight all the way across the
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pacific president trump cannot escape the many stories back home that threaten to overshadow his trip to tokyo. >> touching down near tokyo, president trump starting a state visit full of friendly diplomacy. >> we right now probably have the best relationship with japan that we have ever had and that goes back a long way but i don't think it's ever been better. >> after today's business talk, his holiday weekend will include a round of golf with the prime minister, a sumo match and the trip's highlight, a formal introduction to japan's new emperor. while the visit is mostly meant to reinforce the country's close relationship with the u.s., trade and north korea are also on the agenda as national security adviser john bolton for the first time now acknowledges the recent missile tests do violate u.n. resolutions. that's not the only foreign hot spot, the middle east is too. 1,500 more troops will be sent to the region escalating
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tensions with iran. the iranian foreign minister calls that very dangerous for international peace. >> we want to have protection. we're going to be sending a relatively small number of troops. mostly protective and some very talented people are going to the middle east right now and we'll see how and what happens. >> the president is at war with some democrats infuriated by his move to allow william barr full and complete authority to declassify documents from the russia investigation. it's a serious move after the long time push to investigate the investigators. >> i put it under the offices of the attorney general. he's going to be the judge of it. he's a great gentleman and a highly respected man. so they'll be able to see how
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the hoax or witch hunt started and how it started. >> that pitts the justice department against u. s. intelligence agencies that won't want sensitive sources or methods shared widely. >> this is all part of a pattern of politicizing our justice department instead of allowing justice to be done. >> of course while president trump is here he will be focused presumably less on that and what's period hahhing back at home and more on the centerpiece of his trip. the meeting of the new temperature error and empress in a very formal and visual ceremony set to happen. that will be after the sumo wrestling championship where president trump will award the trophy to the winner. it's called the president's cup. it's a big one. 4 feet tall, 60 plus pounds and has a big eagle on the top. >> isn't that supposed to be as popular if not more so than the super bowl in japan. >> oh, yeah. >> it's huge. >> and this is -- yeah. it's a huge cultural event in
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japan. the championship matches obviously are happening when the president is here but they have been going on to get up to this point and there's a lot of eyes on this. other world leaders in the past have taken a real interest in sumo wrestling and presented their own versions of these trophies so president trump is getting an opportunity to put his own twist on this. >> i hope you have a nice dinner. it's about that time for you there in tokyo. >> house speaker nancy pelosi and what this does to the chances of washington getting anything done. e chances of washington getting anything done. ♪ limu emu & doug
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now to the morning headlines. the president is in tokyo this morning kicking off a four day visit to japan. he'll hold talks with prime minister shinzo abe. this is the president's second trip to japan. the last visit was in november 2017. the missouri is the latest state to pass some tough new abortion restrictions. governor mike parson signed a law friday banning the procedure after 8 weeks of pregnancy. there are no exceptions for rape and incest. the only exception is for the medical emergency that risk the
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life of the pregnant woman. other states including ohio, georgia and mississippi also passed bills forbidding abortion when heart beat activity is detected. >> the great plains are facing new threats. many in the central u.s. are on alert for more dangerous storms since memorial day weekend. he is in the middle of all of it at jefferson city, missouri where the locals are still dealing with the destruction from wednesday's massive tornado. what are the latest threats in that area? >> well, alex, i can tell you that a tornado watch ended at midnight this morning but from the drenching rains to the destructive tornadoes, it's been just a brutal week for folks all across missouri and now as those in jefferson city face the shock of this naj stretching across their entire community they have a growing threat in the form of flooding. >> this morning after more than
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2008 report 200 reported tornadoes in a week millions looking to higher ground seeking refuge from a week's worth of rain pushing rivers to the brink. >> thousands evacuated in us tu to escape a angry river. a sub marine war memorial back in familiar territory after flood waters moved in. >> the key thing that's going to be common for all of us is neighbors taking care of neighbors. >> that same storm system turned violent in missouri where at least nine deaths have been reported. clean up is just now starting after an ef-3 tornado cut right through the state capital of jefferson city. the twister cut a 19 mile path of destruction leaving 20 injured and damage that it will take months to recover from. friday volunteers arrived in
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mass to help the community clean up. >> to have all of these people just alive rrive just to help y out. >> pretty cool, huh? >> not bad. >> not pad. >> pretty cool world we live in when people converge in one small area just to help. >> with multiple states in disaster mode a weekend filled with graduations and holiday trips is put on hold to see what mother nature brings next. >> we plan for the worst, hope for the best. >> planning for the worst after a week that's been more than rough. >> and as you can see that rain has returned. that recovery effort is going to be even made tougher. i can tell you that right now a city wide curfew has been put into effect from 5:00 a.m. until 9:00 p.m. until power can be restored to the entire city. >> extraordinary times there. let's go now to washington on edge. the feud between the president and house speaker nancy pelosi reaching a new level as their
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war of words gets personal. here's one of their exchanges that took place within a span of several hours on thursday. >> i said one time, who is in charge here because you agree and then all of a sudden something changes. >> i have been watching her for a long period of time. she is not the same person. she has lost it. now this time another temper tantrum. >> it was sad. >> the white house is crying out. >> i don't think anybody wants to be impeached chlts i don't think that any responsible assistant to the president of the united states would have advised him to do what he did yesterday. >> i'm a very capable person. we're going to see what happens. >> i wish his family or his administration or his staff would have an intervention for the good of the country. >> i haven't changed very much. i'm an extremely stable genius
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okay. >> joining me now, also the former executive director of emily's list and republican strategist that wrote for the department of homeland security during the trump administration. extremely stable genius. do you agree with that? why does he say those things? >> both sides, you remember it was a few short months where they had another spat like this where the administration cancelled the military aircraft for nancy pelosi over budget negotiations and the shutdown and the border and topics. this is an on going feud that just reached a new level of public consciousness and it's not very encouraging for any sort of legislation that's going to possibly happen between now and 2020. i think that they don't really recover from this and it's been a break down in talks between the two of them for a long time coming. >> do you think this is what we're in store for for the next 18 months? is there any chance of this deescalating?
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>> i'm not sure about a deescalation but in terms of it being a spat, we have -- the president of the united states is refusing to sit down for meetings. let's remember why speaker pelosi was over there. it was to talk about infrastructure. something that republicans and democrats agree on and want to get done and he refuses to sit down he does show a temper tantrum. imagine if we just refused to do the jobs we were hired to do. it's outrageous but in terms of getting things done that's going to depend on republicans. nancy pelosi is doing her job. they have been passing bill after bill, whether it's to protect health care and lower prescription drugs, reauthorization about violence against women and clie t mmate guns and disaster relief but it stops dead in the senate with mitch mcconnell and this president that doesn't want to move things forward.
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let's be clear about what's stopping them and that's republicans right now. >> you also have to wonder if the president is picking the fight with the wrong person because under a different democratic speaker impeachment proceedings might be underway. speaker pelosi is hitting the pause button at least for now, right? >> she is but she is doing so and the democrats need to make more of a case to the american public that they should move forward with impeachment beyond what the judiciary committee is experiencing. she told the judiciary committee herself this in meetings pointed out by this network and others earlier this week. so for her, it's more of a political calculus that impeachment will not be of benefit to the democratic party and could possibly harm them in the next election and she thinks she have a better case to move forward against this administration in the 2020 election whether that ends up being the case. i'm not sure.
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it's whether or not they actually move forward with the articles. >> i want to ask you, you can respond to it but pelosi for her part is always very strategic with her choice of words. she knows her words matter. she can't expect the president's family or aids to hold an intervention. why do you think she went there? is this part about the democrats that want to see the impeachment inquiry opened? they have confronted her about taking a harder line this week. is this political in some way? >> sure things are political but let's take what lauren said a step further because i think she's right but it goes a step further in terms of broadbase of support in america for impeachment. the real issue is the senate. the house would probably impeach president trump but again we have a senate that is in lock step with the president on everything. we talked about the policies that don't move forward but that would be true of impeachment as well and that's something that speaker pelosi is thinking about and she is here at the right
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time. this is the kind of experience that we need right now during this challenging time. c congress's job is to get to the truth and you certainly can't do that when you have a president that won't even sit down to talk about things. >> can i ask about these videos? the ones of pelosi being circulated that create the false appearance that she was publicly drunk and slurring her words. do republicans now think that fake videos are fair game? >> i don't think the republicans think that fake videos are a fair game. i would personally disagree with the use of these things but in the technology that we're experiencing with ai and other items coming out this is potentially going to be the new norm for campaigns and it's something that we as a country have to think about is how do we
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create good a.i. to combat these. this wasn't even a highly doctored video, right? and there's going to be a much higher quality that we're going to be experiencing in the 2020 election. some people argue that we should have education about some of these videos that the american public should make their own decision on whether they believe the videos or not. that might be the right answer. others think that social media should be forced to take these videos down once they have been proven false. that may be the answer. it maybe something in between but our laws are woefully inadequate to deal with this next wave of technology that's going to be effecting our american discourse and that's something that we have to talk about seriously from both parties. >> i'm curious, if you're pee r speaker pelosi and you aim to get something done before 2020 and show the benefits of having done so, are you out of luck? >> well, i hope not. i don't think this is someone,
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she is going to continue to get this done. t they're going to try to continue to get the job done. with respect to the videos, in addition to all the things that lauren said we also need leaders including the president of the united states not to perpetuate any kind of false videos or lies and it's outrageous that we have leaders doing something like that. it's going to be hard to get things done but democrats are going to keep at that. you'll see speaker pelosi continue to do that and that's why she is doing more than one thing at once and women are pretty good at that. >> if you're the president, how can you get anything done at this point and can you bother saying i'm not trying to work with democrats? >> i don't what he's going to do. i don't know if he can get away with that entirely but i think
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they're moving to a position of energizing the base, moving toward 2020 and there's no benefit to them to compromise with democrats at this point because there's no benefit to the base. they want the base of support that he has that got him elected, wants him to take on nancy pelosi and the democrats at every turn so i don't think that bodes well for legislate i have collusisolutions going for >> we'll see you again. thank you so much. >> we're just getting started this saturday. the top of the hour is up with david gur and he's joining us with what's coming up. >> one of those 38 house democrats calling for impeachment is going to join us. he says that in light of what we have learned so far it's time as he put it for proceedings to get under way and president trump indicated he is considering pardons for several americans that have been charged with or convicted of war crimes. an oped this morning is out pushing back on that argument. he says it would be enormously
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damaging to the values of the u.s. armed forces if that were to happen. he's going to join us this morning. >> you're right. that was scathing what he wrote. we'll tune in for that. the road to miami and the first democratic presidential debate whether sharing the stage with joe biden could hurt or help the other candidates. rt or help the other candidates n smith. not this john smith. or this john smith. or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are humana medicare advantage members. no, it's this john smith. who we paired with a humana team member to help address his own specific health needs. at humana, we take a personal approach to your health, to provide care that's just as unique as you are. no matter what your name is. ♪
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away. joe biden leading the poll with 33%. bernie sanders you can see him at 15%. kamala harris and elizabeth warren also posting double digit support. they have 11 and 10% respectively. joining me is the man. you are here. this is your season. we're getting all the questions. okay. so you have biden and sanders on top again in these polls 1 and 2 respectively. what does that tell you? >> a couple of interesting things. number one you see biden again, separation from the rest of the pack, better than 2-1 advantage there over sanders so biden is clearly the front runner at this point. the interesting thing is the movement behind him. sanders still at number 2. two other candidates in double digits now. harris and warren and warren in particular in a number of polls has a bit of momentum now and i actually suspect when you start looking inside those numbers where is that support coming from? one place is actually pete
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buttigieg because a month ago we were talking about hi surging and getting up close to 10%. he has not expanded that support any further it's actually gone back and demographically his supporters are more higher income and more likely to have college degrees. that's also more likely to be warren's support so i think she is drawing from the pool that a month ago was getting excited about buttigieg. >> i'm dying to know how they're going to figure out who goes where in which debate. where the placement is and all of that. get to the details on that. >> what the dnc has been addiment about, what the chairman said is he doesn't want this situation where you have a varsity team and a junior varsity team. so basically what they said is they're going to take every candidate that qualifies, that's 20 candidates and by the way, there's going to be some candidates that continue qualify but they'll take the 20 that do qualify and split them into two
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groups based on their position in the polls. averaging more than 2% and an candidates averaging less and from those two groups they will randomly assign half to one debate and half to the other. so you're going to get half of the candidates who are polling substantially they're going to be on stage and then half the candidates under 2% will be on stage with them. that will be one debate and the other debate will be the other half if that makes any sense. >> it does but how fair will that be? you have to think about those that are posing the questions. they're going to want to go don't you think to the candidates that have the most to way and have the most support right now. do you think it's going to be completely fair. >> i don't think there's anyway you can say this is going to be completely fair. this airs on the side of a pretty equal distribution based on how they're polling. it's unlikely the top five will all be -- top five polling candidates will all be on one stage together and they will be joined by the lower tier
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candidates. it does change the dynamics of the debate depending on how the draw goes. for instance if sanders and biden are on the same stage, you have to think more is going to go biden's way because he's the front runner but if sanders ends up in a separate debate from biden sanders is suddenly the top on the stage and more goes his way and those are the sorts of dynamics that are dependent on which in particular candidates are on stage together. >> the topic of abortion is a pivotal issue right now and you have several candidates out there campaigning and rallying as well. what do you think is the likelihood that this has legs to stay through 2020 and be a real issue for the democrats to face? >> we're likely to keep hearing about it. there's the potential of this ultimately becoming a supreme court fight way down the road but two things seem to be happening with the abortion debate to me. number one, we talked about this dynamic in the trump era of the
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culturally moderate suburban voters. this seems like the issue that might solidify them in terms of their bond with the democrats now. this issue solidifies that even if they don't like him on personal levels from 2020. >> unfortunately nick tells me i have to wrap. >> are you giving me the hook? >> not in the least. you have a welcome and open invitation any time. thank you. going digital is meant to help the u.s. census count but not everyone agrees. we'll talk about the biggest threats, next. ees. we'll talk about the biggest thatres, next. is that net carbs or total?...
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out this warning, what do they say is the most daunting threat here? >> they still think still zen sh r citizenship is the big issue, but with this question out there, everything else that is problematic with the census is that much worse. so if you are trying to push a census that is going to have responses online, and you have all this fear out there of a citizenship question, trying to get people to go online first of all is difficult and it is made that much more difficult. so in measuring what is daunting, it is just the effect of having a citizenship question on the 2020 census. and making those barriers even that much more difficult. >> but wait, how does switching to line oig respononline, becau you'd think that was a convenience, how does it disenfranchise african-americans or latinos. >> there are people out there that don't have access to
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broadband or if they do, it is through a phone or it is very low quality. and even the fcc measures who is on line by how many mega bits you get when you are downloading or uploading. so it is difficult. and there are people who just don't operate online, don't -- can't afford the cost of internet at home or just don't somewhere being have access in a rural area. so that makes it difficult. >> in terms of the census saying they want to respond saying the goal of the census is a complete and accurate count, we are condition ducting significant outreach re to hard to reach communities, it will be easier to respond than ever before. but then you you have folks like l.a. mayor garcetti who is not buying that. why not? >> right. so garcetti has a community that is heavily latino. you will find many latinos that are not online, not in their community. they are more likely to use a phone to get online. that is their internet access.
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so latinos will use that, but right now we don't know if there is an app or how well the form will work online on a telephone. and so right now a group like this group that put out the report, the latino commission, is trying to help people and educate people to get them to answer the census. but if you don't know if there is an app out there or how well it will work, how long it will take on a phone because the quality of access is slower, then it is a lot harder to try to educate people that way. >> i'm glad you pointed all that out. certainly a lot of questions remain. suzanne, thank you so much. mexico was going to pay for the border wall. next on "up," the country that will pay for the latest round of u.s. farm aid.
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is what we want to give our customers. at comcast, it's my job to constantly monitor our network. prevent problems, and to help provide the most reliable service possible. my name is tanya, i work in the network operations center for comcast. we are working to make things simple, easy and awesome. that is a wrap for me on this hour. i'll look forward to seeing you at noon. time now for "up" with david gura. this is "up." president trump is in tokyo kicking off a four day state visit to japan. and trade talks are looming large. >> i would say that japan has had a substantial edge for many, many years.
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