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don't start humira if you have an infection. be there for you, and them. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. welcome back to "kasie dc." i'm kasie hunt we're live every sunday from washington from 7:00 this week president trump to 9:00 p.m. eastern. tonight the president travels to was reportedly considering a japan and trashes joe biden number of pardons to issue while expressing confidence in around memorial day. kim jong-un. we're only using b roll with they were for american service members accused or convicted of sumo wrestlers from here on out. war crimes. a number of prominent military plus the speaker questions the president's mental fitness. figures sounded off. it is going to be a long, hot general martin demsey tweeted, summer. and later my conversations with three veterans.
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the wholesale pardon of u.s. but first, with as -- as with service members accused of war many of the president's foreign crimes signals to our troops and trips, his visit to japan was allies that we don't take the quiet until it wasn't. law of armed conflict seriously. there was golf with prime bad message. minister shinzu abe and a joining me is chrissy houlahan of pennsylvania, selfie. later the two sat ring side at a congresswoman it's great to have you on the program. thanks for being here. sumo wrestle tournament. >> good evening. the president bestowed a trophy thanks for having me. >> let's start with dempsey's on the champion. quote, north korea fired off some small weapons which comments about the pardons. disturbed some of my people, which is what he wrote later, do you think the president but not me, i have confidence should pardon those accused of that chairman kim will keep his war crimes. promise to me, and also smiled >> i served and my father served when he called swampman joe biden a low iq individual. as well, and he went to the pow and perhaps -- and worse perhaps that's sending me a signal. survivor camp, and in that he obviously there is a lot in was water boarded and he raised there. but chuck todd got white house me teaching me how important it press secretary sarah sanders to weigh in on the heart of the was to never violate matter this morning on "meet the
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international law. and as america we're responsible press." >> can you explain why americans should not be concerned that the for providing an example on how president of the united states is essentially siding with a to conduct war. murderous authoritarian dictator so i'm appalled by the hearing over a former vice president of the united states? >> chuck, the president is not that president trump will be providing a pardon for these siding with that, but i think folks. they agree in their assessment >> speaking of international norms, allies, how we conduct of former vice president joe biden. ourselves on the world stage. the president has been abroad >> the president's tweet was just the latest display of what meeting with shinzu abe, he has his critics would call a meetings today. but he did tweet about the vice troubling fondness for foreign president joe biden and kim jong-un, seeming to take kim jong-un's side. what's your reaction to the dictators. and 2020 democrats were quick to president, both sending that point that out. message in general but also doing it while overseas? amy klobuchar shared a memory >> this is another one of those hitting next to john mccain and norms that we sort of have o elizabeth warren took a few shots of her own. observed until this current >> john mccain kept reciting administration where politics names of dictators during that remains at water's edge and we speech because he knew more than don't bring this dialogue any of us what we were facing as overseas. so i am disappointed to say the a nation. least in our president for he understood it, he knew having brought this discussion
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because he knew this man more overseas. than any of us did. we should be very concerned >> we have got to have a about north korea. president that has a more this is not a friend of ours. >> do you think it's appropriate coherent vision of foreign for democrats on the campaign policy and sees america's trail to be criticizing the interests over the long term. president while he's overseas or understands that falling in love not? >> well, i actually, and many of with kim jong-un -- it's the us who are new to this congress ran on a platform of decency and civility, i think we as a hair. i hadn't thought about that. nation, that includes our leadership and candidates, would and what is it with putin? it's the horse. okay. do better to be more civil and >> and with that, i'd like to respectful of one another. i think our democrat candidates welcome my panel, with me shawna and republicans as well, would do better and serve us better if thomas and elise lavit, brian we were decent to one another, class, and traveling with the regardless of where we are. >> i would not say the past week president in tokyo, kristen in congress was a banner week for decency and civility, we saw welker. it's great to have you on from a remarkable set of events in the other side of the world. i want to start with you, it's the trading of personal insults. morning where you are, evening in the united states. but overarching all of that is in this impeachment question. the president has already had that's part of what the white quite a trip, and quite frankly house says is what the president the tweet really dispenses with was so incensed about.
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the fact that nancy pelosi said what has been an age-old i had that he's engaged in a cover up. yum of leaving politics at the do you think that the way nancy water's edge. pelosi handled her back and forth with trump was >> it sure does, kasie. appropriate? and it's great to see you. do you support her in that? look this has been a trip of >> so i think that speaker pelosi is in an interesting contradictions as so many of the position where she is trying to president's foreign trips turn make sure she understands the out to be. will of the caucus. on the one hand he's had this i'm one of the people that charm offensive with the hasn't seen enough evidence and japanese prime minister, as you hasn't gotten enough questions pointed out, they played golf, answered. so i am appreciative of the fact had dinner, attended the sumo that she is being patient with the progress we are making as a wrestling match. then huh the tweet that landed caucus because we need to get in the middle of all of it which more answers and there are more ways to do that than necessarily he broke with the japanese prime minister in the assessment of accelerating the impeachment proceedings we have opportunities through the courts the north korean missile test. and additional subpoenas and shinzu abe saw those missile additional hearings to do this tests as a violation of the and get better answers so we can national security violations, deliver a better solution on the and he rebuked his own national senate. >> do you feel as though some of your colleagues are drowning you security advisor john bolton who out? do you truly believe this is said north korea crossed a line still a majority? with those missile tests. you are in the majority of your caucus in thinking that impeachment right now is not the and taking aim at former vice way to go? >> well, as far as i understand
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from the reporting that i was just listening to, if you guys president joe biden and siding with kim jong-un to do it. are taking a nose count you have of course, satisrah sanders was something in the order of a couple dozen, few dozen folks defense with all of us. but today he sits down to hold ready to move forward towards impeachment proceedings, bilateral talks with the prime hearings which is different than minister. but these contradictions, kasie, a impeachment vote. i do think make it that much we have the majority of more difficult as president democrats, so 200 and something trump heads into what he's of those, so by far the majority hoping will be very serious of democrats are not at the point to do impeachment diplomatic talks and, of course, proceedings or move to an give his political rivals plenty impeachment vote. of fodder back at home. >> while i have you, it is, of course, memorial day we are >> we've laid out some of that. elise, you've covered the state honoring our fallen service department for many, many years. members. you are working on a bill for let's just start with the veterans who've come home, women president contradicting his own veterans and who are looking for foreign policy team on these health care. women face a unique set of challenges that frankly hasn't north korea tests. what stands out to you on that? been the focus of our va system, what's the status of the how remarkable is it? >> we've seen this from the legislation you're working on president and he's been doing it and what is your top priority there? >> sure. we started actually last week. a lot with john bolton. we launched what was called the saying he tempers down john women's veterans in service bolton. but he -- to go overseas when
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women's caucus, it's a caucus of you're about to meet with a world leader. and he essentially gives away 51 strong bipartisanly, which any leverage that he has, shows we need to think about the because he shows what north service of women who are veterans. korea has been trying to do. the caucus does not require that it's interesting how kim jong-un you're a woman or veteran to and president trump have gotten participate in it. into each other's heads, if you but we just dropped our first will, they can kind of read bill, a bipartisan bill, it speaks to the needs of women as them. kim jong-un has basically tried to divide president trump from the advisers like john bolton they separate from the military. it asks for the military, and others in the administration that want a tougher line on specifically the army and navy, north korea. to emulate a program that was and president trump is siding working in the air force, that with kim jong-un and saying i sprieds four hours of training trust him. for veteran women or women as now the thing is he says i'll trust his promise to me. they're separating to tell them about what the va can provide kim jong-un never -- >> it's all personal. them. as a consequence of the program >> but kim jong-un never made that's working in the air force, any promises to him. this is what -- a lot of it is women are less likely to commit suicide and more likely to bizarre, but this is really the access the va as a result. most concerning because kim jong-un never made any promises this caucus as an opportunity to to this arm, and president trump provide teeth to issues like this as women become more and more part of the active duty keeps thinking by cajoling and this friendship with him. but if he listens to some of force and more and more part of these advisers that know north the veterans force. korea a little bit better, john it is important we address this
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bolton among them, he would know issue. we discovered we doubled the that's not true. i think president trump gave up number of women veterans in a lot of leverage. congress from two to four and >> i also think it's discovered we needed to think about this, and there was no interesting -- i'm not sure we'd pay as much attention to this current caucus thinking about this particular issue. particular tweet if he weren't >> certainly from our in the region of the world perspective it is two to four, that's affected by north korea. it feels -- i'm glad that we these missiles based on what i have doubled it, but man we have read were not ones that would a long way to go. >> yeah, it's kind of sad. have reached japanese waters and >> before i let you go, it is japan. but we know they have the capability, right. memorial day, i just wanted to it means he has brought the ask you who you may be issue toward the forefront. remembering or reflecting on as >> it makes it more incendiary. we observe this holiday? >> sure. you know, we know memorial day >> they could have break throughs with trade. is a day of observation for there are things the president wants to do, the white house those who have fallen in the wants to do, instead all we're fight for our freedom. i personally have a long family going to do is talk about north korea and north korea is going back to the things we've always heritage of military service but none of my family has seen them do. they test missiles, they do fortunately ever been felled by everything else to actually war. i am struck by a story when i like -- sorry, saber rattle, took my dad to the vietnam war and, you know, it is -- it is a repetitive pattern. memorial. it doesn't -- they didn't need we walked together and saw a to talk about this. >> but to call those missiles tiny picture at the base of the
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small and nothing just kind of name of a soldier, it was opens the door for kim jong-un remarkable because it looks like to try a little bit bigger one. a picture i hold to this day of maybe a medium range missile and my dad, mom and me when he see if that's going to be. returned from vietnam. he's going to keep testing and my dad was struck by that and pushing the line, here you have started to cry because he realized that could have been us. my mom and i could have been john bolton and secretary pompeo and others saying we're not alone without him. i don't want to think about what going to stand for this and president trump going i'm going my life would have been like to stand for it, it's not a big without my dad. and i'm really appreciative of the fact that he did live and deal. >> shawna mentioned trade, really, really thankful for those who have served for us and that's at the top of the agenda as you said. who did die. how does this impact whether or congresswoman chrissy not shinzu abe is willing to houlahan thank you for those trust president trump in those final words. negotiations? >> you're very welcome. thank you. still to come, investigating >> well, i think you hit the key the investigators. the president gives his attorney word. general far reaching power to it is about trust, kasie. declassify documents related to right. how can he effectively trust the the russia probe. related to promises that president trump the russia probe makes as they try to work through some of these very thorny issues. what he is effectively saying, look, i have faith in kim jong-un. there are so many sticking points when it comes to the
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issue of trade, casey. think about agriculture, beef, cars, those are just among them. i think the reason president trump is playing down the broader trade deal on this visit, there are elections here hey, who are you? so essentially prime minister abe is in a box being able to oh, hey jeff, i'm a car thief... what?! offer concessions. i'm here to steal your car because, president trump has acknowledged well, that's my job. that, tweeted about it. what? it wasn't a half hour after he what?? what?! (laughing) what?? landed that he criticized the what?! what?! [crash] what?! japanese trade policy so that haha, it happens. undercuts his leverage heading and if you've got cut-rate car insurance, into these talks that are going paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. to start a few hours from now. they are going to have a joint so get allstate... and be better protected press conference, we're hoping from mayhem... like me. we get some questions because we're going to push the ♪ president on this, how does he get a trade deal, how does he stand with japan and try to pressure north korea to give up its nuclear ambitions when he is speaking with these contradictions. it's going to be tough. >> he's facing criticism already
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here at home. here's how two republican senators reacted to the president's comments about kim jong-un this morning. >> i find them very disturbing. and certainly wouldn't trust kim jong-un. so i think we need to keep our eyes on north korea. we need to see north korea back off of those activities and we need to take a very strong stance on that. >> i think he's trying to give north korea some space to come back to the table and end this. i'll give trump the space he needs to deal with kim, but i'll remind the president that you have to deliver on this. this is a signature issue of your administration. >> so brian, in london, that the domestic angle here for the united states, already the president facing criticism from within his own party, or certainly at least dealing with disagreement among those who would side with him. what's the view from across the atlantic. do our traditional nato allies look at something like this and
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make them even more nervous or is it par for the course? >> i think it is making people extremely nervous. it makes people in japan nervous, people in south korea nervous. if trump was being strategic about trying to isolate china, those are two allies you really need. over here there is a nato ♪ alliance in doubt because of run with us. president trump. on a john deere z500 series mower. there's a long time he took to say he would uphold article 5 to built to mow better, faster. because sometimes... defend nato allies. when you take a look around... you notice... your grass is long... this is one more provocation where if you're looking at this your time is short... and there's no turning back. objectively, trump is saying over and over and over praise ♪ for dictators and attacking ♪ nothing runs like a deere™. allies. we are on the cusp of memorial run with us. day where a lot of people, brave visit your john deere dealer today, to test drive a z500 or z700 series ztrak™ mower. soldiers, fought and died to stand up to tyrants. while the president is praising one and attacking the former vice president of the united states after he's been bashing allies in the uk, germany, canada, everywhere you look
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everyone who relies on the u.s. leadership for their safety, this is a worrying time. in the uk they'll be looking at this closely because trump is coming in early june and the uk is about to have a new prime minister, so there's a question about how much that relationship will be rattled by this continual dictator envy trump seems to have. >> let's talk about the back he certainly expects the half of the president's tweet -- >> there's a lot to talk about. people responsible and part of >> -- we spent a lot of time on this unprecedented obstruction the first half. and corruption at the fbi, those joe biden, former vice president of the united states, the people should certainly be held president essentially siding responsible and be held accountable and the president with a pumurderous dictator who expects that to take place. so he expects an outcome he keeps his people in a horrific wants not an outcome that the facts lead to? state of affairs and trashing >> chuck, i think you're trying one of our democratic leaders at to muddy the waters too much home. >> the one thing we have to take here. we already know, once again, a step back with, i have a hard that there was wrong doing. time believing the american voting public actually cares >> i think that's rich who's muddying waters. what the president tweets about >> that's a -- i'm -- well, i joe biden. don't think it's crazy to want i know this is really good
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conversation for us and one to know how far and how wide the thing that biden. corruption at the fbi was. i think biden wasn't going to >> let's just be clear on who respond to this because he was and wasn't muddying waters responded to the north koreans. >> i think the first tweet was there, it was not chuck todd. sarah sanders on the president's they spelled his name wrong and decision to grant bill barr the then they corrected it and the response from the biden camp was power to declassify documents that wasn't the problem. >> i think the people thinking related to the russia probe. about voting for joe biden they andrew, this is something i have made up their mind about think that is potentially president trump. and if this is the campaign explosive in congress. president trump wants to hold, lindsey graham is focussed on then the people who are thinking it, but i'm not sure that as about voting for president trump are going to have to take that devin nunes was going down all of this when republicans into account. i'm not sure it's this controlled the house we ever particular tweet that's going to thought it would get to this change anybody's minds, i have point. now it seems that sarah sanders to admit. >> agree about politics. i don't think it has much to do sukt with our politics. suggested to chuck in that i think it makes the u.s. look interview that if bill barr doesn't find in his favor he's very weak and unorganized and in not going to believe what he disarray abroad. whether it's vladimir putin finds. >> remember the devin nunes looking, whether it's the memo, and the concern now you have the attorney general, he chinese looking, whether it's kim jong-un looking. won't have to get permission you had it spot on in the from the intelligence community to declassify what he wants to.
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beginning. foreign policy is -- has always this idea you would be traditionally been a very subverting the intelligence bipartisan thing. community which is something that unnerves national security politics ends at the water's edge. i will say just like president officials because in that trump should not go abroad and scenario they're no longer in charge of our nation's secrets. say anything about whether it's nancy pelosi or joe biden. unfortunately for democrats in congress this isn't something i don't think elizabeth warren or amy klobuchar should be they can provide meaningful bashing a president when he is going to meet with a world oversight over. the reason why the leader. i think you should want the administration has a flat no we're not going to cooperate president to succeed in a meeting no matter how you feel with you at any turn policy, about him. especially with the house >> but do they have to play by intelligence committee, chairman the old rules if the president schiff has vowed to do this, but has thrown them out to this i don't see a lane to success. degree? >> think for a couple days maybe >> we're reporters, we're all you do. it's not in the u.s. interest in my view for the united states to for government transparency and look weak abroad, no matter if declassifying information. but the challenge seems to be it's the president's fault or who started it. when the president is overseas i the deselective declassifying of think it's been traditional, and it still stands. this. >> and whether everyone believes >> presidents overseas have that bill barr will, in a fair typically respected the way selectively declassify. boundaries of not campaigning. >> i'm not saying two rights there is going to be stuff that make a wrong or two wrongs make i think attorney general william barr is not going to declassify. a right or whatever the saying i think he has the ability to
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is. i think he showed extremely poor uphold the rule of law and he judgment when he said that about understands what our intelligence communities need. joe biden and the democrats i think all of it will be called bought on it. yes, it makes president trump in question, we have sarah sanders giving chuck todd an look foolish overseas it also answer that could make the makes -- president call into question >> now everybody is down in the mud together. >> exactly. bill barr if nothing was done incorrectly. and he has this ability to >> brian let me ask you about a piece of this, the eu elections, declassify things at will to say you can't believe that either. which are ongoing currently. i say that because it seems to we've been talking about this for two years, the morale in the be reflecting this broader trend toward right wing populism fbi must be incredibly low. that's sweeping the west. because now they know their this comes as we're getting attorney general also may be kind of investigating what they warnings from the german did. does he believe what they did minister in charge of monitoring was right? and it calls into question all kinds of things. anti-semitism telling jewish if i were in the fbi, i'd be people in germany not to wear like why should i keep doing this for you. >> and republicans in congress are defending all of this. kippahs in public. >> sure. let's step back and look at it. >> it's a worrying time. first of all, the attorney the rise of the right is reel. general has always had a role in the bigotry and anti-semitism national security as the head of that comes with it is real. essentially determining when do we ease drop on americans if the we need to take stock of that.
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there's a threat of terror or the results are being koubtcouns some subversion. so it's a natural role for the attorney general. he really is in charge of fbi. we speak. there's been a loss of some countries the far right has confidence by at least half of surged. the people on capitol hill in it's difficult to read the tea the fbi because of the way that comey dealt with it and mccabe. leaves and apply it to trump. this is an opportunity -- when you think about >> they were perfectly happy with how comey handled hillary anti-semitism there's a purge of clinton. >> not really, half the time people parroting that bigotry. they were happy with him and so i think the leadership for then he flipped -- >> which suggests it's all the united states needs to be very clear around -- with politics. i apologize we have to leave it there. thank you all so much. everybody, at the exception of really appreciate it. president trump who has coming up my conversation obviously weighed in many on this, that we do not stand for this. with republican congressman and that's why i disagree with the veteran dan crenshaw. d veteran dan crenshaw idea we should not push back against trump when he's overseas when he does this, because the united states needs to preserve liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. its reputation beyond trump. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ when you look at japan, confidence in the u.s. president is down 48%. that's one of the best in the i'm workin♪ to make each day a little sweeter. allies. it's down 70 or 80% among most to give every idea the perfect soundtrack.
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>> what was it like for her? >> it's extremely hard. she gets a phone call at 5:00 a.m. she knows that's not normal. this week the nation watched her only consolation is not a as the president of the united uniform person at the door. she knows i'm not dead. states and the speaker of the house traded personal insults imagine that being your only and openly questioned each consolation. she knows i'm wounded. other's mental fitness. something terrible has happened. "the washington post" report i might not make it. both sides feel like they came that's all she knows. out on top. she sdndoesn't know details. to many democrats house speaker i know what happened to me, even nancy pelosi scored a political victory over president trump though i'm unconscious and blind and can barely move. this week, making him so in a sense, it's harder on her incensed he hurled insults on than on me. i signed up for this. her and blue up negotiations on it's extremely hard. the one issue that held the you would be amazed at the promise of a rare bipartisan caregiver community, the spouse deal, infrastructure. to the president's allies, a community. she had her friends right there with her right away. some of her friends have lost weakened nancy pelosi, needed to their husbands just a couple years earlier. mollify her democratic caucus this is the kind of tight-knit with a growing number demanding that she launch an impeachment community that occurs in the military. he would should be proud of inquiry. a poll insists that more that. but we should look for ways to
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help them. >> as you have found your way as democrats are supporting an a new member of congress, i impeachment inquiry. remember when we spoke when you were running, you talked about what it might mean to connect with other veterans who are here and david macinto sh joins us. on capitol hill and how you might be able to work together at more successfully -- have you found that's happened? it was quite a week, andrew on have you connected with other veterans? how is that applying to your work? capitol hill. >> it was. >> yeah. part of the four country caucus. >> it bottomed out with doctored and misleading video flying it just started. we're getting our legs under us. around by the end of the week. who came out on top, do you we are looking for those think, from the perspective bipartisan solutions. of -- let's go with both sides of the capitol hill. if you're house and senate hopefully, we find a little bit of the more controversial republicans watching this unfold, do you think the topics. it's easy to find bipartisan president did the right thing? things. we voted on the secure act. >> both sides love these american people should be happy rhetorical feuds. about this. it doesn't get enough reporting nancy pelosi loves them because it gets her out of the that we do every once in a while vote on things in a bipartisan impeachment conversation, a way. chance to bludgeon the president today was an example of that. >> what issues do you think you can work on here in congress? ahead of 2020. what have you been focused on for the president it gives him a that apply to many millennial reason to paint the democrats they're only out to get me for veterans, people who fought in political reasons. that came to a head in iran and afghanistan. you have a special set of particular this week because the priorities. >> i'm on homeland security
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president was facing the heat over the two court rulings that committee and ethe budget upheld the subpoenas the committee. as you know, i'm focused on democrats set forth for his financial records. securing the border. the president talked about that i want to support lindsey as his red line in these graham's bill about closing investigations that have targeted him the last two years. asylum loopholes to get control the president was feeling the on our border. we have been looking for ways to make it easier for veterans with heat and the best way to put the spotlight off of that was the security clearances to get hired blow up the infrastructure meeting the way he did. >> is this how governance should by cvp. little things like that. they are small but they mean take place in our democracy? something to hem. we should continue to work >> no. nothing is getting done. together on issues like that. each house should be jealous of a broader sense, my district is its own prerogatives. that means the legislature always being hurt by hurricane should be focussing on what season. we will laser focus on that. bills to pass, the infrastructure bill, spending >> that's been the focus in the bill -- last couple of weeks. >> that seems out. >> exactly. it's very hard to see any on some news -- your point about immigrati prospect for substantial immigration, there's been legislation occurring this year reporting that veterans who aren't citizens are getting made and next year. the president, the executives citizens at a lower rate than should be focussed on enforcing the again population. those laws, right? do you think that's right? making sure things are focussing >> probably not. probably something we need to well, he's the negotiator abroad look into.
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i have got a lot of sympathy for on trade deals. people who have served and want president trump projecting to become citizens. that's what he'll do, he's we should prioritize them. not people who decided to walk moving forward. then nancy pelosi says something across the border. we should prioritize visas for and he has what appears to be a temper tantrum, calls off the meeting. one of the things i learned in politics was you have to be like interpreters that have nearly a duck and let things roll off been killed for us. >> you have experienced war in a your back in order to get something done. way that increasingly smaller >> that is not how this proportion of our country has. president does business. the country is -- has been and pelosi gets under his skin. exhausted by wars in iraq and >> neither does pelosi. afghanistan. the administration is ramping up the rhetoric toward iran. >> she does better. it includes potentially sending but she knows how to get under 10,000 troops to the middle his skin and this is what she east. does. >> and he has the press do you think that's a solid plan? conference in the rose garden, what are the dangers potentially of us escalating with iran? attack her. >> counterintuitive , it's a she can have it come at her, i'll be the wall for the democrats, just look at me i'll deescalation.ranians make him look foolish in her opinion. when you think about the senate republicans, they're sitting will use -- people don't realize around watching this thinking
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how are we going to raise the debt ceiling -- >> disaster relief has been a there was explosives brought into bahrain by the iranians. huge problem. >> they made a deal and one republican went out and scuttled they are an expert at this. the unanimous consent. they will use those surrogates to attack u.s. forces. that was his choice. i was told by someone in then claim they have nothing to leadership on the democratic do with it. side they had a deal with the by actually putting forces on republicans and they think the ground and stating we know you are doing this and we -- congressman chip roy -- >> one of yours. >> chip is my hero. >> i heard he went rogue on this is going to be the consequences of that, it's actually a deescalation. that, and the democratic side was not blaming kevin mccarthy. it prevents the iranians from making a misstep that we don't >> we should say it will get want them to make. they are trying to goad us into done when they get back next a strike of some sort that would week. >> it'll get done if chip roy actually give them more leverage doesn't come back. on the world stage. they can point at the u.s. and >> they were trying to do say, look what they are doing. unanimous consent, so they'll the trump administration, their vote on it. >> it'll get done. statements have been made clearly. no intention of doing that. there are big things happening i think this is the right move while i think congress will get to make sure that we have the appropriation bills past, sooner preventative measures in place. or later they do, they figure it >> thank you very much for your time today. appreciate it. >> good to be with you. out. but debt ceiling. >> my thanks to congressman dan
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crenshaw. crenshaw -♪ just like any other family >> that's terrifying for everyone. >> yes. it calls into question credit and a lot of things. there's a question whether the president of the united states understands that. >> his people, if i may, quickly, their goal is to get a clean debt ceiling and maybe fight on the appropriations bills and budget later. ♪ the house, kids, they're living the dream ♪ >> i want to focus us back here ♪ and here comes the wacky new maid ♪ on impeachment and this political question of how these -maid? uh, i'm not the... various fights help or hurt -♪ is she an alien, is she a spy? ♪ nancy pelosi. this week we saw one of ♪ she's always here, someone tell us why ♪ congress' most ardent supporters -♪ why, oh, why -♪ she's not the maid we wanted ♪ of impeachment, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, she seemed to shift her tone after a -because i'm not the maid! -♪ but she's the maid we got caucus meeting with the house -again, i'm not the maid. speaker. here's what she told me on tuesday, the day before the i protect your home and auto. meeting. >> house speaker nancy pelosi -hey, campbells. who's your new maid? has been under pressure from some additional members to launch impeachment proceedings. do you think she should? >> i believe that we have come to a time of impeachment. i think that at a certain point this is no longer about
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viewed as hillary clinton's proven to protect. negligent conduct in 2012. and then you have folks like the 2019 subaru outback is how safe is the car you're considering? alexandria ocasio-cortez saying an iihs top safety pick plus. we need to launch impeachment proceedings now. i don't think pelosi's position the honda cr-v is not. on this is stainable. sorry, honda. we saw it the past month after which suv would make the best investment? the white house instructed the the subaru outback has the best resale value in its class former white house counsel, don mcghan, to not comply with the for 2019, according to kelley blue book. subpoena for documents and witness testimony. you had about two dozen even better than the toyota rav4. democrats at that moment come sorry, toyota. out and say it's time to launch it's easy to love a subaru. impeachment proceedings. next month we have two more subpoenas, and i think when the white house claims executive privilege and tries to force them -- or sway them away from testifying on capitol hill and giving doms to the house judiciary committee, i think you're going to see more democrats come out in favor of impeachment, blaming the white house's ins is sent stonewall g stonewalling. >> and more of them are looking to history and the more this happens, the more we'll deal with that. >> it becomes unstainable.
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doing any kind of testing. >> i don't think it's remotely possible that chairman kim would give up his nuclear weapons. >> we need to see north korea back off. >> this is not your buddy. this is someone with dangerous weapons. >> we have a president being tough with these countries. i don't know how you could say that's nothing. >> mr. trump is giving his attorney general authority to declassify intelligence about how the russia probe started. >> isn't this the president already putting his thumb on the you wouldn't accept from any one else. scale here? why accept it from your allergy pills? >> it's rich coming from the flonase relieves your worst symptoms media. >> the so-called attorney including nasal congestion, general intentionally which most pills don't. misrepresented the conclusions flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. of the mueller report. >> i have complete confidence in most pills only block one. attorney general barr. flonase. >> we need the story to be told from mueller, not from attorney general barr. >> democratic calls for impeachment are growing. >> pelosi says they're not there yet. >> we have to proceed methodically. >> pelosi is riding a bucking ♪ bronco. >> i want to make sure we get it with venus, you're in charge of your skin. right. >> democrats can sing and dance at the same time. so, write your own rules. >> we can't do our job if the
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president thinks he is above the because no one gets an opinion on why you shave - law. >> she knows an impeachment would be political suicide. or how you show your skin. ♪ >> if the grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, congress has the power to impeach someone for ♪ i want it that way... eating a ham sandwich. i can't believe it. >> welcome back. that karl brought his karaoke machine? i would like to welcome my panel. ♪ ain't nothing but a heartache... ♪ no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of wana summers, sam stein and dollars on my car insurance with geico. ♪ i never wanna hear you say... ♪ michael steele. welcome all. the president is beginning his no, kevin... no, kevin! day in japan. ashley parker reports overnight, quote, after a full day of believe it! geico could save you fifteen percent matches, perhaps the biggest or more on car insurance. star of all, weighing in at 243 pounds, climbed into the sumo ring. he spent the morning determined to put on a show of his own. the president fired off a tweet that in a single social media missive managed to undercut his national security adviser, reaffirm his ties with the
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democr dictator all while misspelling a name. trump appearance was restrained for a president who became a household name as a reality tv star. often seems to thrive amid and even encourage chaos. gone were his days as a wrestling entertainment personality who in 2007 close lined wwe chairman vince mcman before shaving him bald in a viral pay per view moment. sa sara sander's defense also something else. they are standing behind kim jong-un and trashing the former vice-president of the united states.
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>> at its most simplistic level, this was the president taking the side of a brutal dictator with nuclear weapons who threatened this country repeatedly over a democratic rival. it's the predictable trump behib behavio behavior. he views things my friends versus my enemies. >> the scale -- the sheer scale of this i feel like to ray certain extent we have almost lost sight of it. we're not talking about him fighting with the speaker of the house. this is geopolitical. what he is trying to suggest is he is making unprecedented progress with negotiations with north korea because he is a winner and biden and obama were losers. they weren't restricted by the kim are a gene. any missile firing, any test is
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inconsequential because it's on trump's watch. >> the biden camp is deciding not to respond. they did, when asked by one reporter at abc about the misspelling in the first tweet, said the correction of it -- the misspelling wasn't really the problem. it wasn't really the problem with the first tweet. this is obviously infecting the 2020 campaign. >> it is. it's another example of seeing that president trump clearly is elevating joe biden again against the ideas of which adviser who would like to see him stay the course, keep his focus over here. he is talking about and elevating another rival. joe biden in most polls is still considered a frontrunner. he is talking about him instead of talking about the issues. i think that's a concern
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republicans have. whether or not he can stay on message and stay on course. in this case he did not. >> in this case, it seemed like he saw a news coverage of chairman kim saying something nasty about joe biden. i like that. it's as simplistic at that. at this point in time, most of us have ground accustom to how gross and terrible it is. what's more interesting to me is how far his allies and non-allies in the republican party are willing to excuse the behavior. it doesn't take much of an imagination to think back in obama did something remotely like this the panic that would have ensued. >> one of the situations where -- we do have some of them condemning the policy. these missile launches are a big deal. they don't talk about his behavior. >> the trick is, they get to react to these things individually. this is a gross -- it's the
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collective element of it that they don't ever have to respond to. we're so conditioned to move on to the next story. that's why he has been able to maintain this base of support this entire time. things that would have otherwise driven people away, we move on to the next controversy. >> how does it play with independent voters? >> i think it matters in the sense that there's an unease with president trump as president. i think with the right kind of democratic challenger, that can be a huge thing. i keep wondering whether president trump is selecting joe biden as his rival, choosing to elevate him because he is -- may be the most electable democrat. he is also the most perfect foil for trump. he is another old white man. he is someone who has decades experience in washington, d.c. a hint of ethical propriety with his family. not proven. not saying i agree. he can run it against the former
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vice-president in a way he can't against some new generation. >> think about the vulnerabilities hillary had. things that biden has done more so. >> you think that matters more than personality? there's a difference. >> there are cults of personality. i think we can't talk about this realistically without talking about sexism and gender issues. that won't be at play if biden is the general election candidate. it's sad that's a factor, but it is. i think when you look at the policy elements of it, biden does have obvious vulnerabilities that trump could hammer at, which we know is true. he did the same exact thing with hillary clinton to some success. >> speaking of what is going on here back stateside, there's another fight on hold for the moment. tornado sirens blaired all over washington on thursday. it was nearly symbolic of just how volatile the political environment had become. at the depths of the longer
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shutdown in government history, there was a standoff over when and how to hold the state of the union. things were tense. the president eventually relented. this week, the two leaders trashed each other's mental health. the president gave pelosi a nickname which she had so far resisted. >> pound the table, walk out the door. next time, have a tv camera in there while i have my say. that didn't work for him either. now this time, another temper tantrum. >> it was sad when i watched nancy all moving -- the movement and the hands and the craziness. i watch it. that's, by the way, a person that's got some problems. >> i pray for the president of the united states. i wish that his family or his administration or his staff would have an intervention. >> haven't changed very much. been very consistent. i'm an extremely stable genius. >> maybe he wants to take a leave of absence.
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i don't know. >> did you hear what she said about me long before i went after her? did you hear? she made horrible statements. she knows they're not true. she made -- she said terrible things. so i just responded in kind. you think nancy is the same as she was? she's not. maybe we could all say that. >> okay. "the washington post" reports in a recent meeting when a democrat compared trump to a fifth grader, pelosi responded that such a remark was an insult to fifth graders. acco don't say that, she said. children are wonderful, said the mother of five. grandmother of nine. okay. sam, this really did drop to new depths, this feud between trump and pelosi. it could -- we didn't mention it. the tornado sirens were ruingin as the senate was voting on disaster relief. there's a lot to do. they don't seem capable of doing
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it. the president certainly is setting that stage. >> he threw up his arms and said i'm not going to work with you if you continue to investigate me. it pretty much seemed like that was not going to be the case. almost instantaneously the white house was saying, we have to raise the debt ceiling and pass a budget. if they come up with immigration reform, we take them. at that juncture, i don't know how solid the threat is. i will say though that the toxicity of the back and forth between her and trump is -- it's insane. you don't really normally see this type of behavior among the top leaders in the country. it could manifest itself in some serious problems down the road. not just investigative. you could envision a debt ceiling standoff where they have severe brinksmanship. >> you need some level of cooperation between the leaders in order to get the necessary things done. infrastructure spending is important. it would be great. but it's ultimately a want to do
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item. >> it's optional. >> the debt limit is need to do. you can't envision a scenario where the debt limit increase, the most popular vote a member of congress can take, short of raising their own pay, that -- you can't imagine a scenario where that doesn't pass without a large number of republicans and democrats in both houses. >> everybody has to jump together. >> how do we get there? how do we lock arms and jump together if there's this level of inane vitriol. >> trump has lauding her. but this is a breaking between the two of them. to sam's point, how much more toxic does it get? what things don't get done because of it? can this impasse continue?
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if they continue to trade these barbs, what are the results for candidates down the ballot? >> i picked up, pelosi is facing an intense amount of pressure to be more aggressive on investigations. ironically, trump's reaction, the tantrum he threw, helped her. it placated a portion of the caucus to say, okay, maybe you are more methodical approach is working. he threw her a political life line by doing this. it's not what he wanted to do. he wanted to make myrher life a living hell. he did the opposite. >> unintended consequences. more to come on this memorial day edition. a bill air deci bill air tom steyer decided not to run. now he is saying, i told you so. first, i'm joined by seth
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do any of you know captand here we go. [ "good to be alive" by andy grammer ] it's snowtime baby. [ screaming ] oh, snowball. uh, is he ok? not in any way no. take that ok. you were just beaten by a rabbit. you don't even know it. [ ding ] oh, my pizza rolls. joining me now, congressman and 2020 presidential candidate, sur seth moulton. great to have you. i want to start with the president and starting his day in tokyo. i think we actually can show our viewers some pictures of him leaving his hotel.
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he has a day of actual negotiations, bilateral meetings with abe, the prime minister. that's, of course, his chief of staff. what has of courccupied our att is the tweet that went out overnight about kim jong-un and the missiles that he fired off and the president's subsequent criticism of, quote, swamp man joe biden who he calls a low iq individual, seems to side with kim jong-un on this. what impact does a tweet like this have from a president while the president is overseas? >> let's not forget that part of his job is to be commander and chief. i have never seen a weaker commander in chief in history. he koinsults our own troops, american heroes like john
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mccain. it's hard to imagine anyone going into combat that trusts this commander in chief. one of the first thing u.s. learn when you join the military is that you can drop out of a run and they will let you try again. you can fail a test and they will let you take that test again. if you lie about anything, you are gone that afternoon. that's how important trust is in the military. this commander in chief is someone we just fundamentally cannot trust. >> why is it -- if that's the case that the president's approval rating tends to be higher with members of the military than the general public? >> i think that the answer to that is that democrats haven't presented an alternative. that's why i'm in this race, making national security an issue. we have to make it an issue if we're going to beat donald trump. i think he is going to be harder to beat than many americans think. we have to take him on where he is weakest, right here at commander in chief. that's why i'm running a campaign based on service and security and patriotism.
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reminding americans that democrats have a plan to make us safe and strong. >> let's talk for a minute about your presidential campaign. right now, you are obviously in a very large field of two dozen or so candidates. i realize you have been working to break through. we're heading just a handful of weeks until the first debate. are you confident that you are going to be on that stage? what do you need to do to rise above -- rise at all in these polls? >> we haven't qualified yet. we're headed in that direction. i'm only a few weeks in. we're ahead of where other campaigns were just a few weeks in. i recognize that i'm a late entrae entrant to the race. i have had the experience of leading american troops. of having to get a diverse group of americans, people with different religion beliefs and political beliefs from all across this country all united behind a common mission.
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i think that's exactly the kind of leadership we need from the next commander in chief. i'm the only candidate who is talking about taking donald trump on as commander in chief. about questioning what really makes a patriot. let's not forget, this is a guy who used his father's connections to lie about his feet so he didn't have to serve in his generation's war. what a contrast between donald trump and an american president like john f. kennedy who used his father's connections to get medically cleared when he shouldn't have been cleared so he could deploy in his aga generation's war. this say weis a weak commander chief. >> do you think that donald trump is a patriotic man? >> no. i don't think that lying to get out of serving your country is patriotic. don't forget, when donald trump did that and he did it multiple times, it's not like there was some empty seat in vietnam.
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someone had to go in his place. i would like to meet the american hero some day who wen s in donald trump's place to vietnam. i hope he is still alive. >> an interesting question to be sure. this president ran -- in his campaign, he talked about being against the war in iraq. now we have escalated tensions with iran. there are 1,500 american troops being sent. that was after there was reporting there was 5,000 or 10,000 troops preparing to go. what is your view about -- on the president's stance toward iran? do you believe that whatever the intelligence is showing that is coming from the region is enough to justify the escalation? >> just to get the history straight here, trump was against the war in iraq after he was for it. he changed his position. now he seems to be pushing us into a war with iran. i think if you look into the administration, what's really going on is frighteningly
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similar to how we got into iraq. you have hawks like pompeo pushing a weak president, someone who does not have the credibility from having served himself, to keep us out of war, and they are escalating the tensions with iran to the point where we may just have a conflict in the gulf. there are a lot of parallels with iraq and how we got involved there. there are also some parallels with vietnam. think in some ways what the administration is trying to do is provoke a gulf of tonken incident. an altercation in the persian gulf that dragged us into the vietnam war. this is a very dangerous situation right now. >> remarkable analogy there for -- the president is talking about pardoning war criminals. what is your view having served on the battlefield and
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presumably followed the rules of war? should these individuals receive pardons? >> it's disgusting. it's such an insult to all of us who worked hard every single day to follow the law of war. one of the things i was most proud of is that my marines and i never lost -- never lost our american values through all the tragedy, the heartbreak, the deadly environment that we were in every single day in iraq, we never lost sight of though american values. what this draft dodger president is doing in pardoning a bunch of war criminals is an insult to every american who has honorably served. >> speaking of americans who have honorably served and in the case of the holiday we're observing tomorrow have given everything for our country, who are you remembering this
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memorial day? >> a number of people who are lost. one who comes to mind in particular is a marine from my platoon who was one of my heroes. james hassle. he was a lance corporal from alabama. tough upbringing. was a real hero in the war. he saved the life of another marine in my platoon, ryan from vermont, when he put him on his back after he was hit by a grenade in a building we were in. insurgents were rolling grenades down stairs at us. he took ryan out across the street through absolute lly withering machine gunfire to safety. if ryan hadn't been evacuated quickly, he would have died. james didn't die in iraq. he came home and wanted to continue saving lives back here in america. he went to nursing school. got a great job in an e.r. as you might imagine, having gone through an experience like that, he was troubled by
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post-traumatic stress. in a story i heard too many times, he didn't get counseling resources he needed from the v.a. he got drugs. he had so many prescriptions that he died of a heart attack at the age of 30 from taking the drugs prescribed to him by the v.a. james is someone who didn't actually die in iraq, but he died because of it. he is one of the many americans heroes that i'm remembering. on this memorial day. >> a very troubling story and absolutely worth remembering him and so many like him who have struggled in the aftermath of battle. congressman seth moulton, thanks for being here. >> thanks. we will have more in a moment. thanks. we will have more in a moment ♪ limu emu & doug
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my goal here is not to win by a smidge, not to win by an amount that could be contested, but to win by a russia-proof majority. [ applause ] >> welcome back. a handful of 2020 democratic candidates are out on the campaign trail. four are in iowa in preparation for the first crucial test. among them, elizabeth warren who
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struggled with the rollout of her campaign but has picked up momentum in new polling. warren and harris have crept up on sanders who is getting squeezed between them and frontrunner joe biden, who holds a commanding lead over the rest of the field. joining us now from iowa, ali vitale. great to see you. hope the weather in iowa is lovely. it looks like it's -- it looks like you are having a great memorial day weekend out there. let's start with this idea that warren and sanders are sort of dueling in some of the polling for second and third. we have seen bernie sanders take a dip in the wake of biden's rollout. some of what i feel like my sources were telling me very early on that they envisioned these two candidates jock i c s for position seems to be coming true. i'm wondering if that's your sense being out on the road. >> yeah.
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i don't know if you can hear, but elizabeth warren, her music is playing. she's taking the stage. we're beginning to see the binary forming. mostly because some of her polling gains are at his expe e expense. they have been competing in the uber-progressive lane. i asked warren about the comparison between them. a number of voters talk about you in the same breath as bernie sanders. is that fair? >> i'm glad for voters to talk about me. they can talk about me in whatever breath they want. people are talking about student loan debt and a wealth tax and childcare and how to deal with generic drugs to bring down the price. these are issues i fought for all my life. you can make real change in this country.
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more people talking the better. >> reporter: i think when you look at how warren is talking about bernie sanders, i would be surprised if she started drawing tough policy comparisons with him. it is someone who is in her lane on policy. voters also see that. listen to what they said when i was asking about the comparison between the two of them earlier today. do you considerate all supporting bernie sanders? >> i did caucus for bernie sanders in 2016. >> you voted for sand -- or caucused for sanders because you didn't want to for hillary clinton. now sanders without hillary clinton -- >> that's right. i like the sort of systematic approach that elizabeth warren brings to it. >> he was great for his last candidacy. i see something in elizabeth
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that is for all of us and for all the people, just to say bernie isn't. i see something different in her. >> i thought bernie was a great candidate but not as -- i don't think he is there. he doesn't have the plans in place like elizabeth does. >> reporter: you know, there's two things that really strike me out of that. the first is that bernie sanders is someone who laid a lot of the ground work for the policies that he and elizabeth warren talk about on the campaign trail. he is one of the more specific candidates in this race. for voters to tell me that they think that elizabeth warren is more specific when she talks about policy, just goes to show her message of i have a plan for that seems to be sinking in with voters. >> it's a recovery where she was damaged by the dna test and the president's insults. it's interesting that all of the voters were like, bernie sanders is old hat and warren is my next choice. >> two things.
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warren, when she launched and had this whole back and forth with trump over her dna test, it was obviously a strategic blunder. it wasn't her. this is a more natural fit for her being this wonky person who she is. secondly, with respect to bernie, i have wondered for a while how much he could reignite that same base he did in 2016. i think to some degree -- this is going to be a little overs simplicity. 2016 was perfect for him. he was running against an established politician. he was able to get up there and with zero expectations, he launched from the side of the senate and just say, you know what, why don't we be true to ourselves. that helped him raise tons of money. he fell short. i think it's more difficult this time when there's 48,000 people
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still in the race. they all seemingly are moving in the same way. >> the fact that he has had problems with voters of color is more significant this time around. >> absolutely. covering sanders' campaign, the big he question is not only can he reignite the base he had but where can he grow? the question i put to his campaign is, how are they going to bring more voters of color into the fold? i think back to the speak the people forum in houston. he was heckled by some of the women of color in attendance. i asked his campaign about that. what will you do? he spent time in south carolina. that's true. he rolled out endorsements of seven or eight black length lgis there. but there's frustration that while he is going to different places and buildinginfrastructu saying the same thing. people of color want to hear what he would do for african-americans, asians, rather than the message he does
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every day that you and i both covered in 2016. >> the issue is, of course, class and economic issues, not necessarily race. thank you very much. when we come back, i'm joined by tom steyer who has been beating the impeachment drum since president trump took office. he is putting members of congress in the hot seat. you can do this!
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it's about doing what's right now for our country. this is going to be a precedent we set when we don't hold the press accountable. >> why do you think you can't convince a majority of house democrats it's time to impeach him? >> i think it is moving towards that. it's going to demand it. it already is. >> that was a freshman congresswoman hitting back at democrats who say the party should focus on winning in 2020 instead of impeaching president trump. my next guest is saying it isn't either or. joining me now, founder of need to impeach, tom steyer. thanks for coming on the program. >> thanks for having me. >> what do you say to democrats who are concerned that if they go down this path, they will be effectively handing president trump re-election? >> i think the first thing to do is to look back what happened in the last two impeachments. one was of president clinton in
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1998. after he was acquitted by the senate, the republicans who really brought the impeachment won the house, the senate and the presidency. the exact same thing happened after president nixon was forced from office. the whole idea that somehow bringing impeachment is bad for the party bringing it isn't true historically. it doesn't make any sense to me that having televised hearings that will show how corrupt and criminal this president is somehow makes him stronger. i have never understood how showing that someone is corrupt and puts his interests ahead of the american people somehow makes him stronger. that doesn't make any sense to me. >> well, do you buy the argument that it would remind republicans and perhaps independent voters who previously voted republican in the past that they do belong to a party? we saw a little bit of that after brett kavanaugh in some of the senate races in 2018, races
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that potentially democrats were going to be able to win, frankly, republicans started showing up and remembering, right, that's actually the party that i belong to. do you not think that phenomenon might play out if there were impeachment hearings? >> i think for people who are worried that republicans may show up in 2020, they should stop worrying, because republicans are going to show up in 2020. if you look at what happened in 2018, the number of people who voted democrat from four years before, in 2014, 35 million people voted for democrats and 40 million people voted for republicans. in 2018, 50 million people voted for republicans but 59 million people voted for democrats. what really happened was, sure, 10 million more people voted for republicans, but 24 million more people voted for democrats. we should stop worrying about what republicans think and start thinking what the american
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people, the overwhelmingly number of whom agree with us think and make sure that they hear something strong and positive about who we are and the values that we stand for. that's what a winning solution is in 2020. >> mr. steyer, sam stein has a question for you. >> two questions, actually. one is, i'd like your take on representative justin amash and what him coming out for actually saying the president had committed impeachable acts, what that does for the momentum you are trying to build here. >> look, i think that it's important that a republican legislator puts his country ahead of his party. that's what we are asking everybody to do. we represent 8 million people. we're asking the elected officials to put the country ahead of their party and to do what's right. i think speaker pelosi has been saying we need republicans. okay, here is an elected republican doing it. i think more than that, sam, what we're really looking for is for the american people to get
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the information so that we can see across party lines exactly what's happened, how corrupt this president is and we can make up our own minds. that's what's going to drive this debate. just get these televised hearings on an impeachment inkwi inquiry in front of the american people. let us see it. >> this is my second question. my second question is, what does it say that congressman amash is willing to acknowledge that truth but nancy pelosi is not? what does that say to you? >> look, sam, i think -- we started a year and a half ago saying this president had obstructed justice, was corrupt. now we see he wants to be a king. he will not submit to oversight. i think that argument is over for republicans and democrats and independents. we have all seen it. it's clear. let's stop talking about whether he deserves to be impeached. the question,are we going to
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impeach him. what representative amash did was step up and acknowledge the truth that everybody in washington, d.c. knows for a fact, which is this guy deserves to be impeached. we believe americans will do and this country was founded on and that's what we're asking everybody to do. >> mr. steyer, your need to impeach, do you have plans to put pressure on some of the moderate house democrats that are frankly resisting impeachment and backing up nancy pelosi's position? >> look, it isn't really about me at all. we have 8 million people who signed our petition. the only thing that we can really do is let them have their voice be heard to their elected representatives. sure, if there are 30,000 people who have voted for somebody and who have a strong opinion about
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something, if we can organize their voice to be heard by that elected official, that really is something that's powerful and really gets to the root of what we're trying to do. >> does that include ads against primary challengers? >> we have never talked about primary challenges. we have felt if the elected democratic representatives see there's an overwhelming number of people would elected them who are their constituents who feel about this -- this is getting to be an overwhelming issue. they will have to listen. the only thing they can do. >> tom steyer, thank you very much. great to have you. >> thanks. coming up, a lone congressman derails a bill that would have brought over $19 billion in aid to communities hit by hurricanes, wildfires and floods. hit by hurricanes, wildfires and floods calling all sunscreen haters.
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overnight two people were killed and dozens were injured after an ef-3 tornado swept through oklahoma. the storm swept the city of el reno, toppling cars and downing streetlights. many were relieved this week when congress finally appeared ready to pass a bipartisan
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disaster relief bill that would bring $19 billion in much-needed aid. president trump signed off on the agreement before it easily passed the senate 85-8 with many lawmakers already -- with many already on memorial day recess, it went to the house. all it took was one lawmaker to object, and that came in the form of republican congressman chip roy of texas. chip's objection means his own state won't yet have access to $4 billion in aid from hurricane harvey. chip served with ted cruz who made a name for himself in holding up hurricane sandy relief. cruz voted in favor of this disaster relief bill this week. michael, this used to be a very easy thing to accomplish. this has already been delayed months. it's going to pass when the house comes back in a week, but why do this if that's going to be the end game, anyway? >> this is what's frustrating
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about running in washington right now. this is the sort of pointless stunt. is he wrong on some of these things? no. there should be more funding for border security. this should have gone through a regular procedure in the house. but it won't make any difference whatsoever. this package will pass the house when they come back after the memorial day recess, so all this accomplished was bringing more attention to the congressman. i imagine it helped his campaign fundraising and delayed hurricane relief for people across the united states. >> and let's not forget included in that is puerto rico where they are american citizens and they've been waiting for more than a year for all this. when we return, what to watch for in the week ahead. for. fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients
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before we go, we want to talk about what our he is teaes panelists are watching in the week ahead. they are both moving up in the world. we are very proud of them and excited for them, but we will, of course, miss them very much here on kcdc. so thanks to both of you, ashley and nina. i really appreciate it. mike, what are you watching nin the week ahead? >> i'm waiting on trump versus pelosi. he left a cliffhanger. when he comes back from japan, he'll either double down on his insults or we'll return to the
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idea that we can sit down together and nancy pelosi will work on the infrastructure package. it will be one or the other. >> sam? >> i want to see how the next teleprompter operator does on the show, so i have to wait until sunday to see if they make any mistakes. >> you're going to sit here for a week? >> no, i'm watching town hall. i want to see how democrats back home, the few who are still there, how they fare and the degree to which it comes up. we'll tell you if tom stire has his boots on the ground and if the money he raised is working. >> very strong point. >> thank you. that's going to do it for us tonight on kcdc. we'll be back next week from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. eastern. for now, good night from
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