broadcast for this wednesday night. thank you so very much for being here with us, good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. speaking out fo time, special counsel bob mueller said he never considered charging president trump with a crime because federal rules forbid it but he emphasized he didn't exonerate the president. as a number of democrats calling for impeachment grows house speaker nancy pelosi isn't convinced it's the right move just yet but says all options are on the table. another day of severe storms, rain, flooding slamming kentucky as dangerous weather continues to move across the country.

good morning, everybody. it is thursday, may 30th. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside nbc news white house correspondent jeff bennett. on wednesday special counsel bob mueller stepped away from what appears to be in his final job in law enforcement ending a long career in public service that includes combat duty in the u.s. marine corp, multiple postings as a federal prosecutor and 12 years as the second longest tenured fbi director in history. yet mueller used his last detain office to break his two years of silence, making his first comments since his may 2017 appointment to lead the russia investigation. the special counsel cited the constitution all but suggesting it is up to congress not the department of justice to hold the president accountable. and gave voice to the written findings and decision-making in his report. after more than two months of spin from attorney general barr, president trump and the white house. listen to this.

>> we investigated efforts to obstruct the investigation. the matters we investigated were of paramount importance in which critical for us to obtain full and accurate information from every person we questioned. when a subject of an investigation obstructs that investigation, or lies to investigators, it strikes at the core of the government's effort to find the truth and hold wrong doers accountable. the department's written policy explains our handling of the obstruction investigation. the opinion says that the constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing. the report describes the results and analysis of our obstruction of justice investigation involving the president and as

set forth in. the report after that investigation, if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said so. under long standing department policy, a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. that is unconstitutional. even if the charge is kept one seal and hidden from public view that too is prohibited. special counsel's office is part of the department of justice and by regulation it was down by that policy. charging the president with a crime of not an option we could consider. >> so minutes after robert mueller head his public statement, president trump responded on twitter. nothing changes from the mueller report. there was insufficient evidence and therefore in our country a person is innocent.

members of the president's inner circle also responded. >> if you take that analysis that he can't indict or give an opinion the reality is we just wasted two years. he did give an opinion. the opinion is no collusion, no obstruction, pal. if bob mueller had determined that there was a crime he would have had a moral obligation to report it, to put that into his report. he didn't. >> you're saying congress has no reason to impeach the president? >> we're always prepared. i don't think the american people deserve that. a growing number of democrats are calling for impeachment. at least 46 house democrats and one republican have called for opening an impeachment inquiry or a vote to impeach. that number includes ten members of the judiciary committee, eight democrats came out in

support of impeachment following mueller's public statement yesterday. house speaker nancy pelosi weighed in on mueller's report while speaking at an event in san francisco yesterday. pelosi said nothing is off the table including impeachment proceedings against president trump. >> this morning we all heard a very patriotic american make his presentation. while i have the deepest respect for him and thank him and i had team to present the presentation of facts that will further lead us to help us in the congress and in the courts, this is a very valuable contribution. i am gravely disappointed in the justice department for their attitude, their misrepresentation of the mueller report to begin with they are hiding behind something that you could never find in the constitution that the president is above the law, and the misrepresentations even under

another by t oath by the attorney general. nothing is off the table, but we want to make a case, an iron. clad case that even the republican senate wyatt times seems not to be be an objective jury, will be convinced of the path that we have to take as a country. >> joining us now from washington, national security reporter for the "daily beast," and here on set, nbc legal analyst. how substantial has this moment been for democrats in talking of impeachment? >> this could likely be a very big moment for the democrats, but i think given that they are on recess this week we'll have to wait and see what strategy comes out the door on the other end coming monday. what we saw, you know, from statements from pelosi and nadler yesterday is that they didn't really get anywhere close to mentioning impeachment

yesterday. we saw a lot of other democrats, you know, mention that they were supporting the impeachment process, but what the "daily beast" has been following over the past six weeks or so is this growing frustration among other democrats, especially junior democrats who are growing increasingly frustrated at leadership about not taking a step to begin those impeachment proceedings. i think what we're hearing now is they said time's up, the case has been made, it's time to go. >> what do you make of the timing of mueller's investigation. he said the investigation is complete. he's the going to retire, go back to private life. what kind of impact would this have had weeks ago before the attorney general had a chance to put his own spin on it. >> it's hard to go back in time and try found what may have happened. i think, for sure, how the american public reacted to the publishing of the mueller report would have been quite different if the special counsel had come out and said what he said

yesterday rather than having attorney general bill barr come out and put his spin on it. i think it would have impacted the way congress itself and democrats on the hill would have moved forward, you know, not necessarily with impeachment proceedings but maybe thery -- the rigor of continuing these investigations and making the case for impeachment. >> danny talk to me about the major takeaways you have. >> there are three. number one mueller seem to respond to the president's assertion he was totally exonerated and essentially rebutting that saying take a close are look at my report. that's not exactly what happened. also his message is i don't want to testify. if you call me i'll come in and eimplying we'll just do a read along with my report because i said everything i need to in my report. then finally he's essentially saying hey not for nothing but that whole part about russian

interference in the electoral process that happened and that was a huge product of our investigation leading to multiple indictments. this was his final statement. we're studying like a religious text his words as to whether or not the president was exonerated or not and there's some mystery as to why he chose to make a statement like if the evidence had exonerated the president we would have said so. that's not traditionally the role of the prosecutor, but this is not traditional -- >> but felt so compelled by what the attorney general put out there. >> his general duty, this is someone who follows his duty and he felt like he was obligated to investigate even though he could not indict. also this appears to be a response to what he perceives as barr not exactly stating his words correctly earlier in barr's testimony to congress. >> jeff? >> danny, mueller tried to

refocus our attention on the big picture and that's russia's interference campaign and attempts to help donald trump win the election. what did you make of his comments on that regard? >> i just mentioned. i thought that was so compelling. at the very end of i had statement he he says essentially by the way folks we've been focusing on this obstruction thing. did you notice all the indictments and all the russians and election interference i found. that was my mission. that is what i found. sure enough there it was. he didn't say it in those words, he's much more subtle than that. he added that at the very end of his statement. it was so powerful but we, of course, are focused on the obstruction prong mueller was trying to redirect our attention to another important prong of his investigation. >> thank you both. we'll talk to you again in a bit. more 2020 democratic white house hopefuls are weighing in on whether president trump should be impeached. we'll show you where the

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tornadoes, as we go through and look at the calendar, we now had 491 tornado reports this may and we're only three days have we had no tornadoes reported anywhere in the united states. so it's been a very active period. we'll get a confirmation on all these and complete numbers as we go through the next couple of weeks. 24 tornado reports yesterday. here's the ones we showed you down here towards the dallas-ft. worth area. weak tornadoes up in iowa. cold air funnels closer to -- not associated with super cell thunderstorms that we've been dealing with in the last couple of days. so what will we deal with today? we don't have the big tornado threat like we had the last couple of days. scattered severe storms in west tax. mainly large hail. this afternoon for the third day in a row we're going to get a line of storms forming in areas of ohio, kentucky and west virginia and those will roll through pennsylvania, maryland including areas like washington,

d.c., baltimore, philadelphia, maybe new york city and definitely through southern half of new jersey, maybe even isolated tornado or two. here's the timing of this mess. at 11:00 a.m. heavy rain southern ohio. we track the storms through pennsylvania this afternoon. by 5:00 p.m. another rough evening commute with severe thunderstorms possible from d.c., baltimore, philly, new york. airport delays will also be with those storms. rained so much that we have 25 million people at risk of flash flooding too because the ground just soaked all the small streams. i don't think we'll get the destruction or devastation that we had the last couple of days but at least there's potential for invention. things get better tomorrow. let's go back to the conversation with regards to bob mueller. two more of the 2020 democratic presidential candidates have now thrown their support behind beginning impeachment proceedings against president trump following bob mueller's comments. kirsten gillebrand and cory booker have gone on the record supporting the move joining

julio castro, kamala harris, and elizabeth warren. eight of the democrats 2020 candidates said they would be open to impeachment proceedings against president trump including joe biden, amy klobuchar and bernie sanders. five of those in the democratic field have said they are against the idea that includes montana governor steve bullock who will have more on this on "morning joe". joining us now from washington, elaina schneider. thank you for joining us. how have mueller's comments yesterday impacted the democratic primary field strategy? >> well i think what you saw is two of the major candidates coming out and saying they would be backing impeachment proceedings. i think this ratcheted up the pressure on 2020 democrats as they move forward on this impeachment question. i was out in iowa over the weekend and there's just a smattering of questions around

the mueller report and impeachment. but as soon as mueller took to the camera this is another opportunity for activists to ask these candidates to take a stand. kirsten gillebrand and cory booker make their stance on this much more clear saying they were going to move from just laying it off on house democrats and saying they themselves supported impeachment proceedings. >> let's talk about house democrats. 46 house democrats and one republican calling for impeachment. what do you think the next steps are in these ongoing investigations into the president? >> look, i think we got a peek of what is certainly going to come from nancy pelosi, which is basically she's unmoved as of yet. and she's going to continue to try and hold the line until at least for the time being around impeachment. look, the congress is on recess. we'll see them coming back next

week. it might be a completely different tune coming out of them because at this point the pressure might be too great for nancy pelosi to hold back her caucus in terms of keeping them all on the same page around impeachment and the pressure might be just too much. nancy pelosi as of right now still appears to be unmoved on her position on impeachment. >> thanks for your time this morning. still ahead house speaker nancy pelosi criticizes facebook for its refusal to take down altered videos of her. we'll show you her comments coming up next. sun care is self care.

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defend its choice to keep it but heeflly reduced the video's appearance citing the company only removes content if it's posted bay fraudulent account or poses a threat to public safety and not simply because the content is false. facebook has not responded to pelosi's comments. the white house wanted the u.s. navy to move the war ship the "uss john s. mccain" out of sight in his visit to japan. nbc news has not seen that e. mail. may 15th email sent to us navy and air force officials to outline plans for trump's arrival to japan, included instruction the "uss john s. mccain" needs to be out of sight. photos reviewed by the journal showed a tarp hung over the ship's name ahead of trump's visit and sailors were reportedly directed to remove any covering from the ship that

bore its name. it was claimed that sailors wearing caps bearing its name were given the day off. in a statement this morning acting defense secretary said this, i never authorized any action around the movement or activity regarding that ship. furthermore i would never dishonor the memory of a great american patriot like senator mccain. i would never disrespect the young men and women that crew that ship. for his part president trump tweeted he was not informed about anything having to do with the ship. naval officials insisted they did not hide or obscure the ship saying the picture of the tarp is from friday and taken down on saturday. all ships remained in normal configuration during the president's president. still ahead much more from bob mueller's public statements. how it stands in contrast to what attorney general bill barr said in the past. john bolton ramps up the pressure on iran, excusing the country of carrying out attacks on four ships in the persian

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welcome back. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside nbc news white house correspondent jeff bennett. it's the bottom of the hour. special counsel bob mueller spoke out yesterday and although he said he believes attorney general barr acted in quote good faith by at first only releasing an interpretation of the report mueller's words about the investigation, its findings and

even his disagreements with how the justice department rolled them out stood in stark contrast to the attorney general's. take a listen. >> reports have emerged recently, general, that members of the special counsel's team are frustrated at some level with the limited information included in your march 24th leader. do you know what they are referencing with that? >> no, i don't. i suspect that they probably wanted more put out. >> at one point in time i requested that certain portion of the report be released. >> the deputy attorney general and i concluded that the evidence developed by the special counsel is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense. >> the constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing. >> so special counsel mueller also implicitly respond to

president trump's prolonged attack on the integrity of his office. with republican prosecutor rejecting trump's unrelenting and false accusation that his investigation was staffed by quote 18 angry democrats. watch this. >> before i step away i want to thank the attorneys, the fbi agents, the analysts, the professional staff who helped us conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. these individuals who spent nearly two years with the special counsel's office were of the highest integrity. >> during his remarks yesterday robert mueller also discussed the possibility of whether he'll go before congress to testify about his investigation. >> there has been discussion about an appearance before congress. any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. it contains our findings and

analysis and reasons for the decisions we made. we chose those words carefully and the work speaks for itself. and the report is my testimony. i would not provide information beyond that which is already public in any appearance before congress. in addition, access to our underlying work product is being decided and a process that does not involve our office. so beyond what i said here today, and. what is contained in our written work, i do not believe it is appropriate for me to speak further about the investigation or to comment on the actions of the justice department or congress. now two of the house's top democrats weighed in on whether they still want to see mueller come before congress despite his resistance to the idea. >> will you subpoena mueller to testify? >> mr. mueller told us a lot of

what we need to hear today. it's very important to be clear on what he told us, on what the sps special prosecutor told the american people. >> i think bob mueller as reluctant as he clearly has to testify has one more duty to perform for the country and that is to come before the congress and answer the questions the american people about his report. >> joining us now national security reporter for the "daily beast" and on set danny cevallos. where does this leave democrats in their push for mueller to testify? jerrold nadler was asked twice whether he'll subpoena mueller. he side stepped the question entirely. >> that's right. so what we do know that the negotiations between democrats on the hill and mueller's team in regard to him testifying are

still ongoing. that process has not broken down, as far as i'm concerned and my sources are concerned in the past 24 hours. i think that those talks are still ongoing and we'll have to wait and see next week once congress comes back how that process will move forward. there's possibilities that mueller will come in to testify or maybe some of his deputies but i think the thinking here, strategy wise for democrats even if mueller comes in and only talks about the report and nothing else, that will still be a win for the democrats because most of the american public has not read the mueller report. just getting him in to talk about the report in their eyes is important. >> that's interesting. joe scarborough tweeted this out yesterday. have bob mueller come in and read the entire report all 400 plus pages of the report so the american people can understand exactly what was in the report those ten instances that were

laid out about possible obstruction of justice. you and i have talked about this on numerous occasions. if we see bob mueller testify on the hill would he testify as a private citizen or employee of the justice department. now we know he's a private citizen as of yesterday. how is this going to change the came, if in fact he does come to testify on the hill? >> once an employee leaves the justice department, leaves the executive branch the power of the executive branch to control that person's testimony diminishes significantly. in fact it could be said they have no power over that person to prevent them from testifying. mueller made it very clear he has no interest in testifying. and ironically that may have been the thing that compels him or indinduces congress to ask h to testify. i totally agree with erin's point in this case because most americans have not read the mueller report it would benefit

democrats if he simply came in and read out loud like an audio book his summaries so the american public can see him and hear what most us have not read. >> what did you make of mueller's specific nod to the integrity of his law enforcement agents in this investigation >> that's standard. any time you see a law enforcement press conference when they announce an indictment they go through and thank all the folks on their team. that's a law enforcement tradition. law enforcement always stays -- they are a quasi military organization. they look at each other as a band of brothers and sisters. they are in this together. it's a very common thing to see at a law enforcement press conference to thank all the folks that made this indictment possible. obviously this isn't an indictment but that's just the example i'm giving. >> we touched on this a little bit earlier. let's talk a little bit about the timing of all of this. and why it was that mueller chose to make this statement

yesterday versus earlier on or really even. before bill barr came out with his memo when the mueller report was first released. >> the timing of this is very intriguing. . what we do know from our reporting over the past couple of weeks is as i said earlier these discussions between mueller and the department of justice about testifying have been ongoing and i think there's been some hold off on mueller's end to speak publicly in anyway about the report or whether he'll testify and i think on his end and in the department of justice our sources are saying that they wanted the process to unfold the way they wanted it to unfold. they wanted barr to get out first and they wanted to control the narrative. i don't think mueller thought it was his place to be coming out first. i think he was following orders. as we know about mueller, he follows orders, he's a very sort of by the book guy. and i think now that he's come out, you know, he wasn't ready

to come out until he was ready to leave the department of justice. i think this is probably as he said during his conference yesterday the last we'll hear from him. whether or not he'll testify we have to wait and see. >> aside from president trump the other big takeaway from mueller's comments yesterday was about russia's election interference in 2016. you cover national security. do you see a serious effort at any level of the administration or in congress to secure our elections next time around, 2020? >> i thought mueller's last two sentences were remarkable. we have not heard that from an official in the u.s. government to date, at least not in that way. i think he used the word systematic interference by the russian government in our political system. we reported at the "daily beast" in the past six months or so efforts inside the department of homeland security and the fbi to get in front of this for 2020, but we do know is that process has broken down. at least in the department of

homeland security the unit that is responsible for this has, you know, sort of shifted and, you know, disbanded and then add more people. we do know the fbi, however, has been really out in front about this for 2020. you know, we're still unclear what's actually being done to prepare for the next election and as we saw in the 2018 mid-terms there is ample evidence that the russians did interfere in that election. i think this is a pertinent issue and one being actively discussed within the national security circle and in the next couple of months or so we'll see remarks from some of these agencies about where they are now and what's coming up and what they are doing prepare for 2020. thank you both. andrew miller former aide to roger stone has agreed to testify before a grand jury initially used by special counsel robert mueller's investigation this week according to his attorney. miller who has fought the subpoena for nearly a erdecided

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storms. west texas could deal with large hail and damaging winds. from west virginia, southern ohio through pennsylvania, washington, d.c., baltimore, philadelphia, maybe as far as north as new york city strong thunderstorms will roll through once again today. i don't know if we'll deal with a lot of tornadoes but we'll have damaging winds. because we had three days in a row of storms rolling through pennsylvania much of the state is under flash flood watch along with areas of new jersey that includes newark area but not new york city. another one to two inches of rain is possible. we'll transition into a huge destructive slow moving disaster throughout the midwest. this is all of our rivers that are at major flooding. from the tulsa area on arkansas river to fort smith record flooding. now we have three to seven inches of rain in the last two days along the illinois river and those forecasts are shooting up to record territory. all that water has to go into the mississippi.

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welcome back. acting defense secretary patrick shanahan is the latest member of the trump administration to break with the president after trump publicly adopted north korean plan regarding its recent string of missile tests. watch this. >> my people think it could have been a violation as you know. i view it differently. i view it as a man who perhaps

wants to get attention perhaps not. who knows. >> short range missile is that a violation? yes. >> short range testing by north korea as a security council? >> the short range testing, yes. >> that's different from the president, though, when he got up there, whenever it was, yesterday, i lost track of time, yesterday or the day before in japan and said i don't see this as a big problem. >> yeah, let me just be clear. these were short range missiles and those are a violation of the uncr. >> so national security adviser john bolton also says, quote, there is no doubt the missile test violated u.n. resolutions which prohibit the launch of any ballistic missiles, adding, quote, i know that because i wrote it. and the u.s. state department also said yesterday that not only are the tests in violation but, quote, the entire north korea wmd program is in conflict with unsc resolutions.

>> and the national security adviser john bolton has also issued a not so veiled threat at iran. yesterday in abu dhabi bolton told reporters that any attacks in the persian gulf will result in, quote, very strong response from the united states. that was echoed this morning by saudi arabia's foreign minister who called on members of the 57-nation organization of islamic cooperation to respond to iran with, quote, all means of force and firmness. bolton also said yesterday that there is, quote, no reason for iran to back out of parts of the 2015 nuclear deal unless it seeks nuclear weapons, even though tehran announced it would stop complying with parts of the deal exactly one year to the day after president trump unilaterally withdrew the u.s. from the landmark accord. and after trump reinstated and added new sanctions on tehran. >> interestingly, jeff, president rouhani actually called for a referendum on this just a couple days ago asking the public to vote on whether they should continue to comply

with the jcpoa or not. meanwhile, the united states has sent 900 troops to saudi arabia and qatar amid heightened tensions with iran. president trump said he ordered, quote, about 1,500 troops to the region. acting defense secretary patrick shanahan said 600 were already in the region and already having their deployments extended. yesterday national security adviser john bolton also said there had been a previously undisclosed attempt to attack a saudi oil port in addition to a string of attacks earlier this month on saudi oil tankers. he has blamed each of thesis dents on iran. while bolton didn't offer any evidence to back up his claims he did add, who else do you think was doing it? somebody from nepal? okay. coming up, axios' jim vandehei has a at this morning's one big thing. coming up on "morning joe" the special counsel breaks his silence. much more on bob mueller's comments disputing president

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joining us from here in washington with a look at axios a.m. is co-founder and ceo of axios jim hand high. jim, what's the one big thing you're looking at this morning? >> good morning. we are looking at how despite what we heard from robert mueller yesterday and this growing course of 2020 democratic candidates who are calling for impeachment nancy pelosi believes as stronger as ever that it's a fool's errand to go after impeachment. despite what happened yesterday

her entire leadership team is behind her, jerry nadler who runs the relevant committee is behind her. so i would say ignore a lot of the noise that you hear, a lot of the commentary, and just watch her and watch the people around her. if they continue to think it's a fool's errand and she thinks it would just hurt democrats long term and their chances of keeping the house, she clearly has the juice to hold back the passions. >> is there any sense that pelosi would eventually bend on this? >> she definitely does not want to bend. she really believes that if they are not talking about healthcare and other topics where they poll much better on that it hurts the party. i guess she would bend at some point if you saw a huge number of house democrats below her and some members of her leadership team start to bend, but even now with all of the hoopla you have about 40 house democrats who have specifically called for impeachment, it's about 20% of the caucus. so the vast majority of democrats are with pelosi and

biting their tongue even if they think they should go for impeachment. kind of ironic. we are at this crazy moment where you have nancy pelosi leading the charge against impeachment and you have a republican congressman amash in the house leading the charge for impeachment. it just sort of shows the calculations there. >> what are you hearing from other top house democrats in terms of their appetite for impeachment? i'm thinking of those key committee chairmen. >> listen, i think left to their own devices do i think jerry nadler thinks you should go all in on impeachment? he certainly i think would be more gung-ho than nancy pelosi, but they also really do listen to nancy pelosi. if you think about washington right now, she's clearly the second most powerful figure in washington, her grip on the party and on the house democratic caucus is tighter than ever. they keep pointing back to these polls and they are accurate that if you look at where democrats did best in 2018, it's when they were talking about healthcare, not talking necessarily about

trump, talking about healthcare, talking about jobs. so they're really trying to put the focus on that. that said, over time in some ways it does feel like this sort of slow motion process that could force her hand just because you've got every activist, every donor, so many of the 2020 hopefuls, everyone saying impeach him, impeach him, and at some point the question is all that pressure against her, does she continue to not break? every sign so far is she won't break. >> jim vandehei, thanks for your time this morning. we will see you again shortly on "morning joe." we will be reading axios a.m. in just a little while. you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. >> that does it for us on this thursday morning. i'm jf alongside geoff bennett, "morning joe," everybody, starts right now. under long standing department policy a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. charging the president with a crime was, therefore, not an

option we could consider. if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. >> that is the voice and the face of robert mueller summing up two years in about 20 seconds. good morning, welcome to "morning joe." it's thursday, may 30th. i'm willie geist, joe and mika are off this morning, off on a long planned belated honeymoon. they will be on the show next week from normandy, france, for the 70th anniversary of d-day. this morning we have with us mike barnicle, former aide to the george w. bush white house and state departments elise jordan. white house reporter for the associated press jonathan lemire. former chief of staff at the cia and department of defense, now than nbc news national security analyst jeremy bash, former u.s. attorney for the north