expecting things to get worse there. they say they are worried about some of the levees. nobody here expecting this to end any time soon. they say some places could see flooding into july. >> that wraps up this hour of msnbc live. andrea mitchell reports starts right now. >> great to see you. right now, russia, if you're listening. president trump slams robert mueller after the special counsel failed to exonerate him and admits for first time that russia helped him get elected. a tweet this morning which he quickly tried to walk back. >> russia did not help me get elected. you know who got me elected, i got me elected. russia didn't help me at all. the i word. nancy pelosi holds the line as more democrats call for impeachment proceedings to begin. >> many con spistituents want t

impeach the president but we want to do what is right and what gets results. >> to me it's a dirty word, the word impeach. it's a dirty, filthy, disgusting word. it had nothing to do with me. navy conceal. the president denies he had anything to do with the request to move the uss john mccain out of sight or hid it during his visit to japan. >> they thought they were doing me favor because they know i am not fan of john mccain. i wasn't a fan of john mccain. i never will be. i couldn't care less whether or not there's a boat named after his father. coming up, the late senator mccain's good friend and colleague with his reaction. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington where president trump began his day in attack mode unloading on robert mueller less

than 24 hours after he told the nation he could not exonerate the commander in chief after a two year investigation. >> i think he's totally conflicted because as you know he wanted to be fbi director and i said no. he loves comey. you look at the relationship that those two so whether it's love or deep like, but he was conflicted. i think he's a total conflicted person. i think mueller is a true never trumper. he's somebody that dislikes donald trump. t there was no crime. no obstruction, no collusion. there was no nothing. this is a from a group of people that hate me. if they only found anything, they would have had it. >> joining me now nbc white house correspondent peter alexander and jonathan lamire. peter, first to you. the president was fired up and ready to go this morning. >> reporter: you're exactly right. you have challenging hour ahead

because there's a lot of fact checking that needs to be done of the assessments that we heard out of the president's mouth this morning. his first reaction on camera to the mueller report. let's focus on what you started with there. some of those attacks on robert mueller. here is a tweet the president posted. the president wrote robert mueller came to the oval office along with other potential candidates. he had been in that position for 12 years. i hold him no. the next day he was named special counsel. a total conflict of interest. nice. chief strategist back in the day. told mueller's team of investigators. they told president trump that he wasn't conflicted. robert mueller was not conflicted and bannon's words were ridiculous. this is volume two, page 80 if

you're looking for it. he said other things that bannon did not come into the oval office looking for the job. andrea. >> jonathan, the initial point he then walked that back. >> this is the first time the president acknowledged that russia helped him try to win the 2016 election. let's recall, he repeatedly says time and time again. he did so on the lawn today that russia was in favor of hillary clinton. they wanted him to win even though we all remember in helsinki when vladimir putin said he wanted president trump to win. the president did try to clean up his comments in the tweets while making remarks on the

white house lawn. it's a startling moment to see. let's take it as a reminder. this is him acknowledging the 2016 leelections were interfere with. how very little they have done to prevent that from happening again. there's so few safeguards that have been put in place. >> just to follow up on that point, first of all, tom bossert, the cyber exert has not been replaced by john bolton. there's no one in charge of cyber security that we know of. there are reports in the new york times that kirsten nielsen complained after leaving that she was never able to have a cabinet level meeting post-2018 because the midterms were -- that russia was trying to interfere with the midterms. chris wrey in april said the russians ramped it up in 2018

and that's only a dress rehearsal for what we expect in 2020. there is bipartisan legislation that is dead on the hill because mitch mcconnell and the senate will not let it get a vote. since you were too modest to mention it have a little thursday flash back as to what happened in helsinki because i think it was you asking that question. let's watch. >> president putin denied having anything to do with the election. every u.s. intelligence agency concluded that russia did. my first question is who do you believe? >> my people came to me, dan coats came to me and some others. they said they think it's russia. i have president putin. he said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. i have great confidence in my intelligence people, but i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and

powerful in his denial today. >> jonathan, it has to start at the top if there will be an attempt to stop russia. they did one thing in 2018 on election day and the days while the votes were being counted, they took down the internet research agencies internet. they basically did the first that we know, offensive cyber attack from u.s. cyber command. >> the efforts have been minimal. the president's remarks from last summer remain striking and sort of for a president who is able to shake off bad headlines, able to dodge things that would have ended other careers. there are a few things that will stay with him, charlottesville and helisinki with his unwilling to side with the u.s.

robert mueller in his first remarks in two years he really underscored this idea that russia posed then and still poses a dangerous threat to our democracy, to our elections. he opened and closed his remarks yesterday at the department of justice warning americans that russia could do this again and urging the government to do more to protect the very fabric of our democracy. >> jonathan and peter, thank you both so much. this morning the president denied he had anything to do with suggestions that the navy hide the name of the uss john mccain when the president was visiting on memorial day. the ship was named for three generations of john mccain. his father and grandfather, both admirals and the late senator as well. >> john mccain, i wasn't a fan. i would never do a thing like that. now, somebody did it because they thought i didn't like him. okay. they were well meaning. i will say.

i didn't know anything about it. i would never have done that. >> well, on the view this morning, mccain's daughter said the president may not have ordered the tarp to be placed over the name but she holds him responsible. >> the president's actions have consequences and when you repeatedly are attacking my father and war heroes it creates a culture in the military are medium are fearful to show my father's name in one way or the other and that is what has started this chain of events. >> joining me is senator jack ra reed and was a close friend and colleague. your reaction to all of this. >> i think it's disgraceful to try to cover up the name of not just senator john mccain but his father and grandfather. all three were extraordinary naval heroes. for the president to say i

didn't know anything about it but it's well meaning adds insult to injury. it wasn't well meaning. i think, perhaps, the attempt the staff to prevent the president from having a tantrum if he saw the name. that shows not just the president's relationship to senator mccain but his combustible personality which is very much contrast to what is necessary to be president of the united states. >> do you have -- as a member of the armed services committee, do you have any yquestions about te navy. according to the wall street journal, the sailors who wear the caps with the uss mccain were given the day off, port leave so they were not visible while the president was there on memorial day. that's a navy order. >> we're looking into, making staff contacts now to determine what exactly happened.

if it was a decision, who made the decision and why was it made. was it a result of call from someone in the white house. perhaps not the president but someone in the white house. again, this is not the way to conduct an operation. not the way to conduct a visit by a prez den to a military facility. >> acting secretary shanahan is traveling overseas but this is a brief press encounter what he had to say. audio only. >> i never authorized. i never approved any action around thement or activity regarding that ship. furthermore, i would never dishonor the memory of a great american patriot like senator mccain. >> senator, is it your staff, armed services committee staff that's looking into what the

seventh fleet may have done. are you all looking into it? is it bipartisan? if you could give me the context. >> we initial lly heard today, most people did, i asked my staff to make calls. this is an issue that will come up again. i'm sure the issue will be raised. i'm confident it will be raised upon a factual record. we're trying to accomplish thes facts now. >> i wanted to share a tweet from pete buttigieg. only one of the candidates who wrote this is not a show. our military is not a prop. ships and sailors are not to be toyed for the benefit of a fragile president's ego. this is from a war veteran pete

buttigieg. >> i think those sentiments are on target. what we have to do to the men and women of armed services is not use them but flank them for their service. i was just in iraq and afghanistan about four weeks ago and one of the opportunities i took was to thank men and women from all our services for what they have done and continue to do. the temptation to use them as problems is something that should be avoided at all costs. >> based on what you heard from robert mueller yesterday, he started and closed his nine and a half minutes or so of remarks with warnings about russia. at this stage do you think there's enough evidence, for the house, to open up impeachment inquiries? >> i think the house has to continue their investigations. there's so much other material that would be essential that they have requested the tax

records of the president. i think th with the evidence they make a much better judgment. i think we are still in the stage of gathering evidence. the white house is doing everything it can to frustrate it, going to court, appealing court decisions. you don't do that unless you're concerned about what they might find. i think we have to have a more significant and more expansive factual record. >> finally, i know that senators klobuchar and others have something to do about russia. what you would consider minimal efforts in a bipartisan way and mitch mcconnell has never let this go to mark up. what is congress? what is the senate doing to protect against russia interference? >> we should be doing much more. the way the rules are set up is the majority senator mcconnell

has great control of what gets to the floor. this is a bipartisan concern. we should act promptly to get the legislation through the committee to the floor for a vote. we think it would receive support in the house and it would be a minimal step having a back up paper ballot so it would be confidence that the election was not manipulated. the other thing is that right now we don't have a permanent secretary of homeland security, so that's the agency most charged with coordinating with the states. that's in disarray. we have the fbi now being investigated for their alleged activities in the 2016 campaign. there are major counter intelligence arorganizations wi domestic issues. i don't think this is all accidental. i think it's a deliberate attempt to gum up the gears for the response to or preparation for the 2020 election.

>> i want to ask you about iran before i let you go. we have seen what i would not call a surge. we have seen 1500 troops being dispatched. some are reenforcements for patriot batteries. there are reports that john bolton will present the evidence about what happened to the tankers from iran. you've seen this already during the briefings last week to the u.n. security council. there were questions about our allies about the brits, australians and others. the so called five is. the president going to a state visit and says he will talk to te rresa may. he will raise the issue of the uk's involvement in what the attorney general is investigating and declassification and there are reports that our closest allies, the british, are nervous about sharing intelligence because they don't know what will be declassified by william barr

with possibly the objections of the dni because they've lost authority to the attorney general. what is your take on all this? >> it's a very dangerous situation. one of the key concerns in dealing with classified information is to protect sources and methods. the intelligence committee and intelligence community are very rigorous in trying to do that. now attorney general barr is able to go over and expose some of this information which unwittingly might reveal our sources and methods. our allies are concerned because we share intelligence with them under the premise that all of this would be very carefully guarded and, again, i don't think it's something that should be taken on as the attorney general is doing. my sense is that the fbi was conducting itself according to law. they are professionals and were

doing it because they flelt wel was a valid counter intelligence issue they had to deal with. >> senator jack reed, thank you very much. >> thank you. just a moment ago joe biden was asked about the uss mccain and dispute. >> any reaction to -- >> john mccain was a war hero. should be treated adds a war he. he is hero. he was friend of mine. we argued like the devil. we loved each other. we argued like the devil. we still abided by the sam value system. that's why i love john mccain. that's why i think we need a lot more john mccain's. >> what should the repercussions be to try to block that ship? >> thank, guys. >> thank you. >> what about impeachment?

>> i'm not going to go into anything. this is a ceremony here in delaware that we take extremely seriously. we have done it for since 1972. s >> joe biden is saying he won't answer about impeachment because he's at a memorial day ceremony which is an annual event. you heard what he said about the uss john mccain. he was a friend. they argued but he loved him. obviously, critical of this effort to hide the ship's name. coming up, democratic div e divide. house speaker nancy pelosi give in to growing pressure to begin impeachment proceedings against the president? stay with us right here on andrea mitchell reports right here on msnbc. l reports right here on msnbc. it's tough to quit smoking

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you guys be good i'llshe's gone.ter. it's a dangerous world. ah! [ grunt ] whoo-hoo! pops are your friends going to die? pickles don't be so dramatic. but yes probably. there they are. aww! whaa , whaa, ahh! pressure is mounting from house democrats for impeachment proceedings against president trump to begin now that robert mueller has said it's up to congress to investigate the president for all intents and purposes. nancy pelosi says not so fast. >> nothing is off the table. we do want to make such a compelling case, such an

ironclad case that even the republican senate, which at the time seems to be not an objective jury will be convinced of the path that we have to take as a country. >> this morning president trump dismissed the idea. >> i can't imagine the courts allowing it. i've never got into it. i never thought that would be possible to be using that word. to me it's a dirty word. the word impeach. it's a dirty, filthy, disgusting word. it had had nothing to do with me. i don't think so because there was no crime. >> joining me is white house correspondent for pbs news hour. kasie, it's great to see you. what happens now? all these subpoenas.

there doesn't have to be a crime. it can be all sorts of things. >> it's up to congress to decide. >> what happens next? they just continue with the flurry of isssubpoenas and gett success on some of the court cases? >> i think right now there's a lot of uncertainty among members of the democratic caucus who have moving toward being on the fence on this about what leadership really is going to do. i think it's going to take them all being back together in washington to really get a good answer to your question. the reality is, so far, nancy pelosi is really holding the line saying this will be our strategy and so far her leadership team has been with her. there were questions about whether jerry nadler was a little more aggressive than she was yesterday in talking about the mueller statement. there's a lot of pressure within the judiciary committee to launch impeachment proceedings. at this point, the majority of

her caucus still doesn't really want the go down this road. they are still nervous about the political implimplications. the big question is how much history, the idea this is an important moment that will last a lot longer than just these next two years is as a lot of these members think through what they want to do. >> the next question is what are they going to do about robert mueller. he made it clear he does not want to testify. here is what jerry nadler nadler h had the say. >> he makes clear obstruction of justice is a serious crime that strikes at the core of our justice system and the constitution points to congress to take action to hold the president accountable. that's exactly what we will do. the president's response to repeatedly to the american people and ignore all congressional isssubpoenas is immoral and unlawful. no one is above the law and we

will hold the president accountable. >> how is he going to do that? >> it's really in some ways up to them to see. i think there's this idea when you listen really closely to what robert mueller was saying, he was saying two things. if you you're a democrat you heard him saying congress, it's in your court. the court system in the way that the united states constitution is set up that we cannot accuse the president of wrong doing without going through another body. that being congress. then on the democratic side what you heard robert mueller say was this report is my testimony. i should not be -- i don't want to say anything more about this. i'm not going to be able to go beyond my report. i think what the president is gearing up for is this idea he thinks impeachment will help him. white house aides as well as trump campaign officials have told me very directly they think impeachment proceedings were to go against this president he would benefit. he voters would want to turn out in larger numbers and

republicans could ride that wave to bring back the house into their control. i think essentially it's going to be really tough for jerry nadler. he really did kind of not answer that question. are you going to subpoena robert mueller? that's a key thing that democrats in the house are going to have to answer. i don't think there's a clear way forward right now. >> there was a statement from congressman adam schiff. he says we look forward to mueller's testimony before congress. while i understand his reluctance to answer hypotheticals or deviate from the carefully worded conclusions he drew, there's a great many questions he can answer that goes beyond the report. that seems to me to indicate that he's talking about the intelligence community, not necessarily the judiciary and going into that separate track of counter intelligence. >> i think that's right. i do think that's a very good question because robert mueller,

yesterday, seemed to be addressing this identify of testifying in public. he seemed to be saying -- you may want the drama but i've got no new information. jerry nadler seemed to say we actually heard a lot from robert mueller. i think he did answer a couple of important questions that a lo lot of members had. there's a great many more questions he could answer in front of the intelligence committee behind closed doors. the counter intelligence is a very important one. it goes to the root of how all of this started and could provide more information about what exactly may be to help us explain why the president seemed so close to putin or other major questions like that. it seems to me it's still an open question if adam schiff were to subpoena robert mueller what might happen. that would be have a very different event than robert

mueller sitting down before the public and the judiciary committee and testifying in public. >> indeed. you're going to be busy. thanks to both you have. kasie will be back at 2:00 today and also must see tv. coming up next, fighting back. planned parenthood challenges missouri in court today as the state tries the close its last abortion clinic. e its last abortion clinic.

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a courtroom showdown in missouri could decide whether the state's last remaining abortion clinic gets the stay open. planned parenthood is suing the missouri health department alleging the agency was unlawfully holding up renewal of the license until the department completes an investigation into a patient complaint. the license is set to expire tomorrow and planned parenthood is requesting a restraining order in hopes of keeping the doors open. in the license is not renewed, missouri would become the first state without access to a single abortion service since 1974. joining me now is dr. lena nguyen. it's great to have you here in person. tell me more about what's at stake in this court case and the implications for the rest of the

country. >> this is real. this is not a warning. it's not a drill. it's not hypothetical. we could face this situation tomorrow where 1.1 million women of reproductivage in missouri is no longer able to access care and have to drive hundreds of miles round trip to kansas, to illinois just to get health care. i think it needs to be said this is a real public health crisis. that's why we're in court today so that we can keep on providing essential ehealth care to women in missouri. >> explain the health care that's so critical. will other planned parenthood facile tiities be open in the s? >> there are other facilities including planned parenthood that provide the full range of reproductive health services in missouri but only one health

center that can provide abortion care left in missouri and that's because of regulation upon regulation that the state issued that single out and target abortion care as something other than what it is. the state has forced a 72-hour waiting period. they have mandated that hallway vs to be a certain width. even requiring multiple invasive pelvic exams for women. things that are not medically indicated and are bad medicine. we have complied with all of these regulations because we want to provide medical care. now the governor signed a bill into law that's week that's one of the most extreme abortion bans in the country with no exceptions for rape or incest. criminalizing doctors for up to 15 years for providing care and now he's weaponizing the licensing process to try to shut us down. >> we had an interview that our medical doctor had done in missouri. i wanted to play a bit. he's the director of this clinic. >> if the state had a concern

about the safety of the health care we provide, the department of health can stop us from providing the care that day. i'm not sure why they have chosen to wait until our license lapse or make it impossible to comply with the license renewal proce process. i'm not sure why the governor felt he had to get involved in the practice of medicine today. it's clear the governor and department of health are using this regulatory process to try to eliminate abortion care in the state of missouri. >> are you concerned that missouri is just the beginning, the leading edge of this effort to bit by bit chip away at abortion services in state after state where there are republican governors and legislatures? >> yes. i'm deeply concerned. we could very well have a situation by the end of this week where an entire state in the country could go dark with no abortion being legal and accessible to women in that state. we're seeing extreme attacks on

abortion care happening all around the country. that are so extreme they would put doctors in jail for up to 99 years in alabama. no exceptions for rape or incest. banning abortions before women know they are pregnant. this is part of a coordinated attack with trump in the white house, with kavanaugh on the supreme court to overturn roe versus wade and ban all safe, legal abortion in this country. >> thank you very much. it's great to see you and thanks for being with us today. coming up next, the contenders. where the democratic candidates come down on impeachment. reaction from the trail coming up including jay inslee who joins me next. inslee who joins me next. and they'll say, "grandpa just tell us about humpty dumpty". and you'll say, "he broke his pelvis or whatever, now back to my creamy heinz mayonnaise". heinz mayonnaise, unforgettably creamy. you get the freedom of what a 7-day return policy. this isn't some dealership test drive around the block.

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♪ there, that's hard. ♪ i think the right thing above and beyond the politics of it is that we do what the framers intended, which was to have oversight over the executive and hold them accountable because nobody is above the law. >> act now or lose our democracy forever. that's the choice before us. >> it is our constitutional responsibility as members of congress to bring a judgment of impeachment against this president.

>> i think it's fair inference that bob mueller was referring impeachment to the united states congress. >> this is as close to as impeachment referral that you could get under the circumstances. >> robert mueller signal to congress when he could not spark a flurry of calls from several of the 2020 democratic kan candidates. putting more pressure on speaker pelosi and joining me is jay inslee. great to see you again. >> thank you. >> i want to talk to you about your signature issue climate change and the awareness you brought to that issue. the centerpiece of your campaign, if you will. i want to ask you reaction to robert mueller, his statement yesterday and the whole question of impeachment being front and center for many of your colleagues. where do you come down?

>> i just heard that trump tweeted impeachment is dirty and disgusting. what is dirty and disgusting is lying to the people and the congress. i believe the course he is on making impeachment inevitable. there's no other option to preserve democracy. as you indicated, i'm not waiting for congress. i'm moving forward to defeat him because we need to defeat climate crisis. i intend to do that. >> one more question about that. what if the house committees keep getting blocked by the president. he won't provide document, witness, current aides, former aides. what if they are at a stand still there? should they proceed and make that one of the articles of impeachment? >> yes. the moment that he impedes this investigation, articles of impeachment need to be filed because that may be the only way to goat to the bottom of this. there's so many potential

depravations of this president. there's so many rocks that need to be turned over. the moment they are impeded, then they need to convert this to an impeachment inquiry. i am glad they are being aggressive. americans need that agrex in the pursuit of justice and truth. i believe that. >> i want to ask you about climate. what we see is throughout the administration an effort to strip language about climate change, global warming from documents, from departments. the national security council has stripped references about climate change. in speeches they are cutting off the future assessment at 2040 rather than the end of the century. the replacement of key scientists and career public servants with coal lobbyists and others from the industry, how to you redress this? >> defeat donald trump.

i'm up to that task. i understand how deep the climate crisis is. i understand what a great economic engine of growth it is. i understand what he's doing now. he's taking science. this science was paid for by the american taxpayers. these physicists and kmchemists have created this body of science that's irrefutable and now donald trump wants to ignore physics and chemistry. the next thing he will try to repeal the law of gravity. we cannot allow this to pass. we have to elect a president with a vision and i have one. i'm proud that my plan for eight million jobs has just been called the best by green peace and climate advisers, the sunshine movement have concluded that my plan for economic development to defeat the climate crisis is the most aggressive, the most comprehensive and the most

effective in joei ingrowing job. i'm proud of that. this is our last chance and it's our best chance. i've developed the best economy in america as governor of the state of washington in part because we have adoped clean energy plan. we need to get going. we need washington state to take back to washington, d.c. >> there's a perception among many democrats and candidates that when you talk about combatting climate change, you'll be writing off whole areas of the rust belt that you have to win in order to take back the white house. how do you persuade yunion workers and others that it's not going to cost jobs. >> this isn't the rust belt. it's the clean energy belt. it's uaw members making electric cars in michigan. it's machinists making wind turbines in iowa. it's folks in illinois making

whole new technology. i visited a company in chicago that has whole new ways of making energy efficient. wind industry. they are going like crazy across the nation. look, we flipped five seats while i was chair of the democratic governor association last year. wisconsin, michigan, minnesota, illinois and kansas because we had candidates that understood the job creating opportunities for machinists and carpenters and laborers and ivw members rebuilding our homes and businesses. i just passed the best law in america so we don't waste energy. i just passed the first law in america to get us off coal by 2025. this creates whole new horizons of job creation. that can speak to the people who have been in place where is the manufacturing industries have declined. this is the future. we need to seize the future. we need these jobs to be here, not in china. just in china or germany. we understand that future.

donald trump is wrong. wind turbines do not cause cancer. they cause jobs. i've got a vision statement to bring those homes right down the heart of america. >> a lot of this also has to do with messaging. you've got under secretary of energy but they put out a press release talking about natural gas exports in texas as freedom gas. i'm wonder about that kind of branding. >> sometimes you think you read about these things their in the onion that are just a bad joke but them calling gas, freedom gas reminds me of the freedom fries back in the iraq war days and i was opposed to the iraq war. we have to understand that the science is clear on this. we need to wean ourselves off of

fossil fuels. my plan would create eight million jobs over next decade to really build the new jobs and industries of future. donald trump, isn't draining the swamp. draining the swamp, he hs brought the alligators in charge of our energy and he doesn't understand. we're a can-do nation. we're looking for a unifying mission. a new mission like we had when we said that we were going to the moon. and that unifying mission will grow jobs and bring science to the white house. and i'm capable of doing that. i think the american people are ready for that message. >> governor inslee, thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up, mixed messages. how the attorney general's original claim about be on instruction doesn't quite jive with what robert mueller said yesterday. we'll break it down for you. erd. we'll breaitk down for you.

it was to me the same as the report. and there is no obstruction. you see what we're saying. no obstruction. no collusion. there is no nothing. nothing but a witch hunt. >> president trump down playing robert mueller's remarks without acknowledging some key differences between what we heard from mueller on wednesday and from attorney general barr in april. ours before the mueller report's public release. >> if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. >> he was not saying that but

for the olc opinion he would have found a crime. he made it clear that he had not made the determination that there was a crime. >> the constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing. >> the deputy attorney general akon colluded that the evidence developed by the special counsel is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense. >> joining me now, joyce vance and also matt miller. welcome both. matt, first to you. there is a dissonance there between the attorney general and robert mueller on whether or not sf not f if not for the office of legal con still reconstruction whether mueller would have had other options. >> yeah, they are trying to pin

what he said. and that is probably right. technically what he said, that mueller didn't say we determined that the president committed a crime, is technically accurate. but what the attorney general left out in his statement was context and causation. if you listen to his statement in context, you would think -- you would come away believing that bob mueller didn't make some determination for some reason, maybe it was too difficult, maybe the call with a too close. and in fact there was an element of causation. he said in his report that was later released and in his press conference yesterday the reason we didn't make a difference is because the olc memo sells us we can't. and it is so important because it goes to the question of what is next. if bill barr's view prevails, the case is closed and what is what the president wants you to believe. what bob mueller said is that the reason that olc opinion leaves this way is because it is up for the congress to decide what to do next. that means the case is not closed. >> if i'm correct i think rod rosenstein even of a per bill

barr was raising the question of we don't know why he didn't finish his job or maybe barr himself, suggesting that mueller didn't complete his obligation to make a prosecutorial decision. but miller is saying from the get-go going in, we knew we could got do that, that was not permitted. >> and he said something that i thought was misleading. when asked to do you believe mueller didn't make this determination because he thought it ought to be left to congress and barr said i hope that is not what he did because that is not our job as prosecutors. he knew well at that time because he read the report, so presumably he knew that mueller left that to congress. so very misleading statement by bill barr. >> joyce vance, where do you come down on this? >> i agree with matt, there was very fine legal hair splitting going on yesterday. and that joint statement that we

saw from the attorney general and the special counsel's office was very narrowly limited to the notion that mueller had talked about the olc memo itself as sort of the font from which all of this flowed. but when talking about whether or not mueller was able to indict, he knew going into that that that was the context. so whether or not the olc memo was technically what led to this decision, it was the context that shaped the goal. mueller was very clear that he was leaving this decision up to congress even more clear yesterday in an what some folks initially took away from the report. barr sets up this fake choice that it is a binary yes or no and that is not what bob mueller told us yesterday. >> matt, do you think there will be steps taken even in the judiciary committee to try to challenge the attorney general now? >> i think that they might. look, they subpoenaed -- they asked him to come testify once

again. he ignored it, said he doesn't want to testify because he doesn't want to be subjected to questions by counsel. i think that they are trying to make the decision what is the best way forward to build our case and they have decided that they wouldn't call bill barr in because they wanted to move on to some of the other witnesses rather than have the president's defense attorney present the case. but they have a lot of decisions to make about how do they want to sequence witnesses. do they want to make mueller testify or just enforce subpoenas against don mcgahn and others. >> and which way do they think they should go, joyce? >> i think what the american people need to hear first is the contents of the report. it matters less who it comes from and more that they get the unadulterated conclusions. >> thank you both. joyce, matt, thanks so much. that does it for today for this edition of andrea mitchell report. follow us on facebook and twitter. and here is ali velshi. >> thank you, have yourself a

greater afternoon. hello, everyone. it is thursday, may 30th, and we begin with several developing stories as we come on the air. first, an exclusive nb detailin agents apprehended more than 1,000 migrants who illegally crossed the border near el paso wednesday morning. this is the group ever to be apprehended. 1036, up significantly from the previous record set last month of 424. president trump has made immigration a cornerstone of his presidency and told reporters that he will be making a dramatic statement about the country's southern border with mexico. >> i'm going to have probably today a major statement on the border. this is a big league statement. >> i want to bring in julia ainsley who broke