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spare a thought for are the canadians and the those in the firefighter and on the run and suffering the effects of mass of unhealthiy air. it reminds us we are all in this together. on that note that's our broadcast for this friday night and this week. thank you so very much for being here with us. guided from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. e. thanks to at whom for joining us this hour. following a number of stories from around the country tonight including this terrible developing news out of virginia beach. virginia beach is a fairly big coastal city at the southeastern tip of variety on the beach obviously. on the border with north carolina. it's got a population of over 400,000 people. it's a good size city. in afternoon just past 4:00 p.m. a suspect described as a longtime city employee, a current employee walked into one
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of the town's municipal buildings and opened fir. officials tonight say the shooter killed 11 people across multiple floors of that building. though i have to tell you we are hearing reports the death tol may rise from 11 to a higher number. another six people injured and taken to the hospital. with 11 people killed this is the largest number of people killed in a mass shooting since november which itself is a remarkable thing to have to say. november 12th were shot dead in a bar in thousand oaks california. as of right now we know the death toll is 11 in virginia boech. this is the mayor of virginia beach bobby dyer. >> this is the most devastating day in the history of virginia beach. the people involved are our friends, coworkers, neighbors, colleagues. >> that is the mayor of virginia beach. the chief of police in virginia beach says the suspect worked
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for the virginia beach department of public utilities. the chief says the suspect stepped into the building that houses that public utilities department for the city among other city offices. he says the shooter then fired indiscriminately. again 11 people shot and killed on multiple there weres of that building. six additional people shot and injured. when police officers responded to the scene -- and they airport got there fairly quickly. the gunman reported i starting shooting at police officers. the gunman is dead he was shot and killed by police. one of the six people said to be wounded in the attack was himself a police officer. we believe it was a male police officer although we await confirms on that. but that officer was apparently saved from more serious for fatal injury by virtue of the fact he was wearing a bullet proof vest. so we do not yet have official identification of any of the victims or the shooter himself. the fbi and virginia state police have joined the investigation tonight. over the course of this hour we
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expect to hear more from officials in virginia beach. we'll bring you additional information as we get it, specifically i should tell you we are expecting a police press conference less than a half hour from now towards the bottom of the hour and will take that live when he it happens. you will want to stay with us for the latest information on that ongoing and terrible situation in virginia. which will we await the news conference which again will happen sometime this hour let's talk about some of the other news breaking tonight. including some surprising news from the courts that has to do with one of the senior figure f2 the trump campaign currently awaiting sentencing on felony charges. you might remember this time last week we got word of a new indictment related to the trump campaign. in man, stephen calk, the head of a small bank in chicago supposed to be a bank that catered to veterans. now during the trump campaign he turned his bank instead into the bank that amgdly bribed the trump campaign chairman paul
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march. you might remember some of the storytelling from manafort's trial. manafort was in a sticky wikt financially speaking during the campaign. he wint went to the little bank in again that spernlizes in loans to veterans. manafort isn't a veteran but asked for loans that he financially probably should not have been approved for. bank employees objected to his loan applications but the head of the bank stephen calk interceded and said manafort should get the loans even when he was caught falsifying documents to support the applications. even when he admitted to misstating assets and liabilities. calk said it was fine no problem. he green lit the loans why was he so kai excited to give away so much of the money to paul manafort, who again was not a veteran and who was asking the bank for so much money? manafort would ultimately become the single largest borrower and lose the bank millions and
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millions of dollars. why was stephen calk, the head of the bank psyched to do that. according to the indictment against calk he was so psyched to do that because manafort was accepting the millions of dollars in loans from stephen calk's bank basically as bribes. because manafort was hooking stephen calk up with the trump campaign. and this was the part sort of pitiful. you may remember our earlier reporting on the sew about the document that stephen calk sent to paul manafort listing the prospective roles he might want in the new administration. that's how he spelled it. perspectivive. perspectivive per din are rolls sore sommer assaults. the list of her rolls in the trump campaign or trump administration included ten cabinet positions. wow? or ambassador so any number of the 18 awesome country starting
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the uk second place france. sky is the limit. this guy was giving the trump campaign chairman millions of dollars why shouldn't he get to be deputy secretary of defense or secretary of commerce for that? but the specific job that manafort appears to have led this guy to think he was getting in exchange for these millions of dollars, specific job he really thought he was going to get was secretary of the army. we know because at one point mr. calk reportedly called the pentagon asking them why he wasn't getting briefings already given he was the incoming secretary of the army. he assured them he had the whole senior staff ready to go. who should they call to get names on the doors? it's pitiful this whole or did allegation. but it happened they really did try to do it. bribing the trump campaign chairman wasn't like a con. it was a good investment for a while. i mean manafort really did get stephen calk a gig on the trump
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campaign as economic adviser to the campaign. that happened and stephen calk did get a high level job interview at the pentagon. the trump campaign was parental well wired to pay off arranges calk's indictment in past week shows how manafort sent jared kushner known as transition official number one he sent jared kushner a recommendation that mr. calk be appointed secretary of the army. the next day jared kushner forwarded the recommendation to three other represent he was of the transition team recommending in fact that calk be considered. remember this is at a time when manafort was kicked off the trump campaign because of what was revealed about miss secretary ties to ukrainian oligarchs and russian interests. but parental he is deciding hos secretary of the army. manafort after contacting jared kushner felt things weren't going fast enough process. he contacted transition official number two to arrange in fact an interview of stephen calk to be secretary of the army. acre to the calk indictment,
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this was while manafort had another $6.5 million in loans penning from calk's bank. apparently he wanted to hurry that money along. transition official two advised manafort that another candidate was likely to be nominated for secretary of the army. but agreed to arrange for mr. calk to be interviewed for undersecretary instead undersecretary. so he didn't get secretary of the army. in exchange for bribing paul martin. but he did get an interview to be undersecretary, the number two civilian job in the united states army. because according to prosecutors that's what he believed bribing the trump campaign chair would pay for. quote after the $6.5 million loans closed as arrange by transition official two, calk in fact interviewed for undersecretary of the army. the interview took place on or about january 10th, 2017 conducted by three represent he was of the presidential team at the transition team manhattan
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offices. so we got that indictment last week. that indictment last week is about what you could apparently get from the trump campaign and the trump transition if you paid bribes to the trump campaign chairman during the campaign. that was last week. today we got newly unsealed documents related to trump national security adviser mike flynn awaiting sentencing. they also pertain to flynn's business partner who served as a senior official in the trump transition and is himself currently awaiting tril. these new documents show during the campaign not only was the trump campaign's top national security adviser secretly on the payroll of another country but the deliverable he was expected to produce for that foreign paycheck included statements by the republican presidential candidate defending that foreign country and publicly raising questions about a citizen of that country who lives in the united states that that foreign country wanted to mere. they were complaining -- the foreign country was dplang that
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flynn hadn't delivered on that yet. because apparently flynn was secretly being paid by that foreign country to make that happen. i mean, we knew before that flynn was paid by that foreign country. paid by turkey to do things like write op-eds defending the turkish government and aching this guy they wanted kprated who lived in the united states. flynn definitely did that for money. he compared the guy to osama bin laden and cash the check for it. but now we know he was also paid to get presidential candidate donald trump to make pro turkish statements and raise questions about the same guy. they wanted smeared during the campaign. and because of the newly unsealed documents we also now know he was paid by the foreign country during the campaign to try to find, quote, lengths/trails to the clinton foundation and the clinton campaign as well. to try to link this turkish guy living in the united states to terrorism, right calling him a new bin laden want to link the
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turkish guy living in the united states to terrorism and want to link him to the clinton campaign to hurt clinton. that particular tactic against clinton during the campaign that was bought and paid for by the government of a foreign country. by the government of turkey through its paid secret agent who was trumps national security adviser and the number two guy running the trump transition on intelligence issues who was also secretly employed by the foreign country the whole time. i mean, attorney general bill barr doing in new interview with cbs in which he says it was insplikable maybe just short of treasonous the fbi might have wanted to look at anything involving the trump campaign. yeah, i can't imagine why they might have wanted to do that. i mean, the campaign chairman quit after it was revealed that he was secretly on the payroll of ukrainian oligarch and russian interests. the justice department says he was accepting millions of dollars in bribes for in exchange for selling off the fop
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civilian driebs bribes in the u.s. army. one foreign policy carter page was believed by the fisher to be an active agent of russian government and took suspicion to federal judge to prove it another trump foreign policy advisers had weeks of advance notice the russian had stolen democratic files and emails before anybody else knew that. and his national security adviser his top national security adviser during the campaign, the guy who eventually named national security kwirz adviser in the white house was a secret paid foreign agent during the campaign and beyond. and then the russians started helping that campaign. and members of the campaign and the candidates's family started taking secret meeting with emissaries from the russian government. how dare the fbi take a look at that. i mean they must have anti-trump fant attics why would anybody see anything suspicious in that series of characters and events in that's just deep state wahooism. anyway, so the number two guy on
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intelligence in the trump transition, the guy who brags on his linked in page about miss role in selecting the cia director during the transition he is now awaiting trial due to start this summer that's where we got the details from the court about what turkey thought they were getting from him and from mike flynn from the people paying on the trump campaign and transition. flynn himself is awaiting sentencing. he'll be back in court before the judge in his case in a couple of weeks. on that point as of tonight i think it's also fair to say that flynn is awaiting what we expect could be a -- a brand-new explosion of temper from the judge in his case and it won't be the first time. a couple of weeks ago the judge in the michael flynn case ordered the government -- ordered prosecutors to release three sets of documents related to flynn's case. the first was the transcript of a voice mail that one of the president's lawyers had left for flynn's lawyer around the time everybody started to realizes
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that flynn was going to plead guilty and become a cooper. we had seen bits and he ises of the transcript of that voice mail in the mueller report. in the section on potential criminal obstruction of justice by the president. the pieces of the transcript in the mueller report read -- and i remember reporting this at the time right after the report came out -- that voice mail read like a kind of mafiaesque threat to michael flynn through his attorney saying hey, we know you're going to cooperate. we got to know what you're giving them on the president. i mean the or else was silent but implied. i say that this is sort of a mafiaesque thing as it appears in the mueller report because it literally starts with the president anticipates lawyer, let me see if i can't state it in starker terms. have you ever had like a pleasant conversation a non-threatening conversation with somebody starting that way. maybe if you had a painter. i could paint this for you in starker terms. anyway, so we had seen portions
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of that voice mail we had not seen the wire thing. but two weeks ago the judge in the flynn case ordered prosecutors to make the full transcript public. that was the first thing he ordered made public. the second thing he asked for, the second thing he told the prosecutors to release to the public were the transcripts of flynn's calls with the russians, the transcripts of flynn's calls about sanctions with the russian ambassador during the presidential transition. these are the calls that flynn pled guilty to lying to the fbi about. . third thing the judge ordered released to the public was you will a the portions of the mueller report that have to do with michael flynn. the judge said anything about flynn that's redacted in the report needs to be unredacted for the public now. anything blacked out of the report about flynn remove those blackouts show the public. so those were the three things. and those were not three requests from flynn's judge. those were three court orders for the voice mail, the calls with the russians and for
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unredacting the mueller report. well today was the deadline for prosecutors to hand that stuff over. and it kind of didn't happen. the first one happened. prosecutors did turn over the full transcript of that voice mail from president president's lawyer we now know is john dowd. now that we have the full transcript it does paint an even chlorer picture of how the president's attorney was in fact calling over to mike flynn calling flynn's lawyers to ask what flynn knew about the president. and what he was going to tell prosecutors about the president. and how flynn should know how the president felt about him. i mean, it does not change the tone. but we get more of it. quote, i understand your situation but let me see see if i can't state it in starnger terms. who talks like that? it wouldn't surprise me if you have gone on to make a deal and work with the government, if there was information it implicating the president we need some kind ever heads up for the sake of protecting interests. remember what we have always
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said about the president and his feelings for flynn. but, well, we know from the mueller report what happened after that voice mail. i mean we can see the full transcript of it. we know from mueller's account around -- describing the incidents around that voice mail we know what happened here is how mueller describes it quote flynn's attorneys returned the call from the president's counsel flynn's attorney reiterated they were no longer in a position to share information under any sort of privilege. according flynn's attorneys the president's council with was indignant and vocal in disagreement. saying he swrpted what they said to him as a reflection of flynn's hostility towards the president and that he plan foss inform his client meaning he planned to inform the president of that interpretation. flynn's attorneys understood that statement to be an attempt to make them reconsider their position. meaning, reconsider their decision for flynn to start cooperating with the government. so i mean kneeledless to say
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trying to intimate witnesses trying to prevent witnesses from cooperating with the government that is part of how you explain obstruction of justice to 3-year-olds. that's why that voice mail was part of robert mueller's obstruction of justice investigation into the president. well now we have the full transcript of that voice mail. this is how cnn and their excellent justice rohrer the katlyn pollens. transcript release add from trump lawyer showing possible attempt to obstruct. that's exactly what it is. this is really interesting. that voice mail transcript that was only the first of three things that the judge ordered the government to hand over today. the other two, the transcripts of flynn's calls with the russians and the flynn portions of the redacted mueller report, prrs basically took that order from the judge and said no, no urn you're not getting that. i didn't even know you could do that. i mean, today prosecutors told the judge that they wouldn't give the judge the transcript of
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michael finish flynn's calls with the russian ambassador. wouldn't give the transcripts to the judge or to the public. more would they turn over anything else from the redacted mueller report that talks about flynn. they told the judge in a written motion that all of the information in the mueller report relating to michael flynn has been unredacted every word. and that the other calls that he asked are for between flynn and the russian ambassador talking about sanctions in a strange at argument prosecutors told the judge that he snunt want to see those because they're not relevant. they're not relevant to flynn's sentencing. which is the portion of in case that they're in now. i mean, this is weird. but this is what prosecutors said tonight in explaining to the judge why they weren't handing every oh the transcript of flip's calls with the russians. this is the exact quote. the government is not relying on any other recordings of any person for purposes of establishing defendant's guilt or determining his sentence nor are there any other recordings
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part of the sentencing record. which kind of seems like refrigerator poetry that's beside the point. i mean, what they're -- what they're telling the judge here is no, urn with, court order sh mort order you can't see that. and this is kind of wild for a few reasons, right? first of all it makes you wonder who is overseeing the flynn prosecution at the justice department has that changed? also, judges orders are not optional. when a judge orders you to do something no matter which side of the case you have to do what the judge says. that's the point of a judge. they decide all things about a case. full stop prosecutors in particular usually try to avoid running afoul of a judge, particularly a judge they might have to appear before lots of times in the future. on its face it's a bold move by prosecutors here to refuse to turn over documents the judge explicitly asked for. but it's also kind of hard to wrap your head around why prosecutors say the calls between flynn and the russian
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ambassador are irrelevant to the proof of flynn's guilt or to flynn's sentencing. i mean when mike flynn made the calls to the russian ambassador during the trump transition they talked about u.s. sanctions on russia. mike flynn went on to lie about those conversations. he told fbi agents that he didn't discuss sanctions on those phone calls with russia. i mean that's the crime he pled guilty to, right lying to the fbi about the phone calls and what he talked to the russian government about. presumably if you are the government lawyers prosecuting this case, if you are trying to prove, right, that michael flynn lied on those phone calls, right he is guilty of that. he lied we he said he was not talking about sanctions, wouldn't a transcript or ard rowing of what actually happened on the phone calls kinds be the spine of your case in terms of demonstrating flynn's guilt? anyway this was kind of the shock tonight in the flynn case. it's still totally an open question as to what the judge will do about this now the prosecutors in his court appear
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to be defying his order without much explanation. i mean, judges are not told no all that often. i'm not sure what is going to happen next here. but i bet based on which judge this is it's going to happen fast. more ahead tonight. stay with us. fast more ahead tonight stay with us steven could only imaginem 24hr to trenjoying a spicy taco.burn, now, his world explodes with flavor. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day all-night protection. can you imagine 24-hours without heartburn?
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before president trump was inaugurated when david ignatian nashs at the washlt pds broke the new of secretary communications between the russian ambassador and the transition team. what did plin say and did it undercut the u.s. sanctions? well despite multiple denials from multiple people in the trump administration that flynn had discussed sanctions on his calls with the russian government, a month later the "washington post" reports that flynn did in fact discuss sanction was the russian government on that call. flynn was subsequently ultimately fired as national security adviser. and he ultimately pled guilty for lying lying for the fbi about the call. but for over two years wove been curious to get more information about what exactly flynn said when he had the conversation with the russian ambassador that he and so many other people in the trump transition publicly lied about. the call has been described in the mueller report and in court documents. but that's all we've had is sort
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of vague descriptions. a couple of weeks ago a federal judge demanded that prosecutors post a transcript of flynn's call with the russians on the public docket. the deadline for doing that was today. in a development i don't think any of us saw coming, prosecutors today basically refused the judge's order to hand over the transcript. telling the judge they don't think the transcript was relevant to flynn's guilty plea or to his upcome sentencing. and i'm not a lawyer but that seems weird, right. i mean, we know clearly from court documents that flynn's discussion about sanctions with the russians was absolutely 100% definitely at the root of flynn's guilty plea. the call would seem to be utterly relevant to the determination of his guilt. why would prosecutors refuse the judge's order to hand over the trip of that call? and what is likely to happen now? joining us now is devlin barrett national security reporter petition "washington post". nice to have you hear thanks for making the time. >> thanks for having me. >> let me ask you a basic almost
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logistical question first do we know there are transcripts of flynn's cull or calls with the russian government? do we know the calls were caught in u.s. government intercepts >> we know that but only from sources because the transcripts are still classified. and that's really at the hart of what the prosecutors decided to do here. >> when you say that prosecutors -- i mean it's hard for us to discern was prosecutors decided to do here because at least to me a non-lawyer reading the explanation as to the judges a to why they are not handing over the transcript it feels like legal refrigerator poetry they never say we are not giving you this because it's classified. we'd talk to you about in exparta or litigate it some other way. this isn't relevant you understand nudge nudge wink wink. what do you understand about what they're doing. >> the point is this. even the existence of the transcripts, even the existence of the phone calls, the recordings of the phone calls, look, the entire world knows the
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calls happened. the entire world knows they were ordered by, you know an intercept. but the problem for the prosecutors is that they have never publicly acknowledged that. even if you look at -- if you look at a a number of of court filings in this case at moimts where flynn says to the investigators i know you guys probably recorded this call anyway, that part is redacted in those documents. so the government is in this position of not ac knowledging the recordings case and then the judge says you have to make them public. the trick is that the judge does not have the north on his own to declassify stuff. and so the prosecutors are doing a kind of destiny maybe too coy and cute and here is the real problem. judge sullivan does not dance. he is a hard headed guy who wants what he wants and right away. the notion that judge sufficiently isn't quietly going away because the prosecutors sort of come up with a little linguistic dance around this issue is unlikely.
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>> also it occurs to me that judges -- frajs and all sorts of levels but federal district court judges must deal with classified information all the time. it's not that classified information only comes up in the fisa court it comes up in different court cases i would imagine. so if this is classified material, wouldn't you expect the prosecutors to essentially go into classified material mode and deal with the judge about it on those terms? injury that's part of what also seems puzzling here. >> yeah, but i think you have to think of this is the first salvo of the back and forth. it's likely the judge will come back and say something to the effect of -- exact point you make, look, guys you know what i ordered what's the issue? what's the deal? you know what i want. and then you may see i think one realistic scenario is that you may see sealed letter at that point where you have more of a let's call it an honest but closed door conversation about in material. but a lot of time limits when classified issues comes up -- come up in the courts what ends up happening is there is long
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back and forths between the agency that possesses the classified information and wunts wants to keep it secret and a judge who debates or considers you know pressing the government further to declassify. and again, a judge can press them to declassify but it's ultimately the agency call. in a lot of cases where classified information comes up, there is a long back and forth and this may be the impinge, the first round of a long back and forth over this. >> the person who probably has most at stake for the length of that back and forth is mike flynn. who doesn't technically have a sentencing date yet. >> absolutely. >> a joint status report he has in a couple of weeks on june 14th. if there is wrangling wean the prosecutors and the judge on something like this, or even potentially on the other thing they didn't hand anything over on which was in issue of whether or not there is other flynn related material that's redacted from mueller's report, if any of the stuff goes into the long boofrpgt you zroib there do you expect that would push flynn's
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ultimate sentencing off further? >> again, that's up to the judge. and this is a very particular judge who has very particular reputation for demanding more than other -- some other judges demand from the government. so it's up to the judge to decide if he doesn't like these answers and if that means he is going to hold up the sentencing for it. remember, one of the big unknowns here though -- i know we are focus ds on the particular flynn kizlyak conversations we know about. one of the things we don't know about is how much other conversations like this were recorded? because that's also in what the judge ordered to be made public. and that may be an even bigger problem in the eyes of the prosecutors. to be clear we don't know how large a group of calls that is. >>en a even if the judge does come to accommodation with prosecutors about him getting to see that classified information for the purposes of informing his own sentencing decision, that doesn't necessarily mean even the judge would be empowered to release that information to the public even
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at that point. >> right. >> fascinating. >> exactly kbl deaf devlin barrett national security reporter for the "washington post". you have made more sense about this than anybody else who talked about it all day thanks a lot. >> thanks for having me. >> more to get to a busy news night. i will tell you it's half past the hour right now and we are awaiting a press conference from local authorities who are expected to be providing an update on the shooting today that took place in virginia beach. as far as we know at this point, the death toll from that shooting is 11. six people in addition to the 11 killed were shot and wounded. . an incredibly tragic day in virginia beach happening late in the afternoon we haven't heard much from local authorities but expecting a briefing imminently taking a quick break and we will come out of the breck and get back live to the press conference if it starts while we are away. stay with us. tarts while we are away stay with us after walking six miles at an amusement park...
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authorities are expected to brief on what happened today in the mass shooting there. that was two to start at 9:30 p.m. eastern time. it hasn't started yet. we have eyes on that it's startling late process. we'll let you no he it gets going. there is another story we are watching this was very much down the wire. down to the wire as of tonight all 50 states in the united states of america still do have at least one legal abortion provider tloeft for a few more days. the great state of missouri as one remaining abortion clinic. today they were hours away from the state government rescinding the license as of maryland night have that happened missouri would have the decubitus distinction of being the first american state with zero legal access to abortion since ross v wade prohibited banning the prerd in 1973 the missouri republican controlled government has been chipping away at missouri access to abortion wherever they can. the latest effort has been to try to put the last clinic in the state out of business at midnight tonight. but this afternoon a skbr gave
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missouri's last clinic a reprove in the former of a temporary restraining order if from taking the license. they can stay open and provide services until tuesday when they'llen back in court. the judge was careful to say the court wasn't passing judgments on the merits of a controversy. that happens on tuesday when the judge molds a hearing to consider the governor's request for injunction to shut down the one and only abortion clinic the state hopes for good. joipg me now is the director of planned parenthood of missouri thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me first i wanted to say my heart goes out to the community of virginia beach that's awful. >> thank you for saying that. i should say to viewers that press conference gets started i may have to hit pause on our discussion in which case we'll come back to it because we don't know when that gets going. i saw your press conference today with colleagues at the clinic talking about the
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government's action and the -- the court's action today. what's your basic understanding about how this unfolds over the next several days and what's happening on tuesday? >> right. so we have a temporary victory here with a temporary restraining order that will stay in place until the judge issues ner ruling. he set tuesday as a hearing on the preliminary injunction. that would be our injunction seeking injunction against the state so that we can keep the listen in place. that would have expired tonight at midnight. so we're -- we'll have to wit and see how the arguments go. and then be waiting on opinions and needles for the judge's ruling. >> i wonder, because of in prospect that if your clinic is shut that missouri would have zero legal abortion providers within the entire state. i wonder if that eventuality itself might ultimately be seen by the courts as undue burden and missouri women's access to abortion which of course is
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protected which roe versus wade. regardless of the individual fights going on with in governor trying to shut you down. whether or not the disappearance of the services that are provided by your clinic itself might put the state in violation of that federal court order. >> that is a great point. and what governor parson has done is weaponize the health department to tray and do what many mates are trying to do through the legislator he is using the regulatory process to been abortion and put the government between women and their doctors in this important key health care decision making process. so i think the courts could find that. and that it clearly in our view is unconstitutional but you can see. many states are in this political race to get to the supreme court to change that standard. and what your viewers feed to know i think do know is that that political race has costs huge legal costs that we're seeing play out in missouri right now.
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but more importantly has tremendous human costs on the lives of the people who are seeking health care who will no longer be able to access it. >> what do you think will happen to your patients and to your broader patient population throughout missouri if your clinic is forced to stop providing abortion f2 your clinic is forced to shut down and there is no legal place to get abortion anywhere in the state? what do you think women will do? is there a post roe post abortion rights plan for the state? >> so there is a plan and what people need to know is that planned parenthood will do its best to make sure that you'll people get access to the health care they need. missourians already have to go through tremendous compelled unnecessary and horrible hurdles to access abortion. and of course it's only available at one abortion center that's still licensed to provide care in the state. so should that center lose its
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listen there will be an emergency plan to help patients access health care outside of the state. and -- but people feed to know that already missourian are facing tremendous challenges and we know the challenges impact people further away from the urban areas. so rural missourians, people with reporter ptacs, with rest ability and flexibility to move across state lines and take the time, the child care days off work to access abortion access. what governor parson is absolutely negatively impacting all missourian but certainly the most vulnerable are the hardest hit. >> what you describe, you mention the legal fight and expense around the legal fight what you describe there in terms of emergency plan if there needs to be a railroad effort in missouri to try to help women get out of state to get to places where they can access abortion care because they can't get it anywhere in the state. in addition to seem dystopian
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and radical it sounds really expensive. it sounds like you are in an expensive fight right now. and it sounds like the future may be very expensive, particularly if the courts succeeds in shutting you down. is that right for me to discern that? >> yeah there is significant costs all around. as i said, yes there are financial burdens that people will bear and that i want to say that i'm superappreciative of all the folks who have stepped up and troid to increase ability to donate or give. but i think the most important costs and the ones that we want to center are the negative impacts on people's lives. s in a safe, relevant kevon compelled proceed and we shall not be erecting tremendous barriers because they have negative consequences on people's lives. and that's the thing people really need to remember. think about what you would do when you were sitting down trying to get regular medical care and all of a sudden a politician governor parson comes
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barging in and says, no, you can't get that care. what does that mean to a woman who has been raped? what does that mean to a woman trying to finish her education? what does that mean to a woman facing terrible diagnosis about her pregnancy? that's what -- those are the costs that i'm concerned about and that missourian are flooding our phone lines with. >> m' vevie mead please keep us apprised over the next crucial days. >> thank you. >> and i believe we have now started the press conference in virginia beach about tonight's earlier shooting in virginia beach. governor northam at the podium you can see him surrounded by local officials let's go right there now. >> sorry at the podium here as i
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mentioned that the virginia governor ralph northam, democrat of virginia, to his left shoulder zoomed on him right from the screen that the governor of virginia beach. >> that is the hoffistic day for the commonwealth of virginia. our hearts ache over the senseless violence that has been inflicted upon the virginia beach community today. my deepest condolences and prayers go to the families of those who left home this morning and will not return tonight. they were all someone's child. and many were someone's parent. they were heading into the summer weekend. that they should be taken in this manner is the worst kind of tragedy. their families are facing painful loss and grief.
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they each leave a hole in a family, in their neighborhood, in in community and in our commonwealth. we mourn with their loved ones. but sympathy doesn't fill that hole. we must take care of these families. these horrific tragedies test our souls. grief doesn't pass quickly. it lasts far beyond these coming days. and these families will need support in the months and years to come. i'm also praying for those who were injured in the tragedy appear hoping for their full recovery. along with the pain of their own injuries, they face a loss of their coworkers and their friends.
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i want to commend the local and state law enforcement officers, the first responders, the medical teams and all others who acted swiftly to respond to this situation their actions likely saved lives. and they have experienced scenes and injuries no one should ever have to face. my thoughts continue to be with the victims and their families. to them and to the city of virginia beach, i offer the full support of the commonwealth of virginia. tonight we are all about virginia beach. i'd like -- now like to turn the podium over to our mayor of virginia beach, mayor dyer. >> today is virginia's beach's darkest hour. a senseless crime happened and
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imposed tremendous grief upon the people of virginia beach, the commonwealth and this country. when we get through the shock of it all and we get through the details that we must go through over the next day or two, i believe that our community, virginia beach, along with our neighbors and our other cities in hampton roads and our commonwealth and our country will be there for not only the families, because that's when they're going to need us going forward -- but we're going to show that virginia beach is a city of resolve and dedication. and -- we are going to be there for all the families, the
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friends and our community in a big way. and for that i thank you and would like to turn this over to chief cervera for an update. >> as i said earlier this evening, as we are able to gather more information we will give that information out. so this is the additional information that i have at this time. again, it will probably change a little and may increase as we move forward as we are investigating this case. right now we have a team of investigators, detectives from the city of virginia beach being assisted by forensic technicians from the fbi and the state police in processing this more horrific scene. we are in the process of identifying the victims and making notification to their families. i can tell that you we do have
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an additional victim to report. and we no you have 12. one victim succumbed to the injuries on the way to the hospital. we also have four additional victims being treated at area hospitals. and we have reports that others may have self-transported. as we get more information on that we will begin to release it. our process is always to notify family members prior to releasing names. we do note who the suspect is. we have not been ask successful in notifying certain family members. once we are able to do that we will release his name once. we're going to mention his name once. and then he will be referred to as the suspect. because our focus now is the dignity and respect to the victims in this case and to their families. i can tell you that when the initial call came out of an active shooter in building 2,
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building number two in our city houses information technology be public works and public utilities plus a printing operation. this building hag has the potential of having over 400 city workers at one time or other in the building. when the original call came out immediately four officers responded. two were seasoned veteran supervisors from the detective bureau. and we have two canine handles assigned to special operations unit. they immediately made entry to the building. due to the sound of gunfire they were able to locate the floor in which the suspect was committing his carnage. they immediately engaged with the suspect. and i can tell you that it was a long gun battle between those four officers and that suspect. we recovered a 45 caliber
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handgun with multiple extended magazines that were emptied at the time. the suspect was reloading extended magazines in that handgun fierpg at victims throughout the building at and at our officers. i want to nope that during that gun battle basically the officers stopped this individual from committing more carnage in that building. when the suspect went down due to his injuries, our officers then immediately rendered first aid as they were removing him from the building to the waiting ems personnel. i need to say that a second time. even though he was involved in a long-term moving gun battle with niece officers, when he went down they did what cops do and they rendered first aid to this individual. he succumbed to his wounds. we have found victims on all
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three floors of the building wells one victim who was outside in a vehicle. right now as many as 90 people have sought support from the family assistance center. and again we are in the process -- our goal now is to identify everyone in that building as quick as we can so we can make the proper notifications to the families of those victims. do we have any questions? >> chief, you were saying outside, what was the release to the victim outside? not the relation but you say there was a vehicle i just want -- >> an individual was in his vehicle when the suspect shot him. >> chief, there were reports this was a disgruntled employee. had he been recently fired were three indications of workplace problems. >> i have no information at this time as the background of the individual other than a city employee. again, as we work through all of this we'll be able to give more information at a later time.
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>> he was currently up until the shooting. >> that's correct. >> trying to understand what you are saying he started shooting victims outside before entering the building. >> there was one victim outside. he entered the building. armed with a.the 45 caliber handgun with a suppressor on it. >> i'm sorry. >> can you tell us more about the magazine. >> they are extend willing magazines. in other words they have more ammunition than the regular magazine. >> terms of the number, 12 people were killed. and then the fumble was the 13th person who was killed. >> we have 12 victims. and a deceased suspect. >> thank you, sir. >> chief were any of the victims targeted or was all of this random. >> at this time i can't comment on that as we work through the investigation. >> do we know if all victims were city employees. >> i cannot give that you
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because we are in the process of identifying the victims. >> yes. >> [ inaudible question ] >> well i originally reported we had 11 victims. >> yes 11. >> we have an additional. one victim did not -- succumb to the wounds on the way to the hospital or at the hospital. i'm told we have four others at the hospital right now going through surgeries. >> so my math -- >> your math would say we have 12 deceased. >> yes, sir. i apologize. i don't want to make an error in reporting. there were six injured >> i did. again that was the information that i had at the time. it's been updated >> now it's 10 injured. >> no. we have 12 deceased. >> 12 deceased appear four
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injured. >> currently. >> going through -- yes going through surgery. >> chief, have the police had the opportunity to search the shooter's home and have he they found anything of interest such as additional weapons. >> we are in the process of continuing our investigation investigation. >> were any other weapons found at the scene there were reports of a rifle there. >> we are in the process of continuing -- that's the best i can tell you at this moment. >> keefe can you elaborate more on the extensive gun battle between the officers and the shooter? >> i can tell you that there was numerous shots fired by the individual. shots were fired from various places down the hallway at the officers at one time returned basically their -- the ammunition they had so when we talk about this kind of a situation -- many times we talk about officers slofd shooting situation, it may be minimal rounds by the suspect and by the
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police officers. this was well beyond that. this was a long-term -- the bestky drieb it it was a long-term gun battle for police long-term gun battle for police officers. >>. [ inaudible question ] >> i can't give you seconds and minutes bus we don't have a stop watch when we're engaged. >> do you know the time of the suspect's death. >> i'm sorry. >> do you know what time the suspect died. >> shortly after we entered the building and confronted him process. the call came out right after 4:00 p.m. somewhere after that we don't have the act the context time. >> what security there around the governmentabling? are people allowed to enter the buildings with weapons? >> the individual in question is an employee. process he has access to the building. he came in with a weapon today. >> he would not have been checked. >> no, he would not have been. >> were any officers injured.
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>> one officer stained a wound during the battle. fortunately his bullet proof vest saved his life. and we did -- he was seen -- he was tended to at the scene. but then we beirut him to the hospital afterwards to make sure that everything is okay with the officer. >> chief, when you say suppressor, that a silencer, the same thing. >> it's a suppressor it's a sound expresser. >> was the gun recovered legally obtained. >> we are working through atf at this time it's part of our investigation sfl and police -- has your department recently -- i know in the past you prepared for a scenario like this. i mean, how recently was the last time you prepared for this. >> we train continuously. we train not only as first responders for police but train with fire and we train with our ems personnel. because we know that when you have a major scene like this you're going to need all first
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responders into that particular area we do train extensively both on what we call table top exercises as well as all hands on exercise in a building. so i can tell gnaw we do train extensively and how many weeks or months prior i can't give you exact number but our officers and our ems personnel and fire personnel are highly qualified. unfortunately in a situation of an active shooter case. >> so, chief, of the four officers there, two were detectives and two members. >> of canine, that's correct. >> thank you. okay, thank you. just one final thing. i've said it before and you heard the governor and the mayor speak of it. we have numerous victims. and we have numerous families. let's make sure that we keep their dignity and their respect as the number one piece of news
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that we're going to give out. and i know that our local media always abides by that. because their lives are changed forever. the folks working in that building, their lives are through what best could be right now who are processing through what best could be described as a war zone, their lives are going to be changed. thank you. >> thank you. >> could i ask a quick question. >> that's the virginia beach police chief giving an update on horrific mass shooting that took place today in virginia beach. there was an update on the death toll at the top of this press conference. the death toll had previously been 11. chief now saying that the death toll has risen to 12 because one of the victims who was injured succumbed to his or her injuries on the way to the hospital. they have not released identifying information on any of the victims yet. they say they're still identifying victims and notifying the families. in terms of the shooter, the shooter is dead. the police chief said pointedly that they know the identity of