and i can take it from here. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. >> hello, i'm craig melvin. >> i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." it's not a play, isn't it? >> are you sane?ot >> sane? that's relative. >> guilty, hmm.at i wouldn't do anything i felt guilty about. d >> you may think you know the charles manson story, but not like this. >> things that police had never seen before. >> sharon tate begged him, please don't kill me.ta >> he was trying to take advantage of peace and love,

flower power. >> even now, decades later the world is still fascinated by charles manson and his crimes. we take you inside his world of drugs. >> he would dose them with lsd. >> sex. >> he slept with all those girls. >> and rock 'n' roll. >> they really did listen to the "white" album over and over. >> with new interviews. >> he says, gary, this is your last chance. >> and new details. >> he would always frame his statements. this is what i believe and the girls all believed it. >> the murders. >> these people were brutally butchered. >> the mayhem. >> charlie was acting meaner towards the girls. >> the madman. >> maybe i should have killed, four, 500 people, then i would have felt better. >> he symbolizes the horror that can be possible in this world.

>> hello, welcome to "dateline." charles manson was a man of small stature and monstrous delusions. the onetime amateur musician believed he would be bigger than the beatles.e after that dream was crushed, h. was replaced with a nightmarish prophecy that put him on the throne of a post-armageddon world. this is the story of how a career criminal calling himself jesus convinced his young followers to slaughter innocent victims, delivering charles manson the fame he craved.ns here's keith morrison with "the summer of man tonsomanson." >> all the remains are ruins. the ramshackled barker ranch is long gone. only the fitful baking death

valley wind left now to stir the faded bits, the rusted junk.d the artifacts from another time when this was ground zero for one of the most infamous crimes in history. t the hideout of a living personification of evil. >> you got it stuck in your brain that i murdered somebody.i >> charles manson. one hot, dry weekend in los angeles, august, 1969, a pregnant movie star slaughtered, along with four others in her home, across town a couple butchered in theirs. >> these were brutal crime scenes. things that the police had never seen before. >> reporter: murder so bloody, so ugly, they rewrote history. they became a kind of bookmark as an era of optimism ended. >> the '60 came to a close, 1969, that was the curtain the final curtain. >> who could make sense of it?

>> are you sane?ld >> sane? s >> yes. >> that's relative. >> who even now? >> how do our kids end up doing this kind of incredibly violentu crime?of how did had happen? >> we'll do our best to answer that question. to get past the myths that have clouded the story of charles manson, and with the help of those who witnessed finally explain the chaos, the crimes, the horror. it's a story that begins at a small mill town on the banks ofo the ohio river, mcmechen, west virginia. where the manson had his beginning. >> manson had told his own life story -- that he was a child nobody wanted. his mother is a career criminal and prostitute.

>> but plan son lied. there is jeff gwynn author of "manson," the man whose research revealed the facts behind the myths. or >> manson was raised by a very loving family. his uncle and aunt and his grandmother.an these were folks that were very religious. which they of course wanted charlie to go to church, which he hated. o but he had an amazing knack to memorize scripture. >> he was fascinated particularly with the book of fa revelation, which he learned to quote at great length., but he did not learn to be goodg >> he constantly stole. he lied. he picked on people. he was fascinated with knives and nothing you would do to try to discipline him worked. >> finally, manson was sent to reform school.ly eventually prison. by 32, he had spent half his life locked up. >> he was immediately struck by the pimps.

from them, he learned how to control woman who were -- and h this is his quote -- bent but not broken. >> manson also became fascinated with a popular book by dale carnegie called. >> "how to win friends and influence people." >> this is so strange to hear that he read dale carnegie. >> not only read dale carnegie, absorbed it. >> that wasn't the only thing manson picked up in prison.rb another inmate gave him guitar p lessons. and one day in a prison workshop a radio was blaring the top 40 of 1964. >> he hears the song by the beatles, so he sets a goal for himself of becoming even better than the beatles and he starts writing songs and performing in prison shows.ng >> and so, by the time charlie manson was released in prison ob parole, his fantasy was very strong. hi

>> he would be signed to a contract, would become world famous, rich and have all the women and drugs he wanted., >> the fantasy and charles manson, himself, would almost certainly remain anonymous, a complete unknown had it not been for this. [ music playing ] >> san francisco's haight ashbury district. at that moment, busloads of kids were arriving to what they thought would be a new world of peace and love. >> there would be hundreds of people sitting on the sidewalk and they'd go, grass, acid, speed. s >> roger smith was manson's parole officer in san francisco. >> and into that scene walked charlie manson? >> he did. he could somehow identify the ones who could be tricked, coerced, drawn in. >> bent, but not broken. troubled young women like susan atkins.

she left home as a teenager and drifted, washed up in the haight.as she worked as a topless dancer, quit and then fell under manson's spell. he nicknamed her sadie. later, leslie van houghten and met him. he left home, had an abortion, and then met him. elaine aridias met manson. >> he slept with those girls right away making a connection with them and they felt this man gets me.he >> he kept adding women to his entourage. he went with them everywhere. even to meet and flirt with his parole officer who heard firsthand manson's preaching to his flock an oddball mix of free love, and apocalyptic prophecies. m >> i found this silly. he would frame his statement, this is what i believe and the girls all believed it. >> reporter: the girls hung on

every word he spoke, seemed ready to do anything he asked. like when he told them to have sex with men he wanted to win over. when he told them he was destined to be bigger than the beatles -- >> manson fully intended to become a rock 'n' roll star and didn't think it was going to be very hard.oc >> the summer of love was over. manson loaded his family about a dozen on to a school bus to los angeles. he was a still a long-time criminal with a dream. but not for long. >> a most unlikely pair. a beach boy and charles manson. coming up -- >> dennis was convinced he could make charlie a star. >> and manson's strange hold on his family. --wa >> he dances, he sings, he looks beautiful and he looks happy and he draws a lot of people. >> when "dateline" continues. feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin

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♪ los angeles, 1968. the center of the rock 'n' roll universe. here was capital records, the beatles record company. the unsettled strip, and here the producers who could make charles manson a star. he positioned his family out here in the wood haven of alternative living could topanga canyon. >> he lived in topanga canyon, it was a burned out house. >> eric carlson was living nearby. in his first tv

interview how he got to know manson and his very available young women. >> they would come over to take showers and stuff. >> and stuff, as he said. >> sade was called sexy sade and not without cause. >> it wasn't exactly eric's shower or house to mind you. the main occupant of the house in which eric was livings with a soft-suspecten music -- soft-spoken music guy named gary hinman. >> he never charged me rent whatsoever. >> when some of the women were busted for a spree of minor crimes irish -- minor crimes -- >> charlie came over and asked gary if he could help him. he said, what itself the bail in. >> gary hinman, as he generously

paid the bail had no idea how manson would return his favor. manson and the family moved to a defunct movie location spahn's ranch, manson told another follower, nanette fromme, nicknamed squeaky, to keep the octogenarian over and he got to live there for free. ♪ and manson -- >> he dances, he sings. he looks beautiful. he looks happy. and he draws a lot of people just like people are drawn to little babies. >> they scrounge for food in dumpsters said a former family member, barbara hoyt. >> it was fun. ha, ha, ha ha. stores used to throw away good stuff, good vegetables. you'd find all kind of good treasures out there. >> but the family didn't just live on scavenged vegetables. they stole cash and credit cards and cars. manson taught them a skill

called creepy crawling, entering houses without waking the sleeping people inside and he used his women to advance his dream of becoming famous. >> he sends them out into the parts of los angeles that are known as areas where the rock stars live to find some of them, do what it takes and get them to take charlie on as sort of their project that they will introduce him to the right people. ♪ >> ridiculous? of course. but then, the most extraordinary thing -- it worked. >> dennis picked up a couple of girls on sunset. they were hitchhiking. >> dennis was dennis wilson of the beach boyce. at the time america's answer to the beatles. ray jacobson was a music producer and friend of dennis wilson's. >> they went to dennis' house, had a good time, played music, all the things they would do.

>> manson's system worked like a charm, offering his young women as sexual favors to get what he wanted. before the day was out. he and most of the family had moved right into the dennis wilson's house. >> dennis used to call me up, come on down, man, we're partying, all these girls are here, you have to meet charlie the wizard. denies -- dennis was convinced he could make charlie a star. >> so improbable as it seems, dennis took manson to his brother brian's studio, that's brian wilson, to record some of his songs. here's manson sing during that session. ♪ restless as the wind ♪ this town is killing me >> but when the other beach boys heard that, they didn't have a hue opinion of the music or

charlie. the session fizzled. but the beachboys did play one of manson's songs on the mike douglas tv show. but dennis rewrote the words and the title. >> oh, charlie was so angry that anybody would dare to change the lyric or anything he said. it was like misquoting him. >> so the beach boys were not the answer to manson's dreams. but there was one more chance. greg jacobson knew a man in los angeles who could snap his fingers and get him a contract. his name was terry melcher. one of l.a.'s top music producers. in the late spring of '69, melcher agreed to come to spahn ranch to hear him sing. >> charlie expected somebody to come out with a pen and say now here you have a contract with colombia records. >> but there was to be no contract. because later, terry melcher politely but firmly rejected charlie manson. >> charlie was really crushed. >> he would not be a rock 'n

roll star. he would not be rich and famous. he was a failure, which to manson, said his parole officer. >> charlie was in serious danger of losing the family. he did something that politicians are masterful at. that is he creates this horrible thing out there. there's going to be a race war. >> it was a time of racial strife in america. especially in l.a., and manson blended that information somehow with the book of revelation. he prophesieded and called it helter skelter after one of the songs on the beatles "white" album. his followers believed it. but did he? roger smith isn't so sure. >> i think it was basically used to keep them focused and maybe even divert attention from the fact that he was not doing well,

in terms of realizing his dream. >> time to move, he told his family, gather money, cars. get to the desert to wait out the war between the races. where again, the manson story might have disappeared from history, without a ripple or a trace. except -- >> coming up -- a day in the life of the manson family. >> every day, he would gather everyone together and dose them with lsd. >> and the killing begins. when "dateline" continues. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard.

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charlie manson had come to los angeles with a plan, to be bigger than the beatles. by the summer of '69, he knew that wasn't going to hasn't. that when manson told his followers they had to ignite something he called helter skelter, an imminent destroying race war, which he named for reasons only he knew after a song on the beatle's white album. >> they were going to go in the desert, stay there for 150 years while the black man takes over him then they will need him later. that's when he will come out as the master race and be the leader of everyone. >> this sounds ridiculous, of course in. >> it is ridiculous.

but combination of drugs, being isolated, he had them all convinced that this was real. >> he was serious about this in. >> yeah. he believed it. >> or so he persuaded his followers. he told them he needed complete loyalty and complete control. >> every day, he would gather everyone together and dose them with lsd and he would talk for a while. >> that's when, for his bent but not broken flock, manson portrayed himself as the new jesus, but not a sweet and kindly version of jesus. >> charlie was acting meaner towards the girls. >> and if they failed no follow his directions -- >> he'd hit you in the head with a stick. >> he went from good charlie to bad charlie? >> yeah. he really got mean. >> desperate to find the money and cars to take his family to death valley where he told them they'd wait

out helter skelter. and who had money and cars? his music teacher friend. gary hinman. >> he's telling him it's time to join the family because this whole helter skelter was coming and that he needed to cash out all of his investments and go with the family and go out to the desert. >> gary told manson no. but the man who became used to getting what he wanted persisted. >> he said, gary, if you do not do this, i will not be responsible for the karma you will invoke upon yourself. >> karma, manson style. then he sent a friend of the family bobby bosolay and susan atkins and mary bruner to shake down gary. >> beausoliel shakes him down. didn't get any money.

>> eventually beausoleil calls manson. >> manson comes down. he's wearing a sword and waving it around. >> charlie actually slices part of hinman's ear off, departs again. >> manson's followers tortured gary hinman for three days until he finally signed over the pink slips for his cars. then he threatened to call police. >> beausoleil calls manson, what are we going to do? manson says, you know what you have to do. >> beausoleil stabbed gary hinman and then mary brunner and susan atkins finished him with a pillow over his face. gary died because he didn't want to give up his money and the cars? >> yes, but it was equally important he become a part of. >> or kill you. >> the revolution is coming, a lot of people are going to die. >> manson had a term for these people, piggies, another part of

the "white" album. >> if you want to be a piggy, today's pork is tomorrow's bacon. >> on the wall of the house they wrote the verse "political piggy" and left a paw print all in the victims' blood, hopefully to lead police to think it was black panther. >> police think it's a murder, >> they downtown tlink to link -- don't link it to a black revolutionary execution. >> manson's misdirection failed. in less than a week, bobby beausoleil was pulled over driving one of gary hinman's cars, where police found a bloody knife. beausoleil called manson from jail saying he hadn't ratted on him yet. just when they believe manson decided on a plan to spring him and save his own skin. >> family members at spahn ranch are talking about bobby. he's if prison, what's going to

happen in how can we break him out? >> they hatched a plan so horrible that the man charlie manson would be famous, all right. not as a star, but as a symbol of evil. >> coming up -- helter skelter, a night of madness and murder. >> sharon tate quite naturally is screaming. she's begging not for her life but for her baby's. >> susan atkins says, bitch, i have no sympathy for you. >> when "dateline" continues. i had a heart problem.

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i'm dara brown with the top stories. police are investigating the shooter who killed 12 in virginia friday. the longtime engineer opened fire at a virginia beach municipal building before die flooding a gun battle -- dying in a gun battle with police. the guns used were purchased

legalli. and emmett flood will step down from president trump's legal team this month. he oversaw the response to the mueller investigation. now back to "dateline." august 6th, 1969, bobby beausoleil was if jail accused of murdering gary hinman. charlie manson was afraid bobby might talk, implicate him in the family. but then an idea. a crazy, horrible idea. >> they're watching some old james cagny movie where he's in jail for these murders and they do these copycat murders to prove he's not the one. >> and that's when charlie manson decided to commit murder so similar to what they did to hinman that the cops would have to think the real killers were on the loose, if they thought that, they'd release bobby beausoleil, but the key to these killings, manson decided, was to

find a high-profile victim. >> if it's somebody famous and the newspapers and the tv are making a big deal out of it, then it will work. they'll have to let bobby out. >> free bobby and maybe touch off helter skelter in the bargain by framing the black panthers. on this date, 1969, late, susan atkins, sexy sade dressed in black. >> susan, sexy sade, dressed in black and -- >> she yelled out the car window we're going to kill some [ bleep ]. >> the target, whoever lived in the house recently vacated by terry melcher who months earlier had blown off manson's hope force a record deal. >> whoever is living there now could be rich and famous. nobody else could afford a house like that. >> manson had actually been at the house earlier that year

looking for terry melcher. he moved out. but manson encountered the present sharon tate, the pregnant wife of roman polanski. they cut wires to the house. they went over the gates, and just then a young man named steven parent who was the property caretaker was leaded out of the driveway. tex confronted him with a five, then shot him several times the killing had begun. with one standing guard the others went inside the house, polanski was out of the country that night, but his friend was asleep on the couch. tex kicked him. susan atkins went to see who else was there. >> she starts down the hallway. there is a guest bedroom. there is a woman sitting up in bed. it's abigail folger. >> heiress to the folger coffee

fortune. >> she thought she was a friend of sharon and waves to her. susan atkins gives the finger wave back and continues down the hall. >> in the bedroom she found sharon tate and tate's former boyfriend, she herded them in the room. >> this is jay sebring's nephew. >> at a certain point watson turned his back and he charged and he shot him and watson started stabbing and kicking. >> sharon tate quite naturally is screaming. krokowski and folger break out a side door. they're running across the lane. krenwinkel and watson chase after them. >> soon, everyone was left for dead, except sharon state. >> she's begging, not for her

life but for her baby's, susan at kitsap says, "bitch, i have no sympathy for you," and she's slaughtered. >> then susan atkins wrote the word pig in blood on the front door to make sure cops would connect these murders to gary hinman's murder. >> they arrive back at the ranch, charlie manson is waiting for them, what did you do? tell me about it. and they tell him. and he's furious. from their description, he doesn't think they've left the house appalling enough that it will get the attention they want. >> so, said gwynn, manson, himself, returned to the house, and draped in an american flag near sharon tate's bid to. -- body. >> manson with a sense of theater thought that would be the thing that would really, really make everybody gasp and pay

attention. >> a movie actress and four of her friends were murdered and the circumstances were lurid. >> the family was mutilated. >> this, i'd rather fought discussion. >> nobody related this to hinman. beausoleil remained in jail. >> charlie was furious. they had screwed up. >> he blamed them? >> very much so. if they had done it right. >> they had to do it again. >> this time i'm going with you to make sure it gets done properly. >> he took his band of killers on a tour of los angeles, looking for just the right innocent victims. there was a street manson knew, he had been to a party there in l.a. he picked the house next door. no idea who lived there. it was the home of leno and rosemary labianca. >> charlie says he'll go in,

check it out. charlie comes back out, gets tex watson. they go if, first they catch lena labianca. he ties him up, asks is anybody else here? my wife is in the bedroom. >> then he gets the others who had begged to go with him this time. >> charlie tells them, go in there. do what you need to do. he drives off in the car. >> the labiancas died as brutally as those the night before. found blindfolded and gagged. the crime scene created to horrify. >> with blood the killers had controlled, death to pigs. >> helter skelter, misspelled had been written in blood on the refrigerator and carved into lena labianca's torso, there was one word, war. surely, no one could miss that message.

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there were many funerals that week in the summer of '69, too many. one for the beautiful sharon tate. >> many of hollywood's elite turned out for the funeral despite the fact it was billed as a private family affair. >> families watched the shocking news on tv, including the manson family. and follower barbara hoyt. >> i remember being scared by that. >> how did they react to the news in. >> they laughed. it didn't bother them at all. >> charlie manson thought they had hoodwinked people before that they to the the people that killed the ones before and would free bobby beausoleil. even though there was talk to the murders might be connected to each other -- >> police today could but speculate whether these two crimes had been done by the same person. >> no one connected them to the hinman case.

the plan failed. bobby beausoleil stayed in jail and if that wasn't frustrated enough for manson, just six days after the labianca murders, more than 100 deputies descended on the family. >> they decide they're going to have a huge raid on spahn ranch. they're going to arrest everybody in it. >> but, the raid turned out to be good news for charlie manson. because it didn't have anything to do with murder. the warrant was for auto theft. totally unrelated. and even that charge dwn stick? manson uses this as a great example. see how powerful he is? they arrested all of us, but i used my power and they're letting us go. >> the "l.a. times" ran a small story about the car theft raid, along with an article about the tate murders and labianca murders. manson was on edge after he

found a ranch hand was trying to get the family kicked out of spahn ranch. barbara hoyt remembers what happened next especially heard a scream. i bolted up. >> is there anything to describe what that sounded like? >> pure horror. >> you knew who it was? >> i knew it was shorty. i recognized the voice. >> this was the one that manson was involved in. she was sort of hacked to pieces. >> manson decide it was time to get out of l.a. maybe he was feeling the heat or wanted a more remote place to keep his family under his control. >> to him, the whole idea of control is not just having people worshipping you, but having people follow your orders in ways that contradict common sense. >> that is, fleeing an

apocalyptic race war, helter skelter. he moved them out to an old homestead called barker ranch. over 200 miles from los angeles, now a part of death valley national park. yes, death valley. >> during this war, he will lead his family into death valley where there is a bottomless pit in a city underneath the surface. they will go down there and be safe. >> he seriously thought there was something beneath the earth where all of you go and hide. >> mm-hmm in. >> and escape the race war? >> uh-huh. rivers of honey and trees with fruit. >> she said she overheard susan atkins gleefully describing the murder of sharon tate and suddenly feared for her own life. >> i knew i had to get out of there.

>> so early one morning, barbara and a friend took a huge risk. >> and we walked out. >> you walked out? >> yes, we walked out. >> into the heat of death valley. they walked for miles to the nearest ranch, said barbara, she eventually reunited with her real family. but the rest of the manson family stayed busy in the desert. >> the family is up to its old tricks. there's cars stolen, different desecration of national monument areas. >> all of which, once again, drew the notice of law enforcement. during two raids in october, they rounded up most of the family, the last to be captured was manson, himself, hiding under the bathroom sink. he told authorities he was manson, aka gentleman success christ, god. the charges were auto theft and arson. they'd faced similar charges before, had beaten the rap before.

this time, something unexpected, completely out of manson's control. somebody in the family squealed about susan atkins and her role in gary hinman's murder so atkins was moved from a jail near death valley to los angeles. >> she couldn't stay quiet. she started sharing this incredible and unbelievable story. >> atkins boasted to a fellow inmate, virginia graham, about the sharon tate murders. >> she said, you know who did it, don't you? and i looked at her and said, no, i don't. she said, her word were, well, you are looking at her. >> atkins told virginia graham every hideous detail, mocking one of her victims. he was screaming, help, help, somebody help me and she said, nobody came and we killed him. virginia told the cops. >> police got the break in the tate case when susan atkins

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>> i don't have any guilt. i know what i've done. >> banter from the man about to be tried for the most historic capitol hilling sprees in america. >> i think mr. manson fooefz he's a product of our society. >> the case went to the young prosecutor at the time. >> i used to have conversations all the time. charlie, i'm going to convict you, but after you have a fair trial. >> he tried to get family members to flip against manson. most stayed loyal. those not charged staged demonstrations outside the courthouse. even shaved their heads in solidarity. >> you know, we'd die, we'd do anything for a brother. >> chatty susan atkins was supposed to be a key witness. she bragged about the killing in

a jail and then testified before the grand jury. >> describe to me how you feel. >> dead. >> so atkins recanted. so he turned to graham. graham told the jury who atkins gidley described the murders. >> there wasn't a sign of remorse. it was almost boastful. >> atkins said they were just getting started. they had a plan to murder at a-list celebrities. >> it was marilyn monroe, steef mcqueen, frank sinatra. they were going to skin him and tell them on hollywood boulevard. >> the information made headlines.

>> the jury hearing the clarnlgz against charles manson and three girl members of his so-called family brought in its verdict this afternoon. >> manson and several were sentenced to death, a career-making case for the prosecutor, who was ecstatic. >> given the incredible nightmarish murders, the death penalty was the proper penalty in this case. >> then year over a year later it all changed. >> the california supreme court ruled the death penalty is unconstitutional. >> there would be no quas chamber for manson or any of his family members. >> do you believe that there should be a death penalty? >> aren't we all born to die? we're born a death penalty. >> in a gas chamber? >> i believe what i'm told to

believe. don't you? >> because of that california state supreme court ruling, the sentences were lessoned to death penalty, life for parole, even for manson. >> there are so many reasons why i'm against parole. >> anthony are de maria has spent most of his assault life fighting parole for his uncle's killer. >> i've changed. i've rehabilitated. you might have bust your victims are dusty and rotting in a grave. >> over the years they each had aparole laergz but each team they were denied. leslie van houten had a chance for a parole hearing.

>> it's hard to listen with that murder. >> houghton earned two to three years behind bars, runs a self-help group for women. >> i accept responsibility. i know what i did is inexcusable. >> in 2016 van houten was recommended for parole, but it was retoed by the governor. sharon tate's sister debora strongly opposes her belief. >> i don't think she deserves it. these peerp were brutally murdered. there has to be some kind of accountability in this world. there just has to be. >> is it doesn't matter when the person is 65? >> no. >> after nearly 50 years in prison, charles manson had become a shell of his former self. one of his friends us he

believed manson was suffering from early dementia. shortly after his birthday in 2017, charles manson died of natural causes. up until his last day of earth, never a hint of remorse. >> i've never done anything i was ashamed of. guilty? i wouldn't do anything i felt guilty about. >> manson and his family seem to occupy a dark corner of our imagination. jeff quinn said, it's time to strip back the memory and stop brannishing what they did. >> if he's notiorious. let him be notorious for this horrible thing. a sociopath. >> he used his lime as an

enduring lesson is how not to be a human being. that's all for this edition of "dateline" pp thanks for watching. good morning. i'm phillip mena in new york. it's 6:00 in the east. 3:00 out west. here's what's happening. victims identified, a community shattered after the tragedy in virginia beach. this is my home. you touched my heart. when you touched the people of our city. this should not happen in virginia beach, it shouldn't happen any any city in the united states of america. sadly it does. >> the stories of the victims and the questions investigators are trying to answer. >>