that wraps up this hour. now, it's time with "weekends with alex whit." >> you should go see "saving private ryan" if you have not. >> it's been a while. >> good morning to all of you. it's 7:00 here in the east, 4:00 a.m., out west. welcome to "weekends with alex

witt." 12 victims, 1 investigation, many questions. this morning, virginia beach mourns and looks for answers. >> lives were snuffed out prematurely. senseless, from a senseless act of violence. >> as much as virginia beach is a city, it has a small-time heart. >> the new information from investigators ahead. we want the truth for the american people. what is the president covering up? >> new calls for truth, without use the "i" word. and the president's new comments about meghan markle. we begin with the latest on the tragedy in virginia beach, that took the lives of 12 people. city officials will provide an update on the investigation into friday's shooting.

that community rattled by the act of gun violence, holding another vigil last night. the shooting has become the deadliest this year. there's a note on the front door of their house. police responders are being hailed as heroes. >> in a situation such as this, these officers need time to decompress before we ask them specific questions about this horrific crime secene and the firefight shoot-out they had with the suspect. >> let me commend the officers, the people that ran into a building, where the active shooter, shooting .45 caliber bullets saved many people. without question or reservation, virginia beach is a city of

heroes. >> ron allen is joining us from virginia beach. when you think of what the mayor just said about the people that are first responders. this is a city that is grieving big-time. that's the latest from there? >> the first responders are heroic. they saved many lives. there were hundreds of people in the complex behind me. it's a huge complex. and the people who were killed, the public employs. they were behind-the-scenes people. they wore clerks. the contractor that was killed was coming to talk about a permit for something that was going on. the sort of things that keep a place running.

that's people are well-known. there's several thousand people in the city. and there's people in the community who came here for some sort of city business, who probably encountered these people along the way. a lot of reflection about the first responders. the police have not wanted to disclose details, like how long the firefight took. here's a bit of sound from a survivor. here's a sense of what was going on. >> i heard the gunshot. and people yelling, it's an active shooter. close the door. we can't let this happen again

and again and again. several co-workers came in yesterday morning. they were laughing. at the end of the day, they couldn't get home. that's the saddest day in my life. the people who died at 150 years of service to this community. there's going to be a huge memorial service. a lot of remembrances and church services as people look to their faith to guide them and help them through this difficult time. we're hoping to hear more from the police about why duane craddikra ewayne craddock, why

this. i think the focus of this now for this town is to support the grieving families. >> and the pain and sadness that man you interviewed, that was hard to hear. thank you very much, ron allen. the flags at public buildings are flying at half-staff, this following the presidential proclamation. that order remains in effect. it re-ignites the debate for what it will take for congress to pass any gun control legislation. cory booker is urging his colleagues to rise above politics. >> it is time for us as a nation, not to normalize the violence of gun violence. it is time that we come together and stand together and take a fight to the nra and the

corporate gun lobby. like we have never seen before. we can lead that fight and win. >> richard blumenthal said his state has proved that some policies can reduce gun violence. >> we can make progress. a ban on high-capacity magazines. an emergency risk disorder statue. a national federal approach is necessary. but congress has been complicit by its inaction. also developing, democrats divided on starting an impeachment inquiry. the cries of impeach grew loud. but nancy pelosi did not utter

the "i" word even once. >> i told you, president trump will be held accountable in the congress, in the courts. in the court of public opinion. we will provide our democracy. >> one of the first members of congress to introduce articles of impeachment reacted in real-time to pelosi's message. >> people make history history make people. people who were reluctant, who are starting to realize they must do their constitutionally required duty. and that is move forward with impeachment. >> meanwhile, mexico says, on wednesday, its top negotiators will try to puersuade the trump

administration from putting tariffs on all goods. mexican officials want to make the case, they have been deporting thousands from central america. hey, guys. good morning to you both. dave, you first, the read you were taking on the president's move, without support from his party or closest advisers, imposing the tariffs on mexico. what is the conventional wisdom on what happens next? he's given himself until june 10th. a week from tomorrow. >> there's no conventional wisdom, alex. donald trump is going off in his own direction on this. he's not consulting with his own colleagues. he's taken the tact on mexico and china. this is a power play.

we can expect that from donald trump on trade issues. that's the way he's operated since he became president of the united states. mexico, top officials here on wednesday, to try to negotiate this. mexico is going to try to work with the united states. there's no indication of trying to suggest that donald trump is going to pull back and this is a big bluff. it's possible he would go forward if he doesn't get what he wants. >> he will be out of the country when the negotiations go. is there a chance that the administration tries to pivot? >> it's no surprise that president trump likes to pivot when there's news in the mueller investigation.

mueller's testimony was not good news for the president. i would say, in terms of the timing of these tariffs and the mueller investigation, i wouldn't say the president is that worried about it. i think the white house is watching this. they're seeing increased calls for impeachment. but there's a question of whether he wants to be impeached or not. once it hits the senate, it will be a dead end. that could be a political win for the president. i wouldn't necessarily say this could be a clear-cut distraction. however, i would say there's so many other things going on right now, such as this state visit to the u.k., that could be a distraction, as well. >> on this topic of impeachment, we heard nancy pelosi calling for unity. she was cried down. the speaker is not budging at all. do you think she risks at all waiting too long to get there?

>> there's the potential for that. and there's calls of many quarters for the democratic party to move forward, and impeach. despite what julia just said. >> is that part of why nancy pelosi is taking her stance? >> there's a political risk. absolu absolutely, that would play out if that was to be the case. she is making the case and has made the case, that the ultimate way to impeach donald trump, is to run a strong candidate against donald trump, and to beat him at the ballot box. the impeachment process, would get you into next year. that's not quelling one bit, alex, the calls from many -- the left side of the democratic party. the tom sayers, who created a

campaign, and invested tens of millions of dollars to get democrats to impeach donald trump. nancy pelosi is standing in the way of impeachment happening. if she wanted it to happen, we would be under way right now. >> you can't lose sight that you have a republican onboard with the 50 democrats that support impeachment. what are you hearing on this front overall? are we going to see that number go up? the dynamic, with what it's like. are they losing patience with the speaker's resistance? they understand the politics of all this. are they losing patience with just beginning an inquiry? >> it's possible that number will go up. a lot of democrats are hearing frustration with them, their own progressive basis, there needs

to be more calls for impeachment inquiry. if you're talking about democrats up for re-election in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, they will probably be less inclined for impeachment. we hear -- the al greens, the alexandria ocasio-cortezes. there's many democrats that aren't talking as much because they're concerned about their own political risk. and i think nancy pelosi is trying to take that into consideration, as well. president trump isn't the only candidate up for re-election in 2020. there's numerous districts that democrats feel like they need to win. they aren't cakewalks for them. that's another factor that pelosi is taking into account

here. >> we have to talk about gun control, given the tragedy that hit the nation on friday in virginia beach. we ask this question every time. can you conceive a scenario, in which there is bipartisan support. that would include from the president of the united states on gun control legislation. >> in this circumstance, with congress the way it is, no. what will it take? students being slaughtered. members of congress, republicans and democrats. what is it going to take? and the answer is, almost nothing will change the way that congress reacts to a situation like this. republicans do not want to go forward with comprehensive gun

control, that will be a massive departure from what we have today. >> what is the prospect of states listening to their citizens. you see polls after the elections in the midterms. they said, we support some sort of nationwide gun control. at least from the state's perspective, what about movement there. >> that's a good point, and you will see in 2020, a big push from democrats, and progressive-leaning groups to use this issue, to maybe gain majorities or gain positions in statehouses. we know that republicans have been, in previous years, have been very good at taking control of statehouses. they had a prominent presence in them. in 2018, we had the dynamic shift. there is a hope for the more progressive vision on gun control. to harkin back to your earlier

point, i agree with dave. the way congress is set up right now, it's hard to see any progress being moved on the national level or the federal level on this issue, just because i think the gun lobby is prevalent. you are hearing a bit of talk about how the national rifle association, they're in dire straits right now. at the same time, i don't think the situation for them is that bad for them to be losing influence with some of the republican members of congress. there's some beholden to this organization. >> we'll see how the candidates put this forward. i should point out that eric swalwell, he has made this the centerpiece of his platform, as he runs for the presidency. good to see you guys. thank you so much. great expectations. what lies ahead when the president crosses the pond later today. ater today.

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missouri is one of nine states that could challenge roe v. wade in the supreme court. and joining us now, katie phang and ashley merchant. good saturday morning to you both. this judge in st. louis, missouri, granted a temporary restraining order to planned parenthood. the judge made clear he's taking no sides here and thought this case warranted something of a further hearing. what do you think happens in court on tuesday? >> you're right, alex. the judge has not picked a side. planned parenthood won this skirmish. on tuesday morning at 9:00 a.m., the judge will conduct an evidentiary hearing to determine if a preliminary injunction, or

the entry of an order that would allow the clinic to remain open, if that should be entered on tuesday. that is literally planned parenthood meeting legal standarsta standasta standards to keep its door open. planned parenthood would be able to provide. you want to make sure the purpose behind closing the doors of this clinic is not pretextual. according to the missouri department of health, there were statements that allowed questions of doctors providing abortion services. and planned parenthood said, we have full-time doctors. question them. but there are doctors that are not employees of planned parenthood. we cannot make them answer questions. that's where they can't come to an agreement. that's why there's a risk that people want to obtain an abortion service in missouri.

if the doors close, they have to go to illinois or kansas. half of the abortions performed in kansas, were missouri residents. >> this does not include exceptions for rape or incest. however, it does allow for medical emergencies. >> i think this law will be struck down. we have heartbeat laws. one in georgia. a lot of them in the south. we have one in the midwest. we have states being able to enact a law that violates the constitution. roe versus wade said that women have a constitutional right to seek these abortions. the states have enacted laws that violate the constitution. they know that. they knew that when they enacted them. we had a similar situation, with

school desegregation. they did not want to desegregate schools. brown versus the board of education. the supreme court said you have to do that. they had to send in armed guards to force the states to comply with the law. we're going to see where the states are going to have to be forced to comply with the federal law, which allows women to have abortions. >> is that something you see happening? there's georgia and alabama. they have to go to the 11th circuit court in georgia. is that where they will be forced to comply? >> i do. they have to go to the district court level and will be forced to comply with federal law. they know they violate the current state of the law. they are hoping they can get up to the supreme court and get it overturned. i don't think it will happen in these cases. >> what happens if this gets to the supreme court?

>> i think that people that are pro-life proponents are hoping that somebody like brett kavanaugh, who was very squirrely, in terms of how he answered the questions, if you would recall during his confirmation hearing. we want justices that will sit on the highest court of the land and are going to respect precedent. if a case when certain facts ends up on the supreme court in terms of being considered by its nine justices, that's where new law is created. that's where you get new law that ends up being controlling over the entirety of the court system. if there is a case and a test case that can make it to the supreme court, there's people that are wary that the more conservative leaning supreme court may overturn roe v. wade. >> buckle up if that happens. thank you so much. the many reasons some democrats are not pursuing

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forecasters are warning people in the midwest to prepare for rising waters. among the hardest-hit areas is arkansas, where a levee gave out and forced the evacuation of many of the residents there. the oregon river is expected to crest on tuesday. >> i want to apologize for putting anybody in harm's way. >> a week after her dramatic rescue, a recovering amanda eller said she was irresponsible. the hiker was lost for 17 days in a hawaiian forest. she went for what she hoped would be a short walk but went without water, food or a cell phone. the president heads overseas. he has a packed schedule. on monday, he will be welcomed by queen elizabeth and prince charles and wife, camilla.

the president will also attend commemoration ceremonies for the 75th anniversary of d-day. the shooting in virginia beach is focusing the political conversation on whether the needle will move at all of congress passing legislation. joining me now, debbie dingell, the co-chair of the house policy and communications committee. i know gun control is an issue for you. any kind of gun rceform, even incremental steps will be national federal law, even soon? >> you have to be an optimist. if you don't have a vision and you're not going to get there, you're never going to get there. i don't know what it's going to take. we can't get a simple law that can close loopholes on people who have been convicted of stalking and we know the guns in those instances are really a

problem. this was the 150th mass shooting this year. we've got to do something. and there's got to be a way -- you know, i was listening to some of the previous guests on the show. and i do remember, when we had a ban for ten years, on assault weapons. and magazines -- and the sizes of magazines, which was an issue here. we have to be careful not to talk about things we don't know about, with the law enforcement is rightly so, keeping things close to their vest. we've got to do something. we're going to come back to washington. and they're going to say, but nothing works. some things do work. >> we heard senator richard blumenthal of connecticut in the forecast. and he was talking about the ways that levels of gun control have been effective. you say we have to go back to washington, and is that not the place? there's a state-wide push.

and washington intervenes. you have california that passed gun control legislation. you have a judge in san diego who struck it down, for a reason that was logical for him. but it didn't look like the big picture. if the federal government is not going to do anything about gun violence and reducing it, can the states get it done? >> states have democratic legislators that might be able to do something. indiana, which is a red state, vice president pence comes from there, passed a red flag there. i was -- susan brooks a s aes ah and upton introduced before we left, to give law enforcement a school, to take a gun away from someone that is a threat to the community or himself. there's a number of things. i think we should be looking at reducing the magazine size. it was there for a decade.

i'm not going to tell you that the chances for that are high. i got booed on the house floor -- it wasn't a planned statement. i said, don't let the bully you and the republicans attacked me. >> you bring up the nra. has its influence, given its own internal issues right now -- has its influence at all been reduced in congress? the house did pass your bill, expanding background checks. you got a lot of pushback from the nra on it. >> i did. and the senate, it's been more than 45 days. and the senate hasn't taken up the bill. look. my husband was an nra board member. although, he, at the end, said to me, it's not the same nra that he was a proud board member of in the '60s. i think there's two different issues here.

i really -- after this interview, i'm going to get hate notes on my facebook. i can tell you that right now. there's really people that are afraid that we're trying to take away the second amendment rights. we're not trying to take away people's second amendment rights. >> you say that over and over again. you and other members of congress -- they're not trying to take away your second amendment rights. >> only a few of us are really willing to go out there and be out there. there's people that say it and a couple of people -- i'm trying to use common sense. and i'll tell you, there are -- you know, when john dingell was a key member, people won't remember this, in the '90s. he resigned from the nra board, over the bill that did ban assault weapons and magazine sizes, at that time. i didn't understand what a magazine was. i didn't understand what chuck schumer and john were talking about magazines. it did save lives.

it was documented. i don't know why we can't go back to having those conversations. but there's people at home that let you know how strongly they feel. i will tell you, i hear it at a grass roots level. and i am thinking that the republicans are hearing at a grassroots level. i don't think $2,500 can buy anybody's vote. but john dingell had to have protection after his vote in the '90s. i've had people hug me and thank me for being willing to take a stand. and they're nra members. >> you get people hugging you, thanking you. >> and i am going to get death threats. i do. >> that exposes this incredible divide on this issue. getting a question about impeachment.

you have expressed reservation on all this. i want to listen to what you told my colleague, chuck todd. >> there's a theme about how russia is trying to divide this country. i don't want to play into russia's hands and divide this country more with a partisan impeachment. so, i am totally schizophrenic right now about all of the different things that are in there. i think we have to do this in a bipartisan way. >> speaker nancy pelosi says one of her reasons is because the president will be common rate x the senate. that makes it more difficult to prosecute donald trump after he leaves office. should either your russia argument or her postpresidency argument take precedence over what some say are constitutional requirements. >> as you heard me say, i'm really struggling. i see this from all sides.

when you read this report -- i really wish mueller would come up and testify. i think people have a lot of questions. he told us to do our job and read this report. and i get mixed signals from reading this report. nobody talks about -- i do -- about the repeated pattern throughout the two halves of this, is that russia is trying to divide us as a country. they are trying to attack the fundamental principles of our democracy. our democracy is something that we have to cherish and protect. and i'm out there. i've got into a parade and drove up to two trump floats. i listen to people. i talk to people. the anger out there. we're one community. and we're being divided by fear and hatrehatred. my job is to protect this country and keep it from being co torn apart. it worries me.

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this interview? it was a tabloid, "the sun." >> right. it's unclear if he was talking about the comment she made in 2015. she said she would move to canada, if president trump was elected. whether the president was referring to that comment or the individual in general. now, of course, the former american actress, now, the duchess of sussex, and mother to a newborn child, archie. the first lady and the president depart for a three-day state visit. a lot of pomp and ceremony involved in a state visit there. no word on if he will get a warm welcome, a cool welcome or a hostile welcome. the mayor of london as reauthorized the large parody, that balloon, to fly over the

streets. it will be a kcircus atmosphere. great britain having a political crisis of their own. a race, now, to be the next leader of the tories. ultimately, the next prime minister. the president saying that boris johnson, a controversial and flamboyant politician over in great britain, would do a very good job. i think he would be excellent, he told an interview with "the sun." a lot of people, including the main opposition leader, have tried foul, saying that's putting a thumb on the scale. it's not up to the president of the united states to determine who is going to lead the british people. no short of controversy on the eve of this trip, alex. >> thank you so much. tariff threat. the new revelation about the

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unless the country slows down the flow of immigrants crossing the border. several republicans in congress slamming the president's threat. senator joni ernst saying this isn't the right path forward. chuck grassley says this is a misuse of presidential authority. let's bring in bishop garrison and republican strategist brian darling, founder and president of liberty government affairs. guys, you should know the president is already up and at 'em tweeting about this, pushing back on those opposing him. that said, what does it mean, bishop. for the president's plan that both democrats and republicans are pushing back on it? >> good morning. it means that he's taken advice from the wrong individuals, particularly his aides -- >> has he taken advice in any individuals? seriously on this, you have senior advisor jared kushner, the treasury secretary, the u.s. trade representative, they're saying don't do this. >> yes. and then you have apparently, according to reports, stephen

miller who is not an expert in trade or the economy that are telling him this is a good idea and it's horrific. it's going to be terrible for the american economy. it's going to be terrible for manufacturers. it's going to be terrible for american jobs. we're looking at a country whose exports to us are somewhere in the neighborhood of $350 billion and in turn we export to them about $260 billion. this is going to have long-term, long-standing ramifications if it goes ahead. >> brian, let's point out one thing. there is an election next year, and conventional wisdom is such that if the economy is really strong, that's very good for an incumbent or anybody trying to get elected, right? so why would the president be doing this? why would he be going against the advisors who have economic backgrounds who say don't go there because this could lead to an unstable economy? why is he doing this? >> i think one explanation is

that it's possible the president is just threatening these tariffs. i think it's possible he's just trying to hammer and bully the mexicans into doing more on immigration so he can take credit if they come to an agreement where mexico agrees to do more to stem the flow coming from mexico. so i have heartburn over tariffs. i understand the president using tariffs against china as a means to leverage more free trade. but one of the big problems with this is the whole idea of the u.s.-mexico-canada agreement is to get rid of tariffs. imposing tariffs probably wouldn't be great for the economy but hopefully this is just to leverage a better relationship with mexico. >> so you think by his bullying and the mexico president saying he is now considering, i guess, tightening up the immigration rules, although they pointed out mexico has turned back thousands of immigrants from central america on its borders for sure. but you think these meetings on

wednesday may prove to be fruitful and the president could pull back then and not institute 5% tariffs as of a week from monday? is that what you're saying? >> i would hope so. i mean if you look at the way that these tariffs go up every month by 5%, it seems very unrealistic. it seems like a tactic more so to get them to the table than to actually implement real tariffs. >> i would argue that unrealistic tariffs is not economic theory. that bullying is not economic theory. >> it's not diplomatic. >> we're talking about policies that are going to have ramifications not just for america and mexico, but we are now a global economy. we have been for decades. we're globally connected to other countries through our industries. these are going to have a big effect on everything from televisions and computers to agriculture and car manufacturing. >> guys, i want to get to this

issue. it's a big moment in washington this week when senator majority leader mitch mcconnell made big waves when he was asked if there's a supreme court vacancy next year, an election year. remember, he blocked president obama's nominee when he said it was an election year. >> if a supreme court justice dies next year, what would you do? >> we'd fill it. >> oh, brian, can you see how democrats think that's highly hypocritical. >> do i need a drinking of water too? i think maybe not -- well, it's hypocritical, but let's be honest. if you look at the constitution, the constitution says very clearly that the senator provides a role of advice and consent. when harry reid got rid of the filibuster on everything but supreme court nominees and senator majority leader mitch mcconnell completed that task by getting rid of the filibuster on

supreme court nominees, there goes all of your comedy on the issue, there goes your bipartisanship. there's no reason for republicans to ever listen to democrats while they control the senate. so they can steam roll democrats and make up any rule they want to and that's actually okay because it's part of the constitution. >> last quick word to you, pi h bishop, on this. merrick garland, merrick garland. it's hypocritical and disgusting to be quite frank. >> okay, thank you, guys. have a good one. ahead next hour, the chairman of the democratic national committee on topics ranging from those 2020 debates to the battle to protect the election from russia. to protecte election from russia

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